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hi my name is yammy and I'm from the

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crypto chat with yammy podcast on June

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8th of 2015 I had an encounter with what

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I believe to be an unidentified flying

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object from a far distance in our small

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town here of Saint Cloud Florida it was

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a normal day it was in the evening and

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me and my family were just relaxing in

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our living room when my dad pointed out

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that somebody had posted something

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strange on the county Facebook page

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somebody had asked if other people could

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see this pair of lights that were in the

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sky he posted a photo of them and soon I

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don't even know how many people began to

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post their own photos and videos of

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these Set of Lights it was three lights

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in a triangular formation they seemed to

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be just kind of hovering over the local

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golf course which actually from our home

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was probably five minutes away we

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didn't really know what to make if it

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were a very small town not really a lot

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happens but we just kind of followed

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along with the story and it seemed that

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they stayed in the area so at that point

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I reached out to a friend of mine who

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was working at our local church that the

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backyard of the church basically

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connects to that same golf course and I

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asked if he was still there could he pop

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outside and see what people were seeing

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and he did confirm that he saw the exact

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same thing at that point me and my mom

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decided let's just go outside and see if

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we can see it from our driveway so we

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did and as soon as we walked out we

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turned in the direction of the golf

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course there it was in the sky hovering

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three lights they were in a triangular

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sort of formation they weren't really

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moving there was no sound they kind of

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flickered like a yellow in an orange

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color sometimes a light would disappear

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but then it would come back and just

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absolute silence the night was so eerily

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silence I can still remember it to this

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day and we just kind of looked at each

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other like is this really happening

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right now are we really watching this

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and you know people on the Facebook page

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were throwing different explanations you

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know it's paper lanterns oh it's methane

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gas it's something to do with you know

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the I think it was the Avon Park Air

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Force Base somewhat nearby but we still

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kept watching these objects in the sky

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and it was just like a feeling of shock

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and somewhat excitement but I couldn't

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explain the slight feeling of dread that

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I felt watching these you know I'd seen

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stories about UFOs on TV and it had been

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something that had interested me in my

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life but I never thought I would

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actually personally see them and

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the lights after about five minutes

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vanished and we went back inside and we

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followed the story through the Facebook

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page and they were later seen in a town

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south of us before they disappeared to

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this day there's no explanation about

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what happened here in Saint Cloud June

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8th of 2015. many people saw it I

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actually have still some of the photos

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from that day

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um what do I think it was I'm not sure

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as someone who really believes in the

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Supernatural paranormal different things

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like that I'm very open to uh the

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possibility that it really was an

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unidentified flying object

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I just can't explain how something could

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move like that you know or not move and

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just make absolutely no noise it really

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stuns me to this day I don't think it

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was paper lanterns I've seen paper and

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lanterns I don't think it was an

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aircraft we live semi near an airport

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and we know what that sounds like so

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it's it's definitely to this day an

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unknown mystery and I still think about

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it from time to time because you never

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think it can happen to you until it

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happens to you

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hi my name's Peter

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um I'm I live in Arizona right now but

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uh I am going to be 64 in about a week

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I'm type 2 diabetic so don't know how

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long I'm gonna be around but I thought

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it'd be nice to be able to share what

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happened to me except many years ago

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the event took place sometime between

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1971 and 1973 unfortunately I didn't

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write down the date the month

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but I do know the exact time it occurred

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and the exact location

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the event took place in Las Vegas in a

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suburb Called Paradise Valley

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which was off the desert and Road and

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Pecos

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our house was about what maybe about two

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blocks and a half two and a half blocks

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down from Desert and Road and Pecos

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there and uh

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we we had a house there our backyard uh

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faces uh Sunrise Mountain

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my mother basically my mother came into

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my bedroom to wake me up

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and she said Peter Peter you got to come

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out and see this hurry up hurry and so I

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got up out of bed and I looked at the

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clock and the clock's at 3 20 A.M

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so anyhow I'm going through the backyard

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and lo and behold up in the air I say

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only about 300 feet up

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and they were like at the edge of our

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backyard like just over I'd say be it

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just be on the wall but 300 feet up

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it's not that far and

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um

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there were three of them there were

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three crafts

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and they were in a row there were three

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in a row

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each of them had two bright headlights

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on the front of them each one each one

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had two headlights on the front of them

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they weren't that big the crap but

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anyhow they hovered there and they hover

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very still they uh there were no

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propellers

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there was no no nothing no that showed

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any sign of any kind of propulsion

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anything to keep them up they they hover

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their like helicopters but no propellers

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no jet engines no nothing because they

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made absolutely no sound at all

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but no you gotta know they are there for

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about

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I'd say a full minute it had been a full

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minute

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and yeah and they are there they were

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still

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except the one on the left the far left

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wobbled a little bit

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he see it seemed to just just like I

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don't know what you know I just remember

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just wobbling a little bit I don't know

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whether it was just they were adjusting

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the controls or they're playing with the

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controls I don't know but anyhow and so

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they are there for a full minute

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and I don't know I I we have a camera

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but it has a flash one of those cheap

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cameras but

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my father who loves to take pictures and

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think to get the camera and me I didn't

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want to get the camera take a picture of

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them because it has a Flash and I was

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afraid how they would react if they saw

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the flash or they sort of Taken picture

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of them I don't know how they would

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react that was a feeling that I got I

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remember just I remember I I didn't we

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didn't feel I didn't feel threatened

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but

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yeah and they saw her there and and I

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got a strong sense that they were

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watching us you know and just no sound

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and the life they were very bright it

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was very difficult to make out the shape

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of the craft although the one on the far

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left that wobbled I was able to seize

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part of the craft but I wasn't able to

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make out the outline the exact shape but

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it was like it seemed to have been

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illuminated within the light itself

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there was lights coming from the front

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of it you know two headlights but the

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craft itself was also illuminated

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somehow so anyway after about the minute

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they just disappeared like Venice at a

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thin air there was no sign of

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acceleration nothing that that was

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definitely a no that was another sign to

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me at least that they were not

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um conventional aircraft

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because like I think it's just like that

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gun the lights went out their lights

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disappeared they disappear no sign on

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them whatsoever

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so my parents my parents both parents

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they after that they went inside

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and Ice decided to stay out there

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because I was kind of hoping that they

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would come back

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and well guess what about I don't know

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two minutes later that's all I was out

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there waiting a uh I think it was two

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minutes yeah around that

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this blimp like craft

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stuck with headed was heading towards

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coming from the East and I guess it was

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heading west

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and I thought it was a blimp for sure

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but the thing is it didn't have anything

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on the bottom like a cabin you know it

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didn't have any any fins on the back no

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propellers no nothing just up it looked

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like a blimp but with nut just you know

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but what it had also was unusual were

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these red lights

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around it around the circumference of it

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and one light would come on when it

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would go out the next one would come on

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then that would go off the next one

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would come on it gave the illusion of

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one single light going around the craft

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and it was going counterclockwise

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around the craft and it moves slowly

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above it was very it was not that far

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above the houses either as it traveled

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it was only I don't know maybe 50 feet

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above the homes and it was and it just

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went slow and you know just kept going

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very slow and then that and then that

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was it and

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I don't know and uh for years

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I just was like was this the Air Force

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was this some prank was this I mean what

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you know but after seeing Lou Elizondo

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and him talking about I think it was

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called the five observables when I think

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back there's no way this was

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conventional aircraft there's no way it

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was a secret crafts whatever I mean this

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happened back in 1970 and 1970s I've

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never seen anything like that before

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and this is

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there's just no way this was any kind of

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secret craft I I just doubt it I doubt

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it but I mean you can make up you know

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when I when I think of a little

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Alexander's by the deservables they

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definitely fit that what you know the

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criteria and I I just feel strongly that

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they were definitely UFOs

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well anyway yeah I never reported it

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we didn't want to because you know the

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people think we're crazy and I've been

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tempted to call the police department

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there in Vegas to see if there were any

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other people who would say it saw them

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because I can't believe no one saw them

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because this was in the suburbs at 3 20

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a.m and somebody had to have been awake

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other than us but I I don't know I'm

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tempted but I'm a little like how am I

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going to ask this you know they're gonna

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think I'm crazy but I just there was

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nothing in the newspaper that anyone saw

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them nothing on TV so I don't know

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hello my name is Sarah and I'm a field

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naturalist in Canada and my first and

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only UFO sighting so far occurred on

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Prince Edward Island which is a province

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in Canada in 2017. So at the time I was

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living in my van and exploring Eastern

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Canada and I was camping at national

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parks and stuff along the way because it

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was Canada's

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um 1 50th birthday or whatever so all

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the national parks were free

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so on this particular day in July I was

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driving at night through an agricultural

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area on this two-lane road and there was

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nobody else around so it was just my van

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and I was looking for a place to stay

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for the night and suddenly I saw this

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large

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cigar-shaped object fly about 50 feet

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overhead so if you can imagine a plane

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flying towards you

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um and it's just the wings so there's no

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Center column where a pilot or

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passengers would be that's the direction

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that this cigar was flying

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and I call it the cigar most of the time

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if I ever refer to it because

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I don't know why but saying UFO just

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seems like it's just hard for me I'm not

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sure why

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so uh the cigar it had these two lights

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near the ends of it and it was sort of

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the width of one and a half Cessna

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plain wingspan so it wasn't super large

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or super tiny but it was definitely you

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know noticeable flying overhead I should

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also mention too that my fan like

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doesn't have any insulation and I was

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listening to a podcast at the time so my

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van was pretty loud but there was no

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sound that notified me that this

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UFO was there and I only saw it when it

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was near to me and then as it passed me

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because of the lights that were on it

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and normally

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if a plane flies really close to you

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it's Extremely Loud like it's not you

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wouldn't not know that it was there if

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it was passing over you

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um but once I looked at my rear and side

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view mirrors to kind of confirm what I

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had just seen I couldn't see it anymore

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so

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it was night time

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and it's perfectly reasonable that you

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know I just couldn't see it for some

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reason but

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yeah from my perspective it just sort of

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disappeared and still to this day I have

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absolutely no idea why I didn't just

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pull over and stop and look but I

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remember distinctly pausing my podcast

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and saying to myself out loud like

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there's no way that's not what you think

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there's no way there's no way you know

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what the Boop that kind of thing I just

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could not process what I was seeing

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it did not make any sense to my brain

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and I was having trouble accepting that

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I had seen what I saw so the next day

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when I got somewhere where I could find

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some Wi-Fi I ended up searching this

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shape of aircraft or craft or UFO

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because at the time the only sort of

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shape that I was vaguely aware of were

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the classic saucers or you know

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drone-esque plain shapes so it felt

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super validating to see that I wasn't

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the first person to witness something

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like that or that looked like that

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uh and I also looked up if there were

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air fields nearby because that would

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make a lot of sense for why something

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was flying so low to the ground but

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there was just nothing around where I

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was it was only agricultural land and

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you know small towns so that was

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interesting I guess

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uh after I saw it I remember really

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wanting to tell someone but I thought

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that there was no way that I could say

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anything without someone thinking oh wow

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like she's really lost her mind and at

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the time for me it felt really important

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to be perceived as this intelligent

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rational professional person because I

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was just

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you know making my way into the

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corporate world at the time so saying I

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saw a UFO really felt like it would

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invalidate that

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and knowing myself now that's absurd and

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I definitely wouldn't feel any fear or

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shame sharing that I had seen something

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that I could not explain but at the time

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I was super tied to that ideology and

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because of that unfortunately I didn't

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write down a lot or share a lot of

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messages with friends about the

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experience because I mostly just kept it

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to myself or you know sometimes I would

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make a joke with someone and see how

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they responded to that and then likely I

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just wouldn't bring it up again so

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overall it was a really strange

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experience I didn't react how I would

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have thought I would have reacted at the

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time and

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still other than you know this that

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you're hearing right now I've never

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really talked about it and I'm not sure

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what I would say or what someone would

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say back to me but the experience was

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definitely one that got me a lot more

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interested in UFOs in Canada and the

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experiences of others so I guess

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ultimately whether or not there was an

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explanation for what I saw I'm still

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really grateful to have had it opened my

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mind to the possibility that there could

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be UFOs in a more concrete way in I

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guess my community or in my you know

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smaller world not the wider world

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yeah that's about it so thank you so

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much for listening to my story I really

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hi my name is um well I'm on Twitter us

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at the abducted cow and uh this is my

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one of my my first ever UFO experience

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the one I had as a child and uh it was

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back in the late mid to late 70s and the

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horrors just I was age nine or ten so I

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have trouble and dated it accurately

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um because obviously I was young and

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I've lost all the records I kept at the

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time

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it was in a place that I used to play

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around that time

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so um 7677

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and it was either

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July or September I think

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because

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um it was it was a time when it was

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still like quite quite still light quite

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late in the evening so

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um I used to stay out I was allowed to

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stay out a bit later

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and

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I remember the sky being really really

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blue I don't remember it getting dark at

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all um and it was the evening it was

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early evening

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um so I'd probably say summer of 76

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either July or September and my dad got

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me into UFOs he actually bought UFO

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books and brought them home

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um he had a book by fondantican it's

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probably the famous book I forget what

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it's called right now and um he had a

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few others around which I still have a

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couple of them

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yeah we watched documentaries together

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being my dad and we even went out he

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drove us out to UFO hot spots in Devon

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or Dartmouth at times see if we could

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see something

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um we never did as far as I know

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um I was in the park with my sister

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anyway this time this particular case

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next to Lara Railway Depot in Plymouth

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um in England and it was a sunny early

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evening pretty much Cloud free I think

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completely current free if I remember

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correctly and I saw something in the sky

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very clear and still

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um it was kind of like a glassy ball

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shape of an orb some sort of orb

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um

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and it was very still and very you could

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see it very clearly although it was a

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long way away so wow oh very small

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um I can't say I remember

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too much how it first appeared to me but

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I remember it was a disc and very soon

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after I started watching it it started

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giving off light so there may have been

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a period where it was just a disc and

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then it started giving off a sequence of

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light it moved from green blue and red

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as those alternating between green blue

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and red and that went on for quite a

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long time as well I can't remember

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exactly what the sequence was I did at

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the time draw all this out on a bit of

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paper but I've lost it and at some point

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I noticed I wasn't the only person

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watching there may be

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maybe around a dozen kids

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um

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except with the parents

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and quite a few now are watching this

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object

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um

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one kid I remember asked his dad what it

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was and the dad said oh it's nothing

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it clearly wasn't nothing it clearly was

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something

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um and because of my interest in UFOs I

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was deterred to stay watching it to see

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how it ended I think my sister probably

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wasn't that interested and wanted to go

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home but uh I didn't want to go home and

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I'm not sure the time involved but it

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felt like a long time that we were

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standing there watching it at some point

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I know it's a tiny Cloud being blown

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along towards the object so there's

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otherwise blue sky and there was this um

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tiny tiny cloud and it was moving in a

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very straight line towards the object

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um and it was noticeable because it was

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the only Cloud visible in the whole sky

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at the time the cloud moved until it

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covered up the object so you couldn't

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see the disc

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with the with the lights on it anymore

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um you could just see the cloud

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and then it stopped it stopped moving

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and it just stayed in one place and then

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a bit of time passed and a plane flew

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out of the cloud

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no player flown in nothing had flown in

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all of this was very clear so I wasn't

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mistaken it for anything else

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um and if I had seen a plane going to

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the cloud I would have seen it because I

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was watching it they had the host guides

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across to get to the Cloud I would have

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seen it somewhere

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aren't their parents of a passenger jet

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plane

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flying at whatever cruising altitude

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they fly over Plymouth and um

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I remember seeing planes flying that

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High

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um there's no airport nearby so they did

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just fly over well there was no airport

552
00:24:04,430 --> 00:24:02,820
at the time nearby

553
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:04,440
and I don't think we have many planes

554
00:24:09,470 --> 00:24:06,600
flying over that one military so the

555
00:24:12,970 --> 00:24:09,480
nearest airport was a major airport was

556
00:24:15,649 --> 00:24:12,980
40 miles away the plane was silent

557
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:15,659
which I knew was unusual because you'd

558
00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,039
normally hear something

559
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,440
and it had no contrails at all which

560
00:24:23,870 --> 00:24:21,840
also again I noticed as being unusual

561
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:23,880
because you would normally see a bloody

562
00:24:28,010 --> 00:24:24,840
great

563
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:28,020
um contrail commit Cloud coming out the

564
00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,559
back along you know the long clouds

565
00:24:35,870 --> 00:24:33,120
Left Behind

566
00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:35,880
um so I watched it move it just carried

567
00:24:39,049 --> 00:24:37,679
on going across the sky

568
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:39,059
um I can't remember what happened to the

569
00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:41,159
cloud whether it dissipated or whether

570
00:24:43,490 --> 00:24:42,480
it was still there I can't remember that

571
00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:43,500
at all now

572
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:47,100
but the plane moved

573
00:24:50,750 --> 00:24:48,960
um towards um

574
00:24:53,090 --> 00:24:50,760
think it was going north it was moving

575
00:24:55,490 --> 00:24:53,100
towards Dartmoor from where I was so

576
00:24:58,669 --> 00:24:55,500
maybe North East

577
00:25:00,169 --> 00:24:58,679
and then it vanished it just disappeared

578
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,179
it just winged out of existence it

579
00:25:05,210 --> 00:25:02,400
didn't fade away it didn't speed up

580
00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:05,220
unless it's unless it was really fast so

581
00:25:09,250 --> 00:25:07,080
I couldn't see it going

582
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,260
um but no it just went out of existence

583
00:25:13,549 --> 00:25:12,000
suddenly gone so I was I can't remember

584
00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:13,559
watching for a while after that I think

585
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,659
I seem to remember to see if anything

586
00:25:19,250 --> 00:25:17,520
more happened

587
00:25:21,649 --> 00:25:19,260
uh bug speed I can't remember what

588
00:25:25,610 --> 00:25:21,659
happened to the cloud but

589
00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,620
um after that uh I went home and uh told

590
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:26,880
my parents

591
00:25:30,590 --> 00:25:28,620
um my dad said he was envious as he

592
00:25:32,029 --> 00:25:30,600
never even seen the UFO in fact he said

593
00:25:34,190 --> 00:25:32,039
that a few times I think he was a bit

594
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:34,200
annoyed that he wasn't there or that I

595
00:25:37,850 --> 00:25:36,000
saw one without him I drew the whole

596
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:37,860
thing out using my colored pens I wrote

597
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:39,900
a description and spent the evening

598
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:41,700
doing that I've got a feeling it was a

599
00:25:47,090 --> 00:25:44,520
Sunday so I had a Sunday evening to sit

600
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,100
and do that I wish I still had that but

601
00:25:51,830 --> 00:25:49,919
I don't uh probably lost it fairly

602
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,840
quickly to be honest

603
00:25:56,690 --> 00:25:53,760
um threw it out because she wasn't into

604
00:25:59,450 --> 00:25:56,700
it at all and uh I never reported it

605
00:26:01,789 --> 00:25:59,460
either so whether I remember at the time

606
00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:01,799
I had intention to I think in the end I

607
00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:03,900
just wasn't sure who I could report it

608
00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,360
to who'd be interested and it just I

609
00:26:11,450 --> 00:26:08,940
just let it go I was quite excited by it

610
00:26:13,549 --> 00:26:11,460
I told quite a few people at the time

611
00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:13,559
um individually people that I thought I

612
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,299
could trust

613
00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:17,039
um I remember trying to get people at

614
00:26:21,529 --> 00:26:18,779
school trying to help people at school

615
00:26:24,169 --> 00:26:21,539
about it and get my sister in as a as as

616
00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:24,179
as as a witness and she just said I

617
00:26:27,529 --> 00:26:25,100
don't remember

618
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:27,539
a couple of times later she said I don't

619
00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:29,700
remember anything so she wasn't going to

620
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:33,779
talk about it and uh months later I read

621
00:26:40,029 --> 00:26:37,260
the Mothman Prophecies by junk Hill and

622
00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:40,039
there was a case in there of a UFO

623
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:43,320
simply got covered up by a cloud and

624
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:47,580
then a biplane flew out of it and uh I

625
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:49,740
remember thinking that this sounds a

626
00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:52,140
little bit similar to what I saw so that

627
00:26:55,430 --> 00:26:54,299
then the lights as well it's similar

628
00:26:57,529 --> 00:26:55,440
with the lights and I got a little bit

629
00:27:00,350 --> 00:26:57,539
excited Again by that

630
00:27:02,269 --> 00:27:00,360
um because I wasn't that long after the

631
00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:02,279
book had come out so it was that was

632
00:27:06,649 --> 00:27:04,260
quite a recent I mean I know it was in

633
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:06,659
the 60s but it was it felt like quite a

634
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,659
recent thing to me at the time and

635
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:11,039
that's it really

636
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,559
that's it I've seen other things since

637
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,559
but that's the best thing I've ever seen

638
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:18,240
um and that's the first thing I ever saw

639
00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:21,480
okay thank you hey Ryan Kevin here so

640
00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:24,539
approximately almost 10 years ago now I

641
00:27:29,330 --> 00:27:27,179
was driving home on the freeway maybe

642
00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:29,340
two to three in the morning and I was

643
00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:32,039
coming up on the roundabout to go switch

644
00:27:39,529 --> 00:27:35,240
freeways maybe about a mile from home

645
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:39,539
and I could see these three red orbs

646
00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:41,580
um floating above the freeway and I just

647
00:27:47,330 --> 00:27:43,559
knew in my gut that it wasn't anything

648
00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:47,340
normal like flying there and

649
00:27:53,450 --> 00:27:50,039
I had been into UFOs and things like

650
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,460
that um just casually as as a kid didn't

651
00:27:58,970 --> 00:27:55,919
really know if I disbelieved it or did

652
00:28:00,769 --> 00:27:58,980
believe it but in that moment I I it was

653
00:28:02,690 --> 00:28:00,779
kind of like a confirmation for me that

654
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:02,700
this these things are real and that's

655
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:05,100
what this was that I was witnessing

656
00:28:10,190 --> 00:28:08,220
and as I came up around the roundabout I

657
00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:10,200
drove right underneath them and I would

658
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:12,179
say that if I were to stand on top of my

659
00:28:18,049 --> 00:28:14,880
car and reach up I could probably touch

660
00:28:19,669 --> 00:28:18,059
one of them knowing that this was a rare

661
00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:19,679
occurrence I

662
00:28:24,649 --> 00:28:23,159
erased home and my mom would happen to

663
00:28:27,230 --> 00:28:24,659
be up she works late

664
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:27,240
and I grabbed her I said you got to come

665
00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:28,380
see this

666
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:30,120
didn't tell her what it was I said you

667
00:28:33,890 --> 00:28:31,500
just have to see it it's very

668
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:33,900
interesting we got in the car drove back

669
00:28:38,870 --> 00:28:36,600
again as only about less than a mile

670
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,880
away so it didn't take long and they

671
00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:40,620
were completely gone

672
00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:43,799
like not even far away

673
00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:45,480
anything like that it was completely

674
00:28:51,289 --> 00:28:49,140
gone and of course I probably seemed

675
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,299
crazy to my mom at the time because she

676
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:53,039
here I am at two or three in the morning

677
00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:55,620
grabbing her to take her to see

678
00:28:59,810 --> 00:28:58,500
something and it's not there anymore she

679
00:29:00,590 --> 00:28:59,820
probably thought I was on drugs or

680
00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:00,600
something

681
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:05,039
but anyway that was it and I

682
00:29:09,590 --> 00:29:07,679
at the time I kind of had a regret

683
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,600
of racing home

684
00:29:15,250 --> 00:29:11,039
and

685
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:15,260
you know maybe

686
00:29:20,570 --> 00:29:18,360
had the experience and last a little bit

687
00:29:24,110 --> 00:29:20,580
longer so that I could you know take

688
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:24,120
more detail into it or whatever how is

689
00:29:30,409 --> 00:29:27,600
it probably close to 18 19 years old so

690
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:30,419
I had just started driving out on my own

691
00:29:35,570 --> 00:29:32,700
and things like that so I would say I

692
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:35,580
was becoming into adulthood and having

693
00:29:40,730 --> 00:29:38,820
this experience confirmed that

694
00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:40,740
these things were real

695
00:29:45,289 --> 00:29:43,679
was kind of a

696
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,299
relief to me

697
00:29:50,149 --> 00:29:47,520
because I actually witnessed it myself

698
00:29:51,889 --> 00:29:50,159
and I didn't have to base it on anyone

699
00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:51,899
else's belief

700
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:55,320
but at the same time now thinking back

701
00:30:00,289 --> 00:29:58,260
it almost taught me that to have a

702
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:00,299
little bit of sympathy or empathy for

703
00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:03,120
for other Witnesses because the first

704
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,220
thing that people do when they talk

705
00:30:09,289 --> 00:30:07,440
about an experience that they had you

706
00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:09,299
know that someone's gonna say oh there

707
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:11,220
were seagulls they were

708
00:30:18,110 --> 00:30:13,740
Chinese lanterns they were

709
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:18,120
swamp gas whatever you may have but in

710
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,200
that moment

711
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,120
the best way I could describe them to

712
00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:24,000
you would be a Chinese lantern

713
00:30:28,549 --> 00:30:26,279
because that's the closest

714
00:30:29,930 --> 00:30:28,559
physical thing that I could use to

715
00:30:31,370 --> 00:30:29,940
describe it

716
00:30:33,889 --> 00:30:31,380
however

717
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:33,899
that's not what it was and I I just know

718
00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:36,720
it was not three Chinese lanterns it was

719
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:38,279
in the

720
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:42,960
um I live in I lived in this small town

721
00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:44,640
at the time

722
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:46,260
so

723
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:48,360
two and three in the morning I highly

724
00:30:51,889 --> 00:30:50,460
doubt someone would be floating three

725
00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:51,899
Chinese lanterns in the middle of

726
00:30:57,409 --> 00:30:54,020
nowhere

727
00:30:59,090 --> 00:30:57,419
beyond that I I know that they were

728
00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,100
floating there they weren't flying so

729
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:01,860
they weren't going up going down

730
00:31:07,789 --> 00:31:05,399
moving at all they were just there

731
00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:07,799
and almost like they were just hanging

732
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:10,260
from something

733
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:12,120
and

734
00:31:18,950 --> 00:31:14,100
no

735
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:18,960
be hanging from but just the way that

736
00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:21,360
they were there in the sky you it was

737
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:23,880
just as if something was holding them

738
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:25,320
there

739
00:31:32,870 --> 00:31:31,370
I've seen Chinese lanterns before I know

740
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:32,880
that that's not what it was but that's

741
00:31:36,049 --> 00:31:34,559
just the best thing that I could use to

742
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:36,059
describe it

743
00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:37,440
um so it kind of gives me a lot of

744
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:39,120
empathy for

745
00:31:45,409 --> 00:31:41,880
um other experiences because when people

746
00:31:48,169 --> 00:31:45,419
doubt them you know it's easy to

747
00:31:50,029 --> 00:31:48,179
to say oh yeah Kevin saw three Chinese

748
00:31:53,149 --> 00:31:50,039
lanterns floating in the sky it was no

749
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:53,159
it wasn't a big deal but

750
00:31:56,450 --> 00:31:55,320
unless you experience it yourself and

751
00:31:59,510 --> 00:31:56,460
you have

752
00:32:02,510 --> 00:31:59,520
the entire experience it's kind of hard

753
00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:02,520
to say what someone else is experiencing

754
00:32:07,190 --> 00:32:04,740
because

755
00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:07,200
I just had this feeling like in my gut

756
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:09,480
that I knew that that's what they were

757
00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:12,059
I don't know if that was a feeling

758
00:32:18,769 --> 00:32:14,760
coming from what it was or if it was

759
00:32:21,470 --> 00:32:18,779
just in my heart or whatever but

760
00:32:24,649 --> 00:32:21,480
I knew that what I saw was not normal

761
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:24,659
and it was confirmed to me

762
00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,840
so yeah I don't know I'm looking back I

763
00:32:31,970 --> 00:32:29,100
this was

764
00:32:34,370 --> 00:32:31,980
cell phones were just becoming popular

765
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:34,380
weren't very widespread so it's not like

766
00:32:37,370 --> 00:32:36,179
I could have snapped a photo of it with

767
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,380
my cell phone

768
00:32:41,930 --> 00:32:39,600
if I did it was probably less than a

769
00:32:44,630 --> 00:32:41,940
megapixel of a camera so it's not like

770
00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:44,640
the photo would have come out very well

771
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:46,799
just looking back I just kind of have a

772
00:32:51,950 --> 00:32:49,080
regret that I I wish I had some kind of

773
00:32:55,490 --> 00:32:51,960
a camera some kind of a video camera

774
00:32:57,409 --> 00:32:55,500
to record the experience I guess that's

775
00:32:59,690 --> 00:32:57,419
why my first thought was to race home

776
00:33:01,789 --> 00:32:59,700
and grab my mom to come experience it as

777
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:01,799
well because I needed someone else to

778
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:04,080
back me up and say that what I had seen

779
00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:06,000
was real

780
00:33:12,070 --> 00:33:08,940
but I I it also gives me a lot of

781
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,080
empathy for other experiences because

782
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:14,279
people always say like well why didn't

783
00:33:19,549 --> 00:33:16,860
you record it why didn't you

784
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:19,559
draw a picture of it why didn't you do

785
00:33:24,409 --> 00:33:21,720
this or that

786
00:33:26,509 --> 00:33:24,419
um watches the camera so shaky

787
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:26,519
again like unless you're in that in that

788
00:33:30,169 --> 00:33:27,840
moment

789
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:30,179
you don't know what you're gonna do

790
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,740
and you almost kind of react at a

791
00:33:39,889 --> 00:33:36,720
I don't know what the word to use uh

792
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:39,899
maybe like a wild naturistic

793
00:33:44,930 --> 00:33:42,240
level like you just respond naturally

794
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:44,940
you don't think about what's gonna you

795
00:33:50,029 --> 00:33:46,740
know oh I should shoot a camera a

796
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:52,909
um grab my video camera you just

797
00:33:57,230 --> 00:33:55,320
you're in such awe of the experience

798
00:34:00,049 --> 00:33:57,240
that you're not thinking

799
00:34:01,490 --> 00:34:00,059
logically of what you should do in that

800
00:34:03,769 --> 00:34:01,500
moment

801
00:34:06,289 --> 00:34:03,779
to prove that this experience happened

802
00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:06,299
you're just experiencing it

803
00:34:11,329 --> 00:34:08,280
and so that gives me a lot of empathy

804
00:34:14,089 --> 00:34:11,339
for for people that are willing to share

805
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:14,099
this in fact this is probably the first

806
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:18,000
time I've ever shared this publicly

807
00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:19,399
just because

808
00:34:24,770 --> 00:34:22,740
I feel like it wasn't an experience for

809
00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:24,780
me to to share it was just something

810
00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:28,679
that maybe I needed to see to confirm my

811
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:31,460
belief in these things being out there

812
00:34:37,609 --> 00:34:35,399
again I was just going into adulthood so

813
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:37,619
maybe it was some type of

814
00:34:42,950 --> 00:34:40,560
lesson for me to say you know

815
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:42,960
I'm not going off into adulthood alone I

816
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:43,800
have

817
00:34:48,230 --> 00:34:46,320
um someone looking out for me

818
00:34:49,790 --> 00:34:48,240
or maybe in the moment just because I

819
00:34:52,190 --> 00:34:49,800
was driving home so late maybe they were

820
00:34:53,570 --> 00:34:52,200
there looking after me to make sure I

821
00:34:56,990 --> 00:34:53,580
got home okay I don't I really don't

822
00:34:59,450 --> 00:34:57,000
know but all in all it's just like I

823
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:59,460
said you you can't really judge

824
00:35:02,690 --> 00:35:01,200
someone's experience unless you've

825
00:35:04,010 --> 00:35:02,700
experienced something similar to

826
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:04,020
yourself

827
00:35:08,210 --> 00:35:06,180
because you don't know what you're gonna

828
00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:08,220
do in that moment

829
00:35:12,349 --> 00:35:10,619
it's just like someone that's in an

830
00:35:13,970 --> 00:35:12,359
accident when you're looking back you're

831
00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:13,980
out shoot I wish I would have done this

832
00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:15,480
or that

833
00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:16,980
um I wish I would have grabbed my

834
00:35:19,990 --> 00:35:19,380
special

835
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:20,000
um

836
00:35:24,770 --> 00:35:22,320
sentimental item from my house before my

837
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:24,780
house burnt down I wish I would have

838
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:28,680
grabbed my phone out of my car before

839
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:31,440
the car caught on fire

840
00:35:36,290 --> 00:35:34,500
I don't know just you always have those

841
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:36,300
regrets because because in the moment

842
00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:37,859
you're not thinking logically you're

843
00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:39,900
just thinking

844
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:42,060
of the experience

845
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:43,500
and so I think that's something that

846
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:45,480
everyone should keep in mind whether

847
00:35:50,990 --> 00:35:49,020
you're an experiencer or not that

848
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:51,000
just have an open heart and open mind

849
00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:53,520
and believe

850
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:55,700
foreign

851
00:36:01,609 --> 00:35:59,280
I am 47 I live on the Gold Coast in

852
00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:01,619
Australia I wear a few hats for work but

853
00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:03,180
I mostly work as an instructional

854
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:05,700
designer I also have a professional Fine

855
00:36:11,089 --> 00:36:08,040
Arts and photography practice and

856
00:36:12,829 --> 00:36:11,099
degrees in teaching and visual arts the

857
00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:12,839
Gold Coast is a city with a population

858
00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:16,740
of around 680 000 people and as the name

859
00:36:20,750 --> 00:36:18,900
suggests is on the East Coast of

860
00:36:23,329 --> 00:36:20,760
Australia bordering the states of

861
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:23,339
Queensland and New South Wales I live

862
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:26,040
about 15 kilometers away from the beach

863
00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:30,240
this event took place in 2011. it was

864
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:34,040
about 9 00 PM it was a dark evening

865
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:36,900
there was very little Moonlight and the

866
00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:40,560
sky was clear and there was no wind I

867
00:36:44,750 --> 00:36:43,500
was taking a bag of garbage out to a

868
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:44,760
larger bin

869
00:36:49,370 --> 00:36:46,260
that we have around the side of the

870
00:36:51,170 --> 00:36:49,380
house and faces the southeast as I

871
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,180
walked via the property's front to go

872
00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:53,760
around the House's side at about a 75

873
00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:56,579
degree angle to the Horizon and to the

874
00:37:03,170 --> 00:36:59,220
South was an object moving slowly across

875
00:37:06,530 --> 00:37:03,180
the sky from east to west at roughly 500

876
00:37:08,829 --> 00:37:06,540
to 700 feet it moved at a steady pace of

877
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:08,839
perhaps 20 to 30 kilometers per hour

878
00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:12,480
which translates to 10 to 15 knots or 12

879
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:15,839
to 18 miles per hour beneath it it had

880
00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:18,260
three round orbs of red color

881
00:37:24,589 --> 00:37:21,359
equidistant apart in an equilateral

882
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,599
triangle the orbs had a steady red glow

883
00:37:29,630 --> 00:37:26,400
and within each of the orbs was another

884
00:37:31,970 --> 00:37:29,640
darker colored orb but it was also

885
00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:31,980
reddish in the center the orbs were

886
00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:34,619
fairly close to each other but not that

887
00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:36,780
far apart

888
00:37:43,069 --> 00:37:40,380
the red glow had the intensity of an

889
00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,079
electric hot plate turned on high

890
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:45,839
it was tough to tell how big or what

891
00:37:50,690 --> 00:37:47,760
shape the object was because it was dark

892
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,700
and I could only see the orbs the orbs

893
00:37:55,370 --> 00:37:52,800
appeared to be a part of the same

894
00:37:57,230 --> 00:37:55,380
structure so they didn't appear to be

895
00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:57,240
separately moving objects I would

896
00:38:02,990 --> 00:37:59,160
suggest the object was 30 feet in

897
00:38:05,210 --> 00:38:03,000
diameter or possibly more but I'm only

898
00:38:07,190 --> 00:38:05,220
guessing I can't really tell

899
00:38:09,170 --> 00:38:07,200
the object held a steady course in

900
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:09,180
altitude for the entire time I watched

901
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:11,280
it which lasted for as long it was

902
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,740
visible to me which would have been five

903
00:38:18,290 --> 00:38:16,200
minutes or more the object also emitted

904
00:38:20,569 --> 00:38:18,300
a very unusual sound

905
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:20,579
if you can imagine the sound of gas

906
00:38:25,609 --> 00:38:22,740
inside a gas bottle when you turn a gas

907
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:25,619
bottle on or off it emitted a kind of

908
00:38:30,530 --> 00:38:27,780
crackling sound and the sound was

909
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:30,540
contained within something as as though

910
00:38:35,569 --> 00:38:32,880
it was metallic it was though an echo

911
00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:35,579
coming from within a metallic object

912
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:37,560
when I first saw the object I

913
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:39,660
immediately thought it was a fancy

914
00:38:47,569 --> 00:38:42,960
Chinese lantern and although not

915
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,579
dismissive I kind of didn't really think

916
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,200
too much of it because I thought oh

917
00:38:53,150 --> 00:38:50,640
that's really cool

918
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,160
but after about 10 or 15 seconds and

919
00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:55,680
having heard the sound it was making and

920
00:39:01,250 --> 00:38:58,380
by its size its trajectory its course

921
00:39:02,569 --> 00:39:01,260
its altitude I began to doubt that very

922
00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,579
quickly

923
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:04,440
I'm not aware of Chinese lanterns making

924
00:39:10,010 --> 00:39:06,780
that kind of sound and I have no doubts

925
00:39:12,530 --> 00:39:10,020
that this object was making that sound

926
00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:12,540
there was no wind either yet the object

927
00:39:16,849 --> 00:39:14,579
retained a steady path and wasn't

928
00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:16,859
gaining in altitude

929
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:18,660
there was no flickering at all from the

930
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:22,079
orbs it was a solid constant glow

931
00:39:26,329 --> 00:39:24,060
I didn't consider it a drone either

932
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:26,339
because drones were quite rare in

933
00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:29,640
Australia in 2011 and the sound it made

934
00:39:34,010 --> 00:39:31,859
was entirely different for a drone

935
00:39:35,870 --> 00:39:34,020
so that's why I kept watching it I was

936
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:35,880
waiting for something to happen and it

937
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:37,200
just kept going

938
00:39:41,450 --> 00:39:39,420
I considered grabbing my phone or camera

939
00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:41,460
but I thought it might disappear when I

940
00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:47,450
so the next morning I looked up any

941
00:39:52,069 --> 00:39:49,500
local headlines on the internet there

942
00:39:53,690 --> 00:39:52,079
was nothing I went to work and told the

943
00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:53,700
small team of four people I worked with

944
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:55,800
did anyone hear of anything in the news

945
00:39:59,870 --> 00:39:58,320
about a possible UFO or did anyone see

946
00:40:02,569 --> 00:39:59,880
anything last night

947
00:40:04,490 --> 00:40:02,579
and no one did they all listened and

948
00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:04,500
took it quite seriously when I told them

949
00:40:08,329 --> 00:40:06,720
what I had experienced and they asked

950
00:40:09,410 --> 00:40:08,339
the same kinds of questions that I asked

951
00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:09,420
myself

952
00:40:13,250 --> 00:40:11,520
and then one of them cracked a joke and

953
00:40:14,930 --> 00:40:13,260
everyone laughed and that was kind of

954
00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:14,940
the end of the discussion

955
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:17,700
I didn't speak about it much after that

956
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:19,260
mainly because I didn't think reporting

957
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:21,720
it would have any consequence and unless

958
00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:23,160
someone stepped forward and announced

959
00:40:27,230 --> 00:40:25,320
that they had constructed this thing and

960
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:27,240
could explain what it was then there was

961
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:30,960
no telling what it was we can only guess

962
00:40:36,589 --> 00:40:33,359
although I still don't know what I saw

963
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:36,599
was and am reluctant to say I saw a UAP

964
00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:39,540
or UFO I do fervently believe in the

965
00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:41,579
phenomena of uaps

966
00:40:45,890 --> 00:40:43,740
while I can't rule out that some UAP

967
00:40:48,130 --> 00:40:45,900
sightings are the products of U.S black

968
00:40:50,930 --> 00:40:48,140
budgets I am reasonably certain

969
00:40:53,089 --> 00:40:50,940
unidentified aerial phenomena of unknown

970
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:53,099
Origins are visiting us

971
00:40:57,290 --> 00:40:55,680
what they are how they get here who or

972
00:40:59,450 --> 00:40:57,300
what controls them are the big

973
00:41:02,030 --> 00:40:59,460
unanswered questions and this is what

974
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:02,040
drives my curiosity and desire to study

975
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:06,000
them thanks so much for having me

976
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:08,400
my name is Luis Jimenez

977
00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:10,920
um I am an actor in Los Angeles

978
00:41:16,970 --> 00:41:15,119
California and I have I run the YouTube

979
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,980
channel the unidentified celebrity

980
00:41:21,950 --> 00:41:18,960
review if you haven't heard of it please

981
00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:21,960
go check it out I I'm very fascinated by

982
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:24,420
the UAP topic of course if you do or do

983
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:26,700
not know I've also very politically

984
00:41:32,329 --> 00:41:30,000
active in moving this UAP topic further

985
00:41:33,530 --> 00:41:32,339
into the halls of Congress and our

986
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,540
Senators

987
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,760
um it's I love this topic for a

988
00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:37,200
multitude of reasons I'm not going to

989
00:41:40,069 --> 00:41:38,760
get into that here

990
00:41:45,730 --> 00:41:40,079
because that's not what you're here for

991
00:41:49,910 --> 00:41:45,740
you're here for my story so the year is

992
00:41:53,089 --> 00:41:49,920
1993. I was 13 years old I was living in

993
00:41:55,310 --> 00:41:53,099
Cooper City Florida and it's about 20

994
00:41:58,490 --> 00:41:55,320
miles outside of Miami

995
00:42:01,150 --> 00:41:58,500
so I was 13 years old and my best friend

996
00:42:04,670 --> 00:42:01,160
at the time whose name was Tony

997
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:04,680
invited me to a birthday party of one of

998
00:42:08,329 --> 00:42:06,240
his friends now I can't remember this

999
00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:08,339
girl's name but what I do remember is

1000
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:10,500
that she didn't live very far from me

1001
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:14,880
I'd say probably two miles tops but you

1002
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:17,640
know again my my house was one of these

1003
00:42:22,910 --> 00:42:19,680
very cookie cutter developments in her

1004
00:42:26,329 --> 00:42:22,920
house was literally lined up against an

1005
00:42:29,150 --> 00:42:26,339
entire cow pasture so you know we get to

1006
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,160
this party yeah great time you know

1007
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:31,680
typical kid's birthday party but there

1008
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,980
was a lot of people this was a big

1009
00:42:41,870 --> 00:42:36,720
property these people had a lot of

1010
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:41,880
friends and so the this was around I'd

1011
00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:43,200
say summertime it had to have been

1012
00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:47,220
Summer and the sun went down and the

1013
00:42:52,910 --> 00:42:49,560
party was still going on and at some

1014
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:52,920
point my friend Tony and I

1015
00:43:00,290 --> 00:42:57,599
see this girl who's standing out in the

1016
00:43:03,170 --> 00:43:00,300
middle of this property and

1017
00:43:06,290 --> 00:43:03,180
she's by herself and I think it was

1018
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:06,300
actually the girl whose party it was

1019
00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:09,720
and and she's looking to the sky and so

1020
00:43:14,510 --> 00:43:12,300
we're like what is she doing so we

1021
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:14,520
walked over there and we're saying hey

1022
00:43:20,089 --> 00:43:16,560
what are you looking at what's going on

1023
00:43:22,910 --> 00:43:20,099
and she points up and we see now this is

1024
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:22,920
where my memory really kind of jumbles

1025
00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:25,680
because you gotta understand this is a

1026
00:43:31,550 --> 00:43:28,380
27 year old memory we we both look up

1027
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:31,560
and I do remember seeing a strange light

1028
00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:34,079
but it was pretty high

1029
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:37,020
and it was pretty far away nothing crazy

1030
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,760
unusual about it

1031
00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:40,319
but then this is where my memory really

1032
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:43,380
jumbles the next thing I remember is

1033
00:43:46,430 --> 00:43:44,760
that this light

1034
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:46,440
is hovering

1035
00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:51,000
a hundred feet above a cow pasture and

1036
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:55,020
it's the size of two school buses two

1037
00:43:58,990 --> 00:43:57,540
school buses stacked on top of one

1038
00:44:01,390 --> 00:43:59,000
another

1039
00:44:04,609 --> 00:44:01,400
I don't remember

1040
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:04,619
I see man gosh this is this is where

1041
00:44:10,970 --> 00:44:07,380
memories really play tricks but I

1042
00:44:14,329 --> 00:44:10,980
remember it having a shape but I don't

1043
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,339
remember any distinct lines what I

1044
00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:16,319
remember the first description I thought

1045
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:19,020
of when I was explaining it to people

1046
00:44:24,109 --> 00:44:21,900
was it looks like a breakfast bowl like

1047
00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:24,119
you would put your cereal in

1048
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:25,980
and imagine if you took that breakfast

1049
00:44:33,770 --> 00:44:28,880
bowl and just made it

1050
00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:33,780
you know one tenth smaller than the the

1051
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:36,180
original breakfast bowl and then you

1052
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:37,800
take that breakfast bowl and you flip it

1053
00:44:42,010 --> 00:44:39,780
on top of the one sitting on the table

1054
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,020
and you put them together at The Rim

1055
00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:44,220
that's kind of what this thing looked

1056
00:44:50,089 --> 00:44:46,380
like and what I really remember

1057
00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:50,099
was how bright it was especially in the

1058
00:44:58,250 --> 00:44:54,060
middle the middle of it was so bright

1059
00:45:00,170 --> 00:44:58,260
white and the outside Aura of it if I

1060
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,180
remember correctly was almost like a

1061
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:01,920
green hue

1062
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:07,260
as soon as I saw it I do remember and of

1063
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:10,859
course by this time the entire party

1064
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:14,940
had walked over to where we were and you

1065
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:18,720
were hearing wow oh my God what is that

1066
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:22,319
what's going on and as this is happening

1067
00:45:31,010 --> 00:45:26,220
it was almost like slow motion even as a

1068
00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:31,020
as a 13 year old kid I can remember

1069
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:34,619
going through my mental Rolodex

1070
00:45:41,650 --> 00:45:38,280
of what this object could be

1071
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:41,660
helicopter no there's no noise

1072
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:43,980
it's close enough we should hear

1073
00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:46,500
something if it's a helicopter is it a

1074
00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:48,839
blimp no it's not big enough to be a

1075
00:45:54,349 --> 00:45:51,180
blimp and I've been around blimps I've

1076
00:45:59,150 --> 00:45:54,359
been around the Goodyear blimp it's way

1077
00:46:02,210 --> 00:45:59,160
Louder Than This object is I mean the a

1078
00:46:04,490 --> 00:46:02,220
big Goodyear blimp and they're very

1079
00:46:06,109 --> 00:46:04,500
common in this area of Florida that I

1080
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:06,119
lived in blimps are very very common

1081
00:46:09,950 --> 00:46:07,980
because we had the Miami Dolphins that

1082
00:46:12,109 --> 00:46:09,960
played all the time that's not far from

1083
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:12,119
our home and they're just there's always

1084
00:46:16,849 --> 00:46:13,920
something going on in Fort Lauderdale or

1085
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:16,859
Miami that requires a Goodyear blimp

1086
00:46:20,809 --> 00:46:18,540
seeing the Goodyear blink was something

1087
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:20,819
that I was very very familiar with it

1088
00:46:24,290 --> 00:46:22,260
was not a blimp

1089
00:46:27,050 --> 00:46:24,300
couldn't have been a plane because it

1090
00:46:29,630 --> 00:46:27,060
was stationary and also what is a plane

1091
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:29,640
doing above a cow pasture I mean I'm

1092
00:46:34,609 --> 00:46:31,680
literally I'm going through this Rolodex

1093
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:34,619
and nothing that I can think of is

1094
00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:38,520
matching what I'm looking at so as soon

1095
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:42,300
as I finish that mental Rolodex the

1096
00:46:47,690 --> 00:46:44,520
immediate thought that filled my brain

1097
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:47,700
was I want to get a better look at it so

1098
00:46:55,609 --> 00:46:52,500
I began to run I started running toward

1099
00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:55,619
this object but to do so I had to go

1100
00:47:01,550 --> 00:46:58,020
back the way I came and go around this

1101
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,560
little like berm or fenced area so I can

1102
00:47:06,530 --> 00:47:05,040
get to that dirt road that was closer to

1103
00:47:10,130 --> 00:47:06,540
the cow pasture

1104
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,140
and the this dirt road had trees that

1105
00:47:16,609 --> 00:47:12,480
where I'd say 50 feet taller like pine

1106
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:16,619
trees that lined the dirt road and I did

1107
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:19,260
not take my eye off of this object as I

1108
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:22,800
was trying to run closer to it and I did

1109
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,880
lose it behind these trees and the

1110
00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:29,760
second I got to the dirt road I lost

1111
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:32,040
track of it because it was Behind These

1112
00:47:36,589 --> 00:47:34,920
trees and then when I got to the road

1113
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:36,599
it was gone

1114
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:39,839
I never saw it again

1115
00:47:44,809 --> 00:47:42,420
um I did not see it leave

1116
00:47:47,390 --> 00:47:44,819
I don't remember the descriptions of the

1117
00:47:50,089 --> 00:47:47,400
other people that didn't run closer with

1118
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:50,099
me what they described as it left or

1119
00:47:54,290 --> 00:47:51,839
what did it look like did it zoom off

1120
00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:54,300
did it blink out I don't know I don't

1121
00:47:59,809 --> 00:47:56,180
remember asking and I don't remember

1122
00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:59,819
ants getting that question answered at

1123
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:01,460
any time

1124
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,760
I was floored

1125
00:48:11,150 --> 00:48:08,160
as a 13 year old kid I had already had

1126
00:48:13,309 --> 00:48:11,160
an interest in UFOs as a matter of fact

1127
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,319
the very first thing that got me into

1128
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:15,660
the UFO topic was the Bob Lazar story

1129
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:18,540
which had happened four years earlier

1130
00:48:25,609 --> 00:48:22,619
so my curiosity in this topic had

1131
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:25,619
already been fueled I was already

1132
00:48:30,349 --> 00:48:28,079
looking at UFO books in the library it

1133
00:48:32,930 --> 00:48:30,359
was a topic that I was very very

1134
00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:32,940
familiar with as a 13 year old kid

1135
00:48:37,069 --> 00:48:35,160
so that's why I think I was in a very

1136
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:37,079
unique position to witness something

1137
00:48:40,550 --> 00:48:38,099
like this

1138
00:48:43,069 --> 00:48:40,560
because I've already had a lot of frame

1139
00:48:44,569 --> 00:48:43,079
of reference especially when it came to

1140
00:48:46,609 --> 00:48:44,579
planes

1141
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,619
we lived pretty much right underneath

1142
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:48,720
the flight path of the Fort Lauderdale

1143
00:48:55,690 --> 00:48:52,319
International Airport so for an object

1144
00:49:00,050 --> 00:48:55,700
to be in that cow field at that time

1145
00:49:03,490 --> 00:49:00,060
was probably a Flight Risk you know

1146
00:49:07,089 --> 00:49:03,500
again this is this is the landing path

1147
00:49:11,450 --> 00:49:07,099
that you know major commercial airlines

1148
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:11,460
are using to land their planes so you

1149
00:49:15,550 --> 00:49:12,960
know you see a commercial jet come over

1150
00:49:18,770 --> 00:49:15,560
this property at a pretty low level

1151
00:49:20,329 --> 00:49:18,780
every 15-20 minutes you know back in

1152
00:49:22,970 --> 00:49:20,339
1993 Fort Lauderdale International

1153
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:22,980
Airport wasn't as busy as it is today

1154
00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:25,920
but you go today and you will see you

1155
00:49:30,589 --> 00:49:28,440
will hear airplanes commercial jets fly

1156
00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:30,599
over this property every five minutes

1157
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:33,240
now I mean there's constantly Landing

1158
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:36,240
so it was really easy to determine that

1159
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:38,940
this thing did not fit typical aircraft

1160
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,940
and not to mention living in Miami every

1161
00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:44,160
year we had the Miami International Air

1162
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:47,160
Show so I was very familiar with the

1163
00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:49,740
Blue Angels I was very familiar with jet

1164
00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:52,440
aircraft I had been in jet aircraft I

1165
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:54,180
mean of course I wasn't a professional

1166
00:49:58,130 --> 00:49:56,400
at 13 I wouldn't be able to tell you

1167
00:50:00,589 --> 00:49:58,140
what kind of jet I was looking at when

1168
00:50:01,930 --> 00:50:00,599
it was flying by at a close distance or

1169
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:01,940
a really far distance

1170
00:50:07,069 --> 00:50:04,920
but I I was familiar with the sounds

1171
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:07,079
with the Maneuvers what they look like

1172
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:09,720
what they especially sound like and

1173
00:50:14,990 --> 00:50:11,160
that's the thing that really really

1174
00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:15,000
struck me is so odd about this object

1175
00:50:22,970 --> 00:50:18,119
we were only three or four hundred yards

1176
00:50:26,030 --> 00:50:22,980
away from it and there was no sound

1177
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:26,040
and this is a time before drones this

1178
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:28,560
was a time before any of that kind of

1179
00:50:34,849 --> 00:50:31,200
Technology even existed

1180
00:50:39,170 --> 00:50:34,859
so it was profound

1181
00:50:43,069 --> 00:50:39,180
the the way it made me feel was excited

1182
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:43,079
I've never been that excited to have

1183
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:46,319
seen something in my life I think it did

1184
00:50:51,589 --> 00:50:48,839
Scare some people in the crowd but I was

1185
00:50:54,170 --> 00:50:51,599
really excited because I knew what I was

1186
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:54,180
looking at so much so that I tried to

1187
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,420
get a better look at it I try to get a

1188
00:51:01,670 --> 00:50:59,520
better look of it and it just didn't

1189
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,680
work out I wish I had stayed where I was

1190
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,119
because then maybe I would have been

1191
00:51:08,329 --> 00:51:06,000
able to see it take off or or blink out

1192
00:51:11,569 --> 00:51:08,339
or whatever happened but I never got the

1193
00:51:14,450 --> 00:51:11,579
opportunity to see that so with that

1194
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:14,460
excitement you know everybody in the

1195
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:17,940
party is now talking about this and I'm

1196
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:21,300
when I tell you there was at least 40

1197
00:51:27,470 --> 00:51:24,839
witnesses to this event there was 40

1198
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:27,480
witnesses to this event so this was I

1199
00:51:31,970 --> 00:51:29,280
was not by myself

1200
00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:31,980
and sure you could say maybe some of the

1201
00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:33,300
parents there were drinking and

1202
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:36,180
inebriated but there was kids there a

1203
00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:39,180
lot of kids and they all saw myself

1204
00:51:45,170 --> 00:51:43,020
included so my best friend's mom comes

1205
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:45,180
to pick us up and I'd say it was

1206
00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:47,880
probably around 9 30 at night when I got

1207
00:51:52,849 --> 00:51:48,660
home

1208
00:51:56,049 --> 00:51:52,859
and I burst through the front door at a

1209
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:56,059
million miles per hour and my entire

1210
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,880
house my sister my little brother my

1211
00:52:06,109 --> 00:52:02,400
mother my grandmother my stepdad they

1212
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:06,119
were all pretty much sleeping everybody

1213
00:52:12,829 --> 00:52:09,300
was in bed or getting ready to pass out

1214
00:52:18,829 --> 00:52:12,839
and I ran into my parents bedroom and I

1215
00:52:21,530 --> 00:52:18,839
was just so excited and so amped and so

1216
00:52:24,109 --> 00:52:21,540
I wanted him to hop out of bed and

1217
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:24,119
listen to what I was saying because the

1218
00:52:29,809 --> 00:52:27,359
the my life had just profoundly changed

1219
00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:29,819
and I wanted them to know

1220
00:52:35,450 --> 00:52:32,579
why

1221
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:35,460
my parents did not react the way I

1222
00:52:41,089 --> 00:52:39,119
wanted them to it it was like okay son

1223
00:52:43,730 --> 00:52:41,099
all right let's talk about it tomorrow

1224
00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:43,740
we'll talk about it tomorrow can we we

1225
00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:46,140
we're just trying to get some sleep

1226
00:52:50,569 --> 00:52:48,180
and I didn't sleep for the whole night

1227
00:52:52,549 --> 00:52:50,579
as a matter of fact what was interesting

1228
00:52:55,010 --> 00:52:52,559
is at the time I'm trying to remember

1229
00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:55,020
the name of the television show

1230
00:53:00,770 --> 00:52:57,480
but there was a there was a show on Fox

1231
00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:00,780
TV around this time where you could call

1232
00:53:05,870 --> 00:53:04,200
in and tell the television show about

1233
00:53:08,329 --> 00:53:05,880
your experience

1234
00:53:11,329 --> 00:53:08,339
and I was very detailed I remember the

1235
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:11,339
direction the uh the the way the wind

1236
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:14,280
was blowing uh what the temperature was

1237
00:53:20,450 --> 00:53:18,000
like where the craft was located

1238
00:53:22,609 --> 00:53:20,460
um in what direction it was when we

1239
00:53:24,589 --> 00:53:22,619
first saw it versus when we saw it over

1240
00:53:27,589 --> 00:53:24,599
the cow field in what direction that

1241
00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:27,599
that was I I laid out so many details

1242
00:53:34,190 --> 00:53:30,359
because they were so fresh on my mind to

1243
00:53:36,890 --> 00:53:34,200
a to the voicemail of this production

1244
00:53:40,250 --> 00:53:36,900
company so maybe somewhere out there

1245
00:53:42,890 --> 00:53:40,260
there's a recording of my testimony on

1246
00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:42,900
what happened with this sighting

1247
00:53:50,690 --> 00:53:46,440
and um it was I'm telling you the most

1248
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,700
profound moment of my life and ever

1249
00:53:54,849 --> 00:53:52,800
since then

1250
00:53:58,730 --> 00:53:54,859
I've been hooked

1251
00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:58,740
absolutely hooked and I've gone down the

1252
00:54:02,930 --> 00:54:01,319
rabbit holes I've worked my way out of

1253
00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:02,940
rabbit holes

1254
00:54:07,210 --> 00:54:05,640
and I the cool thing is is that it's

1255
00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:07,220
taken me

1256
00:54:13,549 --> 00:54:09,540
27 years

1257
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,559
to really formulate and learn how to

1258
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:16,079
talk about this experience but not only

1259
00:54:21,589 --> 00:54:17,760
this experience

1260
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:21,599
but my passion for this field and the

1261
00:54:27,950 --> 00:54:24,780
cool thing about finding this passion I

1262
00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:27,960
think in you know the latest part of my

1263
00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:30,540
life at least as of right now I started

1264
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:32,220
my show a year ago

1265
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:36,480
is that I could talk about this topic

1266
00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:39,599
without ridicule without people looking

1267
00:54:43,309 --> 00:54:41,880
at me like I have two heads this topic

1268
00:54:47,630 --> 00:54:43,319
is no longer

1269
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:47,640
saved for the tinfoil hat party

1270
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:51,119
and so you know that was my experience

1271
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:55,680
that was my aha moment and ever since

1272
00:55:01,069 --> 00:54:58,319
then it I assume this is kind of like

1273
00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:01,079
what heroin is like I've always been

1274
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:03,780
looking for that fix I want to see

1275
00:55:11,089 --> 00:55:07,380
another one I really really do I would

1276
00:55:15,049 --> 00:55:11,099
kill to go back in a time machine and

1277
00:55:18,890 --> 00:55:15,059
relive that night that summer night

1278
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:18,900
in 1993. so

1279
00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:20,520
I just want to say thank you to Ryan

1280
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,339
Sprague for allowing me to share this

1281
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:24,960
story

1282
00:55:30,470 --> 00:55:26,700
um it's not one that I like to share

1283
00:55:33,290 --> 00:55:30,480
often because of the

1284
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,300
the way I'm trying to formulate my

1285
00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:36,000
political activism around the UAP topic

1286
00:55:42,530 --> 00:55:39,420
and bringing personal stories

1287
00:55:46,849 --> 00:55:42,540
um is usually not very helpful in this

1288
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,859
field but I do enjoy the opportunity to

1289
00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:49,440
actually tell people because it is a

1290
00:55:54,589 --> 00:55:50,940
badge of honor I got to witness

1291
00:55:58,010 --> 00:55:54,599
something that very few people have ever

1292
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:58,020
ever experienced and I feel lucky I

1293
00:56:02,750 --> 00:55:59,520
really really do

1294
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:02,760
um and it's inspired every single

1295
00:56:06,370 --> 00:56:04,680
decision that I've made

1296
00:56:10,370 --> 00:56:06,380
in my life

1297
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,380
absolutely profound so

1298
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:12,960
thank you Ryan thank you uh to all the

1299
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:14,700
fans out there in the somewhere in the

1300
00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:17,460
skies family I consider you my family as

1301
00:56:22,730 --> 00:56:19,319
well Ryan Sprague is one of the best

1302
00:56:24,530 --> 00:56:22,740
human beings on the planet and uh and I

1303
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:24,540
would do anything for the man as I'm

1304
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:27,359
sure you guys would so show me love show

1305
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:30,839
me your support because he he's always

1306
00:56:36,410 --> 00:56:34,079
heading up wonderful ideas like this and

1307
00:56:39,470 --> 00:56:36,420
and wonderful ways to share personal

1308
00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:39,480
experiences because he's right they're

1309
00:56:43,970 --> 00:56:41,400
important we need to talk about them we

1310
00:56:46,790 --> 00:56:43,980
need to document them so that way we can

1311
00:56:48,770 --> 00:56:46,800
find similarities and and this is data

1312
00:56:50,270 --> 00:56:48,780
and it's good data you know

1313
00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:50,280
unfortunately right now it's not the

1314
00:56:58,010 --> 00:56:52,800
data our congressmen want to look at

1315
00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:58,020
but in 15 20 25 years I think this data

1316
00:57:04,609 --> 00:56:59,160
will be

1317
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,619
we want to tell they're going to want to

1318
00:57:08,270 --> 00:57:06,599
hear this data because they're going to

1319
00:57:10,250 --> 00:57:08,280
have such a mountain of data that

1320
00:57:11,390 --> 00:57:10,260
they're going to want to fill in gaps to

1321
00:57:13,370 --> 00:57:11,400
that data

1322
00:57:15,109 --> 00:57:13,380
and I think that's where we the people

1323
00:57:16,849 --> 00:57:15,119
will come in the people with these

1324
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:16,859
stories and experiences so thank you

1325
00:57:22,890 --> 00:57:20,280
Ryan Sprague and that's it I'm done stay

1326
00:57:31,220 --> 00:57:22,900
safe and be well peace

1327
00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:37,870
[Music]

1328
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,240
thank you

1329
00:57:49,490 --> 00:57:46,970
[Music]

1330
00:57:52,910 --> 00:57:49,500
hello my name is Brian Wellman I

1331
00:57:55,609 --> 00:57:52,920
currently live in Tennessee but in

1332
00:57:58,549 --> 00:57:55,619
September of 2019

1333
00:58:01,370 --> 00:57:58,559
I was visiting Moab Utah with my dad on

1334
00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:01,380
vacation and we were in Canyonlands

1335
00:58:07,150 --> 00:58:03,300
National Park

1336
00:58:09,710 --> 00:58:07,160
I had taken an online

1337
00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:09,720
photography class and I wanted to take

1338
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:11,760
some Milky Way photos

1339
00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:14,819
so we just we decided to go out that

1340
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:17,400
night and do that we had

1341
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:19,140
one last night where the moon was going

1342
00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,880
to be down about I can't remember the

1343
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:23,280
exact time around 10 30 at night

1344
00:58:26,750 --> 00:58:25,319
and then we should have a you know

1345
00:58:29,030 --> 00:58:26,760
pretty good night sky

1346
00:58:31,790 --> 00:58:29,040
it was cloudy and raining in some areas

1347
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:31,800
but it was clearing off we did still

1348
00:58:39,010 --> 00:58:35,460
have some clouds but not really bad

1349
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:39,020
we my father was sick that night

1350
00:58:44,569 --> 00:58:41,880
and we were trying to decide when we

1351
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:44,579
were going to go I wanted to sleep a

1352
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:46,380
little bit and then get up at like two

1353
00:58:50,210 --> 00:58:48,000
or three in the morning and go

1354
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,220
but he thought since he was sick it

1355
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:51,839
would be best to go

1356
00:58:56,569 --> 00:58:53,700
early in the night and then he could

1357
00:58:58,190 --> 00:58:56,579
sleep uninterrupted and hopefully feel

1358
00:59:00,109 --> 00:58:58,200
better

1359
00:59:02,690 --> 00:59:00,119
um so we headed out to candylands

1360
00:59:05,569 --> 00:59:02,700
probably between 9 30 and 10.

1361
00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:05,579
I know we got there before the moon was

1362
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:08,660
down I had set up my camera beforehand

1363
00:59:15,049 --> 00:59:12,960
and all the settings that I needed for

1364
00:59:17,089 --> 00:59:15,059
uh some Milky Way photos I had the

1365
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,099
camera on a tripod Etc

1366
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:19,680
so we got there and we we just drove

1367
00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:20,880
into the park we were going to look for

1368
00:59:25,849 --> 00:59:23,880
a you know a good place to set up where

1369
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:25,859
hopefully we wouldn't have

1370
00:59:30,589 --> 00:59:29,220
any cars or anyone around so we ended up

1371
00:59:33,970 --> 00:59:30,599
driving into

1372
00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:33,980
Shaffer Canyon Overlook which is uh

1373
00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:37,260
quite a nice Overlook there towards the

1374
00:59:41,089 --> 00:59:39,119
east

1375
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:41,099
as the moon was setting to the West

1376
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:42,960
behind me

1377
00:59:48,109 --> 00:59:45,839
if I remember correctly so I was set up

1378
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:48,119
I had the tripod pulled out and

1379
00:59:52,190 --> 00:59:50,400
uh has just had just practiced taking a

1380
00:59:53,230 --> 00:59:52,200
couple shots as I waited for the moon to

1381
00:59:55,250 --> 00:59:53,240
go down

1382
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:55,260
shortly after the moon went down

1383
00:59:59,690 --> 00:59:57,119
actually before I was really taking any

1384
01:00:01,809 --> 00:59:59,700
photos I noticed um

1385
01:00:05,210 --> 01:00:01,819
you're coming from kind of the southeast

1386
01:00:06,589 --> 01:00:05,220
a streak in the sky and I didn't think

1387
01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:06,599
much of it thought it was probably a

1388
01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:10,260
shooting star or you know meteor and I

1389
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:12,119
went back to getting ready to take some

1390
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,000
photos and I wasn't Within

1391
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:18,240
it was within a minute probably that I

1392
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:19,980
saw a streak in the same

1393
01:00:24,829 --> 01:00:23,760
general area in the sky so I stopped and

1394
01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:24,839
I looked

1395
01:00:28,609 --> 01:00:27,660
and I noticed uh three lights which I

1396
01:00:29,809 --> 01:00:28,619
thought looked like they were in

1397
01:00:31,789 --> 01:00:29,819
formation

1398
01:00:33,829 --> 01:00:31,799
and I thought wow that's a UFO so I ran

1399
01:00:36,589 --> 01:00:33,839
over to my dad he was sitting in

1400
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,599
sitting in the car because again he

1401
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:37,920
didn't feel well

1402
01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:40,200
and I said Hey Dad I think we got a UFO

1403
01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:42,000
and he said yeah I've been watching it

1404
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:43,680
he said it uh

1405
01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:46,200
it came over

1406
01:00:52,430 --> 01:00:49,700
um this kind of like Cliff or Hill there

1407
01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:52,440
and and move slowly

1408
01:00:57,530 --> 01:00:54,900
and then a couple times it streaked um

1409
01:01:00,370 --> 01:00:57,540
into a position where it was probably

1410
01:01:04,430 --> 01:01:00,380
uh you know degree Wise from us probably

1411
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:04,440
75 degrees in the sky there

1412
01:01:10,430 --> 01:01:07,440
so we watched it and it uh moved a

1413
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:10,440
little closer and slowly in

1414
01:01:16,849 --> 01:01:13,859
and uh again at that point I thought it

1415
01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,859
was three different objects

1416
01:01:20,569 --> 01:01:19,140
so we watched a little bit and it uh it

1417
01:01:21,890 --> 01:01:20,579
moved around and made some incredible

1418
01:01:22,670 --> 01:01:21,900
movements

1419
01:01:25,069 --> 01:01:22,680
um

1420
01:01:26,270 --> 01:01:25,079
you know streaking through the sky it

1421
01:01:27,650 --> 01:01:26,280
was completely silent

1422
01:01:29,630 --> 01:01:27,660
[Music]

1423
01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:29,640
it looked like it moved back and then

1424
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:31,260
back kind of close to where it was

1425
01:01:35,569 --> 01:01:33,359
before a couple of times

1426
01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:35,579
and uh really interesting

1427
01:01:38,510 --> 01:01:36,180
um

1428
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:38,520
directly due east there was a white

1429
01:01:43,609 --> 01:01:41,520
light very bright white light in the sky

1430
01:01:46,010 --> 01:01:43,619
and I was talking to my dad and he said

1431
01:01:47,089 --> 01:01:46,020
he had seen that almost since we had

1432
01:01:49,130 --> 01:01:47,099
been there

1433
01:01:51,890 --> 01:01:49,140
and at times he thought it was maybe

1434
01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:51,900
someone with a flashlight

1435
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:53,460
maybe someone with a real bright light

1436
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:54,900
but he watched it for a while and was

1437
01:02:00,049 --> 01:01:58,319
making really erratic movements and uh

1438
01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:00,059
he said he actually watched it for for

1439
01:02:04,430 --> 01:02:01,440
quite some time didn't know what it was

1440
01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:04,440
uh so we you know I saw that UFO off to

1441
01:02:07,630 --> 01:02:06,180
the side to the East and then we had the

1442
01:02:09,770 --> 01:02:07,640
one that had come from the southeast

1443
01:02:13,309 --> 01:02:09,780
they each had like different color

1444
01:02:16,609 --> 01:02:13,319
lights the one that had kind of done

1445
01:02:17,690 --> 01:02:16,619
streaks in had whitish blue lights again

1446
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:17,700
at this time I thought it was three

1447
01:02:21,770 --> 01:02:19,920
different objects then the one that was

1448
01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:21,780
the bright light to the east was just

1449
01:02:26,150 --> 01:02:24,420
looked like one bright white light

1450
01:02:27,950 --> 01:02:26,160
and it moved very radically throughout

1451
01:02:29,329 --> 01:02:27,960
the canyon so it looked like a ping pong

1452
01:02:30,829 --> 01:02:29,339
ball it was moving so fast and

1453
01:02:32,329 --> 01:02:30,839
erratically down and in and out of the

1454
01:02:33,890 --> 01:02:32,339
Canyons

1455
01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:33,900
um just fascinating we had no idea what

1456
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,000
that what that was it was about this

1457
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:39,119
time that I noticed three red lights

1458
01:02:43,010 --> 01:02:40,799
and they were kind of in the East too

1459
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:43,020
and they were again looked like

1460
01:02:47,690 --> 01:02:45,599
something in formation and that's that's

1461
01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:47,700
what I thought it was that they were in

1462
01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:50,700
formation at one point

1463
01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:53,040
they look like they did a pivot and

1464
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,720
plunged towards the ground which it

1465
01:02:58,730 --> 01:02:56,880
really caught my my breath because I

1466
01:03:00,049 --> 01:02:58,740
thought wow it's that's gonna explode

1467
01:03:02,510 --> 01:03:00,059
into the ground

1468
01:03:04,430 --> 01:03:02,520
and they just disappear there's no no

1469
01:03:07,370 --> 01:03:04,440
sound nothing happened no explosion and

1470
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:07,380
they were gone uh they would reappear

1471
01:03:11,030 --> 01:03:09,420
uh and you know within a few minutes and

1472
01:03:12,349 --> 01:03:11,040
I saw that one again

1473
01:03:13,609 --> 01:03:12,359
so

1474
01:03:16,130 --> 01:03:13,619
um you know at times there were three

1475
01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:16,140
different UFOs in the sky at one time

1476
01:03:20,450 --> 01:03:18,839
that we that we were able to see

1477
01:03:22,430 --> 01:03:20,460
I remembered I had a small pair of

1478
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,440
binoculars and I I got those out of the

1479
01:03:25,849 --> 01:03:24,000
car and I put it on

1480
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,859
put those binoculars on the first one

1481
01:03:28,910 --> 01:03:27,359
that had come in which it had stayed

1482
01:03:32,569 --> 01:03:28,920
pretty much in the same spot you know

1483
01:03:33,589 --> 01:03:32,579
with besides moving back and forth a few

1484
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:33,599
times

1485
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:35,460
and it was then I realized that it

1486
01:03:39,890 --> 01:03:36,780
wasn't three different crap but it was

1487
01:03:41,569 --> 01:03:39,900
one triangular craft it was a black

1488
01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:41,579
triangle with the white bluish lights on

1489
01:03:44,270 --> 01:03:42,660
it

1490
01:03:46,490 --> 01:03:44,280
so I gave my dad the binoculars and we

1491
01:03:48,170 --> 01:03:46,500
both took a couple turns looking at it

1492
01:03:49,970 --> 01:03:48,180
and just an amazing

1493
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:49,980
site through the binoculars

1494
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:52,980
uh I also put the binoculars on the one

1495
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:55,319
that was towards the east uh the white

1496
01:03:59,870 --> 01:03:57,359
the bright light the bright white one

1497
01:04:02,089 --> 01:03:59,880
and I noticed when I had binoculars on

1498
01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:02,099
it it was also a triangle the white

1499
01:04:06,170 --> 01:04:04,319
light was so bright actually three

1500
01:04:08,690 --> 01:04:06,180
lights were so bright it looked like one

1501
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:08,700
bright light but it was also a triangle

1502
01:04:13,069 --> 01:04:10,319
and it was the one that was bouncing

1503
01:04:14,630 --> 01:04:13,079
around within the Canyons

1504
01:04:17,030 --> 01:04:14,640
um I found the one with the red lights

1505
01:04:19,250 --> 01:04:17,040
on the corners and again another

1506
01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,260
triangle

1507
01:04:24,829 --> 01:04:22,079
um this this uh this Encounter of this

1508
01:04:27,770 --> 01:04:24,839
these uh triangles were there for

1509
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:27,780
for two hours the the time we were there

1510
01:04:31,370 --> 01:04:29,880
um during that time I had taken an

1511
01:04:32,930 --> 01:04:31,380
online class so I was really determined

1512
01:04:34,630 --> 01:04:32,940
to try to get some nice Sky photography

1513
01:04:37,130 --> 01:04:34,640
which I was able to do

1514
01:04:39,710 --> 01:04:37,140
unfortunately I was only able to get

1515
01:04:43,130 --> 01:04:39,720
some photographs of the white one

1516
01:04:44,390 --> 01:04:43,140
as it was silhouetted on the LaSalle

1517
01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:44,400
mountains which were due east from

1518
01:04:50,329 --> 01:04:47,160
candylands but we did observe those

1519
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:50,339
those uh triangles for for within those

1520
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:51,440
two hours

1521
01:04:56,990 --> 01:04:54,180
I saw a lot of weird erratic movements

1522
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:57,000
from them they were able to streak what

1523
01:05:02,030 --> 01:05:00,240
looked like miles across the sky in a

1524
01:05:02,630 --> 01:05:02,040
fraction or a second

1525
01:05:04,430 --> 01:05:02,640
um

1526
01:05:05,930 --> 01:05:04,440
they would even look like they

1527
01:05:08,510 --> 01:05:05,940
disappeared and would appear in another

1528
01:05:10,609 --> 01:05:08,520
area sometimes it looked like a just big

1529
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:10,619
streak of light and they'd appear you

1530
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:12,660
know at the end of that streak

1531
01:05:18,049 --> 01:05:15,839
I never saw a center light my dad did

1532
01:05:19,190 --> 01:05:18,059
notice with the one white one that was

1533
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:19,200
really bright

1534
01:05:22,549 --> 01:05:21,180
that it pivoted what looked to be

1535
01:05:24,890 --> 01:05:22,559
vertical

1536
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:24,900
and it turned and he saw a white light

1537
01:05:29,210 --> 01:05:27,599
in the center fire on and it looked like

1538
01:05:31,849 --> 01:05:29,220
when that light came on it propelled

1539
01:05:33,710 --> 01:05:31,859
itself across the sky so I did not see

1540
01:05:35,450 --> 01:05:33,720
that but he did and I thought that was a

1541
01:05:37,190 --> 01:05:35,460
very interesting

1542
01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:37,200
uh observation I would have liked to

1543
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:39,119
have seen it but um

1544
01:05:43,190 --> 01:05:41,700
I continue to watch them the white the

1545
01:05:45,349 --> 01:05:43,200
one with the bluish white lights and the

1546
01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:45,359
one with red lights interacted for a

1547
01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:46,920
while the white one had pulled back

1548
01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:49,140
again and I noticed they look like they

1549
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:50,579
were kind of rotating around each other

1550
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:52,799
I'm not sure what they were doing kind

1551
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,740
of like orbiting each other or just you

1552
01:05:59,630 --> 01:05:57,839
know flying around each other that

1553
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,640
lasted a little bit we observed that

1554
01:06:02,990 --> 01:06:01,200
with binoculars

1555
01:06:04,730 --> 01:06:03,000
I did again try to take a couple

1556
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:04,740
pictures those just did not turn out I

1557
01:06:08,210 --> 01:06:06,480
didn't see anything of the other craft

1558
01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:08,220
the only one I saw any pictures of was

1559
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:09,480
the one that was with white bright

1560
01:06:13,250 --> 01:06:10,680
lights

1561
01:06:16,730 --> 01:06:13,260
so again you know the I didn't really

1562
01:06:17,930 --> 01:06:16,740
feel any fear uh it was more this is

1563
01:06:20,210 --> 01:06:17,940
amazing

1564
01:06:22,130 --> 01:06:20,220
um they did kind of circle felt like we

1565
01:06:23,390 --> 01:06:22,140
were being surrounded at one time and I

1566
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:23,400
felt a little

1567
01:06:26,329 --> 01:06:24,780
you know a little apprehension there I

1568
01:06:27,529 --> 01:06:26,339
was like wow we're completely surrounded

1569
01:06:29,329 --> 01:06:27,539
but I knew

1570
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:29,339
at any point you know with the

1571
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:30,839
sophistication of what we were seeing

1572
01:06:35,210 --> 01:06:32,099
that they could do anything they wanted

1573
01:06:37,430 --> 01:06:35,220
again my father was sick so around

1574
01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:37,440
midnight maybe a little after we decided

1575
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:39,599
to go ahead and wrap things up and and

1576
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:42,720
go the craft were still there they were

1577
01:06:46,670 --> 01:06:44,400
still maneuvering through the canyons

1578
01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:46,680
and up in the air I'm not sure what they

1579
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:49,920
were doing I speculate uh that they were

1580
01:06:54,589 --> 01:06:53,039
mapping or doing a reconnaissance of the

1581
01:06:56,210 --> 01:06:54,599
area

1582
01:06:57,730 --> 01:06:56,220
um I was in military intelligence that

1583
01:07:00,109 --> 01:06:57,740
just looked like they were really

1584
01:07:02,569 --> 01:07:00,119
gathering information of the terrain

1585
01:07:05,450 --> 01:07:02,579
which the white one was again was in and

1586
01:07:06,950 --> 01:07:05,460
out of the Canyons and all over so I

1587
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:06,960
don't know if it was mapping the only

1588
01:07:09,710 --> 01:07:08,280
two things that could come to mind for

1589
01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,720
me is they were mapping or doing a

1590
01:07:13,309 --> 01:07:11,520
reconnaissance or they were looking for

1591
01:07:15,890 --> 01:07:13,319
something so I'm not sure what they were

1592
01:07:18,529 --> 01:07:15,900
doing we left we started driving down

1593
01:07:21,410 --> 01:07:18,539
from Canyonlands coming off the The

1594
01:07:23,569 --> 01:07:21,420
Ridges there and I do remember you know

1595
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:23,579
talking to my dad I was like I you know

1596
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:24,900
I just was looking I wanted to make sure

1597
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:27,119
we didn't have any lost time which you

1598
01:07:31,549 --> 01:07:28,799
know I don't think we had any lost time

1599
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:31,559
at all just an incredible encounter

1600
01:07:36,829 --> 01:07:34,319
with uh three of three UFOs that lasted

1601
01:07:38,150 --> 01:07:36,839
uh you know at least two hours there

1602
01:07:40,670 --> 01:07:38,160
almost two hours

1603
01:07:42,589 --> 01:07:40,680
but it's something I'll never forget

1604
01:07:45,710 --> 01:07:42,599
I reached a couple of things I reached

1605
01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:45,720
out to an author Dave marlar who has

1606
01:07:50,150 --> 01:07:48,059
written a book about triangles which if

1607
01:07:52,609 --> 01:07:50,160
you read the book they've been cited for

1608
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:52,619
many many years not just since the 70s

1609
01:07:59,569 --> 01:07:55,920
but going back through time I also was

1610
01:08:03,170 --> 01:07:59,579
in an episode of unidentified they did

1611
01:08:05,569 --> 01:08:03,180
an episode on black triangles I stayed

1612
01:08:07,309 --> 01:08:05,579
Anonymous there I was just uh was

1613
01:08:08,750 --> 01:08:07,319
apprehensive about you know putting my

1614
01:08:10,370 --> 01:08:08,760
name out there but now I you know I

1615
01:08:13,250 --> 01:08:10,380
realized it's you know it's nothing

1616
01:08:14,809 --> 01:08:13,260
nothing to to hide from you know as far

1617
01:08:16,130 --> 01:08:14,819
as my name I don't mind that people know

1618
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:16,140
and I'm more than happy to answer

1619
01:08:20,269 --> 01:08:17,759
questions than anybody

1620
01:08:22,749 --> 01:08:20,279
would have but that was interesting

1621
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:22,759
being on that episode of unidentified

1622
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:24,960
they did a really good job but there are

1623
01:08:27,530 --> 01:08:26,279
some things they left out some things

1624
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:27,540
they kind of twisted around I guess

1625
01:08:32,090 --> 01:08:29,460
probably to to try to make it a more

1626
01:08:34,550 --> 01:08:32,100
interesting story but um yeah it's uh

1627
01:08:37,189 --> 01:08:34,560
season two and it's uh you know the one

1628
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:37,199
on black triangles thank you for your

1629
01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:38,370
time bye

1630
01:08:45,769 --> 01:08:44,809
hi I'm Lee I live in Manchester in the

1631
01:08:49,370 --> 01:08:45,779
UK

1632
01:08:51,650 --> 01:08:49,380
and I'm 35 years old I was around eight

1633
01:08:54,050 --> 01:08:51,660
or nine at the time and I was traveling

1634
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:54,060
in a car from Blackpool to map back to

1635
01:08:57,829 --> 01:08:55,319
Manchester

1636
01:08:59,329 --> 01:08:57,839
in the car that was myself and my

1637
01:09:02,870 --> 01:08:59,339
brother who's two years younger than me

1638
01:09:05,570 --> 01:09:02,880
and my mum and my dad so we were driving

1639
01:09:08,329 --> 01:09:05,580
down a country a country road on the way

1640
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:08,339
home it was Pitch Black and we were the

1641
01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,600
only car on the road from what I

1642
01:09:12,890 --> 01:09:10,799
remember

1643
01:09:14,990 --> 01:09:12,900
the car we were driving in it was an old

1644
01:09:17,150 --> 01:09:15,000
black cell Astra and it had one of the

1645
01:09:19,490 --> 01:09:17,160
old sunroofs that I don't think they do

1646
01:09:21,890 --> 01:09:19,500
anymore and I just remember looking up

1647
01:09:24,110 --> 01:09:21,900
seeing this black triangle in the sky

1648
01:09:26,329 --> 01:09:24,120
and so I said to be mum

1649
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:26,339
look at that Mom what's that it's only

1650
01:09:30,590 --> 01:09:28,500
mum looked up she she said I don't know

1651
01:09:32,090 --> 01:09:30,600
I remember shaking my brother to wake

1652
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:32,100
him up because he was asleep at the time

1653
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:33,900
unfortunately I don't remember what my

1654
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:35,640
brother said because it was a long time

1655
01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:36,480
ago

1656
01:09:40,970 --> 01:09:38,580
I remember my dad asking what was what's

1657
01:09:43,249 --> 01:09:40,980
going on so everyone told him however he

1658
01:09:46,130 --> 01:09:43,259
couldn't really do much except carry on

1659
01:09:48,289 --> 01:09:46,140
driving so as we looked up we watched

1660
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:48,299
this object for around two minutes and

1661
01:09:54,410 --> 01:09:51,239
then it just disappeared no sound

1662
01:09:56,689 --> 01:09:54,420
no lights it was just gone

1663
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,699
it stuck with me ever since and I still

1664
01:10:01,010 --> 01:09:58,320
bring it up now to talk about with him

1665
01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,020
on and she she remembers it vividly as

1666
01:10:04,910 --> 01:10:03,120
well just a shame we have no recording

1667
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,920
equipment because about then it was just

1668
01:10:08,570 --> 01:10:06,960
the big camcorder things it would be we

1669
01:10:10,189 --> 01:10:08,580
had but we didn't really we didn't carry

1670
01:10:12,590 --> 01:10:10,199
it at the time

1671
01:10:14,990 --> 01:10:12,600
so that's a bit of a regret I don't

1672
01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:15,000
remember feeling scared or frightened I

1673
01:10:19,310 --> 01:10:17,460
just remember looking in amazement more

1674
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:19,320
than anything and ever since then I've

1675
01:10:24,290 --> 01:10:22,080
been interested in UFOs and uaps and

1676
01:10:26,810 --> 01:10:24,300
anything to do with space

1677
01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:26,820
and it's left me 100 convinced that

1678
01:10:29,630 --> 01:10:28,080
we're not alone

1679
01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:29,640
I want to get an opportunity to always

1680
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:31,800
look up to the sky to see if I can see

1681
01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:34,080
anything else and but unfortunately I've

1682
01:10:38,510 --> 01:10:36,719
not seen anything since thank you Ryan

1683
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:38,520
for giving the opportunity to tell my

1684
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,209
uh keep looking up

1685
01:10:52,370 --> 01:10:49,490
hi my name is Kyle

1686
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:52,380
and uh this is my sighting

1687
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,640
in 2003 I was living in the town of

1688
01:11:01,370 --> 01:10:58,560
Belvedere Illinois

1689
01:11:02,450 --> 01:11:01,380
and my brother and I were playing

1690
01:11:06,770 --> 01:11:02,460
um horse

1691
01:11:09,430 --> 01:11:06,780
in our driveway and we had a hoop that

1692
01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:09,440
was on our garage and it was facing west

1693
01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:12,300
and my brother had tossed the ball in

1694
01:11:17,870 --> 01:11:15,480
and bounced off the hoop and I go

1695
01:11:20,890 --> 01:11:17,880
to follow the hoop with my eyes as it

1696
01:11:24,470 --> 01:11:20,900
goes into the trees and I see this dark

1697
01:11:27,050 --> 01:11:24,480
charcoal colored triangular shape

1698
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:27,060
and it was probably

1699
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:30,780
2000 to 2500 feet in the air uh almost

1700
01:11:35,930 --> 01:11:33,780
almost directly above and to the front

1701
01:11:39,050 --> 01:11:35,940
or to the west of us

1702
01:11:41,390 --> 01:11:39,060
and it didn't have any like solid edges

1703
01:11:44,930 --> 01:11:41,400
it was all rounded on the sides

1704
01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:44,940
and the back and in the back in a

1705
01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:47,400
recessed section there were

1706
01:11:56,810 --> 01:11:51,620
uh two like Circle nozzles on each side

1707
01:11:59,510 --> 01:11:56,820
and a longer elongated oval in the

1708
01:12:02,330 --> 01:11:59,520
center but it was like recessed inside

1709
01:12:04,370 --> 01:12:02,340
of the that flat that edge of the

1710
01:12:06,890 --> 01:12:04,380
triangle

1711
01:12:09,950 --> 01:12:06,900
and I looked at my brother and I was

1712
01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:09,960
like well what's that at the time I was

1713
01:12:16,430 --> 01:12:12,179
really interested in you know our modern

1714
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:16,440
jets and uh mostly World War II aircraft

1715
01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:18,960
and I was like I I've never seen

1716
01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:21,600
anything like that and uh that weekend

1717
01:12:24,430 --> 01:12:22,980
we were supposed to go to our

1718
01:12:27,470 --> 01:12:24,440
grandparents house

1719
01:12:29,810 --> 01:12:27,480
and we did

1720
01:12:32,510 --> 01:12:29,820
and I we talked to my my

1721
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:32,520
step-grandfather about it and we spent

1722
01:12:35,689 --> 01:12:34,260
two hours on the internet trying to find

1723
01:12:37,250 --> 01:12:35,699
something that matched our description

1724
01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:37,260
and

1725
01:12:43,270 --> 01:12:39,480
we never found it

1726
01:12:45,950 --> 01:12:43,280
and shortly after that I started having

1727
01:12:46,790 --> 01:12:45,960
bouts of

1728
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:46,800
um

1729
01:12:51,649 --> 01:12:49,320
sleep paralysis I would wake up in the

1730
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,659
middle of the night and

1731
01:12:56,689 --> 01:12:53,760
I would be frozen

1732
01:12:57,830 --> 01:12:56,699
and I couldn't move my fingers or my

1733
01:13:01,790 --> 01:12:57,840
toes

1734
01:13:03,709 --> 01:13:01,800
and I couldn't scream and

1735
01:13:06,410 --> 01:13:03,719
it was

1736
01:13:07,750 --> 01:13:06,420
really hard and I didn't know what to do

1737
01:13:11,330 --> 01:13:07,760
about it

1738
01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:11,340
I continued having the sleep paralysis

1739
01:13:15,229 --> 01:13:13,440
for for years after that and I

1740
01:13:18,110 --> 01:13:15,239
eventually just

1741
01:13:20,870 --> 01:13:18,120
figured out that I had to relax and

1742
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:20,880
breathe and close my eyes and focus on

1743
01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:24,480
moving things that up to get my body

1744
01:13:33,350 --> 01:13:30,649
um shortly after

1745
01:13:36,169 --> 01:13:33,360
the first incident I was getting off the

1746
01:13:37,610 --> 01:13:36,179
bus with my friend Nick

1747
01:13:39,530 --> 01:13:37,620
and

1748
01:13:42,290 --> 01:13:39,540
as we got off the bus we saw these two

1749
01:13:45,410 --> 01:13:42,300
Jets Chase something that was smoldering

1750
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:45,420
in the air and we asked our

1751
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,820
reading teacher the next day who was a

1752
01:13:51,530 --> 01:13:50,159
Air Force reservist

1753
01:13:53,330 --> 01:13:51,540
and she said that she didn't know

1754
01:13:55,370 --> 01:13:53,340
anything about it she'd ask and we of

1755
01:13:57,729 --> 01:13:55,380
course never heard anything

1756
01:14:02,570 --> 01:13:57,739
but after that

1757
01:14:05,330 --> 01:14:02,580
I started having real Vivid lucid dreams

1758
01:14:08,390 --> 01:14:05,340
and uh that's something I still have to

1759
01:14:09,550 --> 01:14:08,400
this day I I don't correlate these

1760
01:14:13,850 --> 01:14:09,560
incidents

1761
01:14:16,550 --> 01:14:13,860
and put them together but it seems that

1762
01:14:20,870 --> 01:14:16,560
it's something that happens to people

1763
01:14:22,130 --> 01:14:20,880
who witness the dark triangles and yeah

1764
01:14:27,410 --> 01:14:22,140
that's

1765
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:29,570
hello my name's Michael

1766
01:14:34,910 --> 01:14:30,960
um I'm originally from the United

1767
01:14:38,450 --> 01:14:34,920
Kingdom from a place called Liverpool

1768
01:14:40,970 --> 01:14:38,460
um I migrated and I now live in Perth

1769
01:14:43,010 --> 01:14:40,980
Western Australia

1770
01:14:48,350 --> 01:14:45,830
I'd like to tell you what happened to me

1771
01:14:50,930 --> 01:14:48,360
and my girlfriends at the time who went

1772
01:14:51,950 --> 01:14:50,940
on to become my wife

1773
01:14:55,790 --> 01:14:51,960
um

1774
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:55,800
the events took place

1775
01:15:00,590 --> 01:14:57,440
in

1776
01:15:03,709 --> 01:15:00,600
1997 I actually know precisely when it

1777
01:15:07,310 --> 01:15:03,719
took place it was the 28th of March

1778
01:15:10,910 --> 01:15:07,320
and I'll tell you a bit more about that

1779
01:15:13,070 --> 01:15:10,920
why I know the date a little bit later

1780
01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:16,189
what happened was we were in a car

1781
01:15:22,729 --> 01:15:19,440
traveling between

1782
01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:22,739
um Formby and Southport and West

1783
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:24,960
Lancashire in the United Kingdom

1784
01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,080
and we were on the way to a party

1785
01:15:34,010 --> 01:15:30,719
it was about

1786
01:15:37,610 --> 01:15:34,020
it was like early evening it was still

1787
01:15:41,689 --> 01:15:37,620
light but it was starting to

1788
01:15:43,729 --> 01:15:41,699
um go dark and we were quite excited we

1789
01:15:45,410 --> 01:15:43,739
hadn't been drinking or anything we were

1790
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:45,420
just on the way to the party because we

1791
01:15:47,570 --> 01:15:46,920
were driving

1792
01:15:48,110 --> 01:15:47,580
[Applause]

1793
01:15:49,689 --> 01:15:48,120
um

1794
01:15:53,390 --> 01:15:49,699
and

1795
01:15:56,090 --> 01:15:53,400
we run like quite uh it's quite a rural

1796
01:16:00,950 --> 01:15:56,100
road it's because it's on the coast and

1797
01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:00,960
southport's like a sea Seaside town and

1798
01:16:05,090 --> 01:16:04,080
as we're driving I was listening to the

1799
01:16:08,510 --> 01:16:05,100
radio

1800
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:08,520
and it mentioned that Hal's Bob comet

1801
01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:11,040
would be visible in the northern

1802
01:16:17,890 --> 01:16:15,719
hemisphere skies and that night and I

1803
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:17,900
was intrigued by that

1804
01:16:25,850 --> 01:16:21,920
mostly because several days beforehand

1805
01:16:30,229 --> 01:16:25,860
and the cult members from the heavens

1806
01:16:32,810 --> 01:16:30,239
gate sect had committed suicide and for

1807
01:16:36,709 --> 01:16:32,820
those of you who

1808
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:36,719
remember or for those of you don't The

1809
01:16:43,610 --> 01:16:40,860
Story Goes that the cult members

1810
01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:43,620
committed suicide because they believed

1811
01:16:49,550 --> 01:16:45,360
that they were going to be transported

1812
01:16:52,669 --> 01:16:49,560
onto a UFO that was hidden in Hal's Bob

1813
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,679
Comet now I'm not making a judgment on

1814
01:16:58,070 --> 01:16:54,480
that I'm I'm just letting you know what

1815
01:17:00,649 --> 01:16:58,080
I saw anyway but I was intrigued by that

1816
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:00,659
anyway and that's the one of the reasons

1817
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:03,360
why I was interested to see whether I

1818
01:17:09,050 --> 01:17:06,000
could see this particular comet so as

1819
01:17:12,050 --> 01:17:09,060
we're driving I started looking out the

1820
01:17:14,090 --> 01:17:12,060
window and just to see if I could see

1821
01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:14,100
anything as we would drive and driving

1822
01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:15,420
past

1823
01:17:20,450 --> 01:17:17,100
and then

1824
01:17:22,130 --> 01:17:20,460
as with as my wife was driving I I was

1825
01:17:23,330 --> 01:17:22,140
in the passenger seat I noticed

1826
01:17:27,410 --> 01:17:23,340
something

1827
01:17:31,010 --> 01:17:27,420
out the side window and I could see

1828
01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:31,020
quite a large object in the sky kind of

1829
01:17:36,169 --> 01:17:33,960
coming into view so I couldn't quite

1830
01:17:38,209 --> 01:17:36,179
make it out so I asked my wife to pull

1831
01:17:40,729 --> 01:17:38,219
over so I could get a better look so we

1832
01:17:43,970 --> 01:17:40,739
pulled over at the side of the road

1833
01:17:45,890 --> 01:17:43,980
and literally it was it was quite

1834
01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,900
bizarre because I distinctly remember

1835
01:17:50,630 --> 01:17:47,280
looking

1836
01:17:53,390 --> 01:17:50,640
trying to make out what I can say and it

1837
01:17:55,370 --> 01:17:53,400
was quite an overcast day March days in

1838
01:17:57,169 --> 01:17:55,380
the UK can be quite wintry and it was

1839
01:18:00,830 --> 01:17:57,179
quite overcast so there was a lot of

1840
01:18:01,910 --> 01:18:00,840
cloud cover but the clouds just opened

1841
01:18:04,550 --> 01:18:01,920
up

1842
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:04,560
to reveal I couldn't see the whole

1843
01:18:14,689 --> 01:18:08,640
object I could only see one side of it

1844
01:18:17,689 --> 01:18:14,699
but it was just enormous I mean gigantic

1845
01:18:19,669 --> 01:18:17,699
uh like people have asked me to explain

1846
01:18:22,790 --> 01:18:19,679
how big

1847
01:18:25,370 --> 01:18:22,800
I I'm talking like half a mile to a mile

1848
01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:25,380
across I mean this thing was

1849
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:28,260
enormous and I couldn't see all of it

1850
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:29,280
because

1851
01:18:37,250 --> 01:18:34,080
some of it was still hidden in the cloud

1852
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:37,260
I did make a report of this many years

1853
01:18:43,729 --> 01:18:40,800
later to a UFO site and I've looked at

1854
01:18:46,450 --> 01:18:43,739
it and I I've I've mentioned on that

1855
01:18:50,330 --> 01:18:46,460
that it was a cigar-shaped

1856
01:18:53,390 --> 01:18:50,340
that's not a memory I have now I may

1857
01:18:55,189 --> 01:18:53,400
have thought one side of it was cigar

1858
01:18:58,070 --> 01:18:55,199
shape but I couldn't see the whole

1859
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,080
object anyway I couldn't I couldn't make

1860
01:19:02,930 --> 01:19:00,719
out any distinctive features off the

1861
01:19:05,990 --> 01:19:02,940
object I couldn't make out whether it

1862
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:06,000
was metal what it was made of

1863
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:10,159
it was gray in color very Bland looking

1864
01:19:16,790 --> 01:19:13,280
but what I certainly could see is

1865
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,800
three-dimensional structure and I could

1866
01:19:22,189 --> 01:19:19,440
see it was an object and it wasn't

1867
01:19:23,209 --> 01:19:22,199
moving and I remember looking and

1868
01:19:27,290 --> 01:19:23,219
thinking

1869
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:27,300
how is that object able to stay

1870
01:19:35,390 --> 01:19:31,920
perfectly still and not move my wife

1871
01:19:37,729 --> 01:19:35,400
was was seeing exactly the same as what

1872
01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:37,739
I was seeing so it wasn't like a

1873
01:19:43,130 --> 01:19:40,620
delusion or a mirage

1874
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:43,140
we were talking while we were while we

1875
01:19:48,830 --> 01:19:45,840
were looking at it how how high was it

1876
01:19:51,530 --> 01:19:48,840
it was quite High I'd say at least 10

1877
01:19:52,669 --> 01:19:51,540
000 feet maybe 15 000 feet it was right

1878
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:52,679
up there

1879
01:20:00,410 --> 01:19:56,400
but it was just Giant

1880
01:20:03,709 --> 01:20:00,420
the strange thing was that whilst we're

1881
01:20:06,370 --> 01:20:03,719
watching it we noticed that there was I

1882
01:20:09,770 --> 01:20:06,380
think there was three orbs like

1883
01:20:12,890 --> 01:20:09,780
light-colored small objects very bright

1884
01:20:16,910 --> 01:20:12,900
very intense colored I think one was

1885
01:20:21,649 --> 01:20:16,920
green one was red and one was yellow and

1886
01:20:23,810 --> 01:20:21,659
not 100 sure now on the colors

1887
01:20:27,470 --> 01:20:23,820
but they were

1888
01:20:30,410 --> 01:20:27,480
definitely kind of connected to the main

1889
01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:30,420
craft in the sense that they were

1890
01:20:35,030 --> 01:20:32,880
interacting with it and the the

1891
01:20:36,610 --> 01:20:35,040
interesting thing was

1892
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:36,620
they were

1893
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:39,840
basically daunting haphazardly Across

1894
01:20:46,250 --> 01:20:44,000
The Horizon the panoramic Horizon and

1895
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:46,260
the speed that they were moving

1896
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:49,440
literally one would go from one end of

1897
01:20:55,970 --> 01:20:52,560
The Horizon to the the other in a blink

1898
01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:55,980
of an eye and I remember thinking at the

1899
01:20:59,510 --> 01:20:56,940
time

1900
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:59,520
that's not physically possible to move

1901
01:21:04,189 --> 01:21:01,920
with that speed

1902
01:21:07,610 --> 01:21:04,199
it was almost like at the speed of light

1903
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:07,620
I mean it was just incredible speeds it

1904
01:21:13,189 --> 01:21:09,840
was just these things were just darting

1905
01:21:15,890 --> 01:21:13,199
around the main craft again they look

1906
01:21:20,689 --> 01:21:15,900
like solid objects they weren't lasers

1907
01:21:22,910 --> 01:21:20,699
it was difficult to kind of work out how

1908
01:21:25,550 --> 01:21:22,920
big they were they were quite small in

1909
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,560
comparison to the big craft

1910
01:21:30,530 --> 01:21:28,080
but that doesn't mean to say that they

1911
01:21:32,630 --> 01:21:30,540
were they were tiny either it was just

1912
01:21:35,930 --> 01:21:32,640
difficult to to work out they were

1913
01:21:38,570 --> 01:21:35,940
circular very all all black kind of

1914
01:21:42,590 --> 01:21:38,580
objects

1915
01:21:44,450 --> 01:21:42,600
we observed this that I was I'll be

1916
01:21:47,689 --> 01:21:44,460
honest with you I was freaking out I was

1917
01:21:49,610 --> 01:21:47,699
so excited my wife was getting my my

1918
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:49,620
girlfriend who went on to meet my wife

1919
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:52,560
was getting quite scared and she was

1920
01:21:56,209 --> 01:21:54,120
urging me to leave

1921
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:56,219
and because we were going to be late for

1922
01:21:59,990 --> 01:21:57,840
the party

1923
01:22:02,090 --> 01:22:00,000
I really didn't want to go but

1924
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:02,100
eventually after five or ten minutes of

1925
01:22:05,870 --> 01:22:03,840
watching this show

1926
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,880
I couldn't wait to get back into the car

1927
01:22:10,790 --> 01:22:07,679
because I wanted to get to the party and

1928
01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,800
tell everyone what was going on

1929
01:22:15,770 --> 01:22:12,960
we got back into the car we started

1930
01:22:19,610 --> 01:22:15,780
driving towards Southport

1931
01:22:21,770 --> 01:22:19,620
as we're driving it was probably five

1932
01:22:25,130 --> 01:22:21,780
ten minutes and it was starting to go

1933
01:22:30,169 --> 01:22:27,649
we were coming into the outskirts of

1934
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:30,179
Southport which is like a quite a small

1935
01:22:36,610 --> 01:22:32,820
town really

1936
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:36,620
um and we were hitting some busier roads

1937
01:22:42,729 --> 01:22:40,320
and all of a sudden

1938
01:22:47,410 --> 01:22:42,739
as we're talking about what we'd seen

1939
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:47,420
there was an enormous flash of

1940
01:22:54,830 --> 01:22:51,360
instantaneous Light Within the car

1941
01:22:57,770 --> 01:22:54,840
itself which basically blinded us

1942
01:23:00,169 --> 01:22:57,780
because it felt as if it came in either

1943
01:23:03,649 --> 01:23:00,179
through the sunroof or the the

1944
01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:03,659
windscreen it lasted about a second or

1945
01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:06,420
so my wife who was driving was

1946
01:23:10,430 --> 01:23:08,520
completely blinded and had to do an

1947
01:23:13,970 --> 01:23:10,440
emergency stop

1948
01:23:16,669 --> 01:23:13,980
but then as soon as it hit the car and

1949
01:23:20,270 --> 01:23:16,679
hit us the light was gone

1950
01:23:23,930 --> 01:23:20,280
it lasted like a second

1951
01:23:26,510 --> 01:23:23,940
and afterwards we I was just I just

1952
01:23:29,149 --> 01:23:26,520
looked at my wife and said

1953
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:29,159
did you did you just witness what I've

1954
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:30,719
just witnessed and she just based on

1955
01:23:38,330 --> 01:23:34,320
crying I mean it was the interesting

1956
01:23:39,970 --> 01:23:38,340
thing about what happened to us is these

1957
01:23:42,590 --> 01:23:39,980
are the two most

1958
01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:42,600
extraordinary things that have ever

1959
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:45,900
happened to me in my life

1960
01:23:51,169 --> 01:23:48,000
and they happened within a 10 minute

1961
01:23:53,290 --> 01:23:51,179
period I'm absolutely certain that

1962
01:23:57,310 --> 01:23:53,300
whatever came into the car it wasn't

1963
01:23:59,750 --> 01:23:57,320
like a faulty speed camera or whatever

1964
01:24:02,750 --> 01:23:59,760
and it wasn't

1965
01:24:06,649 --> 01:24:02,760
it wasn't like a laser

1966
01:24:08,330 --> 01:24:06,659
this thing took over the center that the

1967
01:24:11,689 --> 01:24:08,340
whole

1968
01:24:14,450 --> 01:24:11,699
car inside the car we couldn't see

1969
01:24:17,510 --> 01:24:14,460
anything we were absolutely blinded by

1970
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:17,520
the most intense white light I've ever

1971
01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:18,719
witnessed

1972
01:24:25,550 --> 01:24:21,780
and as I say after where after it had

1973
01:24:27,290 --> 01:24:25,560
finished it it was gone

1974
01:24:30,169 --> 01:24:27,300
my wife

1975
01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:30,179
I was so excited I wanted to get to the

1976
01:24:35,570 --> 01:24:32,280
party and tell everyone

1977
01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:35,580
my wife begged me not to talk about it

1978
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:37,260
because she thought it would be

1979
01:24:41,330 --> 01:24:38,880
ridiculed

1980
01:24:43,669 --> 01:24:41,340
because of the taboo nature of this

1981
01:24:45,470 --> 01:24:43,679
phenomenal phenomenon and for some

1982
01:24:48,649 --> 01:24:45,480
reason people are just not willing to

1983
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:48,659
accept that these things happen

1984
01:24:54,950 --> 01:24:52,080
this thing stayed with me I'm

1985
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:54,960
um my wife when we're no longer together

1986
01:25:00,830 --> 01:24:56,820
now unfortunately although we've got a

1987
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:00,840
good relationship for over 20 years what

1988
01:25:10,189 --> 01:25:05,280
30 years and it it's still strikes me as

1989
01:25:13,070 --> 01:25:10,199
the most bizarre episode in my life

1990
01:25:15,169 --> 01:25:13,080
and she won't talk about it I've tried

1991
01:25:16,490 --> 01:25:15,179
to get her to talk about it I think

1992
01:25:19,610 --> 01:25:16,500
because she doesn't quite understand

1993
01:25:22,430 --> 01:25:19,620
what happened she 'd rather not think

1994
01:25:25,790 --> 01:25:22,440
about it because it doesn't fit into the

1995
01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:25,800
way she wants the world to work what do

1996
01:25:28,729 --> 01:25:27,840
I think it was

1997
01:25:33,530 --> 01:25:28,739
um

1998
01:25:37,490 --> 01:25:33,540
I don't know I I don't think it was

1999
01:25:40,850 --> 01:25:37,500
um of this whale because I don't see how

2000
01:25:44,330 --> 01:25:40,860
anything that I saw we've got that sort

2001
01:25:46,130 --> 01:25:44,340
of technology and the speeds that I saw

2002
01:25:50,270 --> 01:25:46,140
on that day

2003
01:25:53,990 --> 01:25:50,280
and then what happened afterwards and

2004
01:25:57,050 --> 01:25:54,000
there was an element after that we both

2005
01:25:58,189 --> 01:25:57,060
said that we felt as if we'd been probed

2006
01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,199
and

2007
01:26:03,050 --> 01:26:00,780
we felt a little bit weird afterwards

2008
01:26:05,209 --> 01:26:03,060
there wasn't any time Distortion or

2009
01:26:07,370 --> 01:26:05,219
anything it was just the light came and

2010
01:26:10,850 --> 01:26:07,380
then it went

2011
01:26:13,189 --> 01:26:10,860
um I I tried to kind of scour and do

2012
01:26:16,550 --> 01:26:13,199
some research to see if anybody else had

2013
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:16,560
seen anything similar that night

2014
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:20,880
but I wasn't able to find any anything

2015
01:26:27,950 --> 01:26:23,600
um that recorded this particular event

2016
01:26:29,570 --> 01:26:27,960
as I say it took place on I believe I

2017
01:26:32,629 --> 01:26:29,580
think it was a Saturday night because we

2018
01:26:38,270 --> 01:26:32,639
were going to a party it's the 28th of

2019
01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:38,280
March 1997 the heavens gate uh cult

2020
01:26:43,930 --> 01:26:41,280
members had committed suicide I believe

2021
01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:43,940
a couple of days earlier

2022
01:26:49,370 --> 01:26:45,659
and

2023
01:26:52,970 --> 01:26:49,380
um it was at the time when Hal's Bob

2024
01:26:56,330 --> 01:26:52,980
um Comet was was still

2025
01:27:00,410 --> 01:26:56,340
um in in the area

2026
01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:00,420
um I hope you enjoyed the story and it

2027
01:27:07,310 --> 01:27:03,780
certainly changed my life it gave me a

2028
01:27:09,950 --> 01:27:07,320
fresh perspective on kind of what is

2029
01:27:12,770 --> 01:27:09,960
important in life I certainly am a

2030
01:27:16,729 --> 01:27:12,780
believer that we're not the only

2031
01:27:18,649 --> 01:27:16,739
um life force in this universe and

2032
01:27:20,030 --> 01:27:18,659
um thank you Ryan for giving me the

2033
01:27:22,430 --> 01:27:20,040
opportunity

2034
01:27:25,490 --> 01:27:22,440
to tell this story

2035
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:25,500
hey how's it going Ryan and uh somewhere

2036
01:27:32,870 --> 01:27:28,920
in the skies podcast uh my name is Roz

2037
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:32,880
and uh this is my story so it begins

2038
01:27:39,890 --> 01:27:36,719
when I was around 16 years old

2039
01:27:42,830 --> 01:27:39,900
and I was at a buddy's house of mine

2040
01:27:43,850 --> 01:27:42,840
and um we were we were just watching a

2041
01:27:45,950 --> 01:27:43,860
movie

2042
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:45,960
um in his living room it was it was

2043
01:27:49,850 --> 01:27:47,760
around nine o'clock at night

2044
01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:49,860
winter time so it was pretty cold out

2045
01:27:54,110 --> 01:27:52,380
and it had been dark for a while

2046
01:27:56,629 --> 01:27:54,120
and we were we were in his uh living

2047
01:27:59,930 --> 01:27:56,639
room watching a movie all the lights out

2048
01:28:02,990 --> 01:27:59,940
and um the way his living room is

2049
01:28:06,050 --> 01:28:03,000
oriented uh you have you know the couch

2050
01:28:08,270 --> 01:28:06,060
is facing the TV and then the TV has two

2051
01:28:11,090 --> 01:28:08,280
windows behind it so we were looking at

2052
01:28:14,270 --> 01:28:11,100
the TV along with facing these windows

2053
01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:14,280
and the windows had the blinds down so

2054
01:28:20,750 --> 01:28:17,580
we're sitting there and then a freaking

2055
01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:20,760
super bright light that was moving

2056
01:28:26,090 --> 01:28:22,560
um started to come through the windows

2057
01:28:27,950 --> 01:28:26,100
behind the TV with the blinds down

2058
01:28:31,070 --> 01:28:27,960
that's how bright it was so we were like

2059
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:31,080
you know what the heck is that

2060
01:28:37,790 --> 01:28:35,280
um and the where my friend lived he uh

2061
01:28:40,129 --> 01:28:37,800
it was pretty rural and he had a field

2062
01:28:43,310 --> 01:28:40,139
right behind his house so our first

2063
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:43,320
thought was did a tractor turn on its

2064
01:28:47,870 --> 01:28:45,360
headlights or something and they're

2065
01:28:49,250 --> 01:28:47,880
coming through into the uh the living

2066
01:28:52,490 --> 01:28:49,260
room

2067
01:28:55,129 --> 01:28:52,500
but we got up you know this this took

2068
01:28:57,229 --> 01:28:55,139
place within seconds and um

2069
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:57,239
so we immediately popped up and and went

2070
01:29:03,229 --> 01:28:58,800
out his back door to go check out what

2071
01:29:06,350 --> 01:29:03,239
it was and uh in the sky around I want

2072
01:29:07,490 --> 01:29:06,360
to say two football fields away is a

2073
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:07,500
fireball

2074
01:29:12,290 --> 01:29:09,900
it is I I always said it was it was

2075
01:29:16,129 --> 01:29:12,300
around the size of an SUV

2076
01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:16,139
and this Fireball it almost looked like

2077
01:29:22,070 --> 01:29:19,260
your cliche picture of the sun just

2078
01:29:24,410 --> 01:29:22,080
shrink down to the size of a minivan and

2079
01:29:28,070 --> 01:29:24,420
uh it was so close it was actually

2080
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,080
unbelievable and it was moving slowly

2081
01:29:34,010 --> 01:29:30,420
across the sky not doing anything just

2082
01:29:36,649 --> 01:29:34,020
moving uh and we we went to us we went

2083
01:29:38,510 --> 01:29:36,659
to school with uh a friend of ours who

2084
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:38,520
lived down the street from my buddy and

2085
01:29:42,290 --> 01:29:40,560
we immediately called her up because it

2086
01:29:44,810 --> 01:29:42,300
was actually heading right in the

2087
01:29:46,729 --> 01:29:44,820
direction of her house so we called her

2088
01:29:48,350 --> 01:29:46,739
and uh we told her you know you got to

2089
01:29:52,129 --> 01:29:48,360
go outside and look what's coming over

2090
01:29:53,870 --> 01:29:52,139
your house right now and as she uh as

2091
01:29:56,810 --> 01:29:53,880
she was about to go outside

2092
01:30:00,229 --> 01:29:56,820
the best way I can describe it the the

2093
01:30:02,209 --> 01:30:00,239
fireball collapsed in on itself

2094
01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:02,219
um and was gone

2095
01:30:06,169 --> 01:30:02,880
um

2096
01:30:07,129 --> 01:30:06,179
so yeah that that is that is the the

2097
01:30:08,090 --> 01:30:07,139
story

2098
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:08,100
um

2099
01:30:14,030 --> 01:30:11,520
and I know you wanted to uh wanted me to

2100
01:30:17,090 --> 01:30:14,040
include how it made me feel and I think

2101
01:30:19,490 --> 01:30:17,100
the best way I can describe it is it

2102
01:30:21,169 --> 01:30:19,500
made me pretty excited like I said this

2103
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,179
happened when I was around 16 so it was

2104
01:30:25,910 --> 01:30:23,760
definitely the event that pushed me into

2105
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:25,920
getting super interested in the whole in

2106
01:30:31,610 --> 01:30:28,800
the whole UFO subject and uh yeah it

2107
01:30:34,550 --> 01:30:31,620
made me it made me pretty happy because

2108
01:30:36,709 --> 01:30:34,560
I love UFO so much and I'm lucky to be

2109
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:36,719
able to have a story of my own so that

2110
01:30:40,370 --> 01:30:38,400
is that is everything thank you Ryan

2111
01:30:43,510 --> 01:30:40,380
thank you uh somewhere in this guy's

2112
01:30:48,229 --> 01:30:46,610
hi Ryan this is Sean and my oldest

2113
01:30:51,229 --> 01:30:48,239
daughter

2114
01:30:54,709 --> 01:30:51,239
who's 11 years old uh we're from Calgary

2115
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:54,719
Alberta Canada and on August 8th of this

2116
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:58,560
year we were camping and we're in Rocky

2117
01:31:01,970 --> 01:30:59,760
Mountain House which is a couple hours

2118
01:31:04,610 --> 01:31:01,980
north of us and we're heading north

2119
01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:04,620
towards our campsite uh when my daughter

2120
01:31:09,470 --> 01:31:05,760
saw

2121
01:31:11,689 --> 01:31:09,480
uh what she thought was an airplane but

2122
01:31:17,450 --> 01:31:11,699
she said it looked weird so she yelled

2123
01:31:24,890 --> 01:31:19,790
is windshield to where is pretty much

2124
01:31:26,750 --> 01:31:24,900
directly uh beside me and so I looked at

2125
01:31:29,990 --> 01:31:26,760
it and sure enough I could see it and it

2126
01:31:32,209 --> 01:31:30,000
was about 3 000 feet above us

2127
01:31:33,050 --> 01:31:32,219
um and it was uh about the size of an

2128
01:31:35,510 --> 01:31:33,060
airplane

2129
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:35,520
easily but it was going really really

2130
01:31:39,110 --> 01:31:37,199
fast and I was shocked I just didn't

2131
01:31:41,209 --> 01:31:39,120
know what to do there was no one else on

2132
01:31:43,310 --> 01:31:41,219
the road it was it was unbelievable I

2133
01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:43,320
had never seen anything like it I was

2134
01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:45,840
completely white it looked exactly like

2135
01:31:49,550 --> 01:31:47,820
uh what you would think a double-sided

2136
01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:49,560
egg would look like you know if it had

2137
01:31:53,330 --> 01:31:51,600
the thin end on both ends instead of

2138
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:53,340
like a Thin and Thick

2139
01:31:57,770 --> 01:31:56,040
um it was at about it was flying at a 30

2140
01:32:02,990 --> 01:31:57,780
degree angle kind of like almost like

2141
01:32:05,870 --> 01:32:03,000
belly up and it was moving hella fast

2142
01:32:08,810 --> 01:32:05,880
um and it kind of slowed down uh once we

2143
01:32:12,890 --> 01:32:08,820
saw it and it had a shimmery look to it

2144
01:32:16,370 --> 01:32:12,900
it almost kind of like it was blurry so

2145
01:32:19,129 --> 01:32:16,380
it was traveling directly west we went

2146
01:32:20,990 --> 01:32:19,139
uh I tried to find a spot to pull over I

2147
01:32:22,970 --> 01:32:21,000
asked my daughter to grab the binoculars

2148
01:32:25,370 --> 01:32:22,980
that were right beside her she went

2149
01:32:28,250 --> 01:32:25,380
reached over to grab them and she turned

2150
01:32:31,189 --> 01:32:28,260
back and she saw it drop a thousand feet

2151
01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:31,199
straight down and I found a spot to pull

2152
01:32:35,330 --> 01:32:33,960
over uh and I went to reach over to grab

2153
01:32:38,090 --> 01:32:35,340
my cell phone

2154
01:32:40,910 --> 01:32:38,100
but as I was grabbing myself when I was

2155
01:32:44,209 --> 01:32:40,920
looking left I I saw it actually do a

2156
01:32:45,890 --> 01:32:44,219
hard 90 straight North into a cloud and

2157
01:32:47,570 --> 01:32:45,900
then I grabbed my cell phone I was going

2158
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:47,580
to take a video now that we are parked

2159
01:32:53,810 --> 01:32:50,880
and we looked at it and we couldn't find

2160
01:32:56,870 --> 01:32:53,820
it anymore and my wife for whatever

2161
01:32:58,669 --> 01:32:56,880
reason her she just could not look up

2162
01:33:00,770 --> 01:32:58,679
she said she just had this some

2163
01:33:02,450 --> 01:33:00,780
compulsion to look straight down same

2164
01:33:05,090 --> 01:33:02,460
with my other daughter she just they

2165
01:33:07,310 --> 01:33:05,100
both just could not look at it for some

2166
01:33:10,010 --> 01:33:07,320
reason like Sarah said it was a plane

2167
01:33:12,169 --> 01:33:10,020
and uh she couldn't look up she couldn't

2168
01:33:14,330 --> 01:33:12,179
even look at it for some reason and now

2169
01:33:15,649 --> 01:33:14,340
every time we talk about it she's quite

2170
01:33:17,870 --> 01:33:15,659
uneasy

2171
01:33:20,270 --> 01:33:17,880
um and then Hannah yeah for same same

2172
01:33:22,610 --> 01:33:20,280
reason she just literally couldn't look

2173
01:33:24,770 --> 01:33:22,620
up for some reason so it was kind of

2174
01:33:28,370 --> 01:33:24,780
weird so Ava and I were the only ones

2175
01:33:30,649 --> 01:33:28,380
that got to see that particular egg so

2176
01:33:33,350 --> 01:33:30,659
then that was neat we were just shocked

2177
01:33:36,350 --> 01:33:33,360
couldn't believe we had seen that so

2178
01:33:38,810 --> 01:33:36,360
then we continued on to the campsite and

2179
01:33:40,610 --> 01:33:38,820
we got to the campsite and we told my

2180
01:33:43,370 --> 01:33:40,620
parents who were camping with us and

2181
01:33:46,010 --> 01:33:43,380
asked we started asking my mom about her

2182
01:33:51,050 --> 01:33:46,020
experience which was back in when she

2183
01:33:52,850 --> 01:33:51,060
was nine or ten and eight yeah yeah and

2184
01:33:55,970 --> 01:33:52,860
she had a close encounter of the Third

2185
01:33:58,729 --> 01:33:55,980
Kind and she said how The Way We Were

2186
01:34:01,790 --> 01:33:58,739
reacting was exactly how she reacted

2187
01:34:04,970 --> 01:34:01,800
when she was a a young child and then

2188
01:34:06,950 --> 01:34:04,980
even I decided to draw a picture

2189
01:34:09,169 --> 01:34:06,960
separately of what we saw and we drew

2190
01:34:11,090 --> 01:34:09,179
the same thing like a double-sided egg

2191
01:34:14,570 --> 01:34:11,100
almost like a Tic Tac but fat in the

2192
01:34:16,430 --> 01:34:14,580
middle and we even Drew I drew like

2193
01:34:18,590 --> 01:34:16,440
little squigglies around and so did she

2194
01:34:21,950 --> 01:34:18,600
so yeah that was our that's our story

2195
01:34:25,490 --> 01:34:21,960
and then as far as like feelings uh I've

2196
01:34:26,330 --> 01:34:25,500
had this obsessive like compulsion now

2197
01:34:29,030 --> 01:34:26,340
to

2198
01:34:31,550 --> 01:34:29,040
constantly look in the sky I've had

2199
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:31,560
another experience since then and Ava's

2200
01:34:37,550 --> 01:34:33,600
had how many have you had now

2201
01:34:39,229 --> 01:34:37,560
five experiences yeah since then my

2202
01:34:40,610 --> 01:34:39,239
recent one was when where I went out

2203
01:34:43,310 --> 01:34:40,620
hunting

2204
01:34:46,450 --> 01:34:43,320
um up by White Court in November uh

2205
01:34:49,790 --> 01:34:46,460
third week of November and we were

2206
01:34:52,010 --> 01:34:49,800
sleeping in a tent it was minus 20 and

2207
01:34:53,450 --> 01:34:52,020
we heard I everybody was asleep it was

2208
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:53,460
about two or three in the morning I woke

2209
01:34:58,850 --> 01:34:56,639
up and I've heard this what's what

2210
01:35:00,470 --> 01:34:58,860
sounded to me like a swooshing sound I

2211
01:35:03,410 --> 01:35:00,480
thought it was a plane but it's like a

2212
01:35:06,050 --> 01:35:03,420
swoosh instead like er the air was

2213
01:35:09,229 --> 01:35:06,060
swooshing and it came over top of the

2214
01:35:12,590 --> 01:35:09,239
the tent I could hear just stop above us

2215
01:35:15,410 --> 01:35:12,600
and then I fell asleep and then uh when

2216
01:35:17,209 --> 01:35:15,420
we woke up I remembered it but that's

2217
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:17,219
all I remembered and I asked everybody

2218
01:35:22,250 --> 01:35:19,260
normally everyone gets up to go pee in

2219
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:22,260
the middle of the night at uh okay uh

2220
01:35:27,110 --> 01:35:23,880
hunting because everyone's had a few

2221
01:35:28,729 --> 01:35:27,120
drinks and no one actually woke up that

2222
01:35:30,290 --> 01:35:28,739
night everyone said they slept the

2223
01:35:33,709 --> 01:35:30,300
greatest they've slept in a couple years

2224
01:35:36,050 --> 01:35:33,719
and it's been really weird it felt like

2225
01:35:39,050 --> 01:35:36,060
like these two experiences have made me

2226
01:35:41,270 --> 01:35:39,060
feel like it it's almost like watching

2227
01:35:43,070 --> 01:35:41,280
but uh I don't know how else to explain

2228
01:35:45,770 --> 01:35:43,080
it I don't know how you feel

2229
01:35:49,810 --> 01:35:45,780
I feel fine

2230
01:35:53,709 --> 01:35:49,820
it's weird because my dad's like was

2231
01:35:57,290 --> 01:35:53,719
scared and I was didn't feel anything

2232
01:35:59,930 --> 01:35:57,300
like I felt normal when they showed when

2233
01:36:03,229 --> 01:36:01,610
hi Ryan

2234
01:36:06,129 --> 01:36:03,239
um thank you very much for the

2235
01:36:09,950 --> 01:36:06,139
opportunity to be able to tell my story

2236
01:36:12,470 --> 01:36:09,960
my UFO sighting happened I think it was

2237
01:36:17,330 --> 01:36:12,480
like 1997.

2238
01:36:19,189 --> 01:36:17,340
I was a social worker working in a camp

2239
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:19,199
that was

2240
01:36:24,890 --> 01:36:21,600
for kids it was basically I mean it was

2241
01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:24,900
basically like a detention center but it

2242
01:36:30,410 --> 01:36:27,420
was out in the middle of the desert it

2243
01:36:32,930 --> 01:36:30,420
was in Alfreda Arizona which is very

2244
01:36:36,110 --> 01:36:32,940
close to the border of Mexico and really

2245
01:36:38,990 --> 01:36:36,120
just out in the middle of nowhere

2246
01:36:41,169 --> 01:36:39,000
um so the kids lived at the camp and the

2247
01:36:44,930 --> 01:36:41,179
staff lived at the camp

2248
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:44,940
and the way it was set up there was an

2249
01:36:52,129 --> 01:36:48,239
area where the kids stayed

2250
01:36:55,729 --> 01:36:52,139
and then there was like the

2251
01:36:58,490 --> 01:36:55,739
dorms or whatever where the staff lived

2252
01:36:59,750 --> 01:36:58,500
and there was a little path that went

2253
01:37:02,750 --> 01:36:59,760
from

2254
01:37:05,810 --> 01:37:02,760
uh the the staff housing to the area

2255
01:37:09,290 --> 01:37:05,820
where the kids lived and that path was

2256
01:37:11,570 --> 01:37:09,300
not lit it was pretty dark like I said

2257
01:37:12,649 --> 01:37:11,580
it was the desert but there was a little

2258
01:37:18,110 --> 01:37:12,659
path

2259
01:37:20,830 --> 01:37:18,120
that went between the two places so uh I

2260
01:37:24,290 --> 01:37:20,840
was walking with another staff member

2261
01:37:27,530 --> 01:37:24,300
along this path and I'm just telling you

2262
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:27,540
it it's really dark

2263
01:37:35,149 --> 01:37:32,639
um you can see every star in the sky

2264
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,159
um it's just I don't know I've never

2265
01:37:39,709 --> 01:37:38,159
I've it's never I've never lived in a

2266
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:39,719
place where the sky was really that

2267
01:37:44,270 --> 01:37:41,400
clear because it's the desert there's no

2268
01:37:47,810 --> 01:37:44,280
clouds and I live in Washington now so

2269
01:37:50,750 --> 01:37:47,820
there's always clouds but uh but it's

2270
01:37:52,310 --> 01:37:50,760
out in the middle of nowhere and the sky

2271
01:37:54,770 --> 01:37:52,320
is just really clear you can see all the

2272
01:37:56,930 --> 01:37:54,780
stars so I'm walking along with this

2273
01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,940
other staff member and we're talking I

2274
01:38:01,490 --> 01:37:58,320
have no idea what we were talking about

2275
01:38:04,610 --> 01:38:01,500
and then for whatever reason

2276
01:38:06,550 --> 01:38:04,620
um we stopped and we looked up and I

2277
01:38:10,370 --> 01:38:06,560
don't know why we did that but we did

2278
01:38:13,790 --> 01:38:10,380
and there were three lights in the sky

2279
01:38:15,950 --> 01:38:13,800
and they were very very far our way so

2280
01:38:19,310 --> 01:38:15,960
you know we could tell immediately that

2281
01:38:21,470 --> 01:38:19,320
it wasn't a it wasn't planes

2282
01:38:26,090 --> 01:38:21,480
um or a plane at the time I thought it

2283
01:38:27,470 --> 01:38:26,100
was one I thought it was one aircraft

2284
01:38:28,910 --> 01:38:27,480
um and that's where these lights were

2285
01:38:32,629 --> 01:38:28,920
coming from but

2286
01:38:35,330 --> 01:38:32,639
then they the the three lights moved

2287
01:38:37,970 --> 01:38:35,340
away from each other and so that was

2288
01:38:39,830 --> 01:38:37,980
very strange it was like wait a minute

2289
01:38:43,010 --> 01:38:39,840
and we were both looking at us we were

2290
01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:43,020
like what what is that because they

2291
01:38:46,910 --> 01:38:44,760
they moved away from each other so

2292
01:38:50,209 --> 01:38:46,920
unless it was like an aircraft that was

2293
01:38:53,149 --> 01:38:50,219
like stretching I don't know I don't

2294
01:38:55,010 --> 01:38:53,159
know of any aircraft that does that

2295
01:38:56,689 --> 01:38:55,020
um it just didn't make any sense so then

2296
01:38:59,810 --> 01:38:56,699
we knew at that point that we were

2297
01:39:03,530 --> 01:38:59,820
looking at three separate aircrafts or

2298
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:03,540
whatever we were seeing in the sky so at

2299
01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:04,800
this point we're just kind of standing

2300
01:39:09,229 --> 01:39:06,719
there and we're not really saying

2301
01:39:10,870 --> 01:39:09,239
anything and or at least I don't

2302
01:39:14,629 --> 01:39:10,880
remember that we were saying anything

2303
01:39:18,890 --> 01:39:14,639
and then all of a sudden

2304
01:39:23,270 --> 01:39:18,900
um the lights go back into a triangular

2305
01:39:27,709 --> 01:39:23,280
formation and they just take off across

2306
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:27,719
the sky and we're like okay and I I

2307
01:39:32,990 --> 01:39:29,520
don't remember

2308
01:39:35,870 --> 01:39:33,000
what we said I don't think we said like

2309
01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:35,880
I I just don't we didn't say anything of

2310
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:38,159
of significance I remember the feeling

2311
01:39:43,070 --> 01:39:40,320
that I had that was like

2312
01:39:44,810 --> 01:39:43,080
oh my goodness like what what did I just

2313
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:44,820
see it was like

2314
01:39:52,910 --> 01:39:49,199
it was like confusion basically and uh

2315
01:39:54,950 --> 01:39:52,920
we just started walking and back to we

2316
01:39:57,470 --> 01:39:54,960
were walking actually we we started

2317
01:39:59,090 --> 01:39:57,480
making our way towards the camp which

2318
01:40:00,770 --> 01:39:59,100
where the kids were which is where we

2319
01:40:04,490 --> 01:40:00,780
were going in the first place

2320
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:04,500
so as we came up to the clearing where

2321
01:40:10,189 --> 01:40:08,400
the kids were a few of the kids came

2322
01:40:13,669 --> 01:40:10,199
running up and I remember one of them

2323
01:40:16,310 --> 01:40:13,679
came and these are like teenagers

2324
01:40:19,189 --> 01:40:16,320
um and they're like teenagers from the

2325
01:40:21,830 --> 01:40:19,199
inner city kids that are there because

2326
01:40:24,110 --> 01:40:21,840
they had committed serious crimes some

2327
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:24,120
of them some of them very serious

2328
01:40:31,250 --> 01:40:27,600
and one of the kids came up and he was

2329
01:40:34,610 --> 01:40:31,260
like Miss D uh did you see that UFO

2330
01:40:36,890 --> 01:40:34,620
right I'm like yes and the other kids

2331
01:40:40,010 --> 01:40:36,900
were like did you see it did you see

2332
01:40:43,129 --> 01:40:40,020
that UFO across the sky and I'm like yes

2333
01:40:46,070 --> 01:40:43,139
and there was just like a feeling of a

2334
01:40:48,649 --> 01:40:46,080
little bit of excitement in the camp but

2335
01:40:51,649 --> 01:40:48,659
to be very honest

2336
01:40:54,350 --> 01:40:51,659
um it wasn't like what you would think

2337
01:40:57,770 --> 01:40:54,360
where people would just be like I don't

2338
01:41:00,649 --> 01:40:57,780
even know like freaking out about it uh

2339
01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:00,659
they really weren't it was it was like

2340
01:41:07,990 --> 01:41:04,320
this really subdued feeling of just like

2341
01:41:11,209 --> 01:41:08,000
wow like what did we just see and also

2342
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,219
you know no matter I I think what it is

2343
01:41:16,850 --> 01:41:13,679
is that you know no matter what we saw

2344
01:41:19,250 --> 01:41:16,860
we were still in this situation where

2345
01:41:22,129 --> 01:41:19,260
these kids were

2346
01:41:23,570 --> 01:41:22,139
um incarcerated and we were working with

2347
01:41:26,090 --> 01:41:23,580
them and it was a very difficult

2348
01:41:30,169 --> 01:41:26,100
situation and so there was this feeling

2349
01:41:32,689 --> 01:41:30,179
of like well we just saw a UFO in the

2350
01:41:36,290 --> 01:41:32,699
sky but it doesn't it doesn't really

2351
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:36,300
change our situation and so it's

2352
01:41:40,490 --> 01:41:38,159
interesting because you know one of the

2353
01:41:44,510 --> 01:41:40,500
questions that you ask is like

2354
01:41:48,890 --> 01:41:44,520
how did you feel about it and I have to

2355
01:41:52,129 --> 01:41:48,900
be honest and say like I I I really have

2356
01:41:53,930 --> 01:41:52,139
wanted to and been curious I I have

2357
01:41:56,030 --> 01:41:53,940
wanted my whole life

2358
01:41:58,790 --> 01:41:56,040
to see a UFO

2359
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:58,800
and I've always been curious about them

2360
01:42:06,169 --> 01:42:01,920
but in this moment when we had actually

2361
01:42:08,810 --> 01:42:06,179
seen one I I don't know how to describe

2362
01:42:10,189 --> 01:42:08,820
how I felt about it because it was

2363
01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:10,199
almost like

2364
01:42:19,790 --> 01:42:14,400
okay yeah like okay yeah there was like

2365
01:42:20,930 --> 01:42:19,800
a UFO in the sky and of course there was

2366
01:42:24,590 --> 01:42:20,940
and

2367
01:42:27,229 --> 01:42:24,600
wasn't anything like this

2368
01:42:30,109 --> 01:42:27,239
big amazement where we're all just like

2369
01:42:32,330 --> 01:42:30,119
freaking out all night over it it was

2370
01:42:34,430 --> 01:42:32,340
like it was like it was always supposed

2371
01:42:37,250 --> 01:42:34,440
to be there and we were supposed to see

2372
01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:37,260
it and now we just have to get back to

2373
01:42:40,970 --> 01:42:39,000
this difficult life that we were living

2374
01:42:44,330 --> 01:42:40,980
at that time

2375
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,340
um looking back at it now uh and just

2376
01:42:49,010 --> 01:42:46,080
thinking about the situation I was in

2377
01:42:51,410 --> 01:42:49,020
because I will just say that this camp

2378
01:42:54,050 --> 01:42:51,420
that I was working at was absolutely a

2379
01:42:56,270 --> 01:42:54,060
horrible place and

2380
01:42:59,450 --> 01:42:56,280
um there was a lot of abuse there there

2381
01:43:01,310 --> 01:42:59,460
was racism there it was a terrible

2382
01:43:03,530 --> 01:43:01,320
terrible situation and I believe that

2383
01:43:05,990 --> 01:43:03,540
they are not there anymore

2384
01:43:09,370 --> 01:43:06,000
um which is a good thing

2385
01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:09,380
um but it was such a bad situation

2386
01:43:15,410 --> 01:43:13,139
that there was always this feeling that

2387
01:43:17,090 --> 01:43:15,420
the staff or the people not the staff

2388
01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:17,100
not the regular staff but the people

2389
01:43:22,250 --> 01:43:19,260
that were running the place were

2390
01:43:25,189 --> 01:43:22,260
constantly trying to dehumanize the kids

2391
01:43:26,750 --> 01:43:25,199
I mean basically so that they they could

2392
01:43:31,370 --> 01:43:26,760
justify how they were being treated

2393
01:43:34,609 --> 01:43:31,380
there and my job was to advocate for

2394
01:43:37,729 --> 01:43:34,619
them which was a very very difficult job

2395
01:43:41,470 --> 01:43:37,739
so now looking back at it it just really

2396
01:43:45,410 --> 01:43:41,480
makes me feel their Humanity

2397
01:43:47,930 --> 01:43:45,420
even more than I did before because we

2398
01:43:50,030 --> 01:43:47,940
were all in the situation like we were

2399
01:43:52,010 --> 01:43:50,040
all we were all in this terrible

2400
01:43:54,050 --> 01:43:52,020
situation where there were there were

2401
01:43:56,870 --> 01:43:54,060
these very clear roles they were like

2402
01:44:01,129 --> 01:43:56,880
the kids who you know we were supposed

2403
01:44:02,930 --> 01:44:01,139
to control and you know their Humanity

2404
01:44:04,310 --> 01:44:02,940
was always being taken away and then

2405
01:44:07,070 --> 01:44:04,320
there was a staff

2406
01:44:09,890 --> 01:44:07,080
and they had like this real dominant

2407
01:44:12,129 --> 01:44:09,900
position over the kids but ultimately we

2408
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:12,139
were all human beings

2409
01:44:18,109 --> 01:44:15,360
and just looking back at it that's what

2410
01:44:19,729 --> 01:44:18,119
it reminds me of it reminds me of our

2411
01:44:23,090 --> 01:44:19,739
Humanity

2412
01:44:25,790 --> 01:44:23,100
that you know even though we were in

2413
01:44:28,129 --> 01:44:25,800
this this little universe together where

2414
01:44:31,850 --> 01:44:28,139
things were really awful and the roles

2415
01:44:34,970 --> 01:44:31,860
were really uh really unjust

2416
01:44:37,609 --> 01:44:34,980
we were still just little tiny humans on

2417
01:44:38,810 --> 01:44:37,619
the earth looking up in the sky and

2418
01:44:39,950 --> 01:44:38,820
seeing something that we didn't

2419
01:44:43,189 --> 01:44:39,960
understand

2420
01:44:46,370 --> 01:44:43,199
so that's how that's how I feel about it

2421
01:44:48,410 --> 01:44:46,380
now looking back

2422
01:44:51,010 --> 01:44:48,420
um thank you Ryan for giving me a chance

2423
01:44:53,870 --> 01:44:51,020
to tell my story and I love your podcast

2424
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:53,880
it makes me feel like I'm

2425
01:45:08,930 --> 01:44:56,210
less alone in this world

2426
01:45:13,910 --> 01:45:11,209
hello Ryan thank you for inviting me to

2427
01:45:15,530 --> 01:45:13,920
share my story my name is Ashley I'm 34

2428
01:45:16,850 --> 01:45:15,540
years old and I currently live in

2429
01:45:20,030 --> 01:45:16,860
Ontario Canada

2430
01:45:22,910 --> 01:45:20,040
when this event took place in 1997 I was

2431
01:45:26,209 --> 01:45:22,920
11 years old and I lived with my family

2432
01:45:27,890 --> 01:45:26,219
in Hamilton uh one night I went to the

2433
01:45:29,330 --> 01:45:27,900
corner store and as I stood at the

2434
01:45:31,850 --> 01:45:29,340
crosswalk waiting for the light to

2435
01:45:34,910 --> 01:45:31,860
change I looked up at the sky

2436
01:45:37,490 --> 01:45:34,920
I noticed that the sky was totally black

2437
01:45:40,490 --> 01:45:37,500
and that there weren't any stars

2438
01:45:43,070 --> 01:45:40,500
when I looked all the way up that's when

2439
01:45:45,890 --> 01:45:43,080
I saw these lights

2440
01:45:47,570 --> 01:45:45,900
that immediately registered as being

2441
01:45:49,850 --> 01:45:47,580
unnatural

2442
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:49,860
there were about five or six of them

2443
01:45:54,770 --> 01:45:52,080
they were stationary a little bit bigger

2444
01:45:58,669 --> 01:45:54,780
than Stars often color like a soft

2445
01:45:59,990 --> 01:45:58,679
orange and they formed a very large half

2446
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:00,000
circle

2447
01:46:07,129 --> 01:46:04,080
my best guess would be that I would be

2448
01:46:09,229 --> 01:46:07,139
able to place my adult hand between each

2449
01:46:12,590 --> 01:46:09,239
of these lights

2450
01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,600
I had no idea what it was all I knew was

2451
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:14,639
that the longer I looked at it the more

2452
01:46:19,310 --> 01:46:16,800
terrified I felt so I ran across the

2453
01:46:21,229 --> 01:46:19,320
street into the store and wandered

2454
01:46:24,830 --> 01:46:21,239
around until I felt comfortable enough

2455
01:46:26,510 --> 01:46:24,840
to leave I couldn't have been more than

2456
01:46:29,510 --> 01:46:26,520
five minutes

2457
01:46:31,609 --> 01:46:29,520
when I left and crossed the street I

2458
01:46:33,229 --> 01:46:31,619
made a point of stopping where I saw the

2459
01:46:34,970 --> 01:46:33,239
lights and looking up but the lights

2460
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:34,980
were gone

2461
01:46:40,490 --> 01:46:37,679
my mom doesn't ever recall talking to me

2462
01:46:42,290 --> 01:46:40,500
about it and I guess I just forgot about

2463
01:46:44,450 --> 01:46:42,300
it for a while

2464
01:46:47,330 --> 01:46:44,460
I'd always been into ghosts and the

2465
01:46:50,030 --> 01:46:47,340
Paranormal when I was a kid and any idea

2466
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:50,040
I had on UFOs at the time was based off

2467
01:46:54,950 --> 01:46:53,040
of the odd story in a book that I could

2468
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:54,960
take out from the school library or

2469
01:47:01,010 --> 01:46:57,840
Watching The X-Files with my parents

2470
01:47:02,870 --> 01:47:01,020
that's until the internet came along and

2471
01:47:05,810 --> 01:47:02,880
then I had even more access to

2472
01:47:10,669 --> 01:47:05,820
information to expand my interests

2473
01:47:13,490 --> 01:47:10,679
so one day in 2000 2001 I was bored and

2474
01:47:16,970 --> 01:47:13,500
started searching for UFO photos

2475
01:47:19,430 --> 01:47:16,980
and I found this website about the

2476
01:47:21,590 --> 01:47:19,440
famous Phoenix light sighting that took

2477
01:47:26,229 --> 01:47:21,600
place in 1997.

2478
01:47:31,550 --> 01:47:26,239
and when I got to the photos

2479
01:47:35,450 --> 01:47:31,560
I just remember getting jills because

2480
01:47:39,830 --> 01:47:35,460
those photographs showed the exact same

2481
01:47:41,750 --> 01:47:39,840
thing that I saw a few years prior

2482
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:41,760
and I remember just sitting there

2483
01:47:46,189 --> 01:47:43,440
thinking about it like

2484
01:47:49,070 --> 01:47:46,199
what are the odds that at 11 years old

2485
01:47:52,070 --> 01:47:49,080
with no knowledge that the event in

2486
01:47:54,470 --> 01:47:52,080
Phoenix took place what I experience the

2487
01:47:58,010 --> 01:47:54,480
same thing a couple of months later

2488
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:58,020
I have no doubts in my mind that I

2489
01:48:05,090 --> 01:48:00,000
witnessed to UFO that night

2490
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,270
hello Ryan Ron zlotnick here a loyal

2491
01:48:12,530 --> 01:48:10,320
patreon member and long time follower of

2492
01:48:14,450 --> 01:48:12,540
your work and I'm always inspired by the

2493
01:48:16,609 --> 01:48:14,460
standout investigative work that you do

2494
01:48:18,410 --> 01:48:16,619
as a strong voice in our community for

2495
01:48:20,270 --> 01:48:18,420
the rest of us who have not had the

2496
01:48:23,330 --> 01:48:20,280
opportunity to become a prominent figure

2497
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:23,340
in the UFO UAP community so thank you

2498
01:48:27,649 --> 01:48:24,960
very much for the role that you play on

2499
01:48:29,629 --> 01:48:27,659
all of our behalfs so I appreciate this

2500
01:48:31,609 --> 01:48:29,639
honor and privilege to lend my voice for

2501
01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:31,619
once to tell of my encounters and share

2502
01:48:36,350 --> 01:48:34,560
with you and the rest of our clan as an

2503
01:48:38,330 --> 01:48:36,360
introduction I'm originally from a

2504
01:48:40,609 --> 01:48:38,340
little town called Windsor Ontario

2505
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:40,619
Canada which is basically like a suburb

2506
01:48:45,649 --> 01:48:43,920
of Detroit Michigan USA I grew up in

2507
01:48:48,350 --> 01:48:45,659
this town until I moved to Michigan in

2508
01:48:50,030 --> 01:48:48,360
my 40s no nothing really big comes out

2509
01:48:52,189 --> 01:48:50,040
of Windsor and thus for making it a

2510
01:48:54,350 --> 01:48:52,199
little difficult to find a lot of UFO

2511
01:48:56,750 --> 01:48:54,360
reports from there however as you well

2512
01:48:58,370 --> 01:48:56,760
know UFOs don't really know political

2513
01:49:00,169 --> 01:48:58,380
boundaries nor do they care about

2514
01:49:02,149 --> 01:49:00,179
political boundaries

2515
01:49:04,669 --> 01:49:02,159
my first encounter was when I was

2516
01:49:06,590 --> 01:49:04,679
extremely young so this first account is

2517
01:49:09,470 --> 01:49:06,600
less detailed than my second account

2518
01:49:12,109 --> 01:49:09,480
will be however it was no less real to

2519
01:49:14,450 --> 01:49:12,119
me and I do have some memories of it

2520
01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:14,460
so Windsor being that small town I

2521
01:49:19,129 --> 01:49:17,100
mentioned is overshadowed by Detroit's

2522
01:49:21,590 --> 01:49:19,139
international airport so we have a lot

2523
01:49:22,430 --> 01:49:21,600
less air traffic on our local City's own

2524
01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:22,440
Airport

2525
01:49:27,770 --> 01:49:25,260
that being said one evening when the sun

2526
01:49:29,750 --> 01:49:27,780
was nearly down I must have been roughly

2527
01:49:32,330 --> 01:49:29,760
I don't know five or six years old yeah

2528
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:32,340
a long time ago and I recall a bit of

2529
01:49:35,570 --> 01:49:34,080
unrest around the neighborhood when a

2530
01:49:38,090 --> 01:49:35,580
lot of people are on the street looking

2531
01:49:40,430 --> 01:49:38,100
towards our local airport you could kind

2532
01:49:43,370 --> 01:49:40,440
of see the runway in that from there

2533
01:49:46,609 --> 01:49:43,380
uh and I recall that there was an

2534
01:49:48,410 --> 01:49:46,619
elongated oval yellowish metallic object

2535
01:49:50,810 --> 01:49:48,420
that seemed to be kind of hovering over

2536
01:49:53,689 --> 01:49:50,820
the runway around you know higher than

2537
01:49:55,850 --> 01:49:53,699
the air traffic controller Tower but not

2538
01:49:58,609 --> 01:49:55,860
too much higher

2539
01:50:02,090 --> 01:49:58,619
um probably about the size of a couple

2540
01:50:03,950 --> 01:50:02,100
of 747 jets end to end so it's

2541
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:03,960
definitely something that uh shouldn't

2542
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:06,719
be there doesn't belong there at this

2543
01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:08,639
point in my life you know there was no

2544
01:50:13,609 --> 01:50:11,520
internet or mufon or any easy way to

2545
01:50:16,129 --> 01:50:13,619
report it and a lot of the neighbors

2546
01:50:18,109 --> 01:50:16,139
were pointing and talking about it uh

2547
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:18,119
with some fear and worry

2548
01:50:23,629 --> 01:50:20,159
um and of course there was no quick snap

2549
01:50:25,310 --> 01:50:23,639
smartphones able to take pictures so we

2550
01:50:28,729 --> 01:50:25,320
were at a loss for any way of really

2551
01:50:30,530 --> 01:50:28,739
recording this very well but uh you know

2552
01:50:32,270 --> 01:50:30,540
it was just about people calling like

2553
01:50:33,790 --> 01:50:32,280
local news or someone at the airport

2554
01:50:36,649 --> 01:50:33,800
trying to get information

2555
01:50:38,570 --> 01:50:36,659
they said all they said was uh we're

2556
01:50:40,010 --> 01:50:38,580
looking into it but you could see this

2557
01:50:41,930 --> 01:50:40,020
thing was hovering in a way it was kind

2558
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:41,940
of preventing planes from like Landing

2559
01:50:47,149 --> 01:50:44,000
or taking off on that

2560
01:50:48,590 --> 01:50:47,159
my parents were there as well so my

2561
01:50:50,510 --> 01:50:48,600
father had you know ushered me into the

2562
01:50:52,669 --> 01:50:50,520
house before I could really see too much

2563
01:50:54,350 --> 01:50:52,679
other than what I had saw

2564
01:50:56,330 --> 01:50:54,360
and it seemed to have been hovering

2565
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:56,340
there for like several minutes probably

2566
01:50:59,870 --> 01:50:58,320
10 or 20 minutes

2567
01:51:01,729 --> 01:50:59,880
um I never really found out the outcome

2568
01:51:03,590 --> 01:51:01,739
of that because like I said my parents

2569
01:51:05,930 --> 01:51:03,600
kind of ushered me into the house and

2570
01:51:08,270 --> 01:51:05,940
then they went back in we haven't really

2571
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,280
discussed it ever since then

2572
01:51:13,850 --> 01:51:10,800
um but my parents have always been open

2573
01:51:16,609 --> 01:51:13,860
Believers and I've always been into like

2574
01:51:18,109 --> 01:51:16,619
sci-fi and that because I think uh that

2575
01:51:19,370 --> 01:51:18,119
definitely sparked something in them as

2576
01:51:20,930 --> 01:51:19,380
well but like I said we don't really

2577
01:51:23,629 --> 01:51:20,940
talk about it

2578
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,639
my second incident is a lot more clear

2579
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:26,000
and personal to me and I fully recounted

2580
01:51:31,310 --> 01:51:29,040
also I gotta say that after listening to

2581
01:51:33,550 --> 01:51:31,320
uh years of your podcasts and various

2582
01:51:36,590 --> 01:51:33,560
witness encounters and documented

2583
01:51:38,750 --> 01:51:36,600
stories and videos and there's handfuls

2584
01:51:41,149 --> 01:51:38,760
of common types of themes of accounts

2585
01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,159
but I haven't come across one with the

2586
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:43,440
same matched unique trade and I've

2587
01:51:47,870 --> 01:51:45,119
always searched to see if somebody had

2588
01:51:49,129 --> 01:51:47,880
seen something similar so yeah I find

2589
01:51:50,450 --> 01:51:49,139
this one particularly interesting

2590
01:51:53,149 --> 01:51:50,460
because of that

2591
01:51:54,590 --> 01:51:53,159
so when I was about 13 years old we were

2592
01:51:56,870 --> 01:51:54,600
living in a different house from my

2593
01:51:58,550 --> 01:51:56,880
earlier account behind my house was a

2594
01:52:00,290 --> 01:51:58,560
really large field and it was

2595
01:52:02,990 --> 01:52:00,300
underdeveloped even though we were in

2596
01:52:04,850 --> 01:52:03,000
the city on the other side of the field

2597
01:52:07,070 --> 01:52:04,860
kind of kitty corner was a 7-Eleven

2598
01:52:09,169 --> 01:52:07,080
store and in that day and age it wasn't

2599
01:52:12,050 --> 01:52:09,179
uncommon for parents to send their kids

2600
01:52:14,510 --> 01:52:12,060
to buy them cigarettes yeah I feel old I

2601
01:52:16,129 --> 01:52:14,520
know so my father would regularly send

2602
01:52:18,290 --> 01:52:16,139
him send me on runs to grab him

2603
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:18,300
cigarettes and since you know obviously

2604
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:20,639
I always had my head in the clouds in

2605
01:52:25,550 --> 01:52:23,520
the night sky there I would always be

2606
01:52:28,129 --> 01:52:25,560
gazing looking for something somewhere

2607
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:28,139
in the skies as I would go along this

2608
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:30,239
long walk through the field and it

2609
01:52:33,169 --> 01:52:31,920
always felt like a split second with my

2610
01:52:35,149 --> 01:52:33,179
mind racing

2611
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:35,159
so on this one particular night when I

2612
01:52:40,370 --> 01:52:38,159
was more than a halfway across the field

2613
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:40,380
um on one of my cigarette missions I'm

2614
01:52:45,050 --> 01:52:42,480
looking at a wide field of stars and I

2615
01:52:47,810 --> 01:52:45,060
noticed a seemingly plain star that had

2616
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:47,820
not moved previously and then suddenly

2617
01:52:53,090 --> 01:52:50,159
it started moving and drifting across

2618
01:52:55,010 --> 01:52:53,100
the sky in a slow rhythmic fashion sort

2619
01:52:57,470 --> 01:52:55,020
of how you would see like a modern day

2620
01:52:59,930 --> 01:52:57,480
satellite in orbit that's kind of how it

2621
01:53:02,570 --> 01:52:59,940
looked so after a few seconds of that

2622
01:53:05,030 --> 01:53:02,580
constant motion It sped up a bit and

2623
01:53:07,250 --> 01:53:05,040
then after it seemed to Traverse about a

2624
01:53:10,370 --> 01:53:07,260
quarter of the sky and then it would

2625
01:53:12,530 --> 01:53:10,380
stop suddenly again it was now hovering

2626
01:53:15,649 --> 01:53:12,540
Motionless in place and I completely

2627
01:53:17,750 --> 01:53:15,659
stopped walking as my gaze was frozen on

2628
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:17,760
this little star Dot

2629
01:53:23,270 --> 01:53:20,639
I noticed there was no noticeable sounds

2630
01:53:24,850 --> 01:53:23,280
or anything like that you know a kind of

2631
01:53:27,770 --> 01:53:24,860
common theme

2632
01:53:30,229 --> 01:53:27,780
I didn't feel anything strange it was

2633
01:53:32,629 --> 01:53:30,239
just it just seemed like a star that

2634
01:53:34,609 --> 01:53:32,639
wasn't moving then it was moving and

2635
01:53:35,990 --> 01:53:34,619
then it wasn't moving again which is

2636
01:53:39,169 --> 01:53:36,000
very peculiar

2637
01:53:42,109 --> 01:53:39,179
so then staring at it after about oh

2638
01:53:44,270 --> 01:53:42,119
10-15 seconds of nothing happening

2639
01:53:45,890 --> 01:53:44,280
I'm still locked in on it but then I saw

2640
01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:45,900
the strangest thing

2641
01:53:51,229 --> 01:53:48,480
I saw what appeared to be a beam of

2642
01:53:53,149 --> 01:53:51,239
faint white light slowly kind of growing

2643
01:53:55,970 --> 01:53:53,159
out of the star

2644
01:53:57,950 --> 01:53:55,980
um looking well the star looking Dot

2645
01:54:01,250 --> 01:53:57,960
and that light kind of reminded me of

2646
01:54:03,350 --> 01:54:01,260
how like a lightsaber turns on so it

2647
01:54:05,990 --> 01:54:03,360
just kind of grew you know coming out of

2648
01:54:08,990 --> 01:54:06,000
that dot and when it was about I'll say

2649
01:54:11,109 --> 01:54:09,000
an inch long from my perspective on the

2650
01:54:14,270 --> 01:54:11,119
ground uh against the length of the sky

2651
01:54:17,090 --> 01:54:14,280
the entire beam then started to spin

2652
01:54:19,250 --> 01:54:17,100
around the central Dot and as it spun

2653
01:54:21,530 --> 01:54:19,260
the colors oscillated through all the

2654
01:54:23,450 --> 01:54:21,540
various colors of the rainbow but like

2655
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:23,460
in no particular order of color it

2656
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:25,199
seemed to be just kind of random as it

2657
01:54:30,590 --> 01:54:27,360
spun around and around and around

2658
01:54:33,229 --> 01:54:30,600
so it gets spot around this dot about oh

2659
01:54:35,930 --> 01:54:33,239
a dozen-ish times or so and then it

2660
01:54:37,669 --> 01:54:35,940
abruptly stopped again and then slowly

2661
01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:37,679
retracted back into the center of the

2662
01:54:40,370 --> 01:54:39,119
dot like somebody turned off the

2663
01:54:43,310 --> 01:54:40,380
lightsaber

2664
01:54:46,910 --> 01:54:43,320
so at this point I'm just completely in

2665
01:54:49,129 --> 01:54:46,920
shock and awe and Frozen in place uh you

2666
01:54:50,750 --> 01:54:49,139
know about five ten more seconds pass

2667
01:54:52,850 --> 01:54:50,760
with nothing happening

2668
01:54:55,490 --> 01:54:52,860
and that same familiar ending to most

2669
01:54:58,129 --> 01:54:55,500
sightings happened that dot just shot

2670
01:55:00,290 --> 01:54:58,139
off across the sky at like warp 20 and

2671
01:55:02,750 --> 01:55:00,300
it was gone that was the end of it

2672
01:55:04,850 --> 01:55:02,760
I was completely Frozen in place for

2673
01:55:07,189 --> 01:55:04,860
like a couple of minutes after that just

2674
01:55:09,770 --> 01:55:07,199
scanning the sky and feeling a little

2675
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:09,780
bit shaken with a mix of uh feelings of

2676
01:55:14,030 --> 01:55:12,000
both fear and amazement and then I

2677
01:55:16,250 --> 01:55:14,040
finally came to my senses

2678
01:55:18,890 --> 01:55:16,260
once my head came back to ground level

2679
01:55:21,530 --> 01:55:18,900
and with the cigarette money in my hands

2680
01:55:23,689 --> 01:55:21,540
still I just turned around and beelined

2681
01:55:25,430 --> 01:55:23,699
it back home Came Crashing through the

2682
01:55:27,470 --> 01:55:25,440
door and threw the money at my father as

2683
01:55:29,870 --> 01:55:27,480
I ran past him screaming get your own

2684
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:29,880
damn cigarettes and ran into my room and

2685
01:55:33,530 --> 01:55:31,199
slammed the door

2686
01:55:36,350 --> 01:55:33,540
my father was obviously pretty taken by

2687
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,360
surprise by that you know a little WTF

2688
01:55:41,030 --> 01:55:38,159
moment that was definitely not my normal

2689
01:55:42,649 --> 01:55:41,040
behavior especially for a 13 year old so

2690
01:55:45,410 --> 01:55:42,659
you can imagine he wanted to know what

2691
01:55:48,229 --> 01:55:45,420
the hell was going on and I told him he

2692
01:55:50,450 --> 01:55:48,239
kind of listened and didn't make too

2693
01:55:52,850 --> 01:55:50,460
much out of it but I know in his heart

2694
01:55:54,410 --> 01:55:52,860
he he knows it was something

2695
01:55:56,930 --> 01:55:54,420
looking back

2696
01:55:59,209 --> 01:55:56,940
um you know it's it seems funny now but

2697
01:56:01,550 --> 01:55:59,219
at the time I was pretty shaken by it

2698
01:56:04,010 --> 01:56:01,560
and it definitely solidified my

2699
01:56:07,310 --> 01:56:04,020
curiosity and interest for a very long

2700
01:56:09,169 --> 01:56:07,320
time until I find those answers but

2701
01:56:10,970 --> 01:56:09,179
needless to say I didn't go get

2702
01:56:12,410 --> 01:56:10,980
cigarettes for him for a long time after

2703
01:56:14,990 --> 01:56:12,420
that night

2704
01:56:16,910 --> 01:56:15,000
based on my life's experiences and the

2705
01:56:19,669 --> 01:56:16,920
Curiosities that were sparked Inside Me

2706
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:19,679
by everything I've seen and experienced

2707
01:56:24,830 --> 01:56:22,560
and read up on my feelings are are

2708
01:56:26,629 --> 01:56:24,840
pretty solid in the matter

2709
01:56:29,149 --> 01:56:26,639
um very similar to your own from

2710
01:56:31,490 --> 01:56:29,159
listening to your account and knowing

2711
01:56:35,149 --> 01:56:31,500
your own views Ryan from many podcasts

2712
01:56:37,010 --> 01:56:35,159
that you've shared you know as as we all

2713
01:56:39,770 --> 01:56:37,020
well know there are you know billions

2714
01:56:42,290 --> 01:56:39,780
and billions of stars out there and it's

2715
01:56:44,149 --> 01:56:42,300
mathematically impossible that we're the

2716
01:56:46,570 --> 01:56:44,159
only ones you know I want to keep

2717
01:56:49,310 --> 01:56:46,580
religion out of this but you know if

2718
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:49,320
religion suggests that you know the God

2719
01:56:53,450 --> 01:56:51,360
created the universe the heavens and the

2720
01:56:56,209 --> 01:56:53,460
Earth and that it should be all there to

2721
01:56:59,330 --> 01:56:56,219
kind of service us but I got to admit

2722
01:57:01,810 --> 01:56:59,340
I'm I'm not a strong believer in that

2723
01:57:04,490 --> 01:57:01,820
philosophy I'm very much into

2724
01:57:06,530 --> 01:57:04,500
astrophysics and understanding the uh

2725
01:57:08,990 --> 01:57:06,540
metaphysical nature of the universe and

2726
01:57:12,470 --> 01:57:09,000
the cosmos and

2727
01:57:15,410 --> 01:57:12,480
whether or not I feel that we're being

2728
01:57:19,030 --> 01:57:15,420
visited by aliens in spacecrafts versus

2729
01:57:23,089 --> 01:57:19,040
our UFOs or uaps as they're called now

2730
01:57:25,970 --> 01:57:23,099
simply higher technology from foreign

2731
01:57:28,910 --> 01:57:25,980
adversaries which I genuinely believe is

2732
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:28,920
not the case that any current

2733
01:57:32,330 --> 01:57:30,480
earth-based adversary would have that

2734
01:57:34,609 --> 01:57:32,340
kind of level of Technology far ahead of

2735
01:57:36,290 --> 01:57:34,619
us but you know this is overlapping that

2736
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:36,300
all the things that have happened the

2737
01:57:41,810 --> 01:57:38,159
last month or so about the UAP task

2738
01:57:43,790 --> 01:57:41,820
force report which we won't go into

2739
01:57:46,070 --> 01:57:43,800
um could it be you know interdimensional

2740
01:57:47,810 --> 01:57:46,080
could it be Time Travelers you know us

2741
01:57:50,930 --> 01:57:47,820
visiting ourselves

2742
01:57:51,950 --> 01:57:50,940
from the future looking back Anything is

2743
01:57:54,050 --> 01:57:51,960
Possible

2744
01:57:57,350 --> 01:57:54,060
I'm not going to sit there and put that

2745
01:57:58,729 --> 01:57:57,360
hat on and say yep UFOs are aliens but

2746
01:58:02,810 --> 01:57:58,739
I'm certainly not going to discount it

2747
01:58:06,410 --> 01:58:02,820
either is there a current earth-based

2748
01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:06,420
technology concept that's proven that

2749
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:09,360
shows faster than light travel which

2750
01:58:13,790 --> 01:58:11,760
would be required to Traverse the

2751
01:58:17,149 --> 01:58:13,800
distances even to our closest neighbor

2752
01:58:19,450 --> 01:58:17,159
star at like four light years away

2753
01:58:22,669 --> 01:58:19,460
um not currently there's certainly

2754
01:58:25,550 --> 01:58:22,679
philosophical Concepts astrophysical

2755
01:58:28,609 --> 01:58:25,560
ideas and constructs

2756
01:58:31,070 --> 01:58:28,619
but I do believe that considering the

2757
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:31,080
universe was created and expanded out

2758
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:33,199
that there could definitely be

2759
01:58:38,450 --> 01:58:35,760
civilizations that were developed you

2760
01:58:40,609 --> 01:58:38,460
know Millennials ahead of us

2761
01:58:43,370 --> 01:58:40,619
um that may have had a heck of a lot

2762
01:58:46,010 --> 01:58:43,380
longer to develop technology that could

2763
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:46,020
possibly have allowed them to unlock a

2764
01:58:53,089 --> 01:58:49,679
way to travel this far

2765
01:58:56,330 --> 01:58:53,099
but on the other hand if not then it's

2766
01:58:58,970 --> 01:58:56,340
also feasibly impossible to suggest that

2767
01:59:01,609 --> 01:58:58,980
people from another world could have

2768
01:59:04,370 --> 01:59:01,619
reached us in their lifetimes unless it

2769
01:59:05,990 --> 01:59:04,380
was you know drone automated uh probes

2770
01:59:07,850 --> 01:59:06,000
like we've got the Voyager probe sent

2771
01:59:10,189 --> 01:59:07,860
out you know a millennia Ago by the time

2772
01:59:11,330 --> 01:59:10,199
it reached us with a civilization that's

2773
01:59:13,850 --> 01:59:11,340
long gone

2774
01:59:16,010 --> 01:59:13,860
regardless those are my feelings on the

2775
01:59:17,030 --> 01:59:16,020
topic and that's where I stand on

2776
01:59:18,950 --> 01:59:17,040
everything

2777
01:59:22,430 --> 01:59:18,960
thanks for giving me this opportunity

2778
01:59:23,930 --> 01:59:22,440
and uh thank you very much Ryan keep

2779
01:59:26,589 --> 01:59:23,940
fighting the good fight on our all of

2780
01:59:29,510 --> 01:59:26,599
our behalfs

2781
01:59:32,450 --> 01:59:29,520
hey Ryan I appreciate the opportunity to

2782
01:59:36,229 --> 01:59:32,460
kind of tell what I saw man

2783
01:59:38,629 --> 01:59:36,239
um in 2018 BC before covet

2784
01:59:40,129 --> 01:59:38,639
I was out with my family on Halloween

2785
01:59:41,689 --> 01:59:40,139
night

2786
01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:41,699
we better

2787
01:59:45,470 --> 01:59:43,860
you know fairly good-sized neighborhood

2788
01:59:47,270 --> 01:59:45,480
there's a lot of families a lot of kids

2789
01:59:49,129 --> 01:59:47,280
there's probably a hundred people

2790
01:59:51,410 --> 01:59:49,139
walking around

2791
01:59:53,149 --> 01:59:51,420
you know in the neighborhood

2792
01:59:55,430 --> 01:59:53,159
and

2793
01:59:57,709 --> 01:59:55,440
as we're approaching one of the houses

2794
01:59:59,629 --> 01:59:57,719
my son's running to the front door to go

2795
02:00:02,570 --> 01:59:59,639
get some candy and all that good stuff

2796
02:00:04,129 --> 02:00:02,580
and I noticed you know two gentlemen

2797
02:00:05,810 --> 02:00:04,139
standing off to the side and they're

2798
02:00:08,030 --> 02:00:05,820
looking up in the sky

2799
02:00:10,070 --> 02:00:08,040
kind of looking around a tree

2800
02:00:12,229 --> 02:00:10,080
looking over the roof of the house like

2801
02:00:13,910 --> 02:00:12,239
they're just looking at something

2802
02:00:16,729 --> 02:00:13,920
and I can hear one of them say you know

2803
02:00:18,589 --> 02:00:16,739
oh it's you know look at that so

2804
02:00:20,930 --> 02:00:18,599
super curious want to know what's

2805
02:00:21,950 --> 02:00:20,940
happening I walk up you know what are

2806
02:00:24,649 --> 02:00:21,960
y'all seeing

2807
02:00:27,530 --> 02:00:24,659
the guy says man you know they're I

2808
02:00:29,030 --> 02:00:27,540
think there's a UFO in the sky and I'm

2809
02:00:31,550 --> 02:00:29,040
like where

2810
02:00:33,530 --> 02:00:31,560
immediately and

2811
02:00:35,089 --> 02:00:33,540
he kind of points to the Western sky and

2812
02:00:36,229 --> 02:00:35,099
he says you know if you can look

2813
02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:36,239
straight ahead you see that bright

2814
02:00:40,970 --> 02:00:38,940
bright star and I look up I see the star

2815
02:00:44,149 --> 02:00:40,980
he just look to the left of it

2816
02:00:47,330 --> 02:00:44,159
so I looked to the left of the star and

2817
02:00:48,830 --> 02:00:47,340
there's a white glowing object in the

2818
02:00:50,209 --> 02:00:48,840
sky

2819
02:00:52,189 --> 02:00:50,219
um hovering

2820
02:00:54,290 --> 02:00:52,199
and then

2821
02:00:55,129 --> 02:00:54,300
like right after that it just starts to

2822
02:01:00,109 --> 02:00:55,139
move

2823
02:01:01,550 --> 02:01:00,119
through this guy from this West to North

2824
02:01:03,950 --> 02:01:01,560
and

2825
02:01:06,109 --> 02:01:03,960
it didn't make a sound

2826
02:01:06,950 --> 02:01:06,119
solid white

2827
02:01:08,870 --> 02:01:06,960
um

2828
02:01:10,070 --> 02:01:08,880
kind of stopped and then started back up

2829
02:01:12,229 --> 02:01:10,080
moving

2830
02:01:15,410 --> 02:01:12,239
from like a dead stop

2831
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:16,370
um

2832
02:01:21,830 --> 02:01:18,000
we watched it for

2833
02:01:24,310 --> 02:01:21,840
a minute maybe a full minute

2834
02:01:29,510 --> 02:01:28,430
it was like it was unlike anything I've

2835
02:01:31,609 --> 02:01:29,520
ever seen

2836
02:01:35,510 --> 02:01:31,619
I we live in a military town in Florida

2837
02:01:36,890 --> 02:01:35,520
we see planes we see helicopters

2838
02:01:40,010 --> 02:01:36,900
um you know I've seen the starlink

2839
02:01:42,410 --> 02:01:40,020
satellites I've seen the ISS it wasn't

2840
02:01:43,510 --> 02:01:42,420
any of these things

2841
02:01:46,370 --> 02:01:43,520
um

2842
02:01:48,290 --> 02:01:46,380
the most amazing part of it is when it

2843
02:01:50,689 --> 02:01:48,300
was all over

2844
02:01:53,149 --> 02:01:50,699
and as it was sinking in

2845
02:01:56,270 --> 02:01:53,159
I realized that I didn't reach for my

2846
02:01:58,370 --> 02:01:56,280
phone I I I couldn't even think that

2847
02:01:59,930 --> 02:01:58,380
fast enough and so I get that now I get

2848
02:02:01,850 --> 02:01:59,940
why

2849
02:02:04,669 --> 02:02:01,860
we don't see these pictures of things

2850
02:02:06,229 --> 02:02:04,679
because as soon as you see it you're so

2851
02:02:08,390 --> 02:02:06,239
focused on trying to

2852
02:02:10,490 --> 02:02:08,400
figure out what it is process it you

2853
02:02:12,290 --> 02:02:10,500
don't even think about capturing it and

2854
02:02:14,750 --> 02:02:12,300
so that was the biggest takeaway I think

2855
02:02:16,450 --> 02:02:14,760
for me as amazing as it was to see the

2856
02:02:19,129 --> 02:02:16,460
object and and

2857
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:19,139
as cool as it was to see it

2858
02:02:22,490 --> 02:02:20,880
the thing that stuck with me is the fact

2859
02:02:25,729 --> 02:02:22,500
that I didn't I couldn't get it

2860
02:02:27,530 --> 02:02:25,739
documented because my brain just did not

2861
02:02:29,450 --> 02:02:27,540
work that way

2862
02:02:31,129 --> 02:02:29,460
um so I get that now and that really

2863
02:02:33,229 --> 02:02:31,139
helped me because

2864
02:02:35,930 --> 02:02:33,239
you know now when I hear things and I

2865
02:02:37,910 --> 02:02:35,940
hear criticism and I hear Skeptics and

2866
02:02:39,410 --> 02:02:37,920
you know the question is well why don't

2867
02:02:42,350 --> 02:02:39,420
we see pictures and videos well that's

2868
02:02:44,510 --> 02:02:42,360
why folks it's just not

2869
02:02:47,030 --> 02:02:44,520
it doesn't work like that you know it

2870
02:02:49,609 --> 02:02:47,040
just does not work like that

2871
02:02:51,950 --> 02:02:49,619
um that's it man it was one of the

2872
02:02:54,530 --> 02:02:51,960
coolest things I've ever seen I I truly

2873
02:02:57,169 --> 02:02:54,540
hope I get to see another one and uh

2874
02:03:01,790 --> 02:02:57,179
that's it man I appreciate the time and

2875
02:03:06,830 --> 02:03:05,089
hi my name is Randy I'm 45 years old I

2876
02:03:08,149 --> 02:03:06,840
live in the San Francisco Bay area but

2877
02:03:11,030 --> 02:03:08,159
the event I'm going to tell you about

2878
02:03:12,350 --> 02:03:11,040
took place almost 26 years ago when I

2879
02:03:14,689 --> 02:03:12,360
still lived in my hometown of Palm

2880
02:03:17,450 --> 02:03:14,699
Springs California I first recounted

2881
02:03:19,910 --> 02:03:17,460
this event to Ryan back in 2018 but I

2882
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:19,920
figured it was finally time to get it on

2883
02:03:24,470 --> 02:03:22,080
the record so for some setup here it was

2884
02:03:27,350 --> 02:03:24,480
Halloween night 1995. it was technically

2885
02:03:29,390 --> 02:03:27,360
the early morning of November 1st I

2886
02:03:31,310 --> 02:03:29,400
drove into La for a concert on Halloween

2887
02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:31,320
with three of my friends and we were

2888
02:03:34,729 --> 02:03:32,400
headed home

2889
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:34,739
it was close to 3 A.M and we were about

2890
02:03:38,750 --> 02:03:36,719
20 miles outside of Palm Springs heading

2891
02:03:41,330 --> 02:03:38,760
East on Interstate 10. we were in

2892
02:03:43,609 --> 02:03:41,340
Cabazon that's the location of the world

2893
02:03:45,649 --> 02:03:43,619
famous life-sized dinosaurs that you'll

2894
02:03:47,870 --> 02:03:45,659
see now and again on movies and on TV

2895
02:03:50,390 --> 02:03:47,880
that was the point when I first noticed

2896
02:03:52,669 --> 02:03:50,400
the light in the sky ahead of us we were

2897
02:03:54,890 --> 02:03:52,679
still miles away from it but I could see

2898
02:03:56,570 --> 02:03:54,900
this light it was directly ahead of us

2899
02:03:58,129 --> 02:03:56,580
it was a bit below the top of the

2900
02:03:59,629 --> 02:03:58,139
windshield so it was in my line of sight

2901
02:04:00,709 --> 02:03:59,639
so it first caught my attention about

2902
02:04:03,290 --> 02:04:00,719
this light

2903
02:04:07,070 --> 02:04:03,300
was the brightness it was directly ahead

2904
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:07,080
of us it looked like Stadium lights or a

2905
02:04:12,109 --> 02:04:09,599
large airliner coming into land and now

2906
02:04:13,850 --> 02:04:12,119
there's no stadium in that part of the

2907
02:04:15,169 --> 02:04:13,860
desert outside of Palm Springs there

2908
02:04:17,930 --> 02:04:15,179
wasn't at that time and there isn't now

2909
02:04:20,390 --> 02:04:17,940
there were no large light poles with

2910
02:04:22,669 --> 02:04:20,400
lights on top of them this tall there

2911
02:04:26,570 --> 02:04:22,679
was also no major airport Palm Springs

2912
02:04:29,030 --> 02:04:26,580
Airport that was to the southeast of

2913
02:04:31,910 --> 02:04:29,040
where this was there was a small

2914
02:04:34,310 --> 02:04:31,920
Municipal landing strip that was due

2915
02:04:35,810 --> 02:04:34,320
west of this location but an airplane of

2916
02:04:38,149 --> 02:04:35,820
this size at least from what I could

2917
02:04:40,970 --> 02:04:38,159
tell would not be able to land at this

2918
02:04:43,070 --> 02:04:40,980
Airfield so basically there's this large

2919
02:04:44,810 --> 02:04:43,080
light in the sky it wasn't just the

2920
02:04:46,370 --> 02:04:44,820
brightness of this light it was the

2921
02:04:48,950 --> 02:04:46,380
quality of the light and the fact that

2922
02:04:51,770 --> 02:04:48,960
it was changing that really held my

2923
02:04:55,189 --> 02:04:51,780
interest now when I say the quality of

2924
02:04:58,070 --> 02:04:55,199
the light it was very bright but it was

2925
02:05:00,290 --> 02:04:58,080
also cold looking it was this cold

2926
02:05:03,890 --> 02:05:00,300
bluish white and in addition to this it

2927
02:05:06,169 --> 02:05:03,900
was clean between what I say are low

2928
02:05:09,229 --> 02:05:06,179
beams and high beams so basically

2929
02:05:13,609 --> 02:05:09,239
dimming and intensifying at a consistent

2930
02:05:16,250 --> 02:05:13,619
Pace dim bright dim bright it would stay

2931
02:05:18,890 --> 02:05:16,260
dim for maybe a five count get bright

2932
02:05:21,050 --> 02:05:18,900
for maybe another five seconds and so on

2933
02:05:23,390 --> 02:05:21,060
when the light was at its brightest it

2934
02:05:26,390 --> 02:05:23,400
almost looked like three horizontal

2935
02:05:29,510 --> 02:05:26,400
diamonds in the sky they bled out

2936
02:05:31,850 --> 02:05:29,520
horizontally almost like lens flare and

2937
02:05:33,530 --> 02:05:31,860
the JJ Abrams Star Trek movies I didn't

2938
02:05:36,169 --> 02:05:33,540
wear glasses at the time but I could

2939
02:05:37,970 --> 02:05:36,179
still see this very intensely bright

2940
02:05:39,470 --> 02:05:37,980
light the other thing that caught my

2941
02:05:42,290 --> 02:05:39,480
attention was the fact that this light

2942
02:05:45,050 --> 02:05:42,300
didn't seem to be moving towards us or

2943
02:05:46,729 --> 02:05:45,060
away from us or moving at all in fact we

2944
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,739
were moving towards it so we were

2945
02:05:49,310 --> 02:05:48,000
getting closer but it was just staying

2946
02:05:52,669 --> 02:05:49,320
in the same place

2947
02:05:55,010 --> 02:05:52,679
so after taking this in for 30 seconds

2948
02:05:56,930 --> 02:05:55,020
or a minute or so I pointed out to my

2949
02:05:58,729 --> 02:05:56,940
best friend Paul who was in the

2950
02:06:01,010 --> 02:05:58,739
passenger seat and was awake my other

2951
02:06:03,530 --> 02:06:01,020
two friends were in the back seat passed

2952
02:06:06,050 --> 02:06:03,540
out again it was 3 A.M and we just been

2953
02:06:07,850 --> 02:06:06,060
uh to a concert that night so talking

2954
02:06:10,070 --> 02:06:07,860
with Paul he and I thought for a moment

2955
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:10,080
that this could be maybe the light on

2956
02:06:13,790 --> 02:06:11,520
the summit station of the Palm Springs

2957
02:06:15,530 --> 02:06:13,800
aerial Tramway which is at the top of

2958
02:06:17,209 --> 02:06:15,540
Mount San Jacinto but that's not

2959
02:06:18,890 --> 02:06:17,219
actually visible from the Eastern side

2960
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:18,900
of the mountain range which is where we

2961
02:06:21,890 --> 02:06:19,679
were

2962
02:06:23,030 --> 02:06:21,900
so we kept our eye on this thing we

2963
02:06:24,770 --> 02:06:23,040
weren't really talking about it that

2964
02:06:26,810 --> 02:06:24,780
much just sort of let's keep an eye on

2965
02:06:28,189 --> 02:06:26,820
this thing we kept driving as normal we

2966
02:06:29,870 --> 02:06:28,199
were maybe driving a little bit under

2967
02:06:31,850 --> 02:06:29,880
the speed limit because we were just

2968
02:06:33,709 --> 02:06:31,860
focusing on this strange motionless

2969
02:06:35,689 --> 02:06:33,719
light in the sky ahead of us that we

2970
02:06:38,810 --> 02:06:35,699
were you know fairly quickly approaching

2971
02:06:40,430 --> 02:06:38,820
so as we got closer and closer maybe

2972
02:06:42,350 --> 02:06:40,440
just a couple of minutes away from the

2973
02:06:44,149 --> 02:06:42,360
light which was getting larger because

2974
02:06:46,250 --> 02:06:44,159
it was staying in the same place but we

2975
02:06:47,930 --> 02:06:46,260
were getting closer to it we slowed even

2976
02:06:50,750 --> 02:06:47,940
more because we needed to take the turn

2977
02:06:52,910 --> 02:06:50,760
off for Highway 111 that takes you into

2978
02:06:54,830 --> 02:06:52,920
Palm Springs so at this point we're

2979
02:06:57,410 --> 02:06:54,840
about 10 miles down the highway 10 miles

2980
02:06:59,089 --> 02:06:57,420
east on the highway from where we first

2981
02:07:01,729 --> 02:06:59,099
spotted the light and rapidly

2982
02:07:03,290 --> 02:07:01,739
approaching it at this point myself my

2983
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:03,300
friend Paul we were we were both

2984
02:07:07,010 --> 02:07:05,040
experiencing and communicating to each

2985
02:07:10,490 --> 02:07:07,020
other this legitimate sense of disbelief

2986
02:07:12,109 --> 02:07:10,500
and I would say Awe and shock but I I'd

2987
02:07:14,629 --> 02:07:12,119
have to say you know I didn't feel any

2988
02:07:17,330 --> 02:07:14,639
fear I wasn't anxious I was just

2989
02:07:20,750 --> 02:07:17,340
completely rap in attention towards this

2990
02:07:23,570 --> 02:07:20,760
object whatever it was because it was so

2991
02:07:26,030 --> 02:07:23,580
unusual to see something this bright

2992
02:07:28,729 --> 02:07:26,040
with this quality of light and just

2993
02:07:31,189 --> 02:07:28,739
sitting there in the sky if anything I

2994
02:07:32,810 --> 02:07:31,199
was beside myself at this point just

2995
02:07:34,550 --> 02:07:32,820
trying to kind of process what I was

2996
02:07:36,229 --> 02:07:34,560
seeing so we were looking at something

2997
02:07:38,689 --> 02:07:36,239
that was emitting this strange

2998
02:07:40,609 --> 02:07:38,699
otherworldly light and not only that but

2999
02:07:43,010 --> 02:07:40,619
it was stuck just a couple hundred feet

3000
02:07:44,209 --> 02:07:43,020
in the air above a rest stop on the side

3001
02:07:45,770 --> 02:07:44,219
of the freeway it's actually called The

3002
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:45,780
White Water rest stops there's one on

3003
02:07:49,790 --> 02:07:47,520
each side of the freeway it was on the

3004
02:07:52,010 --> 02:07:49,800
southern side of the freeway and so when

3005
02:07:55,310 --> 02:07:52,020
I say stuck I mean it's like whatever

3006
02:07:59,330 --> 02:07:55,320
this was was sitting on a shelf in the

3007
02:08:01,010 --> 02:07:59,340
sky or on a pole so like I said it could

3008
02:08:03,169 --> 02:08:01,020
kind of be described as looking like an

3009
02:08:06,050 --> 02:08:03,179
intensely Bright Stadium light from like

3010
02:08:07,129 --> 02:08:06,060
a NFL stadium it wasn't moving an inch

3011
02:08:08,810 --> 02:08:07,139
and that was something you could tell

3012
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:08,820
from the direction of the lights as they

3013
02:08:12,410 --> 02:08:10,320
dimmed and brightened they were they

3014
02:08:14,030 --> 02:08:12,420
looked like they were facing in the same

3015
02:08:15,470 --> 02:08:14,040
direction the entire time now at this

3016
02:08:17,629 --> 02:08:15,480
point I should say that we weren't alone

3017
02:08:18,830 --> 02:08:17,639
on the freeway I recall that we were

3018
02:08:20,270 --> 02:08:18,840
moving slower than the rest of the

3019
02:08:21,890 --> 02:08:20,280
traffic because we were actually looking

3020
02:08:23,629 --> 02:08:21,900
at this thing there were a handful of

3021
02:08:25,609 --> 02:08:23,639
other cars on the road it was 3 A.M

3022
02:08:27,350 --> 02:08:25,619
again on Halloween night but there

3023
02:08:29,510 --> 02:08:27,360
definitely was was other traffic it

3024
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:29,520
didn't really seem that anyone else was

3025
02:08:34,070 --> 02:08:31,920
slowing down or noticing this light but

3026
02:08:35,990 --> 02:08:34,080
someone must have seen what we saw but

3027
02:08:38,270 --> 02:08:36,000
if they did they they weren't reacting

3028
02:08:40,729 --> 02:08:38,280
to it so as we approached the turn off

3029
02:08:43,310 --> 02:08:40,739
to Highway 111 there's a ramp that leads

3030
02:08:45,050 --> 02:08:43,320
up and over a flood Basin before heading

3031
02:08:47,689 --> 02:08:45,060
Southeast and then East out to Palm

3032
02:08:50,089 --> 02:08:47,699
Springs so because of this ramp we were

3033
02:08:52,250 --> 02:08:50,099
able to climb about 20 feet up towards

3034
02:08:55,970 --> 02:08:52,260
the object and got an unobstructed view

3035
02:08:58,790 --> 02:08:55,980
of it there sitting in the sky and so it

3036
02:09:00,589 --> 02:08:58,800
was hovering sitting whatever you want

3037
02:09:02,689 --> 02:09:00,599
to say in the sky above this rest stop

3038
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:02,699
location again about a couple hundred

3039
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:04,800
feet up in the air I'm looking you know

3040
02:09:08,930 --> 02:09:06,719
kind of straight up and at an angle

3041
02:09:10,550 --> 02:09:08,940
towards it I practically taken my foot

3042
02:09:12,530 --> 02:09:10,560
off the gas at this point we were just

3043
02:09:15,410 --> 02:09:12,540
coasting at the top of this off-ramp

3044
02:09:17,089 --> 02:09:15,420
looking to the left at this object so

3045
02:09:19,669 --> 02:09:17,099
it's at this point that the object began

3046
02:09:22,010 --> 02:09:19,679
to move towards us it moved at an angle

3047
02:09:24,530 --> 02:09:22,020
goal down towards the Southwest towards

3048
02:09:26,930 --> 02:09:24,540
us it moved over the highway over our

3049
02:09:29,390 --> 02:09:26,940
car we'd rolled down our Windows there

3050
02:09:31,310 --> 02:09:29,400
was absolutely no sound outside except

3051
02:09:33,410 --> 02:09:31,320
maybe a little bit of wind I craned my

3052
02:09:35,089 --> 02:09:33,420
head out the driver's side window and

3053
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:35,099
looked up at the object my friend Paul

3054
02:09:38,689 --> 02:09:36,960
was doing the same on the passenger side

3055
02:09:41,870 --> 02:09:38,699
what I saw a couple hundred feet above

3056
02:09:43,729 --> 02:09:41,880
us now were three pale Lights of the

3057
02:09:46,070 --> 02:09:43,739
same cold quality that he'd seen from a

3058
02:09:48,290 --> 02:09:46,080
distance but they are arranged in an

3059
02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:48,300
equilateral triangle and they were

3060
02:09:51,950 --> 02:09:49,920
silently drifting across the highway

3061
02:09:53,689 --> 02:09:51,960
above our car that was coasting so I

3062
02:09:55,910 --> 02:09:53,699
could tell that these lights were at the

3063
02:09:58,490 --> 02:09:55,920
points of an actual object a physical

3064
02:10:00,589 --> 02:09:58,500
object because I could make out the

3065
02:10:02,870 --> 02:10:00,599
object's triangular shape against the

3066
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:02,880
Starlet sky so it was a crystal clear

3067
02:10:06,649 --> 02:10:04,800
night the Skies of the desert are filled

3068
02:10:08,689 --> 02:10:06,659
with stars and there was some Moonlight

3069
02:10:10,609 --> 02:10:08,699
I was mostly able to make out the shape

3070
02:10:12,770 --> 02:10:10,619
because the object was covering the

3071
02:10:15,290 --> 02:10:12,780
stars as it crept over us but also

3072
02:10:17,450 --> 02:10:15,300
because its surface was so much darker

3073
02:10:19,189 --> 02:10:17,460
than the night sky around it it can only

3074
02:10:21,050 --> 02:10:19,199
describe the quality of the Surface by

3075
02:10:23,209 --> 02:10:21,060
comparing it to something like vanta

3076
02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:23,219
black which is the darkest black that

3077
02:10:26,870 --> 02:10:24,960
we've been able to create it essentially

3078
02:10:29,030 --> 02:10:26,880
reflected no visible light to the point

3079
02:10:31,550 --> 02:10:29,040
that the lights on the object weren't

3080
02:10:33,709 --> 02:10:31,560
revealing any details of its surface if

3081
02:10:36,050 --> 02:10:33,719
you've seen an airplane flying at night

3082
02:10:37,609 --> 02:10:36,060
with its Landing lights on you know what

3083
02:10:39,290 --> 02:10:37,619
it looks like when the light reflects

3084
02:10:41,330 --> 02:10:39,300
off of the fuselage reflects off the

3085
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,340
wings it very clearly illuminates the

3086
02:10:45,410 --> 02:10:43,440
aircraft in this case it didn't and so

3087
02:10:47,330 --> 02:10:45,420
there were no visible seams or bolts or

3088
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:47,340
markings things that you should have

3089
02:10:51,229 --> 02:10:48,960
been able to see at such a close

3090
02:10:54,709 --> 02:10:51,239
distance this thing was just a void in

3091
02:10:57,950 --> 02:10:54,719
the sky perhaps guessing here 50 to 80

3092
02:11:00,050 --> 02:10:57,960
feet on each side with these cold blue

3093
02:11:02,750 --> 02:11:00,060
lights at Each corner so the object

3094
02:11:04,850 --> 02:11:02,760
passed over us to the Southwest my

3095
02:11:07,070 --> 02:11:04,860
friend Paul lost sight of it he told me

3096
02:11:08,570 --> 02:11:07,080
it looked like it blinked out it was

3097
02:11:09,830 --> 02:11:08,580
just gone it was around this point that

3098
02:11:11,629 --> 02:11:09,840
our two friends in the back seat were

3099
02:11:13,729 --> 02:11:11,639
finally waking up due to all the

3100
02:11:15,470 --> 02:11:13,739
shouting and sound that my friend Paul

3101
02:11:17,510 --> 02:11:15,480
and I were making so they hadn't

3102
02:11:19,370 --> 02:11:17,520
actually seen anything I kept driving

3103
02:11:21,410 --> 02:11:19,380
and I dropped my friends off then headed

3104
02:11:23,930 --> 02:11:21,420
home along the way Paul and I recounted

3105
02:11:25,790 --> 02:11:23,940
in detail what had just taken place to

3106
02:11:27,470 --> 02:11:25,800
our friends who'd been sleeping they

3107
02:11:29,149 --> 02:11:27,480
were basically both incredulous about

3108
02:11:31,729 --> 02:11:29,159
everything they thought maybe it was a

3109
02:11:33,589 --> 02:11:31,739
plane or helicopter despite the fact

3110
02:11:35,930 --> 02:11:33,599
that it was so early in the morning

3111
02:11:37,550 --> 02:11:35,940
below altitude the location it just

3112
02:11:39,530 --> 02:11:37,560
didn't make sense to us so when I

3113
02:11:41,330 --> 02:11:39,540
finally got home around 4am I woke up my

3114
02:11:43,669 --> 02:11:41,340
parents to tell them what I'd seen and

3115
02:11:45,229 --> 02:11:43,679
they seemed somewhat interested but not

3116
02:11:46,850 --> 02:11:45,239
that concerned I chalked up their lack

3117
02:11:49,370 --> 02:11:46,860
of excitement to the fact that their son

3118
02:11:51,290 --> 02:11:49,380
had just woken them up at 4am to tell

3119
02:11:53,030 --> 02:11:51,300
them he'd seen a UFO but my dad was into

3120
02:11:55,070 --> 02:11:53,040
the subject we used to watch The X-Files

3121
02:11:57,050 --> 02:11:55,080
together my mom had seen some strange

3122
02:11:59,510 --> 02:11:57,060
things from many a night spent sitting

3123
02:12:01,129 --> 02:11:59,520
on a patio out in the desert so I went

3124
02:12:03,050 --> 02:12:01,139
to bed still thinking about what we'd

3125
02:12:04,550 --> 02:12:03,060
seen I remember my overriding thought at

3126
02:12:07,070 --> 02:12:04,560
the time was that if we'd seen a

3127
02:12:09,350 --> 02:12:07,080
quote-unquote real UFO that what else

3128
02:12:11,390 --> 02:12:09,360
could be real what else out there that

3129
02:12:13,850 --> 02:12:11,400
we've been told didn't exist or couldn't

3130
02:12:15,229 --> 02:12:13,860
exist could actually exist and that's a

3131
02:12:18,050 --> 02:12:15,239
thought that's been with me ever since

3132
02:12:19,550 --> 02:12:18,060
I've been interested in UFOs since a

3133
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:19,560
really young age I've always loved

3134
02:12:24,470 --> 02:12:21,599
science fiction always fascinated by

3135
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:24,480
Tales of UFOs from shows like in search

3136
02:12:27,589 --> 02:12:26,400
of one of the defining moments of my

3137
02:12:29,149 --> 02:12:27,599
childhood was the release of close

3138
02:12:31,129 --> 02:12:29,159
encounters with the Third Kind which

3139
02:12:33,229 --> 02:12:31,139
absolutely captivated me but to say that

3140
02:12:34,910 --> 02:12:33,239
this event has stuck with me would be a

3141
02:12:37,010 --> 02:12:34,920
massive understatement I think about it

3142
02:12:38,870 --> 02:12:37,020
practically every day and has driven me

3143
02:12:40,910 --> 02:12:38,880
to study the subject although I wouldn't

3144
02:12:43,729 --> 02:12:40,920
say that it's to a level of a dedicated

3145
02:12:46,310 --> 02:12:43,739
researcher yet nevertheless I'd classify

3146
02:12:47,750 --> 02:12:46,320
this as a true life-changing event my

3147
02:12:49,250 --> 02:12:47,760
friend Paul and I discuss it regularly

3148
02:12:51,350 --> 02:12:49,260
and we've traded theories over the years

3149
02:12:53,930 --> 02:12:51,360
neither of us is convinced that it was

3150
02:12:55,669 --> 02:12:53,940
truly otherworldly but we do believe

3151
02:12:58,250 --> 02:12:55,679
that it wasn't technology that existed

3152
02:13:00,530 --> 02:12:58,260
in the civilian World in 1995 or at any

3153
02:13:02,629 --> 02:13:00,540
point since there was Zero movement when

3154
02:13:05,030 --> 02:13:02,639
it sat in the sky for 15 to 20 minutes

3155
02:13:07,729 --> 02:13:05,040
as we observed it before passing under

3156
02:13:09,890 --> 02:13:07,739
it or in Passing Over Us it didn't make

3157
02:13:11,990 --> 02:13:09,900
any sound it didn't have any downwash

3158
02:13:14,030 --> 02:13:12,000
like a helicopter if it had been some

3159
02:13:15,770 --> 02:13:14,040
sort of lighter than aircraft or some

3160
02:13:17,930 --> 02:13:15,780
sort of military dirigible like we've

3161
02:13:19,790 --> 02:13:17,940
seen in subsequent years it surely would

3162
02:13:22,970 --> 02:13:19,800
have drifted some but it was just

3163
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:22,980
completely fixed in the sky we've also

3164
02:13:27,649 --> 02:13:24,960
talked about the fact that if this were

3165
02:13:29,810 --> 02:13:27,659
some true anti-gravidic technology that

3166
02:13:32,209 --> 02:13:29,820
you probably need to draw upon a lot of

3167
02:13:34,310 --> 02:13:32,219
energy to make it work so nuclear or

3168
02:13:36,169 --> 02:13:34,320
maybe something even more exotic that

3169
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:36,179
could pose a danger to the nearby City

3170
02:13:40,669 --> 02:13:38,400
or the motorists below it's basically

3171
02:13:42,530 --> 02:13:40,679
civilians as something we're not sure

3172
02:13:45,109 --> 02:13:42,540
humans are really capable of given the

3173
02:13:47,270 --> 02:13:45,119
dangers of fission reactors and events

3174
02:13:49,129 --> 02:13:47,280
like Chernobyl so to this day I remain

3175
02:13:50,930 --> 02:13:49,139
certain that what we saw was no

3176
02:13:52,430 --> 02:13:50,940
traditional aircraft that's ever been in

3177
02:13:54,410 --> 02:13:52,440
the public eye from its flight

3178
02:13:56,330 --> 02:13:54,420
characteristics to the quality of its

3179
02:13:58,250 --> 02:13:56,340
lighting to the surface material I

3180
02:13:59,750 --> 02:13:58,260
describe I've spent nearly 26 years

3181
02:14:01,790 --> 02:13:59,760
since that night searching the skies

3182
02:14:03,649 --> 02:14:01,800
hoping for another chance to see what I

3183
02:14:05,450 --> 02:14:03,659
saw again or something like it I

3184
02:14:07,550 --> 02:14:05,460
reported My Signing to the National UFO

3185
02:14:09,649 --> 02:14:07,560
Reporting Center a few years after the

3186
02:14:12,050 --> 02:14:09,659
event partly to ensure that I didn't

3187
02:14:13,490 --> 02:14:12,060
forget any details unfortunately I seem

3188
02:14:15,470 --> 02:14:13,500
to have been the only person who

3189
02:14:17,270 --> 02:14:15,480
experienced this event and reported it

3190
02:14:19,430 --> 02:14:17,280
at least if anyone's had a similar

3191
02:14:21,890 --> 02:14:19,440
experience I encourage you to share your

3192
02:14:22,970 --> 02:14:21,900
story with Ryan and the world if you'd

3193
02:14:25,250 --> 02:14:22,980
like to get in touch with me because

3194
02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:25,260
you've had a similar experience or maybe

3195
02:14:28,910 --> 02:14:26,880
you were even there that night and saw

3196
02:14:31,310 --> 02:14:28,920
the same thing that I did I'd love to

3197
02:14:33,229 --> 02:14:31,320
hear from you and Ryan has my details

3198
02:14:35,149 --> 02:14:33,239
thanks so much for the opportunity to

3199
02:14:37,550 --> 02:14:35,159
finally share my story with others Ryan

3200
02:14:39,410 --> 02:14:37,560
and for creating this amazing platform

3201
02:14:40,870 --> 02:14:39,420
where others can do the same keep

3202
02:14:44,089 --> 02:14:40,880
watching this guys

3203
02:14:46,430 --> 02:14:44,099
okay this is Ronnie LeBlanc from

3204
02:14:47,569 --> 02:14:46,440
Expedition Bigfoot and paranormal caught

3205
02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:47,579
on camera

3206
02:14:53,689 --> 02:14:50,400
uh some of you may know I've had a lot

3207
02:14:57,950 --> 02:14:53,699
of UFO experiences since I was a kid

3208
02:15:00,470 --> 02:14:57,960
and uh my wife has as well and so last

3209
02:15:04,010 --> 02:15:00,480
night uh this is the morning after

3210
02:15:07,790 --> 02:15:04,020
last night June 5th 9 45-ish

3211
02:15:09,290 --> 02:15:07,800
we were uh in our garage and we were

3212
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:09,300
talking

3213
02:15:15,050 --> 02:15:12,000
and I'll mention something in a moment

3214
02:15:17,209 --> 02:15:15,060
but we walked out and we're walking to

3215
02:15:18,410 --> 02:15:17,219
the house and I looked up above the roof

3216
02:15:20,689 --> 02:15:18,420
of the house

3217
02:15:24,410 --> 02:15:20,699
and there I saw

3218
02:15:27,050 --> 02:15:24,420
it was unmistakable two UFOs

3219
02:15:29,750 --> 02:15:27,060
unidentified flying objects one was red

3220
02:15:32,089 --> 02:15:29,760
one was green and not like a

3221
02:15:34,669 --> 02:15:32,099
a flying saucer

3222
02:15:37,550 --> 02:15:34,679
but almost like an orb that was kind of

3223
02:15:39,890 --> 02:15:37,560
shape-shifting and changing but these

3224
02:15:43,609 --> 02:15:39,900
things were chasing each other in the

3225
02:15:46,010 --> 02:15:43,619
sky uh up and down almost like dolphins

3226
02:15:49,250 --> 02:15:46,020
in the water and I just got this thought

3227
02:15:52,129 --> 02:15:49,260
of like Thunderbirds or almost a

3228
02:15:55,010 --> 02:15:52,139
biological creature more than a craft

3229
02:15:57,770 --> 02:15:55,020
seeing this so my wife is seeing this

3230
02:15:59,750 --> 02:15:57,780
she's trying to get her a phone and I

3231
02:16:01,490 --> 02:15:59,760
didn't want to film this at all I'm just

3232
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:01,500
experiencing this

3233
02:16:05,689 --> 02:16:02,639
um

3234
02:16:07,189 --> 02:16:05,699
they moved across and passed some trees

3235
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:07,199
so that we couldn't really see them but

3236
02:16:11,689 --> 02:16:08,880
they were low enough

3237
02:16:13,490 --> 02:16:11,699
and made no sound

3238
02:16:16,010 --> 02:16:13,500
uh low enough that you could see them

3239
02:16:17,870 --> 02:16:16,020
and know that this was not a drone this

3240
02:16:19,450 --> 02:16:17,880
was not a plane

3241
02:16:21,830 --> 02:16:19,460
this was

3242
02:16:24,649 --> 02:16:21,840
straight up UFOs

3243
02:16:28,270 --> 02:16:24,659
so what often happens in my experience

3244
02:16:30,290 --> 02:16:28,280
is a couple of things I started feeling

3245
02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:30,300
euphoric like

3246
02:16:33,950 --> 02:16:32,880
uh just super excited watching this

3247
02:16:37,429 --> 02:16:33,960
because I knew this was something

3248
02:16:40,009 --> 02:16:37,439
extraordinary but also when I have these

3249
02:16:42,290 --> 02:16:40,019
sightings typically there seems to be

3250
02:16:44,330 --> 02:16:42,300
almost like this uh you know I live

3251
02:16:46,370 --> 02:16:44,340
really close to Leominster State Forest

3252
02:16:49,009 --> 02:16:46,380
and Monsterland which my books are based

3253
02:16:51,110 --> 02:16:49,019
on with all this strange activity

3254
02:16:53,330 --> 02:16:51,120
but when we have a UFO sighting like

3255
02:16:55,910 --> 02:16:53,340
this typically there's another one or

3256
02:16:58,429 --> 02:16:55,920
several others that come in after this

3257
02:17:00,650 --> 02:16:58,439
one in the same trajectory so I started

3258
02:17:02,570 --> 02:17:00,660
talking to my wife like let's look where

3259
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:02,580
this came from it came from

3260
02:17:08,330 --> 02:17:07,200
um east to west in my estimation and uh

3261
02:17:10,549 --> 02:17:08,340
sure enough

3262
02:17:12,709 --> 02:17:10,559
another one came and this one was like

3263
02:17:16,009 --> 02:17:12,719
this bluish kind of green

3264
02:17:17,690 --> 02:17:16,019
it did the same thing it wasn't like up

3265
02:17:19,910 --> 02:17:17,700
and down like kind of changing direction

3266
02:17:23,690 --> 02:17:19,920
like this this last two

3267
02:17:25,730 --> 02:17:23,700
but it moved in the same way silent

3268
02:17:27,169 --> 02:17:25,740
it was spinning and you can hear me at

3269
02:17:29,389 --> 02:17:27,179
the beginning of the video

3270
02:17:32,629 --> 02:17:29,399
that was me talking about that that

3271
02:17:37,070 --> 02:17:32,639
second UFO coming in it was spinning and

3272
02:17:39,410 --> 02:17:37,080
like almost changing shape uh it was and

3273
02:17:41,450 --> 02:17:39,420
again it went the same way where it went

3274
02:17:44,089 --> 02:17:41,460
beyond some trees and I couldn't get it

3275
02:17:46,190 --> 02:17:44,099
unless I went deep in the backyard

3276
02:17:48,290 --> 02:17:46,200
and you can see we have some different

3277
02:17:50,270 --> 02:17:48,300
um lights out on the front of the

3278
02:17:52,910 --> 02:17:50,280
driveway it creates some light pollution

3279
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:52,920
but you could still see this

3280
02:17:58,969 --> 02:17:55,679
so then my wife finally gets her camera

3281
02:18:01,190 --> 02:17:58,979
up and we're looking in the path waiting

3282
02:18:03,950 --> 02:18:01,200
for another one to come and I I could

3283
02:18:06,169 --> 02:18:03,960
feel like it was coming uh which sounds

3284
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:06,179
crazy but anyways

3285
02:18:12,049 --> 02:18:08,399
here it comes and you can see it moving

3286
02:18:13,790 --> 02:18:12,059
and this one moved very differently just

3287
02:18:15,709 --> 02:18:13,800
like the other ones but differently than

3288
02:18:17,750 --> 02:18:15,719
any type of plane

3289
02:18:20,330 --> 02:18:17,760
or anything and you could see planes

3290
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:20,340
flying by we could see those it was very

3291
02:18:25,129 --> 02:18:23,280
uh distinctive what a plane was what a

3292
02:18:28,490 --> 02:18:25,139
drone is I know that stuff

3293
02:18:31,129 --> 02:18:28,500
so seeing this and it flew right over

3294
02:18:33,290 --> 02:18:31,139
our heads and the video really doesn't

3295
02:18:36,349 --> 02:18:33,300
give it any justice

3296
02:18:37,730 --> 02:18:36,359
um I I just it was green

3297
02:18:42,650 --> 02:18:37,740
um

3298
02:18:46,190 --> 02:18:42,660
okay so the crazy thing is a minute or

3299
02:18:49,270 --> 02:18:46,200
so before these sightings had occurred

3300
02:18:54,589 --> 02:18:49,280
as we're sitting in our garage my wife

3301
02:18:56,690 --> 02:18:54,599
was touched three times on her leg like

3302
02:19:00,049 --> 02:18:56,700
a ghost like she felt like something was

3303
02:19:01,370 --> 02:19:00,059
in the garage with us and I just kind of

3304
02:19:04,310 --> 02:19:01,380
chuckled and laughed and we're sitting

3305
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:04,320
close to each other uh I just kind of

3306
02:19:07,790 --> 02:19:06,240
laughed about it but this happened three

3307
02:19:10,009 --> 02:19:07,800
times

3308
02:19:14,270 --> 02:19:10,019
and isn't it significant that we saw

3309
02:19:15,589 --> 02:19:14,280
four UFOs three separate times one after

3310
02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:15,599
another

3311
02:19:20,270 --> 02:19:18,660
at this same time we were you know Blown

3312
02:19:21,950 --> 02:19:20,280
Away one of the most amazing things if

3313
02:19:23,330 --> 02:19:21,960
not the most amazing thing I've ever

3314
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:23,340
seen in my life

3315
02:19:27,530 --> 02:19:24,960
and that video does not give it freaking

3316
02:19:29,209 --> 02:19:27,540
justice but

3317
02:19:31,129 --> 02:19:29,219
after this had occurred and we're

3318
02:19:34,129 --> 02:19:31,139
outside and we're just like Blown Away

3319
02:19:36,349 --> 02:19:34,139
my head's spinning the energy was off

3320
02:19:38,209 --> 02:19:36,359
the charts and what I was feeling it was

3321
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:38,219
so exciting I wasn't afraid it was

3322
02:19:41,629 --> 02:19:39,439
exciting

3323
02:19:45,349 --> 02:19:41,639
uh my son

3324
02:19:47,629 --> 02:19:45,359
who's 10 years old was in the house

3325
02:19:49,070 --> 02:19:47,639
um and he said he felt a presence behind

3326
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:49,080
him

3327
02:19:53,690 --> 02:19:52,080
as we were kind of like

3328
02:19:57,170 --> 02:19:53,700
talking and stuff he could hear us from

3329
02:19:59,929 --> 02:19:57,180
outside as the UFO setting was happening

3330
02:20:01,730 --> 02:19:59,939
so I find that extremely significant I

3331
02:20:05,150 --> 02:20:01,740
also find it funny that my wife went

3332
02:20:07,090 --> 02:20:05,160
grocery shopping and picked up a deck of

3333
02:20:10,310 --> 02:20:07,100
cards

3334
02:20:11,870 --> 02:20:10,320
and as I was grabbing the the uh the

3335
02:20:14,090 --> 02:20:11,880
trash

3336
02:20:16,010 --> 02:20:14,100
uh one of these this deck of cards came

3337
02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:16,020
out and it was called Stargazer on it

3338
02:20:21,770 --> 02:20:18,479
and it's just kind of funny I always

3339
02:20:23,210 --> 02:20:21,780
look at signs and synchronicities and

3340
02:20:25,730 --> 02:20:23,220
this was one of those things and here we

3341
02:20:29,150 --> 02:20:25,740
are we have the UFO report that just

3342
02:20:31,550 --> 02:20:29,160
came out uh the government saying

3343
02:20:34,490 --> 02:20:31,560
these are not our technology that's

3344
02:20:35,750 --> 02:20:34,500
confirmed great step forward but again

3345
02:20:37,910 --> 02:20:35,760
they're not going to say that these

3346
02:20:42,830 --> 02:20:37,920
things are alien and I can tell you

3347
02:20:45,010 --> 02:20:42,840
right now what I saw uh was not human it

3348
02:20:48,710 --> 02:20:45,020
was not a physical

3349
02:20:51,830 --> 02:20:48,720
uh craft in a way like if it was where

3350
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:51,840
we're seeing portions of it like

3351
02:20:55,309 --> 02:20:53,760
it just seemed to shape-shift and change

3352
02:20:58,969 --> 02:20:55,319
and seem to be

3353
02:21:02,750 --> 02:20:58,979
more biological than than a physical

3354
02:21:04,849 --> 02:21:02,760
craft and I'm sure it was a craft of

3355
02:21:07,790 --> 02:21:04,859
some the way it moved was just

3356
02:21:10,190 --> 02:21:07,800
incredible there's no way a plane could

3357
02:21:12,830 --> 02:21:10,200
sustain these movements like I said it

3358
02:21:14,870 --> 02:21:12,840
looked like and I just grab it in the

3359
02:21:16,309 --> 02:21:14,880
video It Moves Like a Bird it seemed to

3360
02:21:18,290 --> 02:21:16,319
kind of like

3361
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:18,300
float and flutter and kind of change

3362
02:21:25,429 --> 02:21:21,359
direction and move very uh just

3363
02:21:28,010 --> 02:21:25,439
animalistic but I did file a uh mufon

3364
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:28,020
report last night within 20 minutes of

3365
02:21:31,910 --> 02:21:30,479
this as it was fresh but there's these

3366
02:21:33,530 --> 02:21:31,920
other details that I know will get

3367
02:21:37,550 --> 02:21:33,540
leaved out of the report

3368
02:21:40,130 --> 02:21:37,560
but they lead into the UFO sighting

3369
02:21:41,389 --> 02:21:40,140
having this paranormal experience oh and

3370
02:21:42,050 --> 02:21:41,399
by the way

3371
02:21:45,530 --> 02:21:42,060
um

3372
02:21:47,870 --> 02:21:45,540
I am getting back into meditating and

3373
02:21:49,969 --> 02:21:47,880
I'm focusing on remote viewing so

3374
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:49,979
earlier in the day I did have a

3375
02:21:55,790 --> 02:21:52,560
literally short five minute meditation

3376
02:21:57,710 --> 02:21:55,800
session trying to bring them in and I've

3377
02:22:00,950 --> 02:21:57,720
done this before a couple years ago at

3378
02:22:04,370 --> 02:22:00,960
Cape Cod and had orange orbs come in but

3379
02:22:06,889 --> 02:22:04,380
I've never had craft like this so now I

3380
02:22:09,290 --> 02:22:06,899
am just uh super intrigued I did not

3381
02:22:10,750 --> 02:22:09,300
want to go to sleep and I'm now I'm like

3382
02:22:14,090 --> 02:22:10,760
on fire

3383
02:22:17,210 --> 02:22:14,100
but yeah uh there's definitely a

3384
02:22:18,770 --> 02:22:17,220
spiritual a paranormal there's a

3385
02:22:22,309 --> 02:22:18,780
spiritual and a paranormal kind of

3386
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:22,319
connection to all of this because of

3387
02:22:28,550 --> 02:22:24,240
what happened prior the feeling of a

3388
02:22:31,910 --> 02:22:28,560
presence not only for my wife but my son

3389
02:22:35,210 --> 02:22:31,920
as uh before this happened and weirdly

3390
02:22:37,309 --> 02:22:35,220
enough the third UFO that came through

3391
02:22:39,650 --> 02:22:37,319
that looked very similar to the fourth

3392
02:22:41,389 --> 02:22:39,660
one kind of different coloring I got the

3393
02:22:44,030 --> 02:22:41,399
feeling it was the same one kind of

3394
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:44,040
coming in again to show us and my wife

3395
02:22:49,550 --> 02:22:46,080
had that same feeling

3396
02:22:51,410 --> 02:22:49,560
interesting stuff but uh there was a

3397
02:22:53,210 --> 02:22:51,420
report that someone saw something a

3398
02:22:56,090 --> 02:22:53,220
couple weeks ago in the same vicinity

3399
02:22:57,950 --> 02:22:56,100
and this was right in front of the Big

3400
02:22:59,570 --> 02:22:57,960
Dipper and that's where they said they

3401
02:23:04,389 --> 02:22:59,580
had their sighting as well so I find

3402
02:23:08,630 --> 02:23:06,230
hey Ryan

3403
02:23:11,210 --> 02:23:08,640
uh my name is jazz

3404
02:23:13,370 --> 02:23:11,220
you and I already know each other

3405
02:23:15,590 --> 02:23:13,380
for your latest installment of witness

3406
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:15,600
testimony

3407
02:23:20,330 --> 02:23:17,280
I decided to talk about something that

3408
02:23:22,610 --> 02:23:20,340
happened very recently

3409
02:23:25,610 --> 02:23:22,620
I went personally I've always been

3410
02:23:27,530 --> 02:23:25,620
interested in the whole UAP topic I've

3411
02:23:29,330 --> 02:23:27,540
been writing about it for years

3412
02:23:30,770 --> 02:23:29,340
but it's always been

3413
02:23:33,969 --> 02:23:30,780
sort of

3414
02:23:36,830 --> 02:23:33,979
hypothetical topic of great interest

3415
02:23:39,530 --> 02:23:36,840
and that started to change last year in

3416
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,540
November of last year uh my wife and I

3417
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:42,000
had two sightings that were not

3418
02:23:48,170 --> 02:23:46,319
really very conclusive uh it happened in

3419
02:23:48,889 --> 02:23:48,180
compared to one week

3420
02:23:51,170 --> 02:23:48,899
um

3421
02:23:53,690 --> 02:23:51,180
we saw a couple of things and filmed

3422
02:23:55,910 --> 02:23:53,700
them and put them up on YouTube not

3423
02:23:56,990 --> 02:23:55,920
really conclusive one of them was sort

3424
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:57,000
of a

3425
02:24:02,929 --> 02:23:59,760
orb of different changing colors

3426
02:24:03,950 --> 02:24:02,939
happened over a ridge to the east of our

3427
02:24:07,010 --> 02:24:03,960
house

3428
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:07,020
uh the second one my wife found that was

3429
02:24:11,150 --> 02:24:09,120
mortgage thing it looked kind of like a

3430
02:24:14,330 --> 02:24:11,160
really big triangle

3431
02:24:15,349 --> 02:24:14,340
in the dark with some weird lights on it

3432
02:24:18,770 --> 02:24:15,359
but again

3433
02:24:21,410 --> 02:24:18,780
nothing too conclusive that really

3434
02:24:24,330 --> 02:24:21,420
changed this year

3435
02:24:25,610 --> 02:24:24,340
I had two sightings personally

3436
02:24:26,990 --> 02:24:25,620
[Music]

3437
02:24:30,650 --> 02:24:27,000
that

3438
02:24:31,849 --> 02:24:30,660
really shook up my entire view of the

3439
02:24:34,870 --> 02:24:31,859
whole subject

3440
02:24:37,790 --> 02:24:34,880
in June of 2021

3441
02:24:39,889 --> 02:24:37,800
third week of June I was out on the back

3442
02:24:41,510 --> 02:24:39,899
deck of my house middle of the day

3443
02:24:45,050 --> 02:24:41,520
beautiful day

3444
02:24:48,230 --> 02:24:45,060
Blue Sky a few fluffy clouds

3445
02:24:49,550 --> 02:24:48,240
and I was watching two planes from a

3446
02:24:51,889 --> 02:24:49,560
local Airport

3447
02:24:53,570 --> 02:24:51,899
going overhead which happens every day

3448
02:24:55,570 --> 02:24:53,580
because we're not too far from a

3449
02:24:58,130 --> 02:24:55,580
Regional Airport

3450
02:25:00,590 --> 02:24:58,140
going east west

3451
02:25:02,570 --> 02:25:00,600
but underneath them

3452
02:25:05,750 --> 02:25:02,580
well below them

3453
02:25:07,610 --> 02:25:05,760
and Below Cloud level I suddenly saw

3454
02:25:12,290 --> 02:25:07,620
something else

3455
02:25:14,170 --> 02:25:12,300
it was a white oblong shape

3456
02:25:16,309 --> 02:25:14,180
is that

3457
02:25:18,830 --> 02:25:16,319
everybody who follows the subject

3458
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:18,840
already knows I I immediately well

3459
02:25:23,450 --> 02:25:21,120
within a couple of seconds I thought

3460
02:25:25,610 --> 02:25:23,460
holy cow that's a Tic Tac

3461
02:25:29,210 --> 02:25:25,620
because it had no wings nothing else it

3462
02:25:32,809 --> 02:25:29,220
was just silently gliding along

3463
02:25:35,929 --> 02:25:32,819
and I immediately reached from my pocket

3464
02:25:38,570 --> 02:25:35,939
to grab my phone to get a video

3465
02:25:41,389 --> 02:25:38,580
thereupon realizing that my phone which

3466
02:25:44,990 --> 02:25:41,399
had been at like 15 or something

3467
02:25:46,969 --> 02:25:45,000
was in my Den recharging I went crashing

3468
02:25:49,250 --> 02:25:46,979
through the house screaming for my wife

3469
02:25:51,170 --> 02:25:49,260
to grab her phone and run out front

3470
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:51,180
to catch it on the other side as it went

3471
02:25:57,349 --> 02:25:55,200
by and she did later telling me she was

3472
02:25:59,210 --> 02:25:57,359
worried that I

3473
02:26:01,610 --> 02:25:59,220
she was afraid the house was on fire or

3474
02:26:05,950 --> 02:26:04,910
um we got out front and she said that

3475
02:26:08,630 --> 02:26:05,960
she

3476
02:26:09,650 --> 02:26:08,640
momentarily saw might have seen

3477
02:26:12,110 --> 02:26:09,660
something

3478
02:26:14,990 --> 02:26:12,120
white in the sky

3479
02:26:18,530 --> 02:26:15,000
but didn't catch anything else

3480
02:26:20,270 --> 02:26:18,540
I got 19 minutes of beautiful footage of

3481
02:26:23,270 --> 02:26:20,280
a blue sky with nothing in it it had

3482
02:26:26,330 --> 02:26:23,280
disappeared but before I crashed through

3483
02:26:28,870 --> 02:26:26,340
the house I mean it was there it was

3484
02:26:30,889 --> 02:26:28,880
very clear it was obviously just this

3485
02:26:32,270 --> 02:26:30,899
capsule-shaped thing that was going

3486
02:26:33,830 --> 02:26:32,280
across the sky

3487
02:26:36,650 --> 02:26:33,840
that disappeared

3488
02:26:39,410 --> 02:26:36,660
that had a big impact on us because it

3489
02:26:41,630 --> 02:26:39,420
sort of sent me on this

3490
02:26:43,790 --> 02:26:41,640
negative spiral of being out there all

3491
02:26:47,090 --> 02:26:43,800
the time watching and wanting her to be

3492
02:26:49,250 --> 02:26:47,100
out there when she was home you know and

3493
02:26:52,969 --> 02:26:49,260
nothing else happened

3494
02:26:54,889 --> 02:26:52,979
until the past week and at the time of

3495
02:26:58,370 --> 02:26:54,899
this recording were

3496
02:27:00,290 --> 02:26:58,380
talking about the beginning of August

3497
02:27:02,090 --> 02:27:00,300
of 2021

3498
02:27:03,770 --> 02:27:02,100
and I was once again out of my back deck

3499
02:27:06,050 --> 02:27:03,780
and

3500
02:27:08,809 --> 02:27:06,060
the exact same thing showed up in the

3501
02:27:12,469 --> 02:27:08,819
sky there were no planes at the time

3502
02:27:16,010 --> 02:27:12,479
but it was again this oblong shape

3503
02:27:18,670 --> 02:27:16,020
that was traveling from west to east

3504
02:27:21,650 --> 02:27:18,680
a little ways to the north of my house

3505
02:27:23,630 --> 02:27:21,660
you know pretty much right above us

3506
02:27:25,070 --> 02:27:23,640
and this time I had my phone and I

3507
02:27:28,010 --> 02:27:25,080
pulled it out and I got

3508
02:27:29,750 --> 02:27:28,020
it it took probably five six seconds to

3509
02:27:31,130 --> 02:27:29,760
register and then get the phone out and

3510
02:27:33,230 --> 02:27:31,140
start recording

3511
02:27:34,610 --> 02:27:33,240
but I did manage to get three to four

3512
02:27:38,330 --> 02:27:34,620
seconds

3513
02:27:40,610 --> 02:27:38,340
recorded that a videographer

3514
02:27:43,429 --> 02:27:40,620
took for me and got the source code

3515
02:27:46,130 --> 02:27:43,439
from my phone and

3516
02:27:48,110 --> 02:27:46,140
it was once again it was this object

3517
02:27:51,469 --> 02:27:48,120
that looked like a Tic Tac

3518
02:27:53,090 --> 02:27:51,479
and it had been moving but by the time I

3519
02:27:56,030 --> 02:27:53,100
got the phone out and the videographer

3520
02:28:00,530 --> 02:27:56,040
confirmed this it just stopped

3521
02:28:01,849 --> 02:28:00,540
and it was just hanging there in the sky

3522
02:28:04,190 --> 02:28:01,859
and

3523
02:28:06,469 --> 02:28:04,200
I managed to film it for like I said

3524
02:28:08,510 --> 02:28:06,479
three to four seconds and while I still

3525
02:28:10,190 --> 02:28:08,520
had the phone pointed at it and

3526
02:28:12,170 --> 02:28:10,200
recording it

3527
02:28:14,690 --> 02:28:12,180
it disappeared

3528
02:28:17,630 --> 02:28:14,700
it didn't fly away

3529
02:28:20,450 --> 02:28:17,640
it looked to me it doesn't really show

3530
02:28:22,370 --> 02:28:20,460
up on what there is in the video

3531
02:28:24,650 --> 02:28:22,380
but visually it looked like it had

3532
02:28:27,710 --> 02:28:24,660
started to elongate a bit like it became

3533
02:28:29,330 --> 02:28:27,720
a bit longer I I don't know that's just

3534
02:28:31,849 --> 02:28:29,340
my memory

3535
02:28:33,950 --> 02:28:31,859
and then it just

3536
02:28:35,809 --> 02:28:33,960
in less than a second it just faded out

3537
02:28:39,250 --> 02:28:35,819
it vanished

3538
02:28:41,990 --> 02:28:39,260
so that was twice I saw these objects

3539
02:28:46,250 --> 02:28:42,000
sailing across the sky

3540
02:28:48,349 --> 02:28:46,260
that have no explanation for me

3541
02:28:50,450 --> 02:28:48,359
and prior to this I was always

3542
02:28:52,429 --> 02:28:50,460
interested as I said in the topic and

3543
02:28:54,889 --> 02:28:52,439
it's like people see all these wild

3544
02:28:57,710 --> 02:28:54,899
things and it's really crazy and it's

3545
02:29:01,190 --> 02:28:57,720
fun to talk about and

3546
02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:01,200
but it it was a significant moment it's

3547
02:29:05,870 --> 02:29:03,840
really changed things in our house and

3548
02:29:09,469 --> 02:29:05,880
in our life because

3549
02:29:13,250 --> 02:29:09,479
it goes from a hypothetical discussion

3550
02:29:16,010 --> 02:29:13,260
to the point where now it's like

3551
02:29:17,630 --> 02:29:16,020
what was that nothing should be able to

3552
02:29:21,050 --> 02:29:17,640
do that

3553
02:29:24,650 --> 02:29:21,060
it it seemed impossible

3554
02:29:27,349 --> 02:29:24,660
and it it really has changed my outlook

3555
02:29:29,510 --> 02:29:27,359
on this so

3556
02:29:31,010 --> 02:29:29,520
since you like doing these shows and

3557
02:29:32,510 --> 02:29:31,020
people sharing their experiences this

3558
02:29:34,849 --> 02:29:32,520
was a

3559
02:29:36,650 --> 02:29:34,859
in a significant way I will say a

3560
02:29:37,849 --> 02:29:36,660
somewhat life-changing experience

3561
02:29:40,910 --> 02:29:37,859
because

3562
02:29:42,530 --> 02:29:40,920
I'm no longer looking at it as well what

3563
02:29:44,570 --> 02:29:42,540
are these people talking about and it's

3564
02:29:45,889 --> 02:29:44,580
like oh I get it

3565
02:29:48,710 --> 02:29:45,899
I say

3566
02:29:50,389 --> 02:29:48,720
okay and now it's real

3567
02:29:53,210 --> 02:29:50,399
doesn't mean I know what the answers are

3568
02:29:54,170 --> 02:29:53,220
I I don't know what it was where it came

3569
02:29:55,550 --> 02:29:54,180
from

3570
02:29:57,469 --> 02:29:55,560
but that was something that definitely

3571
02:30:00,110 --> 02:29:57,479
shouldn't have been there it shouldn't

3572
02:30:03,170 --> 02:30:00,120
have been doing what it was doing

3573
02:30:04,790 --> 02:30:03,180
and it's really opened my eyes in a

3574
02:30:08,870 --> 02:30:04,800
number of ways

3575
02:30:13,010 --> 02:30:11,030
hi Ryan thanks for allowing us to share

3576
02:30:15,050 --> 02:30:13,020
our stories with you I have personal

3577
02:30:17,809 --> 02:30:15,060
experience two separate sightings of the

3578
02:30:19,370 --> 02:30:17,819
same Red Orb in my childhood once when I

3579
02:30:21,950 --> 02:30:19,380
was very young and once again as a

3580
02:30:23,809 --> 02:30:21,960
teenager both instances occurred on the

3581
02:30:25,969 --> 02:30:23,819
same property in rural Minnesota

3582
02:30:28,190 --> 02:30:25,979
my first experience was when I was about

3583
02:30:29,630 --> 02:30:28,200
five or six years old it was maybe nine

3584
02:30:31,250 --> 02:30:29,640
or ten o'clock at night and my mother

3585
02:30:33,110 --> 02:30:31,260
and baby sister were sleeping in my

3586
02:30:34,969 --> 02:30:33,120
parents room but I was still awake to

3587
02:30:35,870 --> 02:30:34,979
wait up for my father to come home from

3588
02:30:37,969 --> 02:30:35,880
work

3589
02:30:39,349 --> 02:30:37,979
it was either late spring or summer and

3590
02:30:40,790 --> 02:30:39,359
I was watching out the window for my

3591
02:30:43,190 --> 02:30:40,800
father's vehicle to come up the county

3592
02:30:44,510 --> 02:30:43,200
road that leads to our driveway the

3593
02:30:46,250 --> 02:30:44,520
lights were off because I didn't want to

3594
02:30:48,050 --> 02:30:46,260
wake up my mother so I was standing in a

3595
02:30:49,969 --> 02:30:48,060
completely dark room looking out over a

3596
02:30:52,490 --> 02:30:49,979
completely dark landscape

3597
02:30:55,010 --> 02:30:52,500
I remember not being afraid but

3598
02:30:57,469 --> 02:30:55,020
immediately curious about this large Red

3599
02:30:58,849 --> 02:30:57,479
Orb that appeared to ascend out of a

3600
02:31:01,309 --> 02:30:58,859
distant field

3601
02:31:03,290 --> 02:31:01,319
this window faces roughly Northeast and

3602
02:31:05,330 --> 02:31:03,300
the area is so rural that there are no

3603
02:31:06,889 --> 02:31:05,340
City Lights whatsoever just Farmers

3604
02:31:08,690 --> 02:31:06,899
fields and woods

3605
02:31:10,910 --> 02:31:08,700
we have the most beautiful clear skies

3606
02:31:12,889 --> 02:31:10,920
in rural Minnesota in an immensely

3607
02:31:14,690 --> 02:31:12,899
gorgeous view of the Milky Way the right

3608
02:31:16,730 --> 02:31:14,700
night the right time of year

3609
02:31:18,170 --> 02:31:16,740
I usually stayed up as late as I could

3610
02:31:19,610 --> 02:31:18,180
for my father to come home so this

3611
02:31:21,530 --> 02:31:19,620
wasn't a strange thing to wait by the

3612
02:31:23,450 --> 02:31:21,540
window where I could see the road

3613
02:31:24,650 --> 02:31:23,460
but I had never witnessed a Red Orb

3614
02:31:26,690 --> 02:31:24,660
before

3615
02:31:28,910 --> 02:31:26,700
it didn't have a definitive shape

3616
02:31:31,370 --> 02:31:28,920
besides vaguely round but it definitely

3617
02:31:33,469 --> 02:31:31,380
didn't come up over the horizon this red

3618
02:31:36,110 --> 02:31:33,479
light really did seem large and bright

3619
02:31:38,030 --> 02:31:36,120
and ascending out of a farmer's field at

3620
02:31:40,130 --> 02:31:38,040
minimum a few miles away

3621
02:31:42,650 --> 02:31:40,140
they moved relatively quickly too and

3622
02:31:44,270 --> 02:31:42,660
steady as it went up into the sky

3623
02:31:45,770 --> 02:31:44,280
it may have only taken a minute or two

3624
02:31:47,450 --> 02:31:45,780
to completely disappear at the steady

3625
02:31:49,370 --> 02:31:47,460
Pace that was traveling

3626
02:31:51,889 --> 02:31:49,380
again I wasn't afraid but I do recall

3627
02:31:53,929 --> 02:31:51,899
how Vivid the experience was watching

3628
02:31:55,309 --> 02:31:53,939
this large red light while standing at

3629
02:31:57,230 --> 02:31:55,319
the window

3630
02:31:59,090 --> 02:31:57,240
one specific thing about this encounter

3631
02:32:00,650 --> 02:31:59,100
that I remember telling to my father

3632
02:32:02,210 --> 02:32:00,660
when he arrived home a short time later

3633
02:32:04,730 --> 02:32:02,220
was that I thought it could have been an

3634
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:04,740
air balloon because it seemed to Glow

3635
02:32:09,349 --> 02:32:07,200
with you know from within it didn't very

3636
02:32:11,870 --> 02:32:09,359
coarse it didn't change speeds or colors

3637
02:32:13,250 --> 02:32:11,880
rapidly didn't change speeder colors at

3638
02:32:15,530 --> 02:32:13,260
all it just seemed to drift up

3639
02:32:17,690 --> 02:32:15,540
completely straight into the sky until

3640
02:32:19,969 --> 02:32:17,700
it disappeared entirely

3641
02:32:21,650 --> 02:32:19,979
I waited for that orb for a very long

3642
02:32:23,630 --> 02:32:21,660
time after that but I didn't see it

3643
02:32:25,130 --> 02:32:23,640
again until I was a teenager in the

3644
02:32:26,630 --> 02:32:25,140
early 2000s

3645
02:32:28,130 --> 02:32:26,640
my sister and I didn't want to keep

3646
02:32:30,110 --> 02:32:28,140
sharing a bedroom but my room downstairs

3647
02:32:31,670 --> 02:32:30,120
in the basement wasn't finished yet so I

3648
02:32:33,590 --> 02:32:31,680
slept on the couch the majority of one

3649
02:32:35,090 --> 02:32:33,600
summer and I really liked it actually

3650
02:32:37,010 --> 02:32:35,100
because I could look out of a large

3651
02:32:38,330 --> 02:32:37,020
picture window Facing East while I was

3652
02:32:40,969 --> 02:32:38,340
resting on the couch

3653
02:32:42,889 --> 02:32:40,979
again no City Lights just Farmers fields

3654
02:32:45,170 --> 02:32:42,899
and strips of woods with one County Road

3655
02:32:46,969 --> 02:32:45,180
to which our driveway was attached no

3656
02:32:48,590 --> 02:32:46,979
light absolutely no light whatsoever

3657
02:32:50,690 --> 02:32:48,600
besides Starlight

3658
02:32:52,790 --> 02:32:50,700
in this particular night I was almost

3659
02:32:55,130 --> 02:32:52,800
asleep still looking out the window

3660
02:32:57,950 --> 02:32:55,140
though when I saw a large Red Orb Again

3661
02:32:59,929 --> 02:32:57,960
Begin to ascend out of a tree line just

3662
02:33:02,270 --> 02:32:59,939
a few miles away from the house

3663
02:33:04,490 --> 02:33:02,280
this time I was really spooked over the

3664
02:33:05,690 --> 02:33:04,500
years since I saw that first Red Orb my

3665
02:33:07,190 --> 02:33:05,700
father and I would talk about it

3666
02:33:08,270 --> 02:33:07,200
sometimes and wonder what that could

3667
02:33:09,889 --> 02:33:08,280
have been

3668
02:33:11,450 --> 02:33:09,899
the rest of the house was asleep but I

3669
02:33:12,830 --> 02:33:11,460
bolted off the couch and went to wake up

3670
02:33:15,230 --> 02:33:12,840
my father who wasn't thrilled about

3671
02:33:16,670 --> 02:33:15,240
being woken up but I knew I sounded

3672
02:33:18,170 --> 02:33:16,680
panicked enough that he did come into

3673
02:33:20,270 --> 02:33:18,180
the living room to take a look out the

3674
02:33:21,950 --> 02:33:20,280
window I remember being worried that he

3675
02:33:24,050 --> 02:33:21,960
wouldn't come fast enough to see the

3676
02:33:25,790 --> 02:33:24,060
light before it disappeared

3677
02:33:27,230 --> 02:33:25,800
in the time it took between when I first

3678
02:33:28,910 --> 02:33:27,240
saw it coming out of the tree line to

3679
02:33:30,889 --> 02:33:28,920
when I got back to the window after

3680
02:33:32,330 --> 02:33:30,899
waking up my father it had ascended

3681
02:33:34,730 --> 02:33:32,340
quite high already

3682
02:33:36,590 --> 02:33:34,740
we watched together for the minute or so

3683
02:33:38,809 --> 02:33:36,600
that I continued to ascend before it

3684
02:33:40,250 --> 02:33:38,819
completely disappeared we watched it in

3685
02:33:42,050 --> 02:33:40,260
silence and it was a really special

3686
02:33:43,070 --> 02:33:42,060
moment in a way to see this with my

3687
02:33:44,690 --> 02:33:43,080
father

3688
02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:44,700
the sighting became kind of a family

3689
02:33:48,170 --> 02:33:46,560
joke though in a good way because his

3690
02:33:49,730 --> 02:33:48,180
reaction after the orb finally

3691
02:33:52,610 --> 02:33:49,740
disappeared in Our Moment of shared

3692
02:33:55,309 --> 02:33:52,620
silence was I don't know what that was

3693
02:33:56,870 --> 02:33:55,319
go to sleep this is how we all laugh

3694
02:33:58,790 --> 02:33:56,880
about it to this day that here I had

3695
02:34:00,710 --> 02:33:58,800
this kind of shocking encounter with the

3696
02:34:03,469 --> 02:34:00,720
Red Orb again years after my first

3697
02:34:05,510 --> 02:34:03,479
sighting and my father's reaction was go

3698
02:34:08,030 --> 02:34:05,520
to sleep after an I don't know what that

3699
02:34:09,950 --> 02:34:08,040
was my father knows pretty much

3700
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:09,960
everything about the property I grew up

3701
02:34:14,090 --> 02:34:11,760
on because he grew up on the same land

3702
02:34:15,889 --> 02:34:14,100
he knows the woods in the fields better

3703
02:34:17,389 --> 02:34:15,899
than anyone else in this area and he

3704
02:34:19,910 --> 02:34:17,399
could probably find his way home in the

3705
02:34:22,190 --> 02:34:19,920
dark for miles away he's seen it all

3706
02:34:23,330 --> 02:34:22,200
and here was a thing he didn't know how

3707
02:34:25,190 --> 02:34:23,340
to explain

3708
02:34:27,170 --> 02:34:25,200
I didn't bother him the way it bothered

3709
02:34:29,389 --> 02:34:27,180
me though he went back to bed and I went

3710
02:34:30,950 --> 02:34:29,399
back to the couch and I know I did not

3711
02:34:33,110 --> 02:34:30,960
sleep the rest of the night

3712
02:34:35,270 --> 02:34:33,120
and to the day I moved out and moved

3713
02:34:36,830 --> 02:34:35,280
away I watched for that Red Orb

3714
02:34:39,050 --> 02:34:36,840
I still check up on the reports from

3715
02:34:41,570 --> 02:34:39,060
that region once in a while and red orbs

3716
02:34:43,670 --> 02:34:41,580
and black triangles are apparently

3717
02:34:45,590 --> 02:34:43,680
pretty common sightings out there

3718
02:34:47,450 --> 02:34:45,600
the second encounter felt very different

3719
02:34:49,070 --> 02:34:47,460
from my first even though the Red Orb

3720
02:34:51,469 --> 02:34:49,080
was practically identical in both

3721
02:34:54,110 --> 02:34:51,479
situations I think I saw the Red Orb

3722
02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:54,120
with a true sense of childlike wonder

3723
02:34:57,650 --> 02:34:56,160
the first time that here was this

3724
02:34:59,150 --> 02:34:57,660
strange thing that it never happened

3725
02:35:00,469 --> 02:34:59,160
before and didn't happen again until

3726
02:35:02,809 --> 02:35:00,479
years later

3727
02:35:05,030 --> 02:35:02,819
the second sighting of the Red Orb was

3728
02:35:06,410 --> 02:35:05,040
frightening I was legitimately afraid of

3729
02:35:08,030 --> 02:35:06,420
it because I think I had spent years

3730
02:35:10,010 --> 02:35:08,040
wondering if it would come back and then

3731
02:35:11,510 --> 02:35:10,020
there it was unexpectedly

3732
02:35:13,670 --> 02:35:11,520
because of living in the country and

3733
02:35:15,410 --> 02:35:13,680
loving stargazing I had read plenty of

3734
02:35:16,969 --> 02:35:15,420
books in the library about stars and

3735
02:35:19,370 --> 02:35:16,979
planets and knew how certain things

3736
02:35:21,170 --> 02:35:19,380
moved in the sky if you watch the sky

3737
02:35:22,849 --> 02:35:21,180
every night you know how fast or slow

3738
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:22,859
normal things are and what to expect

3739
02:35:27,530 --> 02:35:25,200
throughout the seasons this was

3740
02:35:29,150 --> 02:35:27,540
definitely unlike any Star Planet I was

3741
02:35:30,590 --> 02:35:29,160
used to watching and I looked out at

3742
02:35:31,790 --> 02:35:30,600
that Sky nearly every night of my

3743
02:35:33,530 --> 02:35:31,800
childhood

3744
02:35:35,809 --> 02:35:33,540
I don't think it helped that I had been

3745
02:35:38,389 --> 02:35:35,819
rereading and rereading and rereading

3746
02:35:40,550 --> 02:35:38,399
the same book about UFOs as a kid years

3747
02:35:42,770 --> 02:35:40,560
after my first sighting but well before

3748
02:35:44,450 --> 02:35:42,780
my second and my father had asked me

3749
02:35:47,030 --> 02:35:44,460
what if they're not here to do good

3750
02:35:49,130 --> 02:35:47,040
things these things in the UFOs people

3751
02:35:51,290 --> 02:35:49,140
don't always have good experiences with

3752
02:35:53,090 --> 02:35:51,300
them and I think that shifted my

3753
02:35:54,950 --> 02:35:53,100
perspective that then influenced my

3754
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,960
reaction when I did finally see that red

3755
02:35:59,090 --> 02:35:56,880
ore begin as a teenager

3756
02:36:01,370 --> 02:35:59,100
my grandfather well before I was born

3757
02:36:03,590 --> 02:36:01,380
allegedly saw a strange object emerge

3758
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:03,600
from a field relatively close by

3759
02:36:06,770 --> 02:36:05,280
he was looking out over the woods after

3760
02:36:08,210 --> 02:36:06,780
coming back from the fields in the early

3761
02:36:09,170 --> 02:36:08,220
evening and saw something he couldn't

3762
02:36:10,910 --> 02:36:09,180
explain

3763
02:36:12,469 --> 02:36:10,920
once my father pointed out the part of

3764
02:36:14,630 --> 02:36:12,479
the property my grandfather thought this

3765
02:36:16,730 --> 02:36:14,640
thing emerged from I couldn't walk by it

3766
02:36:18,770 --> 02:36:16,740
or drive by it without thinking about it

3767
02:36:20,630 --> 02:36:18,780
my father himself has shared some

3768
02:36:22,670 --> 02:36:20,640
strange sightings he's had in his life

3769
02:36:23,929 --> 02:36:22,680
on this property he said he didn't tell

3770
02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:23,939
me when I was a child because he didn't

3771
02:36:27,170 --> 02:36:25,200
want to scare me

3772
02:36:28,250 --> 02:36:27,180
they're not my stories to tell but at

3773
02:36:29,990 --> 02:36:28,260
least I'm assured I'm not the only

3774
02:36:31,849 --> 02:36:30,000
member of my family to see things we

3775
02:36:33,349 --> 02:36:31,859
couldn't explain thank you for the

3776
02:36:34,730 --> 02:36:33,359
opportunity to share my stories and

3777
02:36:37,849 --> 02:36:34,740
thank you for the wonderful podcast we

3778
02:36:42,889 --> 02:36:40,429
my name is Abe alley I've told this

3779
02:36:45,170 --> 02:36:42,899
story a few times in my life and there

3780
02:36:47,030 --> 02:36:45,180
this is the the craziest thing that's

3781
02:36:49,250 --> 02:36:47,040
ever happened to me so I want to share

3782
02:36:52,370 --> 02:36:49,260
it with everybody and everything else in

3783
02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:52,380
between so back in 1992

3784
02:36:56,570 --> 02:36:55,439
I was going to be 10 years old in

3785
02:36:59,510 --> 02:36:56,580
December

3786
02:37:01,309 --> 02:36:59,520
so I was nine years old at the time

3787
02:37:06,889 --> 02:37:01,319
and

3788
02:37:09,950 --> 02:37:06,899
it was a crisp fall evening I'm not sure

3789
02:37:13,849 --> 02:37:09,960
if it was like in August or a September

3790
02:37:15,429 --> 02:37:13,859
night but my dad used to like take in me

3791
02:37:17,210 --> 02:37:15,439
and my brother for

3792
02:37:18,889 --> 02:37:17,220
Joyrides

3793
02:37:21,110 --> 02:37:18,899
in the evening

3794
02:37:26,270 --> 02:37:21,120
and when I say the evening I'm talking

3795
02:37:28,849 --> 02:37:26,280
about 9 30 10 30 P.M

3796
02:37:30,710 --> 02:37:28,859
and he always liked to you know just

3797
02:37:32,030 --> 02:37:30,720
talk to us and

3798
02:37:34,790 --> 02:37:32,040
you know because it was just me and my

3799
02:37:36,889 --> 02:37:34,800
brother and uh you know I guess that was

3800
02:37:37,730 --> 02:37:36,899
a good way of kind of spending time with

3801
02:37:40,790 --> 02:37:37,740
Dad

3802
02:37:42,889 --> 02:37:40,800
but this one evening my brother was

3803
02:37:45,110 --> 02:37:42,899
sitting in the front seat with my dad

3804
02:37:46,010 --> 02:37:45,120
and I was sitting in the back seat of

3805
02:37:50,330 --> 02:37:46,020
the car

3806
02:37:52,670 --> 02:37:50,340
and we took a ride down to Cape split

3807
02:37:55,809 --> 02:37:52,680
um I'm from the great state of Maine and

3808
02:37:58,190 --> 02:37:55,819
Cape split is right on the coast

3809
02:38:01,070 --> 02:37:58,200
Atlantic Ocean of Maine

3810
02:38:04,610 --> 02:38:01,080
and this is where we were

3811
02:38:06,889 --> 02:38:04,620
I grew up in a lobster fishing community

3812
02:38:10,130 --> 02:38:06,899
so we were taking a ride and we were

3813
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:10,140
parked right on the shoreline there was

3814
02:38:15,230 --> 02:38:13,439
a turnout in Cape split so we were

3815
02:38:19,510 --> 02:38:15,240
sitting there in the car

3816
02:38:22,849 --> 02:38:19,520
and I remember the radio turning static

3817
02:38:25,670 --> 02:38:22,859
and my father was looking out over the

3818
02:38:30,110 --> 02:38:25,680
ocean and there were three islands wide

3819
02:38:31,730 --> 02:38:30,120
open ocean bright night no clouds

3820
02:38:33,410 --> 02:38:31,740
and

3821
02:38:36,410 --> 02:38:33,420
my dad

3822
02:38:38,990 --> 02:38:36,420
was telling us to look over to the left

3823
02:38:41,450 --> 02:38:39,000
because there were these two Bright

3824
02:38:44,450 --> 02:38:41,460
Lights coming up over the center Island

3825
02:38:46,670 --> 02:38:44,460
there were three islands these two

3826
02:38:47,929 --> 02:38:46,680
bright lights were coming up over the

3827
02:38:52,550 --> 02:38:47,939
islands

3828
02:38:55,309 --> 02:38:52,560
from us

3829
02:38:57,650 --> 02:38:55,319
I still have the image in my head my

3830
02:38:59,090 --> 02:38:57,660
father had the window rolled down all

3831
02:39:01,670 --> 02:38:59,100
the way

3832
02:39:04,429 --> 02:39:01,680
there was no sound

3833
02:39:07,610 --> 02:39:04,439
just obviously the waves crashing on to

3834
02:39:10,910 --> 02:39:07,620
the rocks and on the sand beach

3835
02:39:14,150 --> 02:39:10,920
a typical Atlantic Ocean sound

3836
02:39:15,230 --> 02:39:14,160
and I remember my brother started to go

3837
02:39:18,530 --> 02:39:15,240
crazy

3838
02:39:20,690 --> 02:39:18,540
in the front seat because I don't know

3839
02:39:23,690 --> 02:39:20,700
if he was scared I don't know what was

3840
02:39:25,969 --> 02:39:23,700
going on but he started like kicking and

3841
02:39:27,710 --> 02:39:25,979
screaming and punching the window and

3842
02:39:30,830 --> 02:39:27,720
all kinds of stuff

3843
02:39:32,809 --> 02:39:30,840
my dad was telling him calm down calm

3844
02:39:35,929 --> 02:39:32,819
down you know calm down

3845
02:39:37,990 --> 02:39:35,939
relax relax relax calm down BJ BJ that's

3846
02:39:39,889 --> 02:39:38,000
his name that's my brother's name BJ

3847
02:39:42,710 --> 02:39:39,899
Bernard Jr

3848
02:39:45,230 --> 02:39:42,720
and the radio was static

3849
02:39:46,910 --> 02:39:45,240
it wasn't static before this

3850
02:39:48,710 --> 02:39:46,920
but when I looked and saw these two

3851
02:39:51,530 --> 02:39:48,720
Bright Lights hovering over this island

3852
02:39:54,770 --> 02:39:51,540
the radio went static

3853
02:39:57,950 --> 02:39:54,780
so I was intrigued nine years old

3854
02:39:59,570 --> 02:39:57,960
what a what was I looking at what were

3855
02:40:03,110 --> 02:39:59,580
we seeing

3856
02:40:04,610 --> 02:40:03,120
like I said there wasn't any sound we

3857
02:40:08,570 --> 02:40:04,620
sat there and watched these things for

3858
02:40:11,389 --> 02:40:08,580
probably 10 to 15 minutes if you know

3859
02:40:13,389 --> 02:40:11,399
as much as I can recall this was back in

3860
02:40:16,130 --> 02:40:13,399
1992 so

3861
02:40:17,450 --> 02:40:16,140
almost 30 years ago

3862
02:40:26,030 --> 02:40:17,460
and

3863
02:40:28,730 --> 02:40:26,040
but then they started going up the the

3864
02:40:30,410 --> 02:40:28,740
river the Addison River

3865
02:40:32,150 --> 02:40:30,420
Pleasant River

3866
02:40:36,770 --> 02:40:32,160
I guess you could call it

3867
02:40:39,230 --> 02:40:36,780
and so we decided to follow these things

3868
02:40:41,330 --> 02:40:39,240
I remember looking down

3869
02:40:45,050 --> 02:40:41,340
at the speedometer

3870
02:40:46,849 --> 02:40:45,060
and we were going like 75 miles an hour

3871
02:40:47,809 --> 02:40:46,859
and my dad couldn't catch up with these

3872
02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:47,819
things

3873
02:40:53,330 --> 02:40:51,359
so we were going pretty fast and these

3874
02:40:55,849 --> 02:40:53,340
things were moving pretty good

3875
02:40:58,670 --> 02:40:55,859
I remember seeing these Bright Lights

3876
02:41:00,110 --> 02:40:58,680
through the trees when we were on the

3877
02:41:02,210 --> 02:41:00,120
Basin Road

3878
02:41:05,030 --> 02:41:02,220
I remember looking out and kind of

3879
02:41:07,790 --> 02:41:05,040
seeing the lights

3880
02:41:09,290 --> 02:41:07,800
through the trees every once in a while

3881
02:41:12,770 --> 02:41:09,300
and then we

3882
02:41:15,349 --> 02:41:12,780
came up to the Addison Bridge

3883
02:41:18,110 --> 02:41:15,359
which was about four miles away from

3884
02:41:23,210 --> 02:41:18,120
Cape split maybe five

3885
02:41:24,889 --> 02:41:23,220
and we came up to the Addison bridge and

3886
02:41:28,070 --> 02:41:24,899
parked there

3887
02:41:30,290 --> 02:41:28,080
I remember my father opened the door and

3888
02:41:31,910 --> 02:41:30,300
we were looking to our left

3889
02:41:34,670 --> 02:41:31,920
because we knew these things were coming

3890
02:41:37,010 --> 02:41:34,680
up the river so we were kind of waiting

3891
02:41:38,090 --> 02:41:37,020
for them to see if we could see anything

3892
02:41:40,730 --> 02:41:38,100
else

3893
02:41:42,530 --> 02:41:40,740
I remember sitting in the back seat just

3894
02:41:44,929 --> 02:41:42,540
looking down at the river

3895
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:44,939
a couple minutes passed by these lights

3896
02:41:50,870 --> 02:41:47,760
were coming at us at this time they're

3897
02:41:52,010 --> 02:41:50,880
about a half a mile away from us I have

3898
02:41:54,290 --> 02:41:52,020
photos

3899
02:41:56,870 --> 02:41:54,300
and I have documentation

3900
02:41:59,210 --> 02:41:56,880
of this incident which I'll tell you

3901
02:42:01,370 --> 02:41:59,220
about after I tell you my story there's

3902
02:42:03,230 --> 02:42:01,380
another spin to this story

3903
02:42:05,389 --> 02:42:03,240
that you guys are going to be very very

3904
02:42:09,230 --> 02:42:05,399
intrigued about and I can't believe it

3905
02:42:10,969 --> 02:42:09,240
actually what are the odds of this so

3906
02:42:13,730 --> 02:42:10,979
let me finish my story first and then

3907
02:42:15,950 --> 02:42:13,740
I'll get into that here come these two

3908
02:42:18,830 --> 02:42:15,960
lights coming towards us about a half a

3909
02:42:20,150 --> 02:42:18,840
mile away there are about 250 feet off

3910
02:42:22,730 --> 02:42:20,160
of the ground

3911
02:42:26,570 --> 02:42:22,740
so that's not very high they were very

3912
02:42:30,770 --> 02:42:26,580
low and there was no sound zero sound

3913
02:42:33,770 --> 02:42:30,780
whatsoever we were looking and all of a

3914
02:42:36,770 --> 02:42:33,780
sudden they got Within

3915
02:42:41,389 --> 02:42:36,780
I would say maybe an eighth of a mile to

3916
02:42:43,610 --> 02:42:41,399
us and all I remember was boom they were

3917
02:42:45,950 --> 02:42:43,620
gone within a Split Second

3918
02:42:48,349 --> 02:42:45,960
and I remember seeing I'm getting

3919
02:42:50,870 --> 02:42:48,359
Goosebumps right now I'm seriously

3920
02:42:52,130 --> 02:42:50,880
getting chills these things disappeared

3921
02:42:54,830 --> 02:42:52,140
within a second

3922
02:42:57,410 --> 02:42:54,840
they were absolutely gone

3923
02:43:00,170 --> 02:42:57,420
I heard a sonic boom they broke the

3924
02:43:02,210 --> 02:43:00,180
sound barrier both of them

3925
02:43:05,330 --> 02:43:02,220
were absolutely gone

3926
02:43:07,250 --> 02:43:05,340
disappeared gone

3927
02:43:09,469 --> 02:43:07,260
and I remember looking up

3928
02:43:12,170 --> 02:43:09,479
you could see like a streak streak of

3929
02:43:14,330 --> 02:43:12,180
light go up when they disappeared

3930
02:43:16,070 --> 02:43:14,340
up into the Stars

3931
02:43:19,250 --> 02:43:16,080
and I remember looking

3932
02:43:21,469 --> 02:43:19,260
up at the stars and I couldn't tell

3933
02:43:23,870 --> 02:43:21,479
which star was there and which one

3934
02:43:27,170 --> 02:43:23,880
wasn't these things were gone in a

3935
02:43:29,210 --> 02:43:27,180
matter of a millisecond it was over it

3936
02:43:32,090 --> 02:43:29,220
was unbelievable

3937
02:43:33,230 --> 02:43:32,100
in my experience I think about it all

3938
02:43:34,849 --> 02:43:33,240
the time

3939
02:43:36,710 --> 02:43:34,859
I don't know if anybody else has

3940
02:43:38,510 --> 02:43:36,720
experienced the same thing that I've

3941
02:43:40,910 --> 02:43:38,520
experienced but that's pretty

3942
02:43:43,190 --> 02:43:40,920
extraordinarily

3943
02:43:44,929 --> 02:43:43,200
it's crazy now I'm gonna sit here and

3944
02:43:46,550 --> 02:43:44,939
I'm going to ask you something

3945
02:43:49,550 --> 02:43:46,560
we're those human

3946
02:43:52,610 --> 02:43:49,560
were those alien

3947
02:43:54,349 --> 02:43:52,620
was that something our government

3948
02:43:56,389 --> 02:43:54,359
has created

3949
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,399
I don't know

3950
02:44:00,110 --> 02:43:59,040
all I know is what I saw and what I

3951
02:44:03,050 --> 02:44:00,120
heard

3952
02:44:06,170 --> 02:44:03,060
that's all I can tell you and I was nine

3953
02:44:07,510 --> 02:44:06,180
years old and I remember it just like it

3954
02:44:10,610 --> 02:44:07,520
was yesterday

3955
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:10,620
I remember talking to my dad and my

3956
02:44:15,530 --> 02:44:11,520
brother

3957
02:44:18,410 --> 02:44:15,540
alive

3958
02:44:22,010 --> 02:44:18,420
we talked about it every once in a while

3959
02:44:25,130 --> 02:44:22,020
he remembers it very vividly like I do

3960
02:44:28,910 --> 02:44:25,140
my dad since has passed he passed away

3961
02:44:31,990 --> 02:44:28,920
in 2007 but when I became an adult I

3962
02:44:35,210 --> 02:44:32,000
never really asked him about that night

3963
02:44:37,610 --> 02:44:35,220
I wish I would have

3964
02:44:41,570 --> 02:44:37,620
the other part that I wanted to tell you

3965
02:44:47,150 --> 02:44:41,580
about is that I'm a wedding DJ and I was

3966
02:44:51,070 --> 02:44:47,160
doing a wedding back in 2012 and I just

3967
02:44:54,410 --> 02:44:51,080
posted a YouTube video of my experience

3968
02:44:57,230 --> 02:44:54,420
I since now have deleted it I kind of

3969
02:44:59,929 --> 02:44:57,240
wish I didn't but I just posted my

3970
02:45:03,770 --> 02:44:59,939
experience on YouTube it was uh like a

3971
02:45:06,410 --> 02:45:03,780
10 minute video and I was going with the

3972
02:45:08,809 --> 02:45:06,420
flow at this wedding reception doing all

3973
02:45:10,670 --> 02:45:08,819
the announcements entertaining the

3974
02:45:13,849 --> 02:45:10,680
people with everything that we were

3975
02:45:16,429 --> 02:45:13,859
supposed to be doing and I had a

3976
02:45:19,790 --> 02:45:16,439
gentleman come up to me and what are the

3977
02:45:22,969 --> 02:45:19,800
odds of this I had a gentleman come up

3978
02:45:25,670 --> 02:45:22,979
to me with his iPad in his hand and look

3979
02:45:29,210 --> 02:45:25,680
at me and say is this you

3980
02:45:32,690 --> 02:45:29,220
and he had my YouTube video on his iPad

3981
02:45:35,510 --> 02:45:32,700
he was sitting at one of the tables with

3982
02:45:36,710 --> 02:45:35,520
his iPad showing like eight people at

3983
02:45:39,230 --> 02:45:36,720
his table

3984
02:45:42,889 --> 02:45:39,240
showing them my video

3985
02:45:45,849 --> 02:45:42,899
and me talking about my experience

3986
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:45,859
down in Addison Maine in Cape split

3987
02:45:53,150 --> 02:45:50,160
later on after talking with him the

3988
02:45:57,170 --> 02:45:53,160
gentleman had a home down in Cape split

3989
02:46:00,349 --> 02:45:57,180
in 1992 right next to where my car while

3990
02:46:03,010 --> 02:46:00,359
our car was parked the night we saw

3991
02:46:05,809 --> 02:46:03,020
these lights come up over that island

3992
02:46:08,809 --> 02:46:05,819
and he took pictures

3993
02:46:12,770 --> 02:46:08,819
of these lights

3994
02:46:14,950 --> 02:46:12,780
and he is now sent those pictures to me

3995
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:14,960
and I'm so

3996
02:46:19,969 --> 02:46:18,240
unbelievably grateful that I could have

3997
02:46:22,610 --> 02:46:19,979
all of this stuff

3998
02:46:27,290 --> 02:46:22,620
and have this proof because it's 100

3999
02:46:29,690 --> 02:46:27,300
True what are the odds of somebody

4000
02:46:31,610 --> 02:46:29,700
capturing those pictures

4001
02:46:33,950 --> 02:46:31,620
the same night

4002
02:46:35,630 --> 02:46:33,960
me my dad and my brother were sitting

4003
02:46:38,270 --> 02:46:35,640
there in a car

4004
02:46:40,730 --> 02:46:38,280
watching these things

4005
02:46:43,070 --> 02:46:40,740
this gentleman talked to me for over

4006
02:46:46,070 --> 02:46:43,080
three hours on the phone one day

4007
02:46:48,950 --> 02:46:46,080
because he couldn't believe that other

4008
02:46:53,150 --> 02:46:48,960
people had seen what he had been seeing

4009
02:46:54,770 --> 02:46:53,160
that night he sent me the pictures

4010
02:46:57,770 --> 02:46:54,780
in WoW

4011
02:47:00,230 --> 02:46:57,780
I can't explain to you

4012
02:47:03,230 --> 02:47:00,240
how they made me feel they bring me back

4013
02:47:05,990 --> 02:47:03,240
to the night we were there

4014
02:47:07,969 --> 02:47:06,000
ladies and gentlemen that is my story a

4015
02:47:10,849 --> 02:47:07,979
UFO sighting

4016
02:47:13,429 --> 02:47:10,859
and the experience I had back in 1992

4017
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:13,439
when I was nine years old

4018
02:47:16,849 --> 02:47:15,600
very grateful very happy to share it

4019
02:47:18,349 --> 02:47:16,859
with you guys

4020
02:47:21,090 --> 02:47:18,359
now I want to thank you guys for sitting

4021
02:47:28,370 --> 02:47:21,100
here and listening to my story

4022
02:47:33,710 --> 02:47:31,010
hi Ryan this is Robbie

4023
02:47:37,370 --> 02:47:33,720
I'm an Air Force veteran from the 1970s

4024
02:47:39,290 --> 02:47:37,380
I enjoyed my time in the Air Force

4025
02:47:43,370 --> 02:47:39,300
um I was stationed at Shepard Air Force

4026
02:47:46,190 --> 02:47:43,380
Base uh 1974 1975.

4027
02:47:49,250 --> 02:47:46,200
on a Saturday night around midnight

4028
02:47:54,650 --> 02:47:49,260
myself and two uh other Airmen friends

4029
02:47:56,090 --> 02:47:54,660
of mine we were sitting heading east

4030
02:47:57,650 --> 02:47:56,100
um we didn't have any money so we hadn't

4031
02:48:00,830 --> 02:47:57,660
been drinking or anything

4032
02:48:05,870 --> 02:48:00,840
we were just Southwest of Shepherd Air

4033
02:48:09,170 --> 02:48:05,880
Force Base low overcast Skies we could

4034
02:48:13,429 --> 02:48:09,180
see the uh kind of the glow of Wichita

4035
02:48:20,929 --> 02:48:17,150
um traveling west to east kind of over

4036
02:48:24,410 --> 02:48:20,939
our right shoulder uh two lights came

4037
02:48:26,210 --> 02:48:24,420
into view about as bright as uh 1970s

4038
02:48:28,690 --> 02:48:26,220
headlight

4039
02:48:32,570 --> 02:48:28,700
about right as a headline

4040
02:48:34,309 --> 02:48:32,580
traveling west east the first one let's

4041
02:48:37,969 --> 02:48:34,319
say it was doing 100 miles an hour a

4042
02:48:40,790 --> 02:48:37,979
second window by maybe 200 miles an hour

4043
02:48:42,770 --> 02:48:40,800
um they were I'm guessing a thousand

4044
02:48:45,290 --> 02:48:42,780
foot above the ground

4045
02:48:48,290 --> 02:48:45,300
we didn't think much of it it was common

4046
02:48:50,270 --> 02:48:48,300
to see aircraft in the in the area

4047
02:48:53,570 --> 02:48:50,280
especially you know around Shepherd that

4048
02:48:56,750 --> 02:48:53,580
we figured they might be t-38s they

4049
02:48:59,290 --> 02:48:56,760
travel together often anyway we didn't

4050
02:49:02,690 --> 02:48:59,300
observe any

4051
02:49:04,370 --> 02:49:02,700
strobes or nav lights the red green navs

4052
02:49:07,610 --> 02:49:04,380
that the aircraft have

4053
02:49:09,950 --> 02:49:07,620
anyway uh we just kind of watched it we

4054
02:49:13,429 --> 02:49:09,960
weren't thinking much of it just talking

4055
02:49:16,190 --> 02:49:13,439
well the instant that the second light

4056
02:49:19,250 --> 02:49:16,200
which was traveling approximately twice

4057
02:49:21,530 --> 02:49:19,260
as fast as the lead light uh the instant

4058
02:49:24,290 --> 02:49:21,540
of the second light caught up with the

4059
02:49:27,889 --> 02:49:24,300
first it became one light

4060
02:49:29,210 --> 02:49:27,899
not any brighter about the same as a as

4061
02:49:32,630 --> 02:49:29,220
a headline

4062
02:49:35,270 --> 02:49:32,640
but also at that instant it shot

4063
02:49:39,770 --> 02:49:35,280
straight up vertical

4064
02:49:41,150 --> 02:49:39,780
from a zero vertical speed to thousands

4065
02:49:43,250 --> 02:49:41,160
of miles an hour

4066
02:49:45,889 --> 02:49:43,260
I've worked around all kind of

4067
02:49:49,250 --> 02:49:45,899
supersonic aircraft and and high-tech

4068
02:49:53,210 --> 02:49:49,260
weapons I have never seen anything in

4069
02:49:56,050 --> 02:49:53,220
all the years traveled nearly that speed

4070
02:49:59,510 --> 02:49:56,060
nothing nothing at all

4071
02:50:00,340 --> 02:49:59,520
we talked about it briefly uh kind of

4072
02:50:01,429 --> 02:50:00,350
what is that

4073
02:50:04,250 --> 02:50:01,439
[Music]

4074
02:50:06,830 --> 02:50:04,260
and then we didn't report it because we

4075
02:50:09,770 --> 02:50:06,840
didn't know how to or where to and you

4076
02:50:12,349 --> 02:50:09,780
know we were just young Airmen

4077
02:50:16,190 --> 02:50:12,359
um since that time I've been in aviation

4078
02:50:19,969 --> 02:50:16,200
all my life I've met other Airmen Air

4079
02:50:23,750 --> 02:50:19,979
Force and uh and navy that have similar

4080
02:50:25,070 --> 02:50:23,760
and some far more spectacular stories

4081
02:50:27,530 --> 02:50:25,080
um than that

4082
02:50:28,790 --> 02:50:27,540
I do want to share that I was stationed

4083
02:50:32,330 --> 02:50:28,800
at Canon

4084
02:50:35,830 --> 02:50:32,340
uh in 75 I I went from Shepherd to

4085
02:50:39,950 --> 02:50:35,840
Cannon Air Force Base in January

4086
02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:39,960
1976. I did not observe this but I was

4087
02:50:43,969 --> 02:50:41,760
friends with some of these Security

4088
02:50:45,889 --> 02:50:43,979
Police the Air Force Security Police the

4089
02:50:48,530 --> 02:50:45,899
SPs

4090
02:50:50,270 --> 02:50:48,540
and they would come stay at my place I

4091
02:50:52,490 --> 02:50:50,280
had a little place out the back gate and

4092
02:50:55,250 --> 02:50:52,500
you know we'd come they'd hang out we

4093
02:50:58,309 --> 02:50:55,260
became fairly good friends anyway they

4094
02:51:01,670 --> 02:50:58,319
observed in January 1976

4095
02:51:03,410 --> 02:51:01,680
UFOs on the flight line spectacular uh

4096
02:51:05,690 --> 02:51:03,420
my

4097
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:05,700
vision of it as they described it is

4098
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:09,120
like what we saw in Close Encounters of

4099
02:51:13,870 --> 02:51:10,800
the Third Kind

4100
02:51:17,570 --> 02:51:13,880
you know that size that kind of Lights

4101
02:51:21,230 --> 02:51:17,580
this was multiple nights it was reported

4102
02:51:23,330 --> 02:51:21,240
by Cannon Air Force Base command to

4103
02:51:26,870 --> 02:51:23,340
Washington DC it made the local

4104
02:51:28,849 --> 02:51:26,880
newspapers you know but it was the

4105
02:51:32,889 --> 02:51:28,859
stories of the SPs who actually

4106
02:51:35,929 --> 02:51:32,899
witnessed it and it was their Terror

4107
02:51:38,510 --> 02:51:35,939
that uh that I remember

4108
02:51:41,389 --> 02:51:38,520
they got into heated debates

4109
02:51:43,130 --> 02:51:41,399
some were angry that had been turned in

4110
02:51:46,070 --> 02:51:43,140
because it was devastating to their

4111
02:51:47,990 --> 02:51:46,080
career there was a horrible stigma about

4112
02:51:50,990 --> 02:51:48,000
reporting these things

4113
02:51:54,290 --> 02:51:51,000
uh my lifetime of dealing with Pilots

4114
02:51:56,210 --> 02:51:54,300
Air Force pilots especially whenever you

4115
02:51:58,550 --> 02:51:56,220
brought up the conversation of hey have

4116
02:52:01,130 --> 02:51:58,560
you ever seen a UFO UAP

4117
02:52:03,469 --> 02:52:01,140
there's a look on their face that comes

4118
02:52:05,990 --> 02:52:03,479
across that

4119
02:52:09,410 --> 02:52:06,000
it's not right it you can see they their

4120
02:52:11,330 --> 02:52:09,420
eyes divert and uh it's been that way my

4121
02:52:13,910 --> 02:52:11,340
whole life dealing with former military

4122
02:52:15,769 --> 02:52:13,920
Pilots is I don't know what it is again

4123
02:52:17,330 --> 02:52:15,779
it's the stigma

4124
02:52:19,309 --> 02:52:17,340
you know I don't know if you're a force

4125
02:52:22,670 --> 02:52:19,319
or navy tells them

4126
02:52:25,490 --> 02:52:22,680
anyway uh that's the uh

4127
02:52:27,050 --> 02:52:25,500
I absolutely believe those SPS

4128
02:52:28,910 --> 02:52:27,060
and uh

4129
02:52:33,769 --> 02:52:28,920
I wish someone would kind of look into

4130
02:52:36,530 --> 02:52:33,779
that I I don't understand why so many of

4131
02:52:38,090 --> 02:52:36,540
these uaps UFOs have what appears to be

4132
02:52:40,190 --> 02:52:38,100
nav lights

4133
02:52:43,070 --> 02:52:40,200
you know I mean do they have to follow

4134
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:43,080
FAA regulations

4135
02:52:47,929 --> 02:52:45,359
um are they

4136
02:52:49,790 --> 02:52:47,939
if they're human I don't understand how

4137
02:52:52,309 --> 02:52:49,800
we did it because you know the Maneuvers

4138
02:52:53,870 --> 02:52:52,319
defy physics as I believe humans

4139
02:52:55,730 --> 02:52:53,880
understand it today

4140
02:52:57,950 --> 02:52:55,740
and it's been going on since at least

4141
02:52:59,030 --> 02:52:57,960
the 40s and really probably long before

4142
02:53:02,570 --> 02:52:59,040
that

4143
02:53:05,690 --> 02:53:02,580
so uh but if it's not let's just say

4144
02:53:07,309 --> 02:53:05,700
humans that we know there must be some

4145
02:53:09,769 --> 02:53:07,319
kind of rules that say they gotta have

4146
02:53:13,370 --> 02:53:09,779
lights also it's kind of

4147
02:53:16,010 --> 02:53:13,380
queer that the UFOs that reported that

4148
02:53:18,309 --> 02:53:16,020
Canon did have lights

4149
02:53:21,469 --> 02:53:18,319
and that these documents are available

4150
02:53:24,230 --> 02:53:21,479
I've found recently online

4151
02:53:27,530 --> 02:53:24,240
so uh you know the description of the

4152
02:53:30,349 --> 02:53:27,540
UFOs and and the newspaper clippings and

4153
02:53:32,809 --> 02:53:30,359
that kind of stuff anyway Ryan uh I was

4154
02:53:34,370 --> 02:53:32,819
never scared it makes me curious more

4155
02:53:38,150 --> 02:53:34,380
than anything

4156
02:53:41,330 --> 02:53:38,160
and uh I want to thank you for uh the

4157
02:53:45,110 --> 02:53:41,340
great shows I really love your sincerity

4158
02:53:47,990 --> 02:53:45,120
and your eagerness and your interest it

4159
02:53:51,469 --> 02:53:48,000
really shows look forward to uh

4160
02:53:56,330 --> 02:53:51,479
listening and uh to further shows again

4161
02:54:02,690 --> 02:54:00,290
hi Ryan my name is Vivian I'm 34 years

4162
02:54:04,490 --> 02:54:02,700
old and I currently live in China but

4163
02:54:07,309 --> 02:54:04,500
the event I'm about to describe happened

4164
02:54:09,710 --> 02:54:07,319
in a place called Black River which is a

4165
02:54:11,870 --> 02:54:09,720
rural sparsely populated suburb about 50

4166
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:11,880
minutes drive from the little town I

4167
02:54:16,309 --> 02:54:13,680
grew up in in North Queensland on the

4168
02:54:19,490 --> 02:54:16,319
East Coast of Australia

4169
02:54:20,990 --> 02:54:19,500
I think it was here in 1997 because I

4170
02:54:23,269 --> 02:54:21,000
remember around this time was when

4171
02:54:25,550 --> 02:54:23,279
Princess Diana was killed in Paris so I

4172
02:54:29,150 --> 02:54:25,560
believe this could be correct and if so

4173
02:54:32,090 --> 02:54:29,160
that puts me at 10 years old at the time

4174
02:54:33,650 --> 02:54:32,100
so this happened one early evening I

4175
02:54:36,170 --> 02:54:33,660
think it must have been in the winter so

4176
02:54:38,690 --> 02:54:36,180
around June or July because I remember

4177
02:54:40,910 --> 02:54:38,700
it was getting dark early in the day

4178
02:54:42,170 --> 02:54:40,920
I was with my mom and my dad and we were

4179
02:54:44,510 --> 02:54:42,180
getting ready to leave the large

4180
02:54:47,150 --> 02:54:44,520
property our horses were kept on

4181
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:47,160
this property was quite remote reached

4182
02:54:51,650 --> 02:54:49,439
only by a dirt road and the property

4183
02:54:53,090 --> 02:54:51,660
itself was just Bush and backed onto

4184
02:54:56,410 --> 02:54:53,100
Government land

4185
02:54:59,269 --> 02:54:56,420
there were no houses on it or around it

4186
02:55:01,550 --> 02:54:59,279
and the property had no electricity and

4187
02:55:03,170 --> 02:55:01,560
there were no street lights so it was

4188
02:55:05,389 --> 02:55:03,180
quite dark at night

4189
02:55:07,130 --> 02:55:05,399
on this particular evening we were

4190
02:55:09,230 --> 02:55:07,140
waiting for our two horses to finish

4191
02:55:11,150 --> 02:55:09,240
eating their food so we could pack up

4192
02:55:12,410 --> 02:55:11,160
their feed buckets and head home and I

4193
02:55:14,809 --> 02:55:12,420
remember we were just standing around

4194
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:14,819
our car at the entrance to the property

4195
02:55:19,370 --> 02:55:17,279
just talking and brushing the horses

4196
02:55:21,170 --> 02:55:19,380
I remember it was a clear dark night

4197
02:55:23,990 --> 02:55:21,180
there must not have been much Moon

4198
02:55:26,990 --> 02:55:24,000
because I remember it was very dark but

4199
02:55:28,969 --> 02:55:27,000
the sky was very clear and full of stars

4200
02:55:30,830 --> 02:55:28,979
as we were standing there one of my

4201
02:55:33,590 --> 02:55:30,840
parents I'm not sure now if it was my

4202
02:55:37,250 --> 02:55:33,600
mum or my dad said what do you suppose

4203
02:55:39,650 --> 02:55:37,260
that is and I looked up and saw a

4204
02:55:41,690 --> 02:55:39,660
reddish orange ball of light hovering

4205
02:55:43,790 --> 02:55:41,700
above Mount black which is a

4206
02:55:46,309 --> 02:55:43,800
pyramid-shaped small Mountain visible

4207
02:55:49,010 --> 02:55:46,319
and not too far from the property

4208
02:55:51,050 --> 02:55:49,020
it's hard for me to say how far away the

4209
02:55:53,630 --> 02:55:51,060
light was or how far above Mount black

4210
02:55:55,429 --> 02:55:53,640
it was but it appeared to be larger than

4211
02:55:56,450 --> 02:55:55,439
the lights of a plane or a helicopter at

4212
02:55:58,550 --> 02:55:56,460
that distance

4213
02:56:00,710 --> 02:55:58,560
I remember describing it later like a

4214
02:56:02,450 --> 02:56:00,720
miniature sign it was so bright it was

4215
02:56:04,910 --> 02:56:02,460
hovering above the top of the mountain

4216
02:56:06,650 --> 02:56:04,920
and stationary we watched it for some

4217
02:56:09,590 --> 02:56:06,660
minutes before things started to get

4218
02:56:11,450 --> 02:56:09,600
weird so after a while it started to

4219
02:56:14,269 --> 02:56:11,460
move but not in the way that any aerial

4220
02:56:16,070 --> 02:56:14,279
craft at the time moved the best way I

4221
02:56:17,929 --> 02:56:16,080
can describe it is that it zipped along

4222
02:56:19,969 --> 02:56:17,939
it is zipped across some and then would

4223
02:56:21,889 --> 02:56:19,979
stop and then it would dip straight up

4224
02:56:24,349 --> 02:56:21,899
and stop then it would ZIP down again

4225
02:56:26,450 --> 02:56:24,359
but on a diagonal and then it would stop

4226
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,460
he was able to accelerate from a

4227
02:56:31,849 --> 02:56:28,560
stationary position to an incredible

4228
02:56:33,590 --> 02:56:31,859
speed so fast and also to stop so

4229
02:56:35,330 --> 02:56:33,600
suddenly it didn't seem to be affected

4230
02:56:37,190 --> 02:56:35,340
by inertia at all

4231
02:56:39,110 --> 02:56:37,200
so it carried on with these movements

4232
02:56:41,750 --> 02:56:39,120
for maybe five or so minutes it was

4233
02:56:43,790 --> 02:56:41,760
almost as if it was making some kind of

4234
02:56:46,130 --> 02:56:43,800
shape or pattern in the sky with the

4235
02:56:48,050 --> 02:56:46,140
movements we were watching it the whole

4236
02:56:49,670 --> 02:56:48,060
time and I mean my eyes were glued to

4237
02:56:52,309 --> 02:56:49,680
this thing because even though I didn't

4238
02:56:54,230 --> 02:56:52,319
really know about UFOs at that time I

4239
02:56:55,849 --> 02:56:54,240
knew intuitively that what I was seeing

4240
02:56:58,309 --> 02:56:55,859
was something that did not and could not

4241
02:56:59,450 --> 02:56:58,319
be a conventional aircraft or a military

4242
02:57:01,670 --> 02:56:59,460
craft

4243
02:57:03,710 --> 02:57:01,680
the speed at which it moved and the way

4244
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:03,720
it moved I just knew we were watching

4245
02:57:07,550 --> 02:57:05,760
something really special and so we

4246
02:57:10,130 --> 02:57:07,560
watched it zip along making these

4247
02:57:12,469 --> 02:57:10,140
strange movements and then it stopped

4248
02:57:14,929 --> 02:57:12,479
and hovered completely stationary

4249
02:57:16,490 --> 02:57:14,939
then in less than a second it shot

4250
02:57:19,130 --> 02:57:16,500
straight up into the sky and was gone

4251
02:57:20,870 --> 02:57:19,140
and I mean the speed it shot upwards was

4252
02:57:22,010 --> 02:57:20,880
like in the blink of an eye it was that

4253
02:57:24,170 --> 02:57:22,020
fast

4254
02:57:26,870 --> 02:57:24,180
when that happened I remember my mum was

4255
02:57:29,210 --> 02:57:26,880
like okay time to go and we all pretty

4256
02:57:30,710 --> 02:57:29,220
much ran for the car I think my parents

4257
02:57:32,269 --> 02:57:30,720
were pretty freaked out and the whole

4258
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:32,279
drive home I remember just sitting in

4259
02:57:36,650 --> 02:57:34,800
the back seat totally in shock listening

4260
02:57:39,650 --> 02:57:36,660
as my parents debated about what the

4261
02:57:41,389 --> 02:57:39,660
heck we all just saw being around 10 at

4262
02:57:43,670 --> 02:57:41,399
the time I didn't really tell anyone

4263
02:57:46,010 --> 02:57:43,680
about it until years later though I did

4264
02:57:48,230 --> 02:57:46,020
often talk about it with my parents

4265
02:57:49,990 --> 02:57:48,240
memory stayed with me though as clear as

4266
02:57:52,309 --> 02:57:50,000
day through all the years definitely

4267
02:57:55,130 --> 02:57:52,319
ignited in me a desire to know more

4268
02:57:56,510 --> 02:57:55,140
about the UFO phenomena and the universe

4269
02:57:58,190 --> 02:57:56,520
in general

4270
02:58:00,530 --> 02:57:58,200
I have many times over the years

4271
02:58:02,929 --> 02:58:00,540
searched databases and newspaper records

4272
02:58:05,750 --> 02:58:02,939
to try and find any other accounts that

4273
02:58:08,150 --> 02:58:05,760
match what I saw that night

4274
02:58:10,670 --> 02:58:08,160
it's definitely shaped the person that I

4275
02:58:12,710 --> 02:58:10,680
am today and stirred in me I want of

4276
02:58:15,410 --> 02:58:12,720
something more than just the acceptance

4277
02:58:16,910 --> 02:58:15,420
of a mundane Earthbound life I do

4278
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,920
believe whatever or whoever was

4279
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:19,200
controlling that craft that night was

4280
02:58:23,330 --> 02:58:21,120
not from this world and believing that

4281
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:23,340
actually brings me optimism and I think

4282
02:58:27,469 --> 02:58:25,200
that if humans could just think outside

4283
02:58:29,330 --> 02:58:27,479
of our Earthbound life there could be an

4284
02:58:32,030 --> 02:58:29,340
incredible potential for us to explore

4285
02:58:33,889 --> 02:58:32,040
space an inch closer to understanding

4286
02:58:35,330 --> 02:58:33,899
our place in the universe and how we got

4287
02:58:37,610 --> 02:58:35,340
here

4288
02:58:40,370 --> 02:58:37,620
I have never had any doubt about what I

4289
02:58:43,490 --> 02:58:40,380
saw I never thought oh maybe we were

4290
02:58:45,830 --> 02:58:43,500
wrong maybe it was a plane no

4291
02:58:48,050 --> 02:58:45,840
um what we witnessed that night was just

4292
02:58:50,330 --> 02:58:48,060
so far beyond human capability that it

4293
02:58:52,010 --> 02:58:50,340
wasn't even a question to me that what

4294
02:58:56,330 --> 02:58:52,020
we saw was something other than a

4295
02:58:58,309 --> 02:58:56,340
visiting UFO so yeah that's my story

4296
02:58:59,929 --> 02:58:58,319
um to this day I continue to search the

4297
02:59:02,389 --> 02:58:59,939
skies no matter where I am in the world

4298
02:59:05,150 --> 02:59:02,399
and on a few occasions I've seen things

4299
02:59:06,650 --> 02:59:05,160
that made me wonder but I've never seen

4300
02:59:09,230 --> 02:59:06,660
anything again that matched what I saw

4301
02:59:10,670 --> 02:59:09,240
that night in 1997 though I hope one day

4302
02:59:11,990 --> 02:59:10,680
maybe I will again

4303
02:59:16,490 --> 02:59:12,000
anyway

4304
02:59:24,469 --> 02:59:19,790
I'm Ralphie and uh I want to talk about

4305
02:59:28,429 --> 02:59:24,479
one of my singular specific experiences

4306
02:59:30,110 --> 02:59:28,439
which I had many many years ago

4307
02:59:32,809 --> 02:59:30,120
and

4308
02:59:35,630 --> 02:59:32,819
it is because I was a young child at the

4309
02:59:40,610 --> 02:59:35,640
time no more than seven years old

4310
02:59:43,389 --> 02:59:40,620
that I've always been very open-minded

4311
02:59:47,389 --> 02:59:43,399
about the existence of unidentified

4312
02:59:52,849 --> 02:59:51,110
other phenomenon or similar phenomenon

4313
02:59:54,110 --> 02:59:52,859
because when we're children we're

4314
02:59:55,429 --> 02:59:54,120
open-minded

4315
02:59:57,650 --> 02:59:55,439
we're not

4316
03:00:00,050 --> 02:59:57,660
burdened by the baggage of

4317
03:00:02,870 --> 03:00:00,060
self-censorship

4318
03:00:05,650 --> 03:00:02,880
that adults are

4319
03:00:09,349 --> 03:00:05,660
and I was basically

4320
03:00:13,130 --> 03:00:09,359
young kid seven years old

4321
03:00:15,830 --> 03:00:13,140
on holiday with a family

4322
03:00:17,990 --> 03:00:15,840
and we're walking down a Riverside path

4323
03:00:21,469 --> 03:00:18,000
Ferry

4324
03:00:23,870 --> 03:00:21,479
be pleasant very attractive

4325
03:00:25,730 --> 03:00:23,880
on our way to the beach

4326
03:00:27,650 --> 03:00:25,740
and

4327
03:00:30,410 --> 03:00:27,660
my brother ran ahead my little brother

4328
03:00:32,330 --> 03:00:30,420
so my parents kind of ran on to catch up

4329
03:00:35,929 --> 03:00:32,340
with him because he was the less

4330
03:00:39,830 --> 03:00:35,939
responsible one still is

4331
03:00:43,849 --> 03:00:39,840
and I sent a fell behind because

4332
03:00:45,469 --> 03:00:43,859
I was just fascinated by the flow of the

4333
03:00:47,570 --> 03:00:45,479
river the sound of the river everything

4334
03:00:49,429 --> 03:00:47,580
about it just rather like this River

4335
03:00:54,050 --> 03:00:49,439
here

4336
03:00:58,250 --> 03:00:54,060
something significant

4337
03:01:01,070 --> 03:00:58,260
that grown-ups tend to censor out

4338
03:01:02,450 --> 03:01:01,080
that young children are much more aware

4339
03:01:04,790 --> 03:01:02,460
of which is probably why they go

4340
03:01:06,530 --> 03:01:04,800
splashing in puddles and paddling in

4341
03:01:14,150 --> 03:01:06,540
rivers and throwing stones and rivers

4342
03:01:19,910 --> 03:01:15,530
I felt

4343
03:01:23,330 --> 03:01:19,920
completely on my own in the environment

4344
03:01:24,769 --> 03:01:23,340
without anybody else being there and a

4345
03:01:27,230 --> 03:01:24,779
small

4346
03:01:29,990 --> 03:01:27,240
spherical sphere

4347
03:01:32,210 --> 03:01:30,000
it was glowing with tiny minuscule

4348
03:01:34,429 --> 03:01:32,220
Sparks emanating from it

4349
03:01:35,870 --> 03:01:34,439
completely silent

4350
03:01:38,570 --> 03:01:35,880
floated

4351
03:01:40,309 --> 03:01:38,580
down the middle of the river slowly

4352
03:01:42,710 --> 03:01:40,319
suspended

4353
03:01:44,030 --> 03:01:42,720
two feet off

4354
03:01:49,010 --> 03:01:44,040
the water

4355
03:01:51,889 --> 03:01:49,020
it just was

4356
03:01:54,830 --> 03:01:51,899
drifting literally with the speed of the

4357
03:01:58,969 --> 03:01:54,840
river flow

4358
03:02:02,450 --> 03:01:58,979
and it seemed to Shimmer like a pearl

4359
03:02:05,389 --> 03:02:02,460
and I wasn't particularly frightened I

4360
03:02:09,469 --> 03:02:05,399
was just fascinated and

4361
03:02:11,450 --> 03:02:09,479
I just stood and stared at it

4362
03:02:15,230 --> 03:02:11,460
and it traveled a bit further down the

4363
03:02:17,090 --> 03:02:15,240
river about 10 meters in front of me and

4364
03:02:21,309 --> 03:02:17,100
then stopped

4365
03:02:24,050 --> 03:02:21,319
and then it drifted back Rising slightly

4366
03:02:26,210 --> 03:02:24,060
as it came

4367
03:02:29,870 --> 03:02:26,220
to what to a point where it was level

4368
03:02:32,570 --> 03:02:29,880
with me and about six to eight feet

4369
03:02:35,330 --> 03:02:32,580
above my head height

4370
03:02:38,990 --> 03:02:35,340
and I just felt that I was being

4371
03:02:41,990 --> 03:02:39,000
communicated with in a way that I

4372
03:02:44,650 --> 03:02:42,000
couldn't possibly understand

4373
03:02:46,730 --> 03:02:44,660
it's almost like some presence was just

4374
03:02:49,370 --> 03:02:46,740
acknowledging this curious little

4375
03:02:51,170 --> 03:02:49,380
humanoid child

4376
03:02:54,050 --> 03:02:51,180
before

4377
03:02:56,870 --> 03:02:54,060
it rapidly headed

4378
03:02:59,510 --> 03:02:56,880
back down following the river and

4379
03:03:02,510 --> 03:02:59,520
disappeared completely disappeared it's

4380
03:03:05,590 --> 03:03:02,520
almost as if it was as it was fading

4381
03:03:08,929 --> 03:03:05,600
away down the river it was fading away

4382
03:03:13,730 --> 03:03:08,939
from sight

4383
03:03:16,070 --> 03:03:13,740
and I've never forgotten that

4384
03:03:18,349 --> 03:03:16,080
it didn't last very long

4385
03:03:21,769 --> 03:03:18,359
but it left a very strong and play

4386
03:03:25,510 --> 03:03:21,779
impression and particularly because

4387
03:03:29,929 --> 03:03:25,520
I was a kid seven-year-old kid

4388
03:03:32,210 --> 03:03:29,939
and nothing prepared me for it and

4389
03:03:35,030 --> 03:03:32,220
nothing warned me against it

4390
03:03:38,750 --> 03:03:35,040
I simply took the experience

4391
03:03:43,250 --> 03:03:40,510
so

4392
03:03:45,710 --> 03:03:43,260
I didn't even mention it to anybody at

4393
03:03:48,469 --> 03:03:45,720
the time but in later years

4394
03:03:51,070 --> 03:03:48,479
when the topic of

4395
03:03:54,469 --> 03:03:51,080
conversation is turned around to more

4396
03:03:57,710 --> 03:03:54,479
esoteric things like

4397
03:04:00,170 --> 03:03:57,720
UFO phenomenon

4398
03:04:01,730 --> 03:04:00,180
ghosts I mean this is a question I've

4399
03:04:04,130 --> 03:04:01,740
always been asked as a funeral director

4400
03:04:07,070 --> 03:04:04,140
do ghosts exists and the answer simply

4401
03:04:08,570 --> 03:04:07,080
yes they do if you acknowledge them they

4402
03:04:11,090 --> 03:04:08,580
exist in some form

4403
03:04:13,969 --> 03:04:11,100
if they did not exist we would not have

4404
03:04:15,469 --> 03:04:13,979
a name for them a word for them or a

4405
03:04:17,090 --> 03:04:15,479
concept of them

4406
03:04:20,090 --> 03:04:17,100
simple as that

4407
03:04:24,170 --> 03:04:20,100
it's nothing fancy about it

4408
03:04:29,269 --> 03:04:26,809
it's because I'm open-minded when people

4409
03:04:32,690 --> 03:04:29,279
when the topic of conversation comes up

4410
03:04:34,910 --> 03:04:32,700
and I say I believe that UFOs exist

4411
03:04:38,389 --> 03:04:34,920
and I've seen you apples

4412
03:04:40,730 --> 03:04:38,399
and that was the first sighting

4413
03:04:43,490 --> 03:04:40,740
people start to open up a little bit

4414
03:04:46,150 --> 03:04:43,500
people who would normally keep quiet and

4415
03:04:48,769 --> 03:04:46,160
see nothing and keep the lips sealed

4416
03:04:51,889 --> 03:04:48,779
because of fear of being fearful of

4417
03:04:55,130 --> 03:04:51,899
scorn ridicule and disbelief

4418
03:04:56,389 --> 03:04:55,140
suddenly start to communicate and these

4419
03:04:59,630 --> 03:04:56,399
communications are really quite

4420
03:05:05,030 --> 03:05:02,210
they certainly exist but one of the

4421
03:05:08,950 --> 03:05:05,040
misunderstandings is that

4422
03:05:12,429 --> 03:05:08,960
UFOs are unidentified aerial phenomenon

4423
03:05:16,010 --> 03:05:12,439
are extraterrestrial is partly true

4424
03:05:18,230 --> 03:05:16,020
there are also terrestrial aerial

4425
03:05:19,790 --> 03:05:18,240
phenomenon which are not easily

4426
03:05:21,530 --> 03:05:19,800
identified

4427
03:05:25,490 --> 03:05:21,540
unless

4428
03:05:25,500 --> 03:05:29,809
communicate in certain circles

4429
03:05:33,830 --> 03:05:31,610
but that's the way of the world that's

4430
03:05:37,670 --> 03:05:33,840
what it is one of the skills in life is

4431
03:05:40,070 --> 03:05:37,680
to accept what we must

4432
03:05:46,860 --> 03:05:40,080
learn what we can

4433
03:05:51,530 --> 03:05:48,170
[Music]

4434
03:05:54,769 --> 03:05:51,540
the incident I had happening

4435
03:05:57,530 --> 03:05:54,779
in late 1980. I was sitting around the

4436
03:05:59,330 --> 03:05:57,540
kitchen table with three other people we

4437
03:06:02,389 --> 03:05:59,340
were actually playing a game back in the

4438
03:06:05,450 --> 03:06:02,399
80s called Masterpiece I was facing the

4439
03:06:09,349 --> 03:06:05,460
window which looked so

4440
03:06:12,830 --> 03:06:09,359
towards a forest and about 100 yards

4441
03:06:15,250 --> 03:06:12,840
away and probably a mile of cemetery on

4442
03:06:19,809 --> 03:06:15,260
the other side of this Forest

4443
03:06:21,650 --> 03:06:19,819
as I looked up I could see two orange

4444
03:06:25,730 --> 03:06:21,660
pea size

4445
03:06:28,670 --> 03:06:25,740
lights about two miles away over the

4446
03:06:30,650 --> 03:06:28,680
cemetery uh I thought this was odd

4447
03:06:34,490 --> 03:06:30,660
because there's there was never any

4448
03:06:35,889 --> 03:06:34,500
planes or any type of air traffic in

4449
03:06:38,630 --> 03:06:35,899
that area

4450
03:06:40,610 --> 03:06:38,640
I said to everybody sitting around the

4451
03:06:42,650 --> 03:06:40,620
table oh look there's a helicopter over

4452
03:06:44,630 --> 03:06:42,660
top of the forest

4453
03:06:49,070 --> 03:06:44,640
nobody really seemed to

4454
03:06:53,269 --> 03:06:49,080
take note of it as I went to play my

4455
03:06:56,030 --> 03:06:53,279
card I looked up again and within a

4456
03:07:01,790 --> 03:06:56,040
blink of an eye those orange colored P

4457
03:07:03,590 --> 03:07:01,800
shapes became huge basketball light

4458
03:07:04,910 --> 03:07:03,600
within a second

4459
03:07:08,269 --> 03:07:04,920
hovering

4460
03:07:11,870 --> 03:07:08,279
just over the edge of the Treetops

4461
03:07:13,849 --> 03:07:11,880
I I stood up looked and the left one

4462
03:07:16,610 --> 03:07:13,859
blinked out and then the right one

4463
03:07:19,370 --> 03:07:16,620
blinked out just like a light switch

4464
03:07:22,490 --> 03:07:19,380
I said to everybody what the hell was

4465
03:07:23,750 --> 03:07:22,500
that we ran outside took a look nothing

4466
03:07:25,910 --> 03:07:23,760
in the air

4467
03:07:29,510 --> 03:07:25,920
there was no sound

4468
03:07:32,030 --> 03:07:29,520
the orange lights were were

4469
03:07:35,750 --> 03:07:32,040
almost spinning

4470
03:07:37,429 --> 03:07:35,760
like what I what I thought of was the

4471
03:07:39,110 --> 03:07:37,439
Enterprise on Star Trek when their

4472
03:07:41,870 --> 03:07:39,120
lights Spin and there's that orange

4473
03:07:44,030 --> 03:07:41,880
squirrel that's what these look like for

4474
03:07:47,809 --> 03:07:44,040
the second that they were sitting there

4475
03:07:49,429 --> 03:07:47,819
it was fascinating it's it's been in my

4476
03:07:52,210 --> 03:07:49,439
mind for 40 years

4477
03:07:55,790 --> 03:07:52,220
trying to figure out what that was

4478
03:07:56,630 --> 03:07:55,800
the biggest thing was how quick it moved

4479
03:08:02,690 --> 03:07:56,640
from

4480
03:08:03,530 --> 03:08:02,700
like I said in a blink of an eye it was

4481
03:08:05,269 --> 03:08:03,540
there

4482
03:08:07,790 --> 03:08:05,279
just amazing

4483
03:08:10,010 --> 03:08:07,800
you know from that point on I uh I

4484
03:08:11,030 --> 03:08:10,020
started to look up in the sky all the

4485
03:08:12,769 --> 03:08:11,040
time

4486
03:08:16,490 --> 03:08:12,779
I was looking I was trying to find

4487
03:08:17,330 --> 03:08:16,500
something that maybe that I would see

4488
03:08:19,370 --> 03:08:17,340
again

4489
03:08:22,130 --> 03:08:19,380
I haven't done that haven't seen another

4490
03:08:24,769 --> 03:08:22,140
thing but I'm hopefully one day that I

4491
03:08:27,769 --> 03:08:24,779
that I would it was very exhilarating to

4492
03:08:29,990 --> 03:08:27,779
see that and I'm always looking up in

4493
03:08:32,389 --> 03:08:30,000
the sky and seeing if there is is

4494
03:08:34,370 --> 03:08:32,399
something somewhere in the sky

4495
03:08:37,969 --> 03:08:34,380
that I could see it was quite the

4496
03:08:45,849 --> 03:08:40,670
hello I've been wanting to tell this

4497
03:08:50,150 --> 03:08:45,859
story for forever and a lot of people

4498
03:08:53,330 --> 03:08:50,160
basically nobody that I know see this

4499
03:08:57,309 --> 03:08:53,340
coming from me because

4500
03:09:00,710 --> 03:08:57,319
um I'm seen as a reasonable person in my

4501
03:09:03,050 --> 03:09:00,720
circle of friends or like anyone for

4502
03:09:08,269 --> 03:09:03,060
that matter sees me like a reasonable

4503
03:09:13,610 --> 03:09:08,279
person like a really rational and driven

4504
03:09:18,410 --> 03:09:13,620
human being so when I tell them that I

4505
03:09:21,050 --> 03:09:18,420
saw an UFO and like a crazy like were

4506
03:09:23,929 --> 03:09:21,060
you okay like did you do drugs did you

4507
03:09:27,349 --> 03:09:23,939
smoke like what what did you do that's

4508
03:09:31,429 --> 03:09:27,359
not you I know it doesn't sound like me

4509
03:09:33,240 --> 03:09:31,439
if you know me but this happened to me

4510
03:09:34,370 --> 03:09:33,250
I'm I'm not making this up

4511
03:09:35,269 --> 03:09:34,380
[Music]

4512
03:09:38,090 --> 03:09:35,279
um

4513
03:09:41,870 --> 03:09:38,100
it's it's pretty crazy

4514
03:09:46,010 --> 03:09:41,880
so hence I also have another witness but

4515
03:09:49,610 --> 03:09:46,020
the tricky thing is that the the other

4516
03:09:54,110 --> 03:09:49,620
witness AKA my mom has a slightly

4517
03:09:56,630 --> 03:09:54,120
different version from me I know what I

4518
03:09:59,870 --> 03:09:56,640
saw I saw what I saw I know that was

4519
03:10:02,750 --> 03:09:59,880
real if my mom saw something else like

4520
03:10:03,830 --> 03:10:02,760
something more I don't know I don't know

4521
03:10:07,550 --> 03:10:03,840
if

4522
03:10:11,690 --> 03:10:07,560
I didn't see it so I just know what I

4523
03:10:14,990 --> 03:10:11,700
saw this happened in the island of iskia

4524
03:10:20,210 --> 03:10:15,000
that I don't know if you know what is an

4525
03:10:24,349 --> 03:10:20,220
island in the Gulf of Naples in southern

4526
03:10:28,070 --> 03:10:24,359
Italy and it's a

4527
03:10:31,250 --> 03:10:28,080
a terribly beautiful place like it's a

4528
03:10:33,769 --> 03:10:31,260
breath taking place I I do recommend you

4529
03:10:37,969 --> 03:10:33,779
to go there on vacation and it's no

4530
03:10:40,730 --> 03:10:37,979
stranger to UFO sadness so yeah me and

4531
03:10:44,870 --> 03:10:40,740
my mom were on vacationescia

4532
03:10:46,849 --> 03:10:44,880
and every night we like to take a stroll

4533
03:10:50,750 --> 03:10:46,859
down the streets of the island because

4534
03:10:53,210 --> 03:10:50,760
it's uh it's it's safer and so if we

4535
03:10:56,269 --> 03:10:53,220
were like walking down the street and we

4536
03:10:57,070 --> 03:10:56,279
walked all the way to

4537
03:10:59,510 --> 03:10:57,080
um

4538
03:11:03,290 --> 03:10:59,520
castellonagonese but I think I can

4539
03:11:06,590 --> 03:11:03,300
translate it as aragonese Castle it's

4540
03:11:09,230 --> 03:11:06,600
basically a castle that's in the in the

4541
03:11:14,170 --> 03:11:09,240
middle of the sea it's connected to the

4542
03:11:17,510 --> 03:11:14,180
ground with a bridge with a stone bridge

4543
03:11:21,650 --> 03:11:17,520
and so like you can walk your way from

4544
03:11:24,290 --> 03:11:21,660
the the island to this smaller Island

4545
03:11:26,809 --> 03:11:24,300
where the castle is

4546
03:11:29,510 --> 03:11:26,819
and a lot of people go there at night

4547
03:11:33,250 --> 03:11:29,520
because the castle is is closed at night

4548
03:11:36,889 --> 03:11:33,260
but it's lit up it's it looks beautiful

4549
03:11:40,070 --> 03:11:36,899
and so yeah me and my mom we walked all

4550
03:11:42,830 --> 03:11:40,080
the way there and we were like on the

4551
03:11:45,110 --> 03:11:42,840
stone bridge because a lot of people go

4552
03:11:47,269 --> 03:11:45,120
there at night it's a very romantic

4553
03:11:50,450 --> 03:11:47,279
place really cute place

4554
03:11:53,150 --> 03:11:50,460
and then and there is a small seat all

4555
03:11:55,790 --> 03:11:53,160
along the bridge I was sitting on the

4556
03:11:57,290 --> 03:11:55,800
top and and I was looking at the sky and

4557
03:12:00,170 --> 03:11:57,300
me and my mom we were looking at this

4558
03:12:02,389 --> 03:12:00,180
fight and it was like the time I want to

4559
03:12:03,969 --> 03:12:02,399
see the time and place so that I can I

4560
03:12:07,309 --> 03:12:03,979
don't know then

4561
03:12:09,590 --> 03:12:07,319
maybe someone working in the field can

4562
03:12:11,870 --> 03:12:09,600
figure out something like what happened

4563
03:12:16,670 --> 03:12:11,880
on this freaking day it wasn't the I

4564
03:12:21,830 --> 03:12:16,680
don't know it was Friday the 12th

4565
03:12:26,210 --> 03:12:21,840
um July of 2019 and the timing was

4566
03:12:28,490 --> 03:12:26,220
around 10 p.m me and my mom uh we were

4567
03:12:31,969 --> 03:12:28,500
sitting there and we were looking at the

4568
03:12:35,030 --> 03:12:31,979
sky because where we live we live in the

4569
03:12:38,750 --> 03:12:35,040
city so you know it's a pretty big deal

4570
03:12:41,870 --> 03:12:38,760
to see this guy at night for real and we

4571
03:12:46,610 --> 03:12:41,880
were looking at the stars and all of the

4572
03:12:52,250 --> 03:12:46,620
sudden the Stars start moving like we

4573
03:12:53,830 --> 03:12:52,260
see a a group of stars like moving in

4574
03:12:58,730 --> 03:12:53,840
the sky

4575
03:13:00,950 --> 03:12:58,740
flying information in a very neat

4576
03:13:03,769 --> 03:13:00,960
formation it was a pretty oblong

4577
03:13:06,469 --> 03:13:03,779
formation they were really spaced out

4578
03:13:08,570 --> 03:13:06,479
amongst one another and they were like I

4579
03:13:11,090 --> 03:13:08,580
I can't remember how I didn't count them

4580
03:13:14,929 --> 03:13:11,100
but maybe 12

4581
03:13:17,269 --> 03:13:14,939
15 something like that they were like a

4582
03:13:19,010 --> 03:13:17,279
lot of them and they were like traveling

4583
03:13:21,950 --> 03:13:19,020
through the sky and they looked like

4584
03:13:26,450 --> 03:13:21,960
stars and they looked like basically

4585
03:13:28,730 --> 03:13:26,460
very very very high Vehicles like some

4586
03:13:32,389 --> 03:13:28,740
some kind of plane that was

4587
03:13:35,990 --> 03:13:32,399
flying really high in the sky and so I

4588
03:13:40,150 --> 03:13:36,000
was like who is flying at night in this

4589
03:13:44,690 --> 03:13:40,160
formation at this time and we were like

4590
03:13:47,990 --> 03:13:44,700
whoa we saw a newfo we saw some UFOs

4591
03:13:49,550 --> 03:13:48,000
that was crazy that's a pretty big kind

4592
03:13:54,889 --> 03:13:49,560
of excitement

4593
03:13:58,370 --> 03:13:54,899
and boy if we were in for a treat like

4594
03:14:02,290 --> 03:13:58,380
we thought it was it wasn't it was only

4595
03:14:06,670 --> 03:14:02,300
just beginning because we looked again

4596
03:14:11,690 --> 03:14:06,680
at the sky I can't quite explain it

4597
03:14:16,130 --> 03:14:11,700
I we saw rings of Lights

4598
03:14:19,990 --> 03:14:16,140
they were like connecting and snapping

4599
03:14:23,269 --> 03:14:20,000
they were like made of plasma look like

4600
03:14:26,510 --> 03:14:23,279
they were rings of Lights

4601
03:14:27,769 --> 03:14:26,520
floating in the sky I think they were

4602
03:14:31,610 --> 03:14:27,779
really high

4603
03:14:35,929 --> 03:14:31,620
and if I have to like think about the

4604
03:14:38,630 --> 03:14:35,939
size I think that if they came down they

4605
03:14:42,889 --> 03:14:38,640
would have taken maybe I don't know like

4606
03:14:45,889 --> 03:14:42,899
maybe half or a quarter of the bay I

4607
03:14:49,849 --> 03:14:45,899
think low-key but surely they would have

4608
03:14:52,670 --> 03:14:49,859
they were bigger than the castle surely

4609
03:14:55,190 --> 03:14:52,680
and they were like pretty high in the

4610
03:14:58,969 --> 03:14:55,200
sky I think I think they were a little

4611
03:15:01,730 --> 03:14:58,979
lower compared to the fleet we saw first

4612
03:15:05,030 --> 03:15:01,740
but they were like I can't count count

4613
03:15:07,550 --> 03:15:05,040
them either but it's and it's a very

4614
03:15:11,030 --> 03:15:07,560
disorganized formation like they weren't

4615
03:15:12,170 --> 03:15:11,040
flying information like the fleet it was

4616
03:15:17,030 --> 03:15:12,180
just a

4617
03:15:19,730 --> 03:15:17,040
a huge bundle of rings made of light

4618
03:15:21,410 --> 03:15:19,740
like oval rings made of light and they

4619
03:15:23,690 --> 03:15:21,420
were like connecting and snapping

4620
03:15:25,910 --> 03:15:23,700
connecting is snapping and floating and

4621
03:15:29,870 --> 03:15:25,920
swimming through the sky and they were

4622
03:15:32,090 --> 03:15:29,880
like getting into conglomerates into a

4623
03:15:34,010 --> 03:15:32,100
classic like crumbs and then they were

4624
03:15:37,969 --> 03:15:34,020
like separating because they love like

4625
03:15:40,370 --> 03:15:37,979
two or three of them and then four five

4626
03:15:43,309 --> 03:15:40,380
six all together and then snap and then

4627
03:15:44,710 --> 03:15:43,319
snap and they were also sparks flying

4628
03:15:47,450 --> 03:15:44,720
through this

4629
03:15:50,389 --> 03:15:47,460
big group of things

4630
03:15:52,610 --> 03:15:50,399
and it was like you know when fireworks

4631
03:15:54,469 --> 03:15:52,620
go off and there are those little sparks

4632
03:15:57,410 --> 03:15:54,479
flying those little Sparks they were

4633
03:16:01,610 --> 03:15:57,420
like emitting those little Sparks and

4634
03:16:04,910 --> 03:16:01,620
and the cute thing is that they weren't

4635
03:16:07,070 --> 03:16:04,920
like a plain white they were they were

4636
03:16:11,330 --> 03:16:07,080
really really colorful they were like

4637
03:16:15,469 --> 03:16:11,340
for me this is where my story my mom's

4638
03:16:19,910 --> 03:16:15,479
Story start diverging a little I saw a

4639
03:16:23,389 --> 03:16:19,920
prevalence of greens Reds and yellows my

4640
03:16:25,309 --> 03:16:23,399
mom agrees but she says that she also

4641
03:16:27,950 --> 03:16:25,319
saw some blue and pink

4642
03:16:31,610 --> 03:16:27,960
I didn't see as much of a blue and pink

4643
03:16:35,510 --> 03:16:31,620
in my opinion but I saw what I saw I saw

4644
03:16:37,550 --> 03:16:35,520
green yellow and red rings and they were

4645
03:16:40,309 --> 03:16:37,560
like at least two of them

4646
03:16:42,830 --> 03:16:40,319
they were like these two big groups of

4647
03:16:45,290 --> 03:16:42,840
like connected rings and then one of

4648
03:16:49,490 --> 03:16:45,300
them like kind of dissipated and the

4649
03:16:53,389 --> 03:16:49,500
other one instead kept being like

4650
03:16:56,090 --> 03:16:53,399
I can make up words it kept itself

4651
03:16:59,210 --> 03:16:56,100
together and they were like they looked

4652
03:17:02,090 --> 03:16:59,220
like they were rolling or like swimming

4653
03:17:05,090 --> 03:17:02,100
through the sky it's like it was like

4654
03:17:08,150 --> 03:17:05,100
the the fleet we saw first like acted as

4655
03:17:09,370 --> 03:17:08,160
a sort of bodyguards for these things in

4656
03:17:12,889 --> 03:17:09,380
the sky

4657
03:17:15,950 --> 03:17:12,899
and it did I was really confused and

4658
03:17:21,349 --> 03:17:15,960
because I I was like this is not

4659
03:17:24,469 --> 03:17:21,359
surely this is not a in vehicle like

4660
03:17:27,769 --> 03:17:24,479
these are not planes are these are not

4661
03:17:31,809 --> 03:17:27,779
ships spaceships or whatever

4662
03:17:34,849 --> 03:17:31,819
and neither they are living beings right

4663
03:17:38,450 --> 03:17:34,859
because the only way I can describe it

4664
03:17:41,769 --> 03:17:38,460
is that they were living light living

4665
03:17:45,250 --> 03:17:41,779
plasma because they didn't look like

4666
03:17:49,610 --> 03:17:45,260
living conscious beings they had nothing

4667
03:17:52,490 --> 03:17:49,620
human or like animal-esque

4668
03:17:55,550 --> 03:17:52,500
if I can say so they were literally

4669
03:17:57,889 --> 03:17:55,560
rings of light but they looked like they

4670
03:18:01,190 --> 03:17:57,899
knew where to go they were like flying

4671
03:18:03,950 --> 03:18:01,200
together in this very disorganized group

4672
03:18:07,190 --> 03:18:03,960
formation they were rolling and swimming

4673
03:18:09,670 --> 03:18:07,200
for the sky so it to me looked like they

4674
03:18:13,250 --> 03:18:09,680
they had a sort of I don't know

4675
03:18:15,410 --> 03:18:13,260
intelligence like they were like we go

4676
03:18:19,550 --> 03:18:15,420
this way but it didn't look anything

4677
03:18:23,269 --> 03:18:19,560
like living creatures it's ah

4678
03:18:28,910 --> 03:18:23,279
and I the closest thing that I can

4679
03:18:32,030 --> 03:18:28,920
compare them to is a power up that I

4680
03:18:35,210 --> 03:18:32,040
that you can find in a video game called

4681
03:18:38,269 --> 03:18:35,220
chicken brothers and Invaders Invaders

4682
03:18:41,150 --> 03:18:38,279
yeah Invaders and you will see like the

4683
03:18:43,670 --> 03:18:41,160
first search the first search result the

4684
03:18:48,530 --> 03:18:43,680
first pick is this like like I told you

4685
03:18:51,429 --> 03:18:48,540
this triangle made of a free uh oval uh

4686
03:18:55,429 --> 03:18:51,439
rings of light connected red

4687
03:18:57,710 --> 03:18:55,439
yellow and green and that is exactly

4688
03:18:59,750 --> 03:18:57,720
what I saw in the sky I and I'm not

4689
03:19:02,570 --> 03:18:59,760
making this up because I showed it to my

4690
03:19:06,230 --> 03:19:02,580
mom and my mom was like holy crap this

4691
03:19:08,150 --> 03:19:06,240
is our UFO and so like it's not that I

4692
03:19:10,010 --> 03:19:08,160
that I'm like oh my God you saw it in

4693
03:19:11,389 --> 03:19:10,020
the sky because you play the game no no

4694
03:19:17,210 --> 03:19:11,399
no like it's

4695
03:19:20,450 --> 03:19:17,220
just a very very very neat comparison

4696
03:19:23,090 --> 03:19:20,460
so you can imagine how high I felt but

4697
03:19:24,230 --> 03:19:23,100
not how mom felt because my mom she was

4698
03:19:30,110 --> 03:19:24,240
chill

4699
03:19:35,389 --> 03:19:30,120
aliens I knew they existed

4700
03:19:39,710 --> 03:19:35,399
she was like Mom hi hi guys just chill I

4701
03:19:44,889 --> 03:19:39,720
was screaming I was like I I scram like

4702
03:19:51,469 --> 03:19:48,769
I was like I don't accept it I don't

4703
03:19:53,510 --> 03:19:51,479
accept this I was like screaming under

4704
03:19:56,030 --> 03:19:53,520
the night sky and then the aliens

4705
03:19:58,429 --> 03:19:56,040
whatever whatever they were I was like I

4706
03:19:59,710 --> 03:19:58,439
don't accept this I don't accept this

4707
03:20:05,330 --> 03:19:59,720
that's

4708
03:20:07,910 --> 03:20:05,340
I I was flabbergasted so I was screaming

4709
03:20:12,650 --> 03:20:07,920
in this belief like I don't accept this

4710
03:20:15,410 --> 03:20:12,660
and I also like slowly made myself made

4711
03:20:17,330 --> 03:20:15,420
made my way back a little lower like I

4712
03:20:20,150 --> 03:20:17,340
told you I was sitting on

4713
03:20:22,070 --> 03:20:20,160
sort of bench let's call it bench and

4714
03:20:25,490 --> 03:20:22,080
then it was there was a lower bench and

4715
03:20:27,650 --> 03:20:25,500
I went from this to this because I was

4716
03:20:30,769 --> 03:20:27,660
like I'm gonna fall I'm gonna launch it

4717
03:20:32,830 --> 03:20:30,779
fall onto the rocks and so I I I said

4718
03:20:35,990 --> 03:20:32,840
lower because I was like

4719
03:20:39,410 --> 03:20:36,000
let me take a safer seat let me take it

4720
03:20:43,550 --> 03:20:39,420
I I'm not feeling well and

4721
03:20:48,590 --> 03:20:43,560
so my mom worked out her camera but our

4722
03:20:51,790 --> 03:20:48,600
tech gadgets back then and Loki now uh

4723
03:20:54,830 --> 03:20:51,800
sucked my mom has a very sucky camera

4724
03:20:57,710 --> 03:20:54,840
when she took the camera and started

4725
03:21:00,170 --> 03:20:57,720
recording like it came out out really

4726
03:21:04,730 --> 03:21:00,180
sucky you can only see a bunch of lights

4727
03:21:05,809 --> 03:21:04,740
and it doesn't look really you know it

4728
03:21:08,450 --> 03:21:05,819
doesn't

4729
03:21:09,950 --> 03:21:08,460
like you you don't see the ringlets in

4730
03:21:13,910 --> 03:21:09,960
there you know

4731
03:21:16,670 --> 03:21:13,920
their look how they actually did like

4732
03:21:20,929 --> 03:21:16,680
you only see like some shiny dots in the

4733
03:21:24,349 --> 03:21:20,939
sky it looks horrible and so uh we don't

4734
03:21:28,130 --> 03:21:24,359
have basically anything to prove what we

4735
03:21:30,490 --> 03:21:28,140
saw because the footage we took and the

4736
03:21:33,590 --> 03:21:30,500
picks we took they suck and you can't

4737
03:21:37,429 --> 03:21:33,600
literally tell anything like it's just

4738
03:21:38,450 --> 03:21:37,439
like a dark sky and some random sparkly

4739
03:21:40,010 --> 03:21:38,460
dots

4740
03:21:44,929 --> 03:21:40,020
so yeah

4741
03:21:46,790 --> 03:21:44,939
only to make matters worse I regret this

4742
03:21:50,530 --> 03:21:46,800
is at least a decision that I will

4743
03:21:53,809 --> 03:21:50,540
regret my entire life to not scream

4744
03:21:58,370 --> 03:21:53,819
people look up

4745
03:22:03,349 --> 03:21:58,380
Frick look the F up nobody was looking

4746
03:22:05,929 --> 03:22:03,359
up I swear nobody like there there were

4747
03:22:09,349 --> 03:22:05,939
a few people around us it wasn't crowded

4748
03:22:13,370 --> 03:22:09,359
because at that moment in the night like

4749
03:22:15,710 --> 03:22:13,380
pretty lonely and it's peaceful but at

4750
03:22:19,550 --> 03:22:15,720
least a couple people like there were a

4751
03:22:23,510 --> 03:22:19,560
couple people around us and I and my mom

4752
03:22:28,370 --> 03:22:23,520
like we didn't scream people look up

4753
03:22:31,490 --> 03:22:28,380
like there are literal UFOs over our

4754
03:22:34,070 --> 03:22:31,500
heads I I didn't do nothing I was in

4755
03:22:37,309 --> 03:22:34,080
shock but I still regret that I didn't

4756
03:22:40,610 --> 03:22:37,319
do nothing and my mom didn't do nothing

4757
03:22:42,190 --> 03:22:40,620
and we say it all the time we should

4758
03:22:45,349 --> 03:22:42,200
have like

4759
03:22:46,610 --> 03:22:45,359
screamed to the top of our lungs but we

4760
03:22:50,330 --> 03:22:46,620
didn't do anything

4761
03:22:53,809 --> 03:22:50,340
and so yeah this is our our secret our

4762
03:22:56,330 --> 03:22:53,819
our thing nobody else saw it and it's

4763
03:22:59,510 --> 03:22:56,340
ridiculous because that's part of the

4764
03:23:03,050 --> 03:22:59,520
bridge it's lonely but if you walk your

4765
03:23:04,969 --> 03:23:03,060
way towards the island it the bridge is

4766
03:23:09,229 --> 03:23:04,979
really crowded like a lot of people go

4767
03:23:13,190 --> 03:23:09,239
there to to party and so like how how

4768
03:23:15,349 --> 03:23:13,200
stupid humans are like there is like a

4769
03:23:17,990 --> 03:23:15,359
bunch of people there nobody looks up to

4770
03:23:20,830 --> 03:23:18,000
the sky to that monstrosity

4771
03:23:24,349 --> 03:23:20,840
like I swear it it hits you really hard

4772
03:23:27,410 --> 03:23:24,359
and they were actually really pretty and

4773
03:23:30,650 --> 03:23:27,420
so yeah I don't I don't wanna no offense

4774
03:23:32,469 --> 03:23:30,660
alien like I didn't say monstrosity as

4775
03:23:36,469 --> 03:23:32,479
an offense

4776
03:23:38,870 --> 03:23:36,479
and yeah I was like also terrified I was

4777
03:23:41,150 --> 03:23:38,880
never terrified because I was like these

4778
03:23:43,269 --> 03:23:41,160
are here and they're like they're so

4779
03:23:46,309 --> 03:23:43,279
close to the Earth and

4780
03:23:48,410 --> 03:23:46,319
what are they going to do like I was

4781
03:23:50,630 --> 03:23:48,420
like are they gonna like laser me right

4782
03:23:53,269 --> 03:23:50,640
now like I'm looking at them do they

4783
03:23:55,309 --> 03:23:53,279
want me to look at them or like how are

4784
03:23:57,530 --> 03:23:55,319
they gonna get defensive and like I said

4785
03:24:01,190 --> 03:23:57,540
like shoelace there or anything it was

4786
03:24:05,269 --> 03:24:01,200
like so I I also I think I also didn't

4787
03:24:06,410 --> 03:24:05,279
scream because I was like oh frick

4788
03:24:12,410 --> 03:24:06,420
they're gonna

4789
03:24:16,309 --> 03:24:12,420
and yeah but they didn't and so since

4790
03:24:19,250 --> 03:24:16,319
since then I'm like I wish I I saw them

4791
03:24:20,690 --> 03:24:19,260
again like I I wish that I will see them

4792
03:24:24,050 --> 03:24:20,700
again one day because they look cute

4793
03:24:28,910 --> 03:24:24,060
they look hella cute and and so yeah

4794
03:24:30,889 --> 03:24:28,920
after this uh really uh chaotic moment

4795
03:24:33,290 --> 03:24:30,899
of this

4796
03:24:37,309 --> 03:24:33,300
um really shocking moment me and my mom

4797
03:24:41,510 --> 03:24:37,319
we went to a bar and we ordered two lava

4798
03:24:43,849 --> 03:24:41,520
cakes and and try to calm ourselves down

4799
03:24:47,570 --> 03:24:43,859
in front of the chocolate lava cakes

4800
03:24:51,590 --> 03:24:47,580
because that was like the right thing to

4801
03:24:56,510 --> 03:24:51,600
do in that moment so yeah and that's the

4802
03:25:01,429 --> 03:24:59,690
hey Ryan what's up my name is David all

4803
03:25:04,550 --> 03:25:01,439
right so first off let's start this

4804
03:25:09,110 --> 03:25:04,560
story off with a dream that I had back

4805
03:25:11,570 --> 03:25:09,120
around 2016. I'm asleep and I wake up

4806
03:25:15,469 --> 03:25:11,580
and it is cold

4807
03:25:18,830 --> 03:25:15,479
and uh I can feel the breeze all around

4808
03:25:23,809 --> 03:25:18,840
and I'll open my eyes I look up and the

4809
03:25:26,269 --> 03:25:23,819
roof is gone it's it's just like it

4810
03:25:29,210 --> 03:25:26,279
never existed it was almost like they

4811
03:25:32,750 --> 03:25:29,220
built a house with no roof uh I could

4812
03:25:38,570 --> 03:25:32,760
see this craft up above this this big

4813
03:25:41,030 --> 03:25:38,580
bright circular disc object and I

4814
03:25:45,769 --> 03:25:41,040
remember being coming down it was like

4815
03:25:47,750 --> 03:25:45,779
whitish yellowish in color and it picked

4816
03:25:50,330 --> 03:25:47,760
me up into the air I couldn't remember

4817
03:25:53,570 --> 03:25:50,340
watching

4818
03:25:56,210 --> 03:25:53,580
as as I was gaining altitude rising up

4819
03:25:58,490 --> 03:25:56,220
in the ship I was looking down watching

4820
03:26:00,650 --> 03:25:58,500
my feet dangling I remember looking at

4821
03:26:01,510 --> 03:26:00,660
my socks and I remember how cold it was

4822
03:26:02,570 --> 03:26:01,520
in the dream

4823
03:26:04,729 --> 03:26:02,580
[Music]

4824
03:26:07,849 --> 03:26:04,739
um when I got into the craft and I

4825
03:26:10,250 --> 03:26:07,859
wanted to say this I was so happy that

4826
03:26:12,469 --> 03:26:10,260
that they were a year you know that the

4827
03:26:15,229 --> 03:26:12,479
truth is finally came

4828
03:26:17,030 --> 03:26:15,239
um when I got into the craft there was

4829
03:26:19,729 --> 03:26:17,040
other people in there they didn't know

4830
03:26:21,229 --> 03:26:19,739
what was going on I didn't either

4831
03:26:23,330 --> 03:26:21,239
but

4832
03:26:26,090 --> 03:26:23,340
the other people didn't have the feeling

4833
03:26:27,950 --> 03:26:26,100
I had that's for sure

4834
03:26:30,830 --> 03:26:27,960
um and and I don't remember anything

4835
03:26:31,320 --> 03:26:30,840
else about that dream but it was cool

4836
03:26:32,750 --> 03:26:31,330
right

4837
03:26:36,650 --> 03:26:32,760
[Music]

4838
03:26:39,769 --> 03:26:36,660
um let's fast forward a couple months uh

4839
03:26:41,269 --> 03:26:39,779
me and my girlfriend Rose at the time

4840
03:26:44,809 --> 03:26:41,279
right

4841
03:26:47,750 --> 03:26:44,819
we're driving through Hamilton New

4842
03:26:50,030 --> 03:26:47,760
Jersey uh where

4843
03:26:54,429 --> 03:26:50,040
where I'm from

4844
03:26:58,130 --> 03:26:54,439
and we're going out towards Yardville

4845
03:26:59,929 --> 03:26:58,140
Bordentown area and there's a spot that

4846
03:27:03,469 --> 03:26:59,939
we used to go to because it was right

4847
03:27:06,170 --> 03:27:03,479
off the road and nobody could see you

4848
03:27:09,110 --> 03:27:06,180
it was just like completely surrounded

4849
03:27:11,870 --> 03:27:09,120
by trees because they were gonna build

4850
03:27:15,410 --> 03:27:11,880
uh Housing Development but they never

4851
03:27:18,830 --> 03:27:15,420
did it back there I guess you know

4852
03:27:22,790 --> 03:27:18,840
the the housing market or whatever

4853
03:27:25,790 --> 03:27:22,800
but it was just nothing you know there

4854
03:27:29,690 --> 03:27:25,800
was about a quarter mile road that led

4855
03:27:33,590 --> 03:27:29,700
down there just a strip surrounded by

4856
03:27:35,389 --> 03:27:33,600
um woods so we used to go back there and

4857
03:27:37,010 --> 03:27:35,399
we would sit in the back of the hatch of

4858
03:27:39,769 --> 03:27:37,020
the car at the Honda

4859
03:27:41,510 --> 03:27:39,779
and we would look up into the sky we

4860
03:27:44,570 --> 03:27:41,520
would watch the stars because we used to

4861
03:27:47,690 --> 03:27:44,580
love doing that uh that was something

4862
03:27:50,269 --> 03:27:47,700
that we we did often and and we love

4863
03:27:52,969 --> 03:27:50,279
doing it and we believe that there's

4864
03:27:54,889 --> 03:27:52,979
something else out there you know I want

4865
03:27:57,410 --> 03:27:54,899
to say that when I was younger I didn't

4866
03:27:59,450 --> 03:27:57,420
believe in anything like this and I

4867
03:28:04,309 --> 03:27:59,460
thought that anybody that did was crazy

4868
03:28:07,370 --> 03:28:04,319
you know and I came to believe

4869
03:28:09,410 --> 03:28:07,380
there's things going on that that we

4870
03:28:12,410 --> 03:28:09,420
don't know about or that that we can't

4871
03:28:14,510 --> 03:28:12,420
explain and humans don't know and

4872
03:28:15,889 --> 03:28:14,520
everything you know people act like

4873
03:28:17,690 --> 03:28:15,899
they're God and that they know

4874
03:28:21,290 --> 03:28:17,700
everything and just because they can't

4875
03:28:24,110 --> 03:28:21,300
see something and doesn't exist well you

4876
03:28:26,870 --> 03:28:24,120
can't see oxygen can you

4877
03:28:30,530 --> 03:28:26,880
but it keeps us alive

4878
03:28:33,349 --> 03:28:30,540
I I sort of try to keep open mind about

4879
03:28:38,630 --> 03:28:33,359
things especially things that are

4880
03:28:41,630 --> 03:28:38,640
reported all over the world by people uh

4881
03:28:44,630 --> 03:28:41,640
in in huge numbers

4882
03:28:46,429 --> 03:28:44,640
uh I I think that's very alarming I

4883
03:28:47,570 --> 03:28:46,439
think it's scary

4884
03:28:51,290 --> 03:28:47,580
but

4885
03:28:53,150 --> 03:28:51,300
um I'm sorry when when we were back in

4886
03:28:55,849 --> 03:28:53,160
this area

4887
03:28:58,670 --> 03:28:55,859
uh

4888
03:29:01,729 --> 03:28:58,680
I remember that we saw these lights off

4889
03:29:04,309 --> 03:29:01,739
in the distance it it looked like a

4890
03:29:07,330 --> 03:29:04,319
bright like white light sort of like

4891
03:29:10,070 --> 03:29:07,340
maybe with like a yellowish tin at times

4892
03:29:12,469 --> 03:29:10,080
and we're like joking with each other

4893
03:29:15,229 --> 03:29:12,479
because we're trying to figure out what

4894
03:29:18,050 --> 03:29:15,239
it is and we're like shooting each

4895
03:29:20,150 --> 03:29:18,060
other's ideas down you know it can't be

4896
03:29:23,510 --> 03:29:20,160
this because of this or that

4897
03:29:25,670 --> 03:29:23,520
and I remember

4898
03:29:28,550 --> 03:29:25,680
um you know it was just something that

4899
03:29:30,889 --> 03:29:28,560
we took notice of uh there was a lot of

4900
03:29:33,710 --> 03:29:30,899
other air traffic in the area because I

4901
03:29:37,190 --> 03:29:33,720
do live by a lot of military bases there

4902
03:29:40,550 --> 03:29:37,200
was helicopters in the area also uh

4903
03:29:43,610 --> 03:29:40,560
passenger planes going by big ones uh

4904
03:29:46,729 --> 03:29:43,620
but these objects were just sort of

4905
03:29:49,790 --> 03:29:46,739
floating there for a long time too it

4906
03:29:52,849 --> 03:29:49,800
seemed like and

4907
03:29:56,929 --> 03:29:52,859
um we actually noticed the other ones

4908
03:29:59,929 --> 03:29:56,939
often in other parts and and then we

4909
03:30:02,809 --> 03:29:59,939
would sort of just not know where they

4910
03:30:06,769 --> 03:30:02,819
went I guess maybe we lost track of them

4911
03:30:09,650 --> 03:30:06,779
but I remember that I was holding her we

4912
03:30:11,690 --> 03:30:09,660
were looking face to face and um you

4913
03:30:14,210 --> 03:30:11,700
know it was intimate moment because at

4914
03:30:16,910 --> 03:30:14,220
the the time I loved this this girl and

4915
03:30:19,090 --> 03:30:16,920
I remember just looking in her eyes she

4916
03:30:23,150 --> 03:30:19,100
was beautiful that night

4917
03:30:26,210 --> 03:30:23,160
and you know it was uh

4918
03:30:30,650 --> 03:30:26,220
it was a good memory you know

4919
03:30:32,170 --> 03:30:30,660
but as as I'm looking at her I realized

4920
03:30:37,190 --> 03:30:32,180
that there's

4921
03:30:40,370 --> 03:30:37,200
lasers everywhere and I'm like what the

4922
03:30:41,990 --> 03:30:40,380
f what the f I was like rose rose look

4923
03:30:44,450 --> 03:30:42,000
look look

4924
03:30:48,110 --> 03:30:44,460
um you can see these laser dots on top

4925
03:30:50,090 --> 03:30:48,120
of tree lines okay so it wasn't coming

4926
03:30:53,269 --> 03:30:50,100
from somebody on the ground I could tell

4927
03:30:57,110 --> 03:30:53,279
you that because you could see it on top

4928
03:30:59,809 --> 03:30:57,120
of the tree lines uh it was surrounding

4929
03:31:03,530 --> 03:30:59,819
us literally about the size of like a

4930
03:31:06,050 --> 03:31:03,540
football field and a 360 degree angle

4931
03:31:11,269 --> 03:31:06,060
okay

4932
03:31:14,809 --> 03:31:11,279
um it was really cool I was I was really

4933
03:31:17,269 --> 03:31:14,819
happy we we saw it and we were literally

4934
03:31:19,429 --> 03:31:17,279
jumping up and down shaking our hands in

4935
03:31:22,610 --> 03:31:19,439
the airs like little kids and Christmas

4936
03:31:23,630 --> 03:31:22,620
you know it just felt like such a cool

4937
03:31:25,250 --> 03:31:23,640
thing

4938
03:31:28,010 --> 03:31:25,260
and

4939
03:31:30,250 --> 03:31:28,020
um I remember that it didn't hurt our

4940
03:31:34,190 --> 03:31:30,260
skin it didn't burn our eyes

4941
03:31:35,929 --> 03:31:34,200
and I remember one thing one thing that

4942
03:31:39,590 --> 03:31:35,939
was alarming I know that lasers can

4943
03:31:41,570 --> 03:31:39,600
cause cancer and other type of damage

4944
03:31:44,450 --> 03:31:41,580
um I didn't get sick or anything like

4945
03:31:47,809 --> 03:31:44,460
that or experience any type of pain or

4946
03:31:51,050 --> 03:31:47,819
discomfort but um I swear I wanted to

4947
03:31:53,870 --> 03:31:51,060
get out of there all I want to do so I

4948
03:31:55,510 --> 03:31:53,880
want to say that I acknowledge their

4949
03:31:58,250 --> 03:31:55,520
presence by

4950
03:32:01,729 --> 03:31:58,260
blinking my high beams on and off three

4951
03:32:05,330 --> 03:32:01,739
times and then turning my lights on and

4952
03:32:07,969 --> 03:32:05,340
off three times and then we uh drove out

4953
03:32:10,429 --> 03:32:07,979
of there and we were driving back

4954
03:32:14,210 --> 03:32:10,439
towards like Trenton Trenton makes World

4955
03:32:17,389 --> 03:32:14,220
takes bridge and uh it felt like they

4956
03:32:19,910 --> 03:32:17,399
were almost following us uh before that

4957
03:32:21,590 --> 03:32:19,920
though before we went to the Trenton

4958
03:32:23,809 --> 03:32:21,600
makes World takes Bridge around that

4959
03:32:28,010 --> 03:32:23,819
area we were driving through Hamilton

4960
03:32:30,229 --> 03:32:28,020
Square also and we could still see these

4961
03:32:33,110 --> 03:32:30,239
lights which we thought that it could be

4962
03:32:36,370 --> 03:32:33,120
these ones and it almost felt like they

4963
03:32:39,650 --> 03:32:36,380
were following us

4964
03:32:42,229 --> 03:32:39,660
and you know that's that's just the

4965
03:32:44,450 --> 03:32:42,239
paranoia setting him because you know

4966
03:32:45,889 --> 03:32:44,460
when you have an experience like that

4967
03:32:51,769 --> 03:32:45,899
it's

4968
03:32:53,450 --> 03:32:51,779
don't know what it was you know I don't

4969
03:32:55,849 --> 03:32:53,460
know what the craft was because I

4970
03:32:58,849 --> 03:32:55,859
couldn't see the object I'm gonna see

4971
03:33:01,610 --> 03:32:58,859
what shape it was all I saw was the

4972
03:33:04,370 --> 03:33:01,620
light and whatever was shot in the laser

4973
03:33:07,010 --> 03:33:04,380
on us what was amazing is that the

4974
03:33:09,410 --> 03:33:07,020
lasers were still

4975
03:33:12,530 --> 03:33:09,420
and we couldn't even see a craft

4976
03:33:15,349 --> 03:33:12,540
anywhere near us at that point so that

4977
03:33:17,330 --> 03:33:15,359
that was pretty crazy you know that's

4978
03:33:21,469 --> 03:33:17,340
some

4979
03:33:23,210 --> 03:33:21,479
pretty good technology I gotta say

4980
03:33:24,229 --> 03:33:23,220
so

4981
03:33:27,769 --> 03:33:24,239
um

4982
03:33:33,050 --> 03:33:27,779
yeah you know I I want to say also that

4983
03:33:35,690 --> 03:33:33,060
around that time I had a sleep paralysis

4984
03:33:38,570 --> 03:33:35,700
uh experience

4985
03:33:41,510 --> 03:33:38,580
and I could see something it felt like

4986
03:33:43,570 --> 03:33:41,520
something was behind me okay and I still

4987
03:33:46,550 --> 03:33:43,580
get creeped out even thinking about it

4988
03:33:48,530 --> 03:33:46,560
and I couldn't see what it was because

4989
03:33:50,330 --> 03:33:48,540
it was just a dark figure it looked like

4990
03:33:54,110 --> 03:33:50,340
it had a hood on it looked like it was

4991
03:33:57,170 --> 03:33:54,120
all black but with substance to it and

4992
03:34:01,269 --> 03:33:57,180
it was scary as

4993
03:34:04,610 --> 03:34:01,279
anything okay it's like

4994
03:34:06,710 --> 03:34:04,620
something you just one of the worst

4995
03:34:09,170 --> 03:34:06,720
feelings you could ever experience and

4996
03:34:10,910 --> 03:34:09,180
then you start worrying about other

4997
03:34:13,010 --> 03:34:10,920
people in the house is this happening

4998
03:34:18,050 --> 03:34:13,020
also at the same time

4999
03:34:19,429 --> 03:34:18,060
so it's it's disturbing to say the least

5000
03:34:23,269 --> 03:34:19,439
but

5001
03:34:25,849 --> 03:34:23,279
um yeah I want to urge people if you see

5002
03:34:28,729 --> 03:34:25,859
something say something because this is

5003
03:34:30,410 --> 03:34:28,739
the most significant

5004
03:34:34,910 --> 03:34:30,420
Fame

5005
03:34:36,530 --> 03:34:34,920
that we could think of you know and I

5006
03:34:39,889 --> 03:34:36,540
believe that there's things being

5007
03:34:42,950 --> 03:34:39,899
suppressed I'm finally happy at least

5008
03:34:45,769 --> 03:34:42,960
that the government's admitting to UFOs

5009
03:34:46,969 --> 03:34:45,779
and stuff like that

5010
03:34:50,330 --> 03:34:46,979
um

5011
03:34:55,490 --> 03:34:50,340
so yeah uh where was this a military

5012
03:34:59,570 --> 03:34:55,500
craft that shine shine the laser on us

5013
03:35:02,150 --> 03:34:59,580
um if it was why would they be doing

5014
03:35:05,030 --> 03:35:02,160
that what's the purpose of that is it

5015
03:35:08,269 --> 03:35:05,040
maybe just like a training exercise for

5016
03:35:09,190 --> 03:35:08,279
some type of uh bomber maybe I don't

5017
03:35:16,250 --> 03:35:09,200
know

5018
03:35:19,910 --> 03:35:16,260
love to hear feedback on this if

5019
03:35:20,809 --> 03:35:19,920
anybody's had a similar experience you

5020
03:35:24,729 --> 03:35:20,819
know

5021
03:35:26,710 --> 03:35:24,739
but uh I just want to say thank you for

5022
03:35:29,570 --> 03:35:26,720
hearing my story

5023
03:35:32,990 --> 03:35:29,580
uh I think it's awesome what you're

5024
03:35:34,389 --> 03:35:33,000
doing man you know uh keep up the great

5025
03:35:38,170 --> 03:35:34,399
work dude

5026
03:35:39,710 --> 03:35:38,180
and uh you know I just want to study

5027
03:35:41,690 --> 03:35:39,720
[Music]

5028
03:35:44,889 --> 03:35:41,700
be safe

5029
03:35:47,090 --> 03:35:44,899
these times are crazy right now

5030
03:35:49,370 --> 03:35:47,100
and it's

5031
03:35:51,110 --> 03:35:49,380
I want to say to everybody keep your

5032
03:35:54,410 --> 03:35:51,120
heads up through this

5033
03:35:57,530 --> 03:35:54,420
and have the strength to keep moving on

5034
03:36:00,320 --> 03:35:57,540
all right and if anyone hasn't said it

5035
03:36:05,809 --> 03:36:00,330
today I love you thank you

5036
03:36:07,010 --> 03:36:05,819
[Music]

5037
03:36:08,990 --> 03:36:07,020
hi Brian

5038
03:36:10,370 --> 03:36:09,000
this is Paul from the UK

5039
03:36:12,229 --> 03:36:10,380
I'm gonna tell you about two of my

5040
03:36:15,110 --> 03:36:12,239
experiences that I've had

5041
03:36:16,309 --> 03:36:15,120
um with what I think it's UAP as far as

5042
03:36:19,670 --> 03:36:16,319
I can tell

5043
03:36:22,190 --> 03:36:19,680
uh last year in June I was at work

5044
03:36:24,290 --> 03:36:22,200
um out in the yard loading the Lorry

5045
03:36:26,750 --> 03:36:24,300
that's what I did my job just forklift

5046
03:36:28,969 --> 03:36:26,760
driver that exciting

5047
03:36:30,050 --> 03:36:28,979
um it was a clear blue sky it's June

5048
03:36:32,269 --> 03:36:30,060
it's lovely

5049
03:36:35,269 --> 03:36:32,279
and I'm looking at the sky quite a bit

5050
03:36:37,250 --> 03:36:35,279
because what's been going on in the past

5051
03:36:38,750 --> 03:36:37,260
um with all the UAP activity you're

5052
03:36:41,210 --> 03:36:38,760
always looking up trying to find

5053
03:36:43,910 --> 03:36:41,220
something maybe see something

5054
03:36:46,550 --> 03:36:43,920
and they're going across the sky nice

5055
03:36:48,650 --> 03:36:46,560
steady Pace there's this

5056
03:36:50,150 --> 03:36:48,660
well I'd say Tic Tac but that's

5057
03:36:52,429 --> 03:36:50,160
obviously I'm going to reference that

5058
03:36:55,309 --> 03:36:52,439
because of the shape but it was that

5059
03:36:58,190 --> 03:36:55,319
shape and it was moving slowly it had no

5060
03:37:00,410 --> 03:36:58,200
wings had no tail it was just moving

5061
03:37:02,090 --> 03:37:00,420
slowly across the sky

5062
03:37:03,530 --> 03:37:02,100
so I took a couple of photographs with

5063
03:37:04,550 --> 03:37:03,540
the iPhone

5064
03:37:07,070 --> 03:37:04,560
um

5065
03:37:10,010 --> 03:37:07,080
and thought that was the wind was

5066
03:37:11,690 --> 03:37:10,020
blowing behind me which in our yard it

5067
03:37:13,610 --> 03:37:11,700
either blows up the yard or down the

5068
03:37:15,769 --> 03:37:13,620
yard because we we load empty boxes and

5069
03:37:18,229 --> 03:37:15,779
the winds are real pain in the ass

5070
03:37:21,290 --> 03:37:18,239
so you know the drives goes up the yard

5071
03:37:23,269 --> 03:37:21,300
or down the yard which is north west I

5072
03:37:26,389 --> 03:37:23,279
think it's Northwest or north east and

5073
03:37:28,969 --> 03:37:26,399
south west south east if you like this

5074
03:37:31,130 --> 03:37:28,979
thing was going across across the yard

5075
03:37:34,490 --> 03:37:31,140
so the wind was blowing at it it wasn't

5076
03:37:36,410 --> 03:37:34,500
blowing with it so yeah that that was a

5077
03:37:38,450 --> 03:37:36,420
weird thing the pictures obviously with

5078
03:37:42,349 --> 03:37:38,460
an iPhone weren't great

5079
03:37:44,690 --> 03:37:42,359
um small but you zoomed in like it's it

5080
03:37:46,190 --> 03:37:44,700
you could see it's not a plane Midwest

5081
03:37:48,469 --> 03:37:46,200
did make a comment about it being a

5082
03:37:50,030 --> 03:37:48,479
plane a slow-moving plane but God you

5083
03:37:53,389 --> 03:37:50,040
can see there's no Wing there's there's

5084
03:37:56,090 --> 03:37:53,399
nothing it's just it's just a shape that

5085
03:37:58,130 --> 03:37:56,100
it was going across the sky anyway

5086
03:37:59,269 --> 03:37:58,140
that's what the first one was then a few

5087
03:38:02,030 --> 03:37:59,279
weeks back

5088
03:38:04,910 --> 03:38:02,040
um I was in the garden at home

5089
03:38:06,650 --> 03:38:04,920
um just putting out some washing and I

5090
03:38:10,309 --> 03:38:06,660
live in the countryside we live quite

5091
03:38:12,469 --> 03:38:10,319
Rural and I heard a big jet come in now

5092
03:38:14,389 --> 03:38:12,479
it was quite low but I couldn't see it

5093
03:38:16,550 --> 03:38:14,399
but I heard it it was coming across it

5094
03:38:20,830 --> 03:38:16,560
so have a look see what it is and then

5095
03:38:25,550 --> 03:38:23,030
like that sort of thing

5096
03:38:27,110 --> 03:38:25,560
almost like you get if it's a helicopter

5097
03:38:29,090 --> 03:38:27,120
is going past that's kind of

5098
03:38:30,650 --> 03:38:29,100
reverberation through the air you felt

5099
03:38:33,769 --> 03:38:30,660
it in the air

5100
03:38:36,769 --> 03:38:33,779
and I looked up this jet came over and

5101
03:38:38,450 --> 03:38:36,779
flew across the garden across my house

5102
03:38:39,590 --> 03:38:38,460
not really low but it was below the

5103
03:38:41,330 --> 03:38:39,600
cloud

5104
03:38:43,010 --> 03:38:41,340
and right behind it

5105
03:38:46,250 --> 03:38:43,020
was a sphere

5106
03:38:48,349 --> 03:38:46,260
and this sphere was maybe 15 20 feet

5107
03:38:50,510 --> 03:38:48,359
behind this jet now this jet was like a

5108
03:38:54,469 --> 03:38:50,520
737 it was it was it was a fairly large

5109
03:38:55,910 --> 03:38:54,479
jet All White Plain White Jet with a

5110
03:38:57,349 --> 03:38:55,920
yellow Insignia on the tail that's all I

5111
03:38:58,070 --> 03:38:57,359
remember is this yellow Insignia on the

5112
03:38:59,809 --> 03:38:58,080
tail

5113
03:39:01,429 --> 03:38:59,819
this thing flew across and this thing

5114
03:39:02,690 --> 03:39:01,439
had a sphere following behind it it was

5115
03:39:06,349 --> 03:39:02,700
following it

5116
03:39:08,450 --> 03:39:06,359
if you just look at it what's that

5117
03:39:10,550 --> 03:39:08,460
and that the jet did a bank to the right

5118
03:39:12,469 --> 03:39:10,560
as it came over the house it banked the

5119
03:39:14,929 --> 03:39:12,479
right and then straightened up and when

5120
03:39:17,389 --> 03:39:14,939
it straightened up this fear went off to

5121
03:39:19,010 --> 03:39:17,399
the right away from it and both the

5122
03:39:20,510 --> 03:39:19,020
plane and the sphere ended up going

5123
03:39:25,870 --> 03:39:20,520
through into the clouds

5124
03:39:31,150 --> 03:39:29,030
the last month all I've been thinking is

5125
03:39:33,830 --> 03:39:31,160
what caused that vibration what was that

5126
03:39:35,630 --> 03:39:33,840
Reverb that sort of

5127
03:39:38,210 --> 03:39:35,640
feeling in the air that throbbing in the

5128
03:39:39,650 --> 03:39:38,220
air it's like a pulse

5129
03:39:41,630 --> 03:39:39,660
and then this plane came out and then

5130
03:39:44,210 --> 03:39:41,640
there's this this spheres follow it's a

5131
03:39:46,849 --> 03:39:44,220
sphere and the sphere must have been 10

5132
03:39:48,349 --> 03:39:46,859
15 foot across must have been because it

5133
03:39:50,269 --> 03:39:48,359
was behind this jet

5134
03:39:52,610 --> 03:39:50,279
and it wasn't tiny it was it was big

5135
03:39:56,510 --> 03:39:52,620
this you could see it

5136
03:40:00,110 --> 03:39:57,130
um

5137
03:40:02,030 --> 03:40:00,120
my first last year the the Tic Tac type

5138
03:40:03,650 --> 03:40:02,040
thing is I mean I've got the pictures on

5139
03:40:05,090 --> 03:40:03,660
the phone I've got the small videos from

5140
03:40:06,950 --> 03:40:05,100
the live setting on the phone I've

5141
03:40:09,349 --> 03:40:06,960
always got that I keep looking at that

5142
03:40:11,030 --> 03:40:09,359
and thinking is it could it be really

5143
03:40:12,710 --> 03:40:11,040
but it wasn't doing anything fantastic

5144
03:40:15,950 --> 03:40:12,720
it was just moving slowly across the sky

5145
03:40:18,830 --> 03:40:15,960
and I've seen other videos on

5146
03:40:21,650 --> 03:40:18,840
um Instagram and various of this their

5147
03:40:23,809 --> 03:40:21,660
platforms of the same type of thing

5148
03:40:24,650 --> 03:40:23,819
and so other people have seen the same

5149
03:40:25,729 --> 03:40:24,660
thing

5150
03:40:27,830 --> 03:40:25,739
but

5151
03:40:29,870 --> 03:40:27,840
this that so that was cool you know I

5152
03:40:31,610 --> 03:40:29,880
saw that well maybe the Tic-Tac member

5153
03:40:34,309 --> 03:40:31,620
so maybe I saw UAP

5154
03:40:36,530 --> 03:40:34,319
but this thing flying look this plane

5155
03:40:39,110 --> 03:40:36,540
the planes don't fly that low over my

5156
03:40:42,830 --> 03:40:39,120
house we have fighter jets over here

5157
03:40:45,889 --> 03:40:42,840
occasionally but this thing was like a

5158
03:40:48,349 --> 03:40:45,899
737 it was a it was a big jet and it

5159
03:40:50,809 --> 03:40:48,359
came across from the sort of across from

5160
03:40:52,550 --> 03:40:50,819
it's I live in the in the Midlands so

5161
03:40:53,210 --> 03:40:52,560
from the Malvern Hills across to my

5162
03:40:55,690 --> 03:40:53,220
place

5163
03:40:57,950 --> 03:40:55,700
and then it flew away towards Hereford

5164
03:41:00,769 --> 03:40:57,960
and this thing was following it this was

5165
03:41:03,410 --> 03:41:00,779
this was a sphere it wasn't a plane it

5166
03:41:06,830 --> 03:41:03,420
wasn't a bird it was following this Jet

5167
03:41:10,969 --> 03:41:09,050
I've tried to find flight details or

5168
03:41:13,010 --> 03:41:10,979
flight records of trying to find ways of

5169
03:41:15,110 --> 03:41:13,020
finding out if this plane was there a

5170
03:41:16,910 --> 03:41:15,120
flight flying over so that's I can't

5171
03:41:19,269 --> 03:41:16,920
find anything I can't even remember the

5172
03:41:22,010 --> 03:41:19,279
exact date it's just

5173
03:41:23,570 --> 03:41:22,020
I wish I could have done because

5174
03:41:25,250 --> 03:41:23,580
something was following that jet and

5175
03:41:27,290 --> 03:41:25,260
that jet flying low for a reason and

5176
03:41:28,910 --> 03:41:27,300
they don't usually fly that low so

5177
03:41:31,910 --> 03:41:28,920
that's really cool but it's the

5178
03:41:33,950 --> 03:41:31,920
reverberation in the air was that is

5179
03:41:35,450 --> 03:41:33,960
that common when something enters the

5180
03:41:37,010 --> 03:41:35,460
atmosphere when something happens like

5181
03:41:38,450 --> 03:41:37,020
that is it could it have been caused by

5182
03:41:39,769 --> 03:41:38,460
the plane or could it have been

5183
03:41:41,990 --> 03:41:39,779
something to do with this thing that was

5184
03:41:43,969 --> 03:41:42,000
following I don't know

5185
03:41:49,969 --> 03:41:43,979
okay Rome that's all I've got to give

5186
03:41:55,790 --> 03:41:51,889
hey Ryan

5187
03:41:59,030 --> 03:41:55,800
um my name is James I'm 35 years old I

5188
03:42:01,429 --> 03:41:59,040
live in Ontario Canada I'm a few hours

5189
03:42:04,250 --> 03:42:01,439
north of Toronto

5190
03:42:06,349 --> 03:42:04,260
um okay so I have two sightings to share

5191
03:42:08,330 --> 03:42:06,359
my first sighting

5192
03:42:11,510 --> 03:42:08,340
I shared with two friends

5193
03:42:13,670 --> 03:42:11,520
um and it's sort of what got me into

5194
03:42:15,710 --> 03:42:13,680
sort of Sky watching I guess and

5195
03:42:17,330 --> 03:42:15,720
stargazing and stuff

5196
03:42:20,090 --> 03:42:17,340
um and that leads into my second

5197
03:42:22,969 --> 03:42:20,100
sighting which is a little bit more

5198
03:42:26,630 --> 03:42:22,979
exciting than my first one but uh I'll

5199
03:42:30,650 --> 03:42:26,640
tell you them both so the first sighting

5200
03:42:33,830 --> 03:42:30,660
um happened in the spring of 2020 in my

5201
03:42:35,210 --> 03:42:33,840
hometown here I was hanging out with two

5202
03:42:37,550 --> 03:42:35,220
friends

5203
03:42:38,990 --> 03:42:37,560
um both same age as me

5204
03:42:41,690 --> 03:42:39,000
um roughly

5205
03:42:44,269 --> 03:42:41,700
and we were having like a band practice

5206
03:42:46,790 --> 03:42:44,279
kind of thing a little jam session went

5207
03:42:49,309 --> 03:42:46,800
until maybe 12 30 or 1 in the morning

5208
03:42:51,530 --> 03:42:49,319
and then we started walking home

5209
03:42:54,590 --> 03:42:51,540
and we live in like a small town

5210
03:42:57,170 --> 03:42:54,600
population of like I don't know 15 10 to

5211
03:42:58,370 --> 03:42:57,180
15 000 people and this was during sort

5212
03:43:04,610 --> 03:42:58,380
of the

5213
03:43:06,830 --> 03:43:04,620
deserted outside anyways so yeah we were

5214
03:43:09,950 --> 03:43:06,840
walking home and we stopped in a parking

5215
03:43:11,510 --> 03:43:09,960
lot kind of field thing on the outskirts

5216
03:43:13,130 --> 03:43:11,520
of town

5217
03:43:15,530 --> 03:43:13,140
um just to have a beer and sort of Chit

5218
03:43:19,490 --> 03:43:15,540
Chat yeah and we were just sitting there

5219
03:43:20,630 --> 03:43:19,500
I was facing sort of Northwest

5220
03:43:21,710 --> 03:43:20,640
um and my two friends were in front of

5221
03:43:24,530 --> 03:43:21,720
me we were kind of in like a little

5222
03:43:26,210 --> 03:43:24,540
circle and I just heard like a noise

5223
03:43:28,130 --> 03:43:26,220
coming from behind me

5224
03:43:31,729 --> 03:43:28,140
um the noise is sort of hard to describe

5225
03:43:34,490 --> 03:43:31,739
at first I thought it was an owl

5226
03:43:36,650 --> 03:43:34,500
um sort of diving down uh to get like a

5227
03:43:38,269 --> 03:43:36,660
mouse or something

5228
03:43:40,729 --> 03:43:38,279
um just I heard something like sort of

5229
03:43:42,769 --> 03:43:40,739
go cutting through the air so yeah I

5230
03:43:44,750 --> 03:43:42,779
thought it was an owl at first this is

5231
03:43:46,130 --> 03:43:44,760
all sort of happening like really really

5232
03:43:47,510 --> 03:43:46,140
quickly

5233
03:43:51,530 --> 03:43:47,520
um but yeah at first I thought it was an

5234
03:43:54,050 --> 03:43:51,540
owl but the sound was was too steady

5235
03:43:56,210 --> 03:43:54,060
um it was too like pure I guess if that

5236
03:43:57,349 --> 03:43:56,220
makes any sense

5237
03:43:59,870 --> 03:43:57,359
um it just sort of sounded like

5238
03:44:02,750 --> 03:43:59,880
something metal or like something that

5239
03:44:04,969 --> 03:44:02,760
wasn't changing in shape like a bird or

5240
03:44:06,469 --> 03:44:04,979
a ball or something like that just

5241
03:44:08,330 --> 03:44:06,479
cutting through the air and it sounded

5242
03:44:09,889 --> 03:44:08,340
like it was coming it was getting louder

5243
03:44:12,410 --> 03:44:09,899
and louder it sounded like it was coming

5244
03:44:14,809 --> 03:44:12,420
right towards us so I just looked up to

5245
03:44:17,570 --> 03:44:14,819
see what it was and there were two

5246
03:44:20,330 --> 03:44:17,580
lights above us two white lights

5247
03:44:23,150 --> 03:44:20,340
um not blinking not flashing or anything

5248
03:44:24,950 --> 03:44:23,160
like that both uniform with each like

5249
03:44:26,870 --> 03:44:24,960
both the exact same

5250
03:44:28,910 --> 03:44:26,880
um about I would say they were about two

5251
03:44:30,170 --> 03:44:28,920
inches apart from each other if you were

5252
03:44:32,330 --> 03:44:30,180
to hold

5253
03:44:34,250 --> 03:44:32,340
like an arm's length away if you were to

5254
03:44:36,830 --> 03:44:34,260
hold two inches that's about how

5255
03:44:38,690 --> 03:44:36,840
far the lights were away from each other

5256
03:44:42,050 --> 03:44:38,700
um and yeah they just went no noise

5257
03:44:43,610 --> 03:44:42,060
other than that sort of noise I heard

5258
03:44:45,710 --> 03:44:43,620
um both neither of my friends heard the

5259
03:44:49,070 --> 03:44:45,720
noise but as soon as I looked up I saw

5260
03:44:52,309 --> 03:44:49,080
these lights and they were moving West

5261
03:44:54,229 --> 03:44:52,319
so from east to west at just a high rate

5262
03:44:56,389 --> 03:44:54,239
of speed so I just said yo yo yo yo yo

5263
03:44:59,870 --> 03:44:56,399
and my friends looked up my one friend

5264
03:45:01,969 --> 03:44:59,880
responded what the f is that and within

5265
03:45:04,070 --> 03:45:01,979
about five seconds it had covered from

5266
03:45:08,690 --> 03:45:04,080
straight above us to The Horizon and

5267
03:45:12,650 --> 03:45:08,700
disappeared so a lot faster than a plane

5268
03:45:15,370 --> 03:45:12,660
or satellites or anything like that so

5269
03:45:18,050 --> 03:45:15,380
yeah we all kind of freaked out and

5270
03:45:19,790 --> 03:45:18,060
chatted about it for for a while longer

5271
03:45:22,910 --> 03:45:19,800
and then we went home

5272
03:45:26,750 --> 03:45:22,920
um my one friend sought on his walk home

5273
03:45:27,830 --> 03:45:26,760
he saw two more lights um one uh just

5274
03:45:29,630 --> 03:45:27,840
like it was coming like right Adam

5275
03:45:31,250 --> 03:45:29,640
getting bigger and bigger and bigger and

5276
03:45:32,929 --> 03:45:31,260
then it just disappeared

5277
03:45:34,490 --> 03:45:32,939
um and I can't remember what but his

5278
03:45:37,670 --> 03:45:34,500
second thing he saw was some something

5279
03:45:40,010 --> 03:45:37,680
similar to that anyways so that was like

5280
03:45:41,630 --> 03:45:40,020
the impetus to me getting into UFOs and

5281
03:45:44,750 --> 03:45:41,640
coming to um

5282
03:45:46,550 --> 03:45:44,760
r slash UFOs on Reddit that's where Ryan

5283
03:45:49,670 --> 03:45:46,560
I connected with you

5284
03:45:52,429 --> 03:45:49,680
yeah so that was my first sighting

5285
03:45:55,550 --> 03:45:52,439
so after my first setting I was you know

5286
03:45:57,229 --> 03:45:55,560
pretty shocked like it was pretty weird

5287
03:45:59,210 --> 03:45:57,239
I have no idea what it was

5288
03:46:02,090 --> 03:45:59,220
um so I spent a lot of time

5289
03:46:03,170 --> 03:46:02,100
a lot of nights just star watching in my

5290
03:46:05,210 --> 03:46:03,180
backyard

5291
03:46:06,469 --> 03:46:05,220
um watching for satellites you know blah

5292
03:46:10,070 --> 03:46:06,479
blah seeing if I could just see anything

5293
03:46:12,349 --> 03:46:10,080
like that again so last summer my second

5294
03:46:14,870 --> 03:46:12,359
my second sighting was last summer

5295
03:46:16,429 --> 03:46:14,880
um year of 2021. I was just in my

5296
03:46:18,110 --> 03:46:16,439
backyard

5297
03:46:21,349 --> 03:46:18,120
um stargazing you know it's probably

5298
03:46:24,530 --> 03:46:21,359
midnight I was looking sort of Southeast

5299
03:46:27,410 --> 03:46:24,540
in the sky and uh something caught my

5300
03:46:32,450 --> 03:46:27,420
attention to the north of me so I turned

5301
03:46:33,229 --> 03:46:32,460
and I saw two orbs or two lights in the

5302
03:46:35,870 --> 03:46:33,239
sky

5303
03:46:39,469 --> 03:46:35,880
um one was a like bright white Pure

5304
03:46:41,990 --> 03:46:39,479
White and the other was an orange orb

5305
03:46:44,150 --> 03:46:42,000
the white orb was like they're both

5306
03:46:46,490 --> 03:46:44,160
really high up in the sky the white orb

5307
03:46:48,790 --> 03:46:46,500
was above the orange orb quite a bit

5308
03:46:52,010 --> 03:46:48,800
above it and they would sort of

5309
03:46:53,570 --> 03:46:52,020
illuminate for maybe three seconds go

5310
03:46:55,910 --> 03:46:53,580
out for three seconds

5311
03:46:58,910 --> 03:46:55,920
illuminate for three seconds go out for

5312
03:47:01,250 --> 03:46:58,920
three seconds and they were ascending so

5313
03:47:03,590 --> 03:47:01,260
they were moving up in the sky in sort

5314
03:47:05,929 --> 03:47:03,600
of like a corkscrew fashion

5315
03:47:07,910 --> 03:47:05,939
it kind of looked like the white one was

5316
03:47:10,429 --> 03:47:07,920
spinning one way and the orange one was

5317
03:47:11,870 --> 03:47:10,439
doing the mirror opposite of that

5318
03:47:12,830 --> 03:47:11,880
um they both would light up at the same

5319
03:47:14,870 --> 03:47:12,840
time

5320
03:47:18,349 --> 03:47:14,880
and yeah they're just sort of spiraling

5321
03:47:21,710 --> 03:47:18,359
up as they light up and the orange orb

5322
03:47:24,349 --> 03:47:21,720
was ascending faster than the white orb

5323
03:47:26,809 --> 03:47:24,359
so it was it was cl the gap between them

5324
03:47:29,870 --> 03:47:26,819
was closing this sighting maybe lasted

5325
03:47:32,990 --> 03:47:29,880
maybe 30 seconds so yeah these orbs are

5326
03:47:34,429 --> 03:47:33,000
sort of spiraling and Illuminating and

5327
03:47:36,830 --> 03:47:34,439
going out

5328
03:47:40,130 --> 03:47:36,840
the orange orb is slowly closing in on

5329
03:47:42,530 --> 03:47:40,140
the white orb after maybe they did this

5330
03:47:46,729 --> 03:47:42,540
four times like illuminated and went out

5331
03:47:49,010 --> 03:47:46,739
the orange orb had merged with the white

5332
03:47:50,929 --> 03:47:49,020
orb and they just went out like then

5333
03:47:53,090 --> 03:47:50,939
just went totally out and they were

5334
03:47:56,150 --> 03:47:53,100
probably out for about 10 seconds

5335
03:47:58,790 --> 03:47:56,160
after 10 seconds like instantaneous

5336
03:48:01,790 --> 03:47:58,800
acceleration I've never seen anything

5337
03:48:03,710 --> 03:48:01,800
accelerate that like this

5338
03:48:06,530 --> 03:48:03,720
in my life

5339
03:48:07,490 --> 03:48:06,540
um just instantaneously shot like a

5340
03:48:09,650 --> 03:48:07,500
bullet

5341
03:48:12,590 --> 03:48:09,660
um straight up and it left like a

5342
03:48:14,870 --> 03:48:12,600
perfect streak white streak it looked

5343
03:48:16,910 --> 03:48:14,880
like a perfectly straight lightning bolt

5344
03:48:20,210 --> 03:48:16,920
that's the best way I can describe it

5345
03:48:22,849 --> 03:48:20,220
and then after a few more seconds one

5346
03:48:26,210 --> 03:48:22,859
shot the same thing happened but shot to

5347
03:48:28,010 --> 03:48:26,220
the left so 90 degrees just and it went

5348
03:48:29,150 --> 03:48:28,020
along the horizon and same thing just

5349
03:48:32,750 --> 03:48:29,160
left this

5350
03:48:35,570 --> 03:48:32,760
streak like a perfect bolt of lightning

5351
03:48:37,849 --> 03:48:35,580
no noise or anything like that no one

5352
03:48:39,349 --> 03:48:37,859
else saw this second one with me I

5353
03:48:41,990 --> 03:48:39,359
instantly came inside and told my

5354
03:48:44,570 --> 03:48:42,000
girlfriend and was kind of freaking out

5355
03:48:48,110 --> 03:48:44,580
um but that's it that was exciting

5356
03:48:50,450 --> 03:48:48,120
it was just so shocking it it felt like

5357
03:48:52,670 --> 03:48:50,460
I was seeing something that not that I'm

5358
03:48:54,830 --> 03:48:52,680
not supposed to be seeing but that isn't

5359
03:48:56,389 --> 03:48:54,840
supposed to exist you know like I'm

5360
03:48:58,490 --> 03:48:56,399
seeing this thing that

5361
03:49:00,950 --> 03:48:58,500
I knew instantly when I tell my friends

5362
03:49:02,990 --> 03:49:00,960
or anyone about it they're gonna look at

5363
03:49:04,969 --> 03:49:03,000
me like I'm a weirdo or like I'm crazy

5364
03:49:08,269 --> 03:49:04,979
or something but yeah that's how it made

5365
03:49:10,490 --> 03:49:08,279
me feel it just sort of surreal

5366
03:49:12,229 --> 03:49:10,500
um and I don't know it was awesome too

5367
03:49:15,229 --> 03:49:12,239
like I've never seen anything like that

5368
03:49:17,870 --> 03:49:15,239
I'm familiar with fireworks and

5369
03:49:20,389 --> 03:49:17,880
stuff like that and I don't think it was

5370
03:49:22,250 --> 03:49:20,399
it definitely was not fireworks

5371
03:49:24,229 --> 03:49:22,260
I've been researching maybe ball

5372
03:49:27,469 --> 03:49:24,239
lightning maybe it was ball lightning

5373
03:49:30,349 --> 03:49:27,479
but there doesn't seem to be even any

5374
03:49:33,229 --> 03:49:30,359
definitive answer that ball lightning is

5375
03:49:36,290 --> 03:49:33,239
even real just sort of witness accounts

5376
03:49:39,229 --> 03:49:36,300
and I found a study from 2014 where they

5377
03:49:41,090 --> 03:49:39,239
were able to make up what they think is

5378
03:49:43,790 --> 03:49:41,100
ball lightning in like a lab I guess

5379
03:49:46,729 --> 03:49:43,800
they made like a plasma ball but yeah so

5380
03:49:49,610 --> 03:49:46,739
I don't know I don't know what it was

5381
03:49:51,170 --> 03:49:49,620
but it was interesting it was cool I've

5382
03:49:52,849 --> 03:49:51,180
never seen anything like that I hope to

5383
03:49:55,130 --> 03:49:52,859
see something like that again

5384
03:49:56,990 --> 03:49:55,140
and I've also been sort of chatting with

5385
03:49:59,510 --> 03:49:57,000
people on Reddit who have had similar

5386
03:50:01,389 --> 03:49:59,520
stories and there's lots of people out

5387
03:50:04,010 --> 03:50:01,399
there seeing these orbs that

5388
03:50:06,349 --> 03:50:04,020
instantaneously accelerate and

5389
03:50:08,630 --> 03:50:06,359
leave these you know this perfect streak

5390
03:50:10,969 --> 03:50:08,640
of lightning anyway yeah that's my

5391
03:50:12,710 --> 03:50:10,979
sighting yeah I hope uh someone finds it

5392
03:50:15,769 --> 03:50:12,720
interesting and maybe someone has a

5393
03:50:17,929 --> 03:50:15,779
similar experience I'm curious to see so

5394
03:50:19,610 --> 03:50:17,939
yeah that's it thanks Ryan um I

5395
03:50:21,650 --> 03:50:19,620
appreciate what you're doing getting

5396
03:50:23,870 --> 03:50:21,660
these stories out there and you know

5397
03:50:25,550 --> 03:50:23,880
also connecting sort of people who have

5398
03:50:28,070 --> 03:50:25,560
had similar sightings because it is nice

5399
03:50:29,809 --> 03:50:28,080
to talk to people about it you know it's

5400
03:50:33,110 --> 03:50:29,819
not something I can I talk to my friends

5401
03:50:34,849 --> 03:50:33,120
and stuff about it but you know there's

5402
03:50:37,610 --> 03:50:34,859
that part of me that thinks that they

5403
03:50:38,090 --> 03:50:37,620
just think I'm crazy anyways so thanks

5404
03:50:41,450 --> 03:50:38,100
Ryan

5405
03:50:49,429 --> 03:50:45,050
hello this is rainy horn today's date is

5406
03:50:52,550 --> 03:50:49,439
Monday April 4th 2022

5407
03:50:55,309 --> 03:50:52,560
I have been on here before this is my

5408
03:50:58,309 --> 03:50:55,319
11th sighting in fact the other 10 are

5409
03:51:00,889 --> 03:50:58,319
on an episode uh on Ryan's Channel

5410
03:51:02,229 --> 03:51:00,899
called the lifetime of UFOs in British

5411
03:51:05,809 --> 03:51:02,239
Columbia

5412
03:51:09,229 --> 03:51:05,819
which uh document the first 10. so

5413
03:51:11,630 --> 03:51:09,239
anyway this 11th one I had just made a

5414
03:51:14,650 --> 03:51:11,640
report on

5415
03:51:17,349 --> 03:51:14,660
I think uh Wednesday to move on

5416
03:51:20,690 --> 03:51:17,359
reporting one of the sightings and then

5417
03:51:23,030 --> 03:51:20,700
filling in the comments section with uh

5418
03:51:25,969 --> 03:51:23,040
the other nine

5419
03:51:27,710 --> 03:51:25,979
and then the next afternoon Thursday it

5420
03:51:29,690 --> 03:51:27,720
was sitting outside wondering I wonder

5421
03:51:31,969 --> 03:51:29,700
if I'll ever see these again and sure

5422
03:51:33,830 --> 03:51:31,979
enough that night I did

5423
03:51:35,769 --> 03:51:33,840
so the I was sitting out in the back

5424
03:51:39,290 --> 03:51:35,779
deck around

5425
03:51:44,090 --> 03:51:39,300
uh well near 11 30 that was uh

5426
03:51:47,269 --> 03:51:44,100
two white cigars about a half inch

5427
03:51:49,309 --> 03:51:47,279
in length each and with about a half

5428
03:51:51,349 --> 03:51:49,319
inch space in between them I thought it

5429
03:51:53,330 --> 03:51:51,359
was one at first when I first saw it to

5430
03:51:55,429 --> 03:51:53,340
the uh

5431
03:51:58,849 --> 03:51:55,439
um kind of South East

5432
03:52:00,950 --> 03:51:58,859
and it traveled directly overhead or

5433
03:52:03,349 --> 03:52:00,960
they traveled directly overhead to the

5434
03:52:05,929 --> 03:52:03,359
uh kind of Northwest

5435
03:52:07,490 --> 03:52:05,939
and there was roughly a half inch Gap in

5436
03:52:10,130 --> 03:52:07,500
between them I would say

5437
03:52:13,309 --> 03:52:10,140
and they traveled edgeways not end to

5438
03:52:17,030 --> 03:52:13,319
end and that lasted about uh

5439
03:52:20,570 --> 03:52:17,040
five you know five to six seconds

5440
03:52:23,210 --> 03:52:20,580
and so I went inside and grabbed my uh

5441
03:52:26,150 --> 03:52:23,220
cell phone off the coffee table and my

5442
03:52:28,429 --> 03:52:26,160
clock said 11 24 so

5443
03:52:32,330 --> 03:52:28,439
p.m so I guess that would have been

5444
03:52:33,469 --> 03:52:32,340
around 11 22 or 23 when it actually

5445
03:52:36,170 --> 03:52:33,479
happened

5446
03:52:39,889 --> 03:52:36,180
so I turned my camera on and went back

5447
03:52:43,130 --> 03:52:39,899
out and uh a couple minutes later there

5448
03:52:45,830 --> 03:52:43,140
was what I recognized as uh Cloud guy

5449
03:52:48,469 --> 03:52:45,840
which you'll remember from the other

5450
03:52:52,309 --> 03:52:48,479
video if you've listened to it basically

5451
03:52:54,830 --> 03:52:52,319
just a roundish cloud with no shape

5452
03:52:57,469 --> 03:52:54,840
traveling across the sky holding its

5453
03:52:58,130 --> 03:52:57,479
shape no tail no sound no lights thank

5454
03:53:00,349 --> 03:52:58,140
you

5455
03:53:02,929 --> 03:53:00,359
and I only saw it for about two seconds

5456
03:53:04,610 --> 03:53:02,939
when I looked down and tried to get my

5457
03:53:06,710 --> 03:53:04,620
camera

5458
03:53:08,510 --> 03:53:06,720
ready to take a picture of something and

5459
03:53:10,309 --> 03:53:08,520
then knocked it out of camera mode of

5460
03:53:12,590 --> 03:53:10,319
course and Fiddle with it and

5461
03:53:14,690 --> 03:53:12,600
by the time I got back up it was gone I

5462
03:53:17,410 --> 03:53:14,700
couldn't spot it with my eyes

5463
03:53:20,030 --> 03:53:17,420
so nothing to film so I went downstairs

5464
03:53:23,750 --> 03:53:20,040
and uh the time actually the time of

5465
03:53:25,670 --> 03:53:23,760
that one I know what noted was 11 30. so

5466
03:53:27,170 --> 03:53:25,680
I went downstairs and got my daughter to

5467
03:53:29,450 --> 03:53:27,180
come hang out on the back deck with me

5468
03:53:30,950 --> 03:53:29,460
and we sat on these chairs in front of

5469
03:53:32,450 --> 03:53:30,960
the barbecues looking at the starters

5470
03:53:35,450 --> 03:53:32,460
and Chapman

5471
03:53:37,550 --> 03:53:35,460
and then she spotted it first I guess

5472
03:53:40,010 --> 03:53:37,560
because when I said do you see that she

5473
03:53:42,349 --> 03:53:40,020
goes yeah I'm looking right at it and so

5474
03:53:43,929 --> 03:53:42,359
there's from behind us kind of the

5475
03:53:46,610 --> 03:53:43,939
Northwest

5476
03:53:48,950 --> 03:53:46,620
traveling back the same direction as the

5477
03:53:51,830 --> 03:53:48,960
other two the first two I'd seen But

5478
03:53:55,010 --> 03:53:51,840
slightly to the South but still sort of

5479
03:53:57,229 --> 03:53:55,020
a straight line East ish

5480
03:54:00,469 --> 03:53:57,239
and um

5481
03:54:03,469 --> 03:54:00,479
but I re I saw them as kind of like two

5482
03:54:08,210 --> 03:54:03,479
dim sort of satellites

5483
03:54:09,769 --> 03:54:08,220
not twinkling no tails and uh one on the

5484
03:54:11,330 --> 03:54:09,779
left was slightly brighter so I was

5485
03:54:13,190 --> 03:54:11,340
keeping my eye on that but I did notice

5486
03:54:15,469 --> 03:54:13,200
that there was a pair of them

5487
03:54:18,710 --> 03:54:15,479
and they were traveling straight and

5488
03:54:21,170 --> 03:54:18,720
then took a curve about 30 degrees both

5489
03:54:22,190 --> 03:54:21,180
of them toward the South like further to

5490
03:54:23,750 --> 03:54:22,200
the South

5491
03:54:25,670 --> 03:54:23,760
so that's the first time I've seen them

5492
03:54:28,189 --> 03:54:25,680
change direction and my cool witness

5493
03:54:29,689 --> 03:54:28,199
there she stated the same thing that she

5494
03:54:32,990 --> 03:54:29,699
had seen them curve

5495
03:54:34,849 --> 03:54:33,000
the next day I had drawn a picture from

5496
03:54:37,490 --> 03:54:34,859
my wife before she'd gone out to dinner

5497
03:54:38,570 --> 03:54:37,500
with some friends of the first ones that

5498
03:54:40,130 --> 03:54:38,580
I'd seen these cigars

5499
03:54:43,370 --> 03:54:40,140
[Music]

5500
03:54:45,229 --> 03:54:43,380
later on my daughter kept referring to

5501
03:54:47,809 --> 03:54:45,239
them as lions

5502
03:54:49,849 --> 03:54:47,819
so I asked her to draw what she was

5503
03:54:51,769 --> 03:54:49,859
talking about and what she Drew was

5504
03:54:54,290 --> 03:54:51,779
exactly what I had drawn for my wife

5505
03:54:57,410 --> 03:54:54,300
these two little cigar white things side

5506
03:55:00,889 --> 03:54:57,420
by side except that she said

5507
03:55:04,010 --> 03:55:00,899
she saw them traveling end to end

5508
03:55:05,630 --> 03:55:04,020
so I mean she's younger better eyeballs

5509
03:55:08,630 --> 03:55:05,640
and she was wearing her glasses so I

5510
03:55:11,150 --> 03:55:08,640
will trust her vision on that especially

5511
03:55:13,870 --> 03:55:11,160
since they were exactly what I had drawn

5512
03:55:16,010 --> 03:55:13,880
for my wife a few minutes before that

5513
03:55:20,330 --> 03:55:16,020
anyway I thought that was kind of cool

5514
03:55:22,910 --> 03:55:20,340
and we noted the time was 11 55 so it

5515
03:55:25,130 --> 03:55:22,920
would have happened at around 11 53 we

5516
03:55:28,790 --> 03:55:25,140
figured pm

5517
03:55:31,790 --> 03:55:28,800
so that's uh it those are the three and

5518
03:55:33,769 --> 03:55:31,800
uh I guess I'll keep you posted

5519
03:55:38,170 --> 03:55:33,779
sure it will continue

5520
03:55:45,950 --> 03:55:42,889
I'm gonna talk about a a thing I saw in

5521
03:55:47,990 --> 03:55:45,960
the sky on the way to my boyfriend's

5522
03:55:49,269 --> 03:55:48,000
house I take Route 70

5523
03:55:52,729 --> 03:55:49,279
um going west

5524
03:55:55,250 --> 03:55:52,739
uh towards Maple Shade which I would

5525
03:55:59,210 --> 03:55:55,260
have to get on 73 as you all know if you

5526
03:56:02,990 --> 03:55:59,220
are from New Jersey or whatever so

5527
03:56:07,370 --> 03:56:03,000
right at the cross section of where my

5528
03:56:10,070 --> 03:56:07,380
town starts and Route 70 like can

5529
03:56:14,090 --> 03:56:10,080
um intersects with it I'm supposed to

5530
03:56:16,010 --> 03:56:14,100
make a left I mean uh all right wow this

5531
03:56:18,530 --> 03:56:16,020
is so hard to explain and to make it

5532
03:56:21,590 --> 03:56:18,540
right and there's this cornfield to my

5533
03:56:23,030 --> 03:56:21,600
left and I saw this thing in the sky it

5534
03:56:23,689 --> 03:56:23,040
looked like

5535
03:56:25,969 --> 03:56:23,699
um

5536
03:56:28,370 --> 03:56:25,979
it looked like the North Star like

5537
03:56:31,750 --> 03:56:28,380
literally it did and

5538
03:56:36,229 --> 03:56:31,760
um it was like it was kind of light out

5539
03:56:38,030 --> 03:56:36,239
but the sun was gradually going down and

5540
03:56:43,309 --> 03:56:38,040
um I was just staring at it I was at the

5541
03:56:46,490 --> 03:56:43,319
stoplight and it kept getting dimmer and

5542
03:56:49,070 --> 03:56:46,500
dimmer and dimmer and dimmer and then

5543
03:56:52,670 --> 03:56:49,080
you see these lights like

5544
03:56:55,010 --> 03:56:52,680
um at the bottom of it like go around it

5545
03:56:57,189 --> 03:56:55,020
was really spooky and it had three

5546
03:56:59,689 --> 03:56:57,199
lights and they were all the same color

5547
03:57:02,809 --> 03:56:59,699
so I'm like

5548
03:57:06,950 --> 03:57:02,819
what is this and I was staring out

5549
03:57:08,929 --> 03:57:06,960
and this light seemed like it lasted

5550
03:57:11,269 --> 03:57:08,939
um two minutes but I know these lights

5551
03:57:12,290 --> 03:57:11,279
only last like a minute a minute and a

5552
03:57:14,510 --> 03:57:12,300
half

5553
03:57:16,610 --> 03:57:14,520
and everyone else is staring at me in

5554
03:57:20,809 --> 03:57:16,620
their car like what is this girl staring

5555
03:57:22,429 --> 03:57:20,819
at I'm like oh no so I look over to see

5556
03:57:25,370 --> 03:57:22,439
if the light change the light change I

5557
03:57:28,309 --> 03:57:25,380
looked back it was gone nowhere to be

5558
03:57:29,929 --> 03:57:28,319
found so I got on my phone and I called

5559
03:57:31,550 --> 03:57:29,939
my dad I'm like Dad oh my God I think I

5560
03:57:33,830 --> 03:57:31,560
just saw a UFO he's like what do you

5561
03:57:35,689 --> 03:57:33,840
mean I'm like I think I just saw UFO

5562
03:57:39,170 --> 03:57:35,699
he's like we'll describe it so I

5563
03:57:39,950 --> 03:57:39,180
described it he's like that sounds weird

5564
03:57:42,710 --> 03:57:39,960
um

5565
03:57:44,210 --> 03:57:42,720
are you okay I'm like yeah I'm fine I

5566
03:57:47,630 --> 03:57:44,220
just don't know what the heck just

5567
03:57:50,689 --> 03:57:47,640
happened and so on my way to my

5568
03:57:53,330 --> 03:57:50,699
boyfriend's house again like

5569
03:57:55,250 --> 03:57:53,340
um since I saw it in the sky

5570
03:57:58,490 --> 03:57:55,260
so

5571
03:58:00,530 --> 03:57:58,500
east Southeast of me

5572
03:58:01,969 --> 03:58:00,540
okay

5573
03:58:05,990 --> 03:58:01,979
um

5574
03:58:09,110 --> 03:58:06,000
so I started going towards 73 and I saw

5575
03:58:12,530 --> 03:58:09,120
it again and this time I was in like

5576
03:58:14,630 --> 03:58:12,540
heavy traffic it was stop go stop go so

5577
03:58:16,729 --> 03:58:14,640
I'm staring at it

5578
03:58:19,550 --> 03:58:16,739
and

5579
03:58:21,769 --> 03:58:19,560
um traffic starts moving again so I keep

5580
03:58:23,630 --> 03:58:21,779
staring at it looking up looking up and

5581
03:58:26,330 --> 03:58:23,640
it's doing the same thing over and over

5582
03:58:29,630 --> 03:58:26,340
again and I'm like oh my God so I looked

5583
03:58:32,510 --> 03:58:29,640
up finally and it disappeared it was so

5584
03:58:35,150 --> 03:58:32,520
freaky I saw it twice in one night and

5585
03:58:36,950 --> 03:58:35,160
uh my dad I called my dad again saying I

5586
03:58:39,710 --> 03:58:36,960
saw it again and he's like well maybe

5587
03:58:41,809 --> 03:58:39,720
they're after you like I doubt that and

5588
03:58:43,309 --> 03:58:41,819
he's like well go outside tomorrow and

5589
03:58:45,110 --> 03:58:43,319
see if you see it and then they're

5590
03:58:47,090 --> 03:58:45,120
definitely after you I'm like that's not

5591
03:58:49,729 --> 03:58:47,100
a joke like seriously I don't know what

5592
03:58:53,150 --> 03:58:49,739
the heck that is it was freaking me out

5593
03:58:56,990 --> 03:58:53,160
so um apparently I'm not the only one

5594
03:58:59,210 --> 03:58:57,000
who has seen these things

5595
03:59:02,510 --> 03:58:59,220
um people in Pennsylvania have seen the

5596
03:59:05,090 --> 03:59:02,520
same thing and people in

5597
03:59:07,610 --> 03:59:05,100
uh North Jersey have seen the same thing

5598
03:59:10,189 --> 03:59:07,620
so I'm thinking what the heck is going

5599
03:59:13,010 --> 03:59:10,199
on I really want to know I don't want to

5600
03:59:16,429 --> 03:59:13,020
be the only one who has this insane

5601
03:59:22,309 --> 03:59:16,439
story which No One Believes so um

5602
03:59:28,250 --> 03:59:24,830
all right Ryan yeah thanks for giving me

5603
03:59:31,010 --> 03:59:28,260
this opportunity to tell this story I've

5604
03:59:33,410 --> 03:59:31,020
had a few few experiences but I'll uh

5605
03:59:34,849 --> 03:59:33,420
tell the one of most significance I'd

5606
03:59:38,330 --> 03:59:34,859
say

5607
03:59:41,090 --> 03:59:38,340
my name's Josh I'm 33 years old and I'm

5608
03:59:44,269 --> 03:59:41,100
from Glencoe west coast of Scotland in

5609
03:59:46,030 --> 03:59:44,279
the highlands it was uh November night

5610
03:59:49,309 --> 03:59:46,040
back in

5611
03:59:53,150 --> 03:59:49,319
2007 or eight I can't quite remember the

5612
03:59:55,790 --> 03:59:53,160
exact year but about that time uh my

5613
03:59:57,349 --> 03:59:55,800
body had not long past this test not

5614
03:59:59,210 --> 03:59:57,359
much else to do so we used to just

5615
04:00:01,550 --> 03:59:59,220
cruise around and as uh

5616
04:00:05,030 --> 04:00:01,560
Vauxhall Astra estate

5617
04:00:06,290 --> 04:00:05,040
and listen to loud music sort of talk

5618
04:00:09,290 --> 04:00:06,300
nonsense

5619
04:00:11,570 --> 04:00:09,300
so this is a night a night similar to to

5620
04:00:14,389 --> 04:00:11,580
many others but anyway we're we're

5621
04:00:16,309 --> 04:00:14,399
driving I must add sorry and where I am

5622
04:00:18,410 --> 04:00:16,319
in the west coast there's not a huge

5623
04:00:19,370 --> 04:00:18,420
amount of light pollution so on a clear

5624
04:00:21,830 --> 04:00:19,380
night

5625
04:00:25,550 --> 04:00:21,840
you know away from any lights from the

5626
04:00:28,849 --> 04:00:25,560
village you can see all the stars it's

5627
04:00:31,130 --> 04:00:28,859
beautiful you can also see the the sort

5628
04:00:33,130 --> 04:00:31,140
of haze of the Milky Way with the naked

5629
04:00:35,689 --> 04:00:33,140
eye when you go up the Glen you know so

5630
04:00:38,750 --> 04:00:35,699
quite fascinating just used to sit and

5631
04:00:40,429 --> 04:00:38,760
smoke cigarettes and watch the watch the

5632
04:00:42,710 --> 04:00:40,439
night sky off and always seeing things

5633
04:00:44,269 --> 04:00:42,720
like darting about most likely

5634
04:00:44,929 --> 04:00:44,279
satellites you know

5635
04:00:47,090 --> 04:00:44,939
um

5636
04:00:49,010 --> 04:00:47,100
anyway let's know in particular we were

5637
04:00:51,410 --> 04:00:49,020
we were driving along the street it was

5638
04:00:52,370 --> 04:00:51,420
probably like a 10 mile stretch of road

5639
04:00:55,490 --> 04:00:52,380
that's

5640
04:00:57,290 --> 04:00:55,500
in the middle of a glen not too close to

5641
04:00:59,750 --> 04:00:57,300
either of the mountain even the mountain

5642
04:01:01,610 --> 04:00:59,760
range is either side of you so a fairly

5643
04:01:04,010 --> 04:01:01,620
open bit

5644
04:01:06,769 --> 04:01:04,020
um this particular night was quite

5645
04:01:08,150 --> 04:01:06,779
cloudy yeah that's the odd patch of

5646
04:01:09,469 --> 04:01:08,160
stars would shine through you know you

5647
04:01:12,469 --> 04:01:09,479
could see through

5648
04:01:14,809 --> 04:01:12,479
anyway we're we're driving along and I

5649
04:01:17,150 --> 04:01:14,819
saw this sort of I guess Peach would be

5650
04:01:20,389 --> 04:01:17,160
the best way to describe the color this

5651
04:01:22,370 --> 04:01:20,399
pinky orange light coming from one of

5652
04:01:25,189 --> 04:01:22,380
the Mountain Sleep initially we're like

5653
04:01:26,689 --> 04:01:25,199
oh there's a flare uh what do we do with

5654
04:01:28,010 --> 04:01:26,699
that there's obviously people's trap

5655
04:01:29,110 --> 04:01:28,020
stuck up there and they're needing

5656
04:01:31,309 --> 04:01:29,120
assistance

5657
04:01:32,929 --> 04:01:31,319
uh who do we call do we call police

5658
04:01:35,630 --> 04:01:32,939
what's the number for Mountain Rescue

5659
04:01:38,030 --> 04:01:35,640
blah blah blah decided to go to the pub

5660
04:01:40,070 --> 04:01:38,040
that was you know as I say about eight

5661
04:01:41,929 --> 04:01:40,080
miles away from where we were kind of in

5662
04:01:43,790 --> 04:01:41,939
the there's a loop that we would do yeah

5663
04:01:44,929 --> 04:01:43,800
so we're heading towards this Pub and

5664
04:01:47,030 --> 04:01:44,939
that's that's where we're driving along

5665
04:01:48,710 --> 04:01:47,040
music pumping

5666
04:01:51,290 --> 04:01:48,720
I kept my eye on this light because it

5667
04:01:53,750 --> 04:01:51,300
was it was weird it didn't work you know

5668
04:01:57,349 --> 04:01:53,760
flares are all sorts of colors I suppose

5669
04:02:00,530 --> 04:01:57,359
but this looked a bit weird or maybe I

5670
04:02:01,550 --> 04:02:00,540
wanted to talk weird so I was watching

5671
04:02:12,229 --> 04:02:01,560
it

5672
04:02:14,090 --> 04:02:12,239
coming towards us we were driving

5673
04:02:16,010 --> 04:02:14,100
towards it and it appeared to be coming

5674
04:02:19,189 --> 04:02:16,020
towards us and it got to a point it was

5675
04:02:20,710 --> 04:02:19,199
maybe a mile or two away itself from the

5676
04:02:23,809 --> 04:02:20,720
mountain it appeared to have come from

5677
04:02:25,670 --> 04:02:23,819
that and our experience of seeing flares

5678
04:02:27,229 --> 04:02:25,680
and a lot of people get rescued off the

5679
04:02:29,570 --> 04:02:27,239
mountains around here they don't really

5680
04:02:31,670 --> 04:02:29,580
hang out like that so I decided to stick

5681
04:02:33,110 --> 04:02:31,680
my head out the window yeah because you

5682
04:02:34,910 --> 04:02:33,120
know I've got like lights from the dash

5683
04:02:36,410 --> 04:02:34,920
and stuff in the car it's kind of hard

5684
04:02:38,510 --> 04:02:36,420
to see through the windows so I stuck my

5685
04:02:40,010 --> 04:02:38,520
head out to sort of spa you know

5686
04:02:41,689 --> 04:02:40,020
silhouette of a helicopter or something

5687
04:02:43,370 --> 04:02:41,699
I couldn't see anything I just saw just

5688
04:02:45,710 --> 04:02:43,380
about this light

5689
04:02:48,830 --> 04:02:45,720
that's all right told my body to pull

5690
04:02:51,469 --> 04:02:48,840
over in the lab I cut the engine music

5691
04:02:53,570 --> 04:02:51,479
off we sat there watching this lightning

5692
04:02:57,050 --> 04:02:53,580
and by this point it had come you know

5693
04:03:00,530 --> 04:02:57,060
almost parallel to us a good few hundred

5694
04:03:03,229 --> 04:03:00,540
meters above the ground and again maybe

5695
04:03:06,710 --> 04:03:03,239
four or 500 meters away from us in a

5696
04:03:08,150 --> 04:03:06,720
sort of horizontal Direction you know so

5697
04:03:10,130 --> 04:03:08,160
close enough

5698
04:03:12,650 --> 04:03:10,140
um that you if it was a helicopter you

5699
04:03:14,330 --> 04:03:12,660
would you would hear the rotors they're

5700
04:03:16,309 --> 04:03:14,340
nothing absolutely nothing at this point

5701
04:03:17,330 --> 04:03:16,319
it's sort of like just hanging hanging

5702
04:03:21,170 --> 04:03:17,340
in the sky

5703
04:03:23,450 --> 04:03:21,180
clouds above it you can see the light of

5704
04:03:25,550 --> 04:03:23,460
it reflecting off the clouds it was

5705
04:03:28,490 --> 04:03:25,560
obviously fairly close to the cloud and

5706
04:03:30,650 --> 04:03:28,500
near my body were joking like a UFO or

5707
04:03:33,710 --> 04:03:30,660
whatever and as we're saying that it

5708
04:03:35,330 --> 04:03:33,720
shot upwards very very very quickly

5709
04:03:37,250 --> 04:03:35,340
through the clouds

5710
04:03:39,349 --> 04:03:37,260
um so quick it was almost unbelievable

5711
04:03:41,510 --> 04:03:39,359
that it did it you could see the light

5712
04:03:44,450 --> 04:03:41,520
go through the cloud you know as it went

5713
04:03:48,170 --> 04:03:44,460
up and out uh to watch my buddy and I

5714
04:03:50,410 --> 04:03:48,180
got a bit freaked out and uh and jumped

5715
04:03:53,450 --> 04:03:50,420
in the car

5716
04:03:56,710 --> 04:03:53,460
proceeded to go

5717
04:04:00,530 --> 04:03:56,720
so yeah that was that was that one

5718
04:04:04,429 --> 04:04:00,540
another one very quick one was not

5719
04:04:06,590 --> 04:04:04,439
too long I believe it was after that

5720
04:04:08,090 --> 04:04:06,600
a few of my friends and I were sort of

5721
04:04:10,550 --> 04:04:08,100
walking up and down the village as we

5722
04:04:12,290 --> 04:04:10,560
would do killing time on a weekend not

5723
04:04:15,530 --> 04:04:12,300
much to do but drink and stuff like that

5724
04:04:17,650 --> 04:04:15,540
and uh it was a corner of my eye and

5725
04:04:20,870 --> 04:04:17,660
directly in front of my my other friend

5726
04:04:22,969 --> 04:04:20,880
we saw this red

5727
04:04:25,969 --> 04:04:22,979
it was like a meteorite you know just

5728
04:04:27,950 --> 04:04:25,979
like go flying behind this mountain and

5729
04:04:30,650 --> 04:04:27,960
again the light would just like bounce

5730
04:04:32,929 --> 04:04:30,660
off all the rocks of the mountain and

5731
04:04:34,250 --> 04:04:32,939
disappear and we waited waited and

5732
04:04:35,870 --> 04:04:34,260
waited and waited for some sort of like

5733
04:04:38,769 --> 04:04:35,880
impact sound

5734
04:04:42,290 --> 04:04:38,779
it's nothing nothing at all so that was

5735
04:04:45,050 --> 04:04:42,300
that was quite bizarre but that one's

5736
04:04:46,550 --> 04:04:45,060
not so not so mysterious really I guess

5737
04:04:48,110 --> 04:04:46,560
it could have just easily been a

5738
04:04:52,610 --> 04:04:48,120
meteorite

5739
04:04:56,389 --> 04:04:52,620
and my third experience would be a place

5740
04:04:59,510 --> 04:04:56,399
called cool Bay very beautiful open part

5741
04:05:01,610 --> 04:04:59,520
of a of a beach you know and right at

5742
04:05:05,510 --> 04:05:01,620
the sea right between the walk

5743
04:05:07,910 --> 04:05:05,520
uh it was about four in the morning I

5744
04:05:10,990 --> 04:05:07,920
believe my I was the only one awake at

5745
04:05:15,349 --> 04:05:11,000
this point and I could hear this like

5746
04:05:17,830 --> 04:05:15,359
you know like humming noise drone noise

5747
04:05:20,929 --> 04:05:17,840
this was

5748
04:05:23,510 --> 04:05:20,939
2003 into my knowledge I didn't know

5749
04:05:25,189 --> 04:05:23,520
about Jones of course remote RC planes

5750
04:05:27,830 --> 04:05:25,199
and stuff like that I didn't know

5751
04:05:31,189 --> 04:05:27,840
anything about a drone then

5752
04:05:34,070 --> 04:05:31,199
um and this object quite small

5753
04:05:39,140 --> 04:05:34,080
um flew over over the top of my head

5754
04:05:40,550 --> 04:05:39,150
it was not in the shape of a plane

5755
04:05:42,530 --> 04:05:40,560
[Music]

5756
04:05:44,210 --> 04:05:42,540
and I had to escape

5757
04:05:47,530 --> 04:05:44,220
semi-circle

5758
04:05:50,570 --> 04:05:47,540
made this weird high-pitch humming noise

5759
04:05:53,510 --> 04:05:50,580
and appeared to be quite small maybe the

5760
04:05:55,550 --> 04:05:53,520
size of me you know an adult I don't

5761
04:05:57,590 --> 04:05:55,560
mean no

5762
04:06:00,110 --> 04:05:57,600
flew above my head a few hundred meters

5763
04:06:01,910 --> 04:06:00,120
above my head and I just initially

5764
04:06:04,610 --> 04:06:01,920
thought oh cool someone's got an RC

5765
04:06:07,550 --> 04:06:04,620
plane and then it just kept going and

5766
04:06:11,570 --> 04:06:07,560
going and going until it just like faded

5767
04:06:16,610 --> 04:06:14,030
hey Ryan hope you're doing well my name

5768
04:06:19,010 --> 04:06:16,620
is Jesse Brock and I witnessed something

5769
04:06:20,389 --> 04:06:19,020
that I cannot explain when I was in high

5770
04:06:21,889 --> 04:06:20,399
school with my younger brother and I'm

5771
04:06:25,670 --> 04:06:21,899
here to tell that story

5772
04:06:29,630 --> 04:06:25,680
so when I was I believe I was in the

5773
04:06:32,809 --> 04:06:29,640
10th grade and my brother was in the

5774
04:06:35,809 --> 04:06:32,819
seventh or sixth grade

5775
04:06:40,550 --> 04:06:35,819
um we lived in an area

5776
04:06:43,309 --> 04:06:40,560
that is not super rural Tennessee but

5777
04:06:45,769 --> 04:06:43,319
it's definitely off the beaten path and

5778
04:06:48,050 --> 04:06:45,779
uh it was a little bit of a nicer

5779
04:06:50,389 --> 04:06:48,060
Community but we were surrounded by a

5780
04:06:52,490 --> 04:06:50,399
lot of trees I think our

5781
04:06:57,469 --> 04:06:52,500
the plot of land that my parents then I

5782
04:07:00,950 --> 04:06:57,479
lived on was 10 acres or so and

5783
04:07:02,389 --> 04:07:00,960
um there was a house maybe 100 200 yards

5784
04:07:03,710 --> 04:07:02,399
away

5785
04:07:07,189 --> 04:07:03,720
but we couldn't hear the interstate

5786
04:07:09,590 --> 04:07:07,199
really heard any cars outside of like

5787
04:07:11,570 --> 04:07:09,600
delivery trucks for like UPS and FedEx

5788
04:07:13,670 --> 04:07:11,580
and occasionally a dump truck would come

5789
04:07:16,370 --> 04:07:13,680
through the area but there was not much

5790
04:07:18,110 --> 04:07:16,380
else going on out there

5791
04:07:22,309 --> 04:07:18,120
uh that was

5792
04:07:25,030 --> 04:07:22,319
unusual very quiet uh nothing crazy

5793
04:07:28,870 --> 04:07:25,040
so one night

5794
04:07:32,870 --> 04:07:28,880
my brother comes and knocks on my door

5795
04:07:35,030 --> 04:07:32,880
probably shortly after midnight and I

5796
04:07:37,849 --> 04:07:35,040
remember he would do this thing where he

5797
04:07:39,050 --> 04:07:37,859
would just knock and wouldn't say who

5798
04:07:41,090 --> 04:07:39,060
was there and it would always freak me

5799
04:07:43,309 --> 04:07:41,100
out so I was like hello

5800
04:07:45,590 --> 04:07:43,319
and then he was like hey it's me and so

5801
04:07:48,710 --> 04:07:45,600
I walk out and I meet him

5802
04:07:51,790 --> 04:07:48,720
and I'm like what's up and he says to me

5803
04:07:54,950 --> 04:07:51,800
he says there's something outside

5804
04:07:57,889 --> 04:07:54,960
and he used like there's like a triangle

5805
04:08:00,229 --> 04:07:57,899
in the sky and I was like okay whatever

5806
04:08:02,570 --> 04:08:00,239
you know we'll we'll see so we walked to

5807
04:08:04,309 --> 04:08:02,580
his bedroom window a little bit of

5808
04:08:07,189 --> 04:08:04,319
information about

5809
04:08:09,170 --> 04:08:07,199
our yard so there's a stretch of yard

5810
04:08:13,670 --> 04:08:09,180
outside of his window that was probably

5811
04:08:15,469 --> 04:08:13,680
about 20 yards or so uh before the tree

5812
04:08:18,110 --> 04:08:15,479
line started and then it's solid Woods

5813
04:08:21,769 --> 04:08:18,120
for acres and Acres

5814
04:08:24,410 --> 04:08:21,779
and I don't see the triangle that he saw

5815
04:08:27,490 --> 04:08:24,420
but he told me but before he came and

5816
04:08:30,170 --> 04:08:27,500
got me he saw a triangle hovering over

5817
04:08:32,389 --> 04:08:30,180
that area of yard

5818
04:08:36,349 --> 04:08:32,399
up above the tree line

5819
04:08:39,590 --> 04:08:36,359
with three orange lights on each of the

5820
04:08:43,550 --> 04:08:39,600
corners and then one large orange light

5821
04:08:46,250 --> 04:08:43,560
that was kind of glowing in the middle

5822
04:08:48,229 --> 04:08:46,260
um and he said it was huge and

5823
04:08:50,750 --> 04:08:48,239
completely silent

5824
04:08:53,330 --> 04:08:50,760
so he came and got me at that point at

5825
04:08:55,490 --> 04:08:53,340
this point we come back to his room

5826
04:08:56,330 --> 04:08:55,500
and I don't see anything for a moment he

5827
04:08:58,130 --> 04:08:56,340
says

5828
04:08:59,990 --> 04:08:58,140
I know it'll come back

5829
04:09:03,590 --> 04:09:00,000
and then

5830
04:09:05,330 --> 04:09:03,600
sure enough a very large bright orange

5831
04:09:08,689 --> 04:09:05,340
light

5832
04:09:11,450 --> 04:09:08,699
kind of appears above the tree line kind

5833
04:09:14,030 --> 04:09:11,460
of to our right I can see it through the

5834
04:09:17,689 --> 04:09:14,040
trees and then it kind of comes above

5835
04:09:19,429 --> 04:09:17,699
very slowly moving moves back over kind

5836
04:09:21,769 --> 04:09:19,439
of in front of us looking directly out

5837
04:09:23,929 --> 04:09:21,779
the window kind of goes over to the left

5838
04:09:26,090 --> 04:09:23,939
and then disappears over the tree line

5839
04:09:28,670 --> 04:09:26,100
near where there's a large ridge

5840
04:09:30,530 --> 04:09:28,680
uh completely quiet I could tell it was

5841
04:09:32,870 --> 04:09:30,540
a large shape I couldn't see the three

5842
04:09:35,630 --> 04:09:32,880
corners that he described

5843
04:09:36,710 --> 04:09:35,640
but I could tell it was a large shape of

5844
04:09:39,889 --> 04:09:36,720
some sort

5845
04:09:42,050 --> 04:09:39,899
and he was when we saw it he said that's

5846
04:09:44,689 --> 04:09:42,060
it that's it right there and it came

5847
04:09:46,670 --> 04:09:44,699
back uh crossed in front of us and then

5848
04:09:49,130 --> 04:09:46,680
disappeared to our left over the tree

5849
04:09:53,689 --> 04:09:49,140
line completely silent

5850
04:09:55,250 --> 04:09:53,699
uh much like other other UFO encounters

5851
04:09:59,809 --> 04:09:55,260
dead quiet

5852
04:10:01,729 --> 04:09:59,819
and uh and no noise at all and that was

5853
04:10:06,410 --> 04:10:01,739
that was the extent of it

5854
04:10:07,729 --> 04:10:06,420
I would describe myself as an avid UFO

5855
04:10:09,830 --> 04:10:07,739
believer

5856
04:10:12,610 --> 04:10:09,840
I had always kind of been interested in

5857
04:10:14,870 --> 04:10:12,620
the topic in high school I was very into

5858
04:10:18,110 --> 04:10:14,880
conspiracy theories and things I would

5859
04:10:19,910 --> 04:10:18,120
read online and UFOs always thought UFOs

5860
04:10:23,570 --> 04:10:19,920
are really interesting and interested in

5861
04:10:26,510 --> 04:10:23,580
Aliens and the prospect of life from

5862
04:10:29,150 --> 04:10:26,520
somewhere else in the universe or even

5863
04:10:31,370 --> 04:10:29,160
from another place on our planet

5864
04:10:32,630 --> 04:10:31,380
when I when I I had that experience with

5865
04:10:35,389 --> 04:10:32,640
my brother

5866
04:10:39,469 --> 04:10:35,399
I was blown away

5867
04:10:41,809 --> 04:10:39,479
and it really just solidified my belief

5868
04:10:44,570 --> 04:10:41,819
and I have uh

5869
04:10:48,469 --> 04:10:44,580
I have never had I've never wavered from

5870
04:10:49,610 --> 04:10:48,479
it uh since then my brother and I don't

5871
04:10:52,070 --> 04:10:49,620
share

5872
04:10:55,990 --> 04:10:52,080
uh the same beliefs he's very skeptical

5873
04:10:58,429 --> 04:10:56,000
very open to uh alternate

5874
04:11:00,229 --> 04:10:58,439
interpretations he's just a bigger

5875
04:11:02,630 --> 04:11:00,239
skeptic than I am

5876
04:11:04,070 --> 04:11:02,640
um but the the important thing about our

5877
04:11:05,450 --> 04:11:04,080
sighting is we've always told the same

5878
04:11:08,090 --> 04:11:05,460
story

5879
04:11:11,269 --> 04:11:08,100
um he was unwilling to be a part of this

5880
04:11:13,849 --> 04:11:11,279
but he did he still tells the same story

5881
04:11:16,849 --> 04:11:13,859
that I tell opiate he doesn't like to

5882
04:11:19,969 --> 04:11:16,859
talk about it a ton

5883
04:11:20,510 --> 04:11:19,979
um as for how this experience made me

5884
04:11:21,889 --> 04:11:20,520
feel

5885
04:11:24,650 --> 04:11:21,899
[Music]

5886
04:11:26,809 --> 04:11:24,660
um I didn't think a ton of it other than

5887
04:11:28,729 --> 04:11:26,819
it just being kind of a weird thing

5888
04:11:30,590 --> 04:11:28,739
at the time

5889
04:11:32,990 --> 04:11:30,600
um I definitely knew that it was strange

5890
04:11:34,670 --> 04:11:33,000
but as as things

5891
04:11:38,450 --> 04:11:34,680
you know as Tech as we've seen

5892
04:11:40,189 --> 04:11:38,460
technological progress over the years

5893
04:11:43,010 --> 04:11:40,199
the event just seemed stranger and

5894
04:11:46,729 --> 04:11:43,020
stranger to me for example there were no

5895
04:11:48,950 --> 04:11:46,739
commercially available drones in 2007

5896
04:11:51,410 --> 04:11:48,960
2008 when this happened

5897
04:11:53,330 --> 04:11:51,420
the fact that there was no noise you

5898
04:11:55,969 --> 04:11:53,340
know you can hear a helicopter from

5899
04:11:58,729 --> 04:11:55,979
very far away before you even see it and

5900
04:12:00,410 --> 04:11:58,739
I could see whatever this object was and

5901
04:12:03,910 --> 04:12:00,420
there was no noise but probably

5902
04:12:08,330 --> 04:12:03,920
personally the most alarming thing to me

5903
04:12:11,630 --> 04:12:08,340
I'm very interested in alien abductions

5904
04:12:13,610 --> 04:12:11,640
I I've read many accounts of you know

5905
04:12:15,170 --> 04:12:13,620
that of course there's very famous alien

5906
04:12:17,330 --> 04:12:15,180
abductions to

5907
04:12:19,610 --> 04:12:17,340
people's anecdotal stories on you know

5908
04:12:20,750 --> 04:12:19,620
Reddit or whatever

5909
04:12:23,030 --> 04:12:20,760
um but

5910
04:12:25,189 --> 04:12:23,040
I learned about the Terry Lovelace

5911
04:12:27,950 --> 04:12:25,199
abduction

5912
04:12:29,410 --> 04:12:27,960
uh sometime in the past six years or so

5913
04:12:33,769 --> 04:12:29,420
five or six years

5914
04:12:35,330 --> 04:12:33,779
and uh the way that he described his

5915
04:12:37,729 --> 04:12:35,340
craft

5916
04:12:39,349 --> 04:12:37,739
especially when he when they first saw

5917
04:12:42,349 --> 04:12:39,359
it

5918
04:12:44,990 --> 04:12:42,359
um is strikingly similar to what my

5919
04:12:47,990 --> 04:12:45,000
brother described seeing and strikingly

5920
04:12:49,670 --> 04:12:48,000
similar to kind of what I saw

5921
04:12:51,830 --> 04:12:49,680
and

5922
04:12:53,389 --> 04:12:51,840
I don't know I remember I I read that

5923
04:12:55,849 --> 04:12:53,399
account and I sent that to my brother

5924
04:12:58,969 --> 04:12:55,859
and I said read this and think about

5925
04:13:00,469 --> 04:12:58,979
what we saw and he was he definitely had

5926
04:13:02,630 --> 04:13:00,479
an interesting response to it you know

5927
04:13:03,889 --> 04:13:02,640
it's a really crazy story albeit we

5928
04:13:06,530 --> 04:13:03,899
don't have a ton of

5929
04:13:08,389 --> 04:13:06,540
evidence outside of you know the the

5930
04:13:10,670 --> 04:13:08,399
weird bone growth and the implants

5931
04:13:13,790 --> 04:13:10,680
inside his bodies you know and and

5932
04:13:16,969 --> 04:13:13,800
that's you know another topic but

5933
04:13:19,370 --> 04:13:16,979
I don't know the the proximity of the

5934
04:13:21,229 --> 04:13:19,380
craft to our home

5935
04:13:23,269 --> 04:13:21,239
and thinking about what happened to

5936
04:13:25,550 --> 04:13:23,279
Terry and also the things that he

5937
04:13:26,510 --> 04:13:25,560
described you know recalling in his

5938
04:13:29,750 --> 04:13:26,520
dreams

5939
04:13:33,110 --> 04:13:29,760
was alarming to me and my thought was

5940
04:13:36,530 --> 04:13:33,120
were we about to be visited by beings or

5941
04:13:37,910 --> 04:13:36,540
was this just a military craft that was

5942
04:13:40,610 --> 04:13:37,920
just hanging out but I don't know that

5943
04:13:44,150 --> 04:13:40,620
story has always seemed interesting to

5944
04:13:48,550 --> 04:13:44,160
me uh within the scope of my sighting

5945
04:13:54,889 --> 04:13:48,560
I'm still a firm believer in

5946
04:13:58,250 --> 04:13:54,899
uh in UFOs and uh I believe that

5947
04:14:00,790 --> 04:13:58,260
whatever the phenomenon is is much

5948
04:14:03,050 --> 04:14:00,800
larger than we could possibly understand

5949
04:14:05,929 --> 04:14:03,060
without you know having Insider

5950
04:14:07,490 --> 04:14:05,939
information as it seems there are

5951
04:14:10,189 --> 04:14:07,500
organizations that have Insider

5952
04:14:12,229 --> 04:14:10,199
information but I think that we're

5953
04:14:14,450 --> 04:14:12,239
experiencing something real and

5954
04:14:17,090 --> 04:14:14,460
especially with the events that have

5955
04:14:19,250 --> 04:14:17,100
taken place over the past year with

5956
04:14:22,130 --> 04:14:19,260
Commander fravers

5957
04:14:24,349 --> 04:14:22,140
account becoming public

5958
04:14:27,229 --> 04:14:24,359
um the military report

5959
04:14:28,429 --> 04:14:27,239
or the report from the Department of

5960
04:14:30,950 --> 04:14:28,439
Defense

5961
04:14:32,870 --> 04:14:30,960
it's it's all very uh

5962
04:14:36,050 --> 04:14:32,880
I don't know it's nice to have this

5963
04:14:39,229 --> 04:14:36,060
affirmation coming from our government

5964
04:14:40,729 --> 04:14:39,239
and highly qualified Pilots talking

5965
04:14:43,910 --> 04:14:40,739
about these sightings and talking about

5966
04:14:45,830 --> 04:14:43,920
these unexplained events and uh it makes

5967
04:14:48,969 --> 04:14:45,840
me feel a lot better about what I saw

5968
04:14:52,790 --> 04:14:48,979
and how consistent the sightings are

5969
04:14:56,389 --> 04:14:52,800
over many different societies and

5970
04:14:56,960 --> 04:14:56,399
cultures and uh it's comforting to think

5971
04:14:59,889 --> 04:14:56,970
of that

5972
04:15:02,030 --> 04:14:59,899
[Music]

5973
04:15:04,189 --> 04:15:02,040
hello Ryan and somewhere in the sky

5974
04:15:06,290 --> 04:15:04,199
fellow listeners my name is Reggie from

5975
04:15:07,250 --> 04:15:06,300
San Antonio tuna Texas a little

5976
04:15:09,229 --> 04:15:07,260
background

5977
04:15:10,849 --> 04:15:09,239
about me before going to my strange

5978
04:15:13,070 --> 04:15:10,859
sightings including a science teacher

5979
04:15:16,130 --> 04:15:13,080
and have any background in Sciences like

5980
04:15:18,229 --> 04:15:16,140
biology and physics this being said I

5981
04:15:19,849 --> 04:15:18,239
never thought deeply into the UFO or UOP

5982
04:15:22,550 --> 04:15:19,859
stories as they were always considered

5983
04:15:24,469 --> 04:15:22,560
blue in my opinion and even in the

5984
04:15:26,510 --> 04:15:24,479
science Community abductions being the

5985
04:15:28,570 --> 04:15:26,520
whole thing where you immediately think

5986
04:15:32,450 --> 04:15:28,580
tinfoil hat

5987
04:15:34,490 --> 04:15:32,460
skept or nuts so much

5988
04:15:36,410 --> 04:15:34,500
I guess conspiracy theory but maybe a

5989
04:15:38,150 --> 04:15:36,420
little of that however in these past few

5990
04:15:40,670 --> 04:15:38,160
years I kind of changed my whole

5991
04:15:43,130 --> 04:15:40,680
perspective After experiencing some

5992
04:15:44,389 --> 04:15:43,140
weird sightings and even hearing some

5993
04:15:45,469 --> 04:15:44,399
weird sightings especially for my

5994
04:15:48,050 --> 04:15:45,479
parents

5995
04:15:50,150 --> 04:15:48,060
so I thought I'd share some that changed

5996
04:15:52,429 --> 04:15:50,160
my whole perspective like I said

5997
04:15:54,530 --> 04:15:52,439
especially

5998
04:15:56,450 --> 04:15:54,540
you know considering that this world's a

5999
04:15:59,170 --> 04:15:56,460
big place the sky's a big place we don't

6000
04:16:02,450 --> 04:15:59,180
always look up right and so who knows

6001
04:16:04,729 --> 04:16:02,460
what these things can be but my first

6002
04:16:06,650 --> 04:16:04,739
sighting I'd like to share was when I

6003
04:16:08,210 --> 04:16:06,660
was on my way to work so there was

6004
04:16:11,030 --> 04:16:08,220
something that caught my attention maybe

6005
04:16:12,349 --> 04:16:11,040
a few miles away a couple hundred feet

6006
04:16:14,990 --> 04:16:12,359
in the air

6007
04:16:17,929 --> 04:16:15,000
but I guess the size of a small building

6008
04:16:21,229 --> 04:16:17,939
that power up this object with silver

6009
04:16:23,090 --> 04:16:21,239
metallic and says the sun shine on it

6010
04:16:24,110 --> 04:16:23,100
gave a little glare I can make up the

6011
04:16:27,170 --> 04:16:24,120
shape

6012
04:16:30,170 --> 04:16:27,180
spherical but it looked like it was

6013
04:16:32,090 --> 04:16:30,180
spinning a little bit and so wow I

6014
04:16:34,370 --> 04:16:32,100
thought maybe a balloon

6015
04:16:36,830 --> 04:16:34,380
but until it started moving then it

6016
04:16:40,010 --> 04:16:36,840
really made me question what it was

6017
04:16:41,990 --> 04:16:40,020
and so what happened was that it started

6018
04:16:44,510 --> 04:16:42,000
moving left and right

6019
04:16:46,070 --> 04:16:44,520
then it went up vertically and it just

6020
04:16:47,510 --> 04:16:46,080
seemed to vanish as if somebody just

6021
04:16:50,330 --> 04:16:47,520
snapped their fingers and made it vanish

6022
04:16:52,010 --> 04:16:50,340
or just vanish Into Thin Air So

6023
04:16:55,729 --> 04:16:52,020
eventually by that time I reported this

6024
04:16:57,830 --> 04:16:55,739
to move on and I was emailed back by a

6025
04:16:58,870 --> 04:16:57,840
representative there who was looking

6026
04:17:01,429 --> 04:16:58,880
into

6027
04:17:04,189 --> 04:17:01,439
my siding a little bit more to get more

6028
04:17:05,450 --> 04:17:04,199
detail so I gave them the details I told

6029
04:17:07,729 --> 04:17:05,460
him what I remember

6030
04:17:10,189 --> 04:17:07,739
and so they kind of shared a little bit

6031
04:17:11,929 --> 04:17:10,199
about my sighting they said that it was

6032
04:17:13,689 --> 04:17:11,939
kind of seen before

6033
04:17:18,170 --> 04:17:13,699
maybe something a little bit different

6034
04:17:21,050 --> 04:17:18,180
but similar in my area maybe 20 30 miles

6035
04:17:23,030 --> 04:17:21,060
away more or less and

6036
04:17:25,130 --> 04:17:23,040
it was something similar right that

6037
04:17:27,710 --> 04:17:25,140
other people have saw and they thought

6038
04:17:29,870 --> 04:17:27,720
maybe drone or something drone like but

6039
04:17:32,450 --> 04:17:29,880
with the way it moved it didn't really

6040
04:17:34,729 --> 04:17:32,460
follow any drones that we have nowadays

6041
04:17:38,269 --> 04:17:34,739
specially with the speed and just how it

6042
04:17:39,469 --> 04:17:38,279
vanished is just perplexing and so my

6043
04:17:42,469 --> 04:17:39,479
other sighting

6044
04:17:44,809 --> 04:17:42,479
being one where I was actually sitting

6045
04:17:47,269 --> 04:17:44,819
outside one evening and

6046
04:17:49,610 --> 04:17:47,279
something caught my attention it was a

6047
04:17:52,550 --> 04:17:49,620
bright light so I thought oh maybe

6048
04:17:55,969 --> 04:17:52,560
satellites meteor something else a plane

6049
04:17:58,550 --> 04:17:55,979
but since the light was really bright I

6050
04:18:00,469 --> 04:17:58,560
could not pinpoint what exactly it was

6051
04:18:03,170 --> 04:18:00,479
it didn't move like a satellites it

6052
04:18:06,590 --> 04:18:03,180
didn't look like space debris the way

6053
04:18:07,969 --> 04:18:06,600
it's just shined or typical space debris

6054
04:18:11,570 --> 04:18:07,979
where it has a different Hues and

6055
04:18:12,889 --> 04:18:11,580
whatnot but again you know it seemed

6056
04:18:20,150 --> 04:18:12,899
like

6057
04:18:23,389 --> 04:18:20,160
don't know if it was three objects

6058
04:18:26,990 --> 04:18:23,399
because I saw three lights just blinking

6059
04:18:28,189 --> 04:18:27,000
very slowly as it pulsating but really

6060
04:18:30,110 --> 04:18:28,199
really slow

6061
04:18:32,269 --> 04:18:30,120
and so these three lights were in three

6062
04:18:34,429 --> 04:18:32,279
different locations so I don't know if

6063
04:18:37,189 --> 04:18:34,439
the object moved if there was one object

6064
04:18:40,670 --> 04:18:37,199
or three different objects but the way

6065
04:18:41,870 --> 04:18:40,680
it was as far as its intensity of its

6066
04:18:45,889 --> 04:18:41,880
brightness

6067
04:18:47,510 --> 04:18:45,899
I just don't know and so again like I

6068
04:18:49,370 --> 04:18:47,520
said being someone who has a science

6069
04:18:52,010 --> 04:18:49,380
background always dismissed these things

6070
04:18:54,710 --> 04:18:52,020
as mistaken objects and many are

6071
04:18:56,570 --> 04:18:54,720
and while I still kind of think maybe at

6072
04:18:59,330 --> 04:18:56,580
least the lights what I saw maybe it

6073
04:19:02,450 --> 04:18:59,340
could be something we have and made or

6074
04:19:04,670 --> 04:19:02,460
not I don't know but

6075
04:19:06,590 --> 04:19:04,680
at least my first lighting the way it

6076
04:19:08,090 --> 04:19:06,600
kind of defined physics makes me really

6077
04:19:10,729 --> 04:19:08,100
question

6078
04:19:13,490 --> 04:19:10,739
what exactly I saw

6079
04:19:15,889 --> 04:19:13,500
and so hearing others

6080
04:19:18,229 --> 04:19:15,899
stories of what they saw as well made me

6081
04:19:20,389 --> 04:19:18,239
really kind of have an open mind because

6082
04:19:22,550 --> 04:19:20,399
I know they believe what they saw and it

6083
04:19:25,309 --> 04:19:22,560
could be very much real something

6084
04:19:26,870 --> 04:19:25,319
tangible but again you know without

6085
04:19:30,349 --> 04:19:26,880
having data it's hard to kind of make

6086
04:19:32,150 --> 04:19:30,359
sense of it and so an interest string uh

6087
04:19:34,610 --> 04:19:32,160
story

6088
04:19:37,969 --> 04:19:34,620
from my parents though I'd like to share

6089
04:19:40,550 --> 04:19:37,979
is the first one from my dad and so

6090
04:19:42,110 --> 04:19:40,560
again you know being skeptical always

6091
04:19:43,969 --> 04:19:42,120
kind of dismissed their stories I didn't

6092
04:19:46,729 --> 04:19:43,979
really think much of it I'm like oh it's

6093
04:19:49,130 --> 04:19:46,739
just a story right but until recently

6094
04:19:51,410 --> 04:19:49,140
when we had these Navy Pilots come

6095
04:19:53,450 --> 04:19:51,420
forward and share their sightings and

6096
04:19:55,729 --> 04:19:53,460
they had data they had radar data they

6097
04:19:57,889 --> 04:19:55,739
had different types of something right

6098
04:19:59,269 --> 04:19:57,899
that they can gather right as far as

6099
04:20:01,849 --> 04:19:59,279
something

6100
04:20:03,650 --> 04:20:01,859
that we can share right data we can

6101
04:20:06,229 --> 04:20:03,660
share and something we can make sense of

6102
04:20:10,670 --> 04:20:06,239
uh with our current technology

6103
04:20:12,110 --> 04:20:10,680
but even so when my dad was in the Navy

6104
04:20:48,349 --> 04:20:12,120
he

6105
04:20:51,170 --> 04:20:48,359
really quick

6106
04:20:52,849 --> 04:20:51,180
it just stopped as if just all of a

6107
04:20:55,010 --> 04:20:52,859
sudden and then dropped

6108
04:20:56,510 --> 04:20:55,020
vertically down to the ocean

6109
04:20:59,750 --> 04:20:56,520
and this kind of matches one of those

6110
04:21:01,729 --> 04:20:59,760
stories that the Navy caught on their

6111
04:21:04,809 --> 04:21:01,739
camera I believe

6112
04:21:08,150 --> 04:21:04,819
and you know it just fell in the water

6113
04:21:10,189 --> 04:21:08,160
so it went into a different medium and

6114
04:21:12,070 --> 04:21:10,199
so my dad also worked on radar systems

6115
04:21:14,450 --> 04:21:12,080
and he didn't mention

6116
04:21:17,269 --> 04:21:14,460
that he

6117
04:21:19,550 --> 04:21:17,279
looked at the the radar and yes it did

6118
04:21:21,530 --> 04:21:19,560
move fast but he tried to report it and

6119
04:21:24,950 --> 04:21:21,540
of course he was easily

6120
04:21:27,469 --> 04:21:24,960
shot down uh so to speak where he said

6121
04:21:31,070 --> 04:21:27,479
hey you didn't or actually he reported

6122
04:21:32,630 --> 04:21:31,080
to his superiors and they said no you

6123
04:21:34,790 --> 04:21:32,640
didn't see anything you're not going to

6124
04:21:35,870 --> 04:21:34,800
report it if you report it you want to

6125
04:21:37,309 --> 04:21:35,880
take it up

6126
04:21:39,110 --> 04:21:37,319
to someone higher

6127
04:21:40,670 --> 04:21:39,120
then you're just going to be

6128
04:21:41,750 --> 04:21:40,680
court-martialed kicked out of the

6129
04:21:44,210 --> 04:21:41,760
military you're not going to have any

6130
04:21:46,130 --> 04:21:44,220
benefits and that's that your whole

6131
04:21:48,410 --> 04:21:46,140
military career is over

6132
04:21:50,750 --> 04:21:48,420
and so he didn't really want to mention

6133
04:21:52,490 --> 04:21:50,760
it for that reason right

6134
04:21:54,830 --> 04:21:52,500
and so I guess until recently he wanted

6135
04:21:56,870 --> 04:21:54,840
to share it because he said well others

6136
04:21:58,910 --> 04:21:56,880
are sure in it they're not you know I'm

6137
04:22:01,010 --> 04:21:58,920
gonna you know get Court martial since

6138
04:22:03,469 --> 04:22:01,020
they're out of the military so you know

6139
04:22:07,429 --> 04:22:03,479
it's just one of those strange stories

6140
04:22:11,030 --> 04:22:07,439
and so my other story I'd like to share

6141
04:22:14,689 --> 04:22:11,040
is from my mom and so she said that she

6142
04:22:18,530 --> 04:22:14,699
saw a few sightings and so there's

6143
04:22:21,530 --> 04:22:18,540
really just two that she said they were

6144
04:22:24,229 --> 04:22:21,540
just battling and so her first setting

6145
04:22:26,570 --> 04:22:24,239
and even the second one was in the last

6146
04:22:29,210 --> 04:22:26,580
several years or so and so it was

6147
04:22:32,990 --> 04:22:29,220
similar to mine in a sense but it looked

6148
04:22:35,269 --> 04:22:33,000
like a flying saucer and so it looked

6149
04:22:37,370 --> 04:22:35,279
like a typical metallic blind saucer

6150
04:22:39,650 --> 04:22:37,380
spinning they seemed to hover above the

6151
04:22:41,870 --> 04:22:39,660
tree line and so what happened was since

6152
04:22:43,969 --> 04:22:41,880
she was on her way to work it was early

6153
04:22:47,150 --> 04:22:43,979
morning but brighten up where you can

6154
04:22:50,389 --> 04:22:47,160
see uh things in the sky

6155
04:22:51,229 --> 04:22:50,399
and so she was at a four-way stop

6156
04:22:58,790 --> 04:22:51,239
he

6157
04:23:01,490 --> 04:22:58,800
that Flying Saucer and it was spinning

6158
04:23:03,769 --> 04:23:01,500
like I said usually like a flying saucer

6159
04:23:05,570 --> 04:23:03,779
but it seemed to rise vertically and

6160
04:23:06,769 --> 04:23:05,580
then quickly shot up in the air and just

6161
04:23:08,210 --> 04:23:06,779
disappear

6162
04:23:11,210 --> 04:23:08,220
she couldn't

6163
04:23:12,469 --> 04:23:11,220
get to her phone film at as quickly as

6164
04:23:14,330 --> 04:23:12,479
she wanted to because it just happened

6165
04:23:17,750 --> 04:23:14,340
so quick

6166
04:23:19,490 --> 04:23:17,760
second one for her second sighting was

6167
04:23:21,530 --> 04:23:19,500
one where she wasn't even trying to get

6168
04:23:25,309 --> 04:23:21,540
it on camera but she just so happened to

6169
04:23:27,530 --> 04:23:25,319
and so this craft was really interesting

6170
04:23:29,389 --> 04:23:27,540
she

6171
04:23:32,090 --> 04:23:29,399
said and even look in the video it

6172
04:23:34,370 --> 04:23:32,100
looked like just a somewhat metallic

6173
04:23:35,410 --> 04:23:34,380
craft and seemed to just be moving in

6174
04:23:37,910 --> 04:23:35,420
the clouds

6175
04:23:40,130 --> 04:23:37,920
but it's hard to make sense of what it

6176
04:23:41,809 --> 04:23:40,140
was since it's so far up in the air and

6177
04:23:45,130 --> 04:23:41,819
again an iPhone camera is not going to

6178
04:23:47,389 --> 04:23:45,140
be the best thing to film with

6179
04:23:48,769 --> 04:23:47,399
and you know if it was maybe something

6180
04:23:50,210 --> 04:23:48,779
fancier maybe you can make it out a

6181
04:23:52,010 --> 04:23:50,220
little bit better but just the way it

6182
04:23:54,710 --> 04:23:52,020
moved was just peculiar

6183
04:23:57,229 --> 04:23:54,720
and so this is interesting in that

6184
04:23:59,630 --> 04:23:57,239
regard that we don't know what it is but

6185
04:24:00,830 --> 04:23:59,640
at least she reported it and caught it

6186
04:24:01,790 --> 04:24:00,840
on camera even though she didn't really

6187
04:24:03,650 --> 04:24:01,800
mean to

6188
04:24:08,269 --> 04:24:03,660
and I guess you know as far as what I

6189
04:24:10,429 --> 04:24:08,279
saw to religious uh make any sense of it

6190
04:24:13,189 --> 04:24:10,439
heads or tails of what it is I don't

6191
04:24:14,530 --> 04:24:13,199
know it's hard not to make a conclusion

6192
04:24:17,689 --> 04:24:14,540
when there's no

6193
04:24:20,389 --> 04:24:17,699
solid data so I don't have radar I don't

6194
04:24:23,389 --> 04:24:20,399
have anything like that that or a nice

6195
04:24:25,189 --> 04:24:23,399
disposable or even in my area there's

6196
04:24:27,290 --> 04:24:25,199
just even the military I don't even know

6197
04:24:29,809 --> 04:24:27,300
they caught it on their radar who knows

6198
04:24:32,870 --> 04:24:29,819
but the first setting with its erratic

6199
04:24:35,269 --> 04:24:32,880
movement made me think drunk since there

6200
04:24:37,250 --> 04:24:35,279
are drones in my area it typically look

6201
04:24:39,290 --> 04:24:37,260
like the plain looking drone right white

6202
04:24:40,550 --> 04:24:39,300
in color and whatnot but just the way

6203
04:24:45,050 --> 04:24:40,560
this object looked the way it was

6204
04:24:46,969 --> 04:24:45,060
spinning it was metallic for sure

6205
04:24:49,729 --> 04:24:46,979
um and it was spherical so it was unlike

6206
04:24:51,650 --> 04:24:49,739
any drone I've ever seen and the fact

6207
04:24:54,590 --> 04:24:51,660
that it wasn't even near the military

6208
04:24:58,309 --> 04:24:54,600
base just makes me really think what the

6209
04:25:01,130 --> 04:24:58,319
heck it was right but even so the way it

6210
04:25:03,469 --> 04:25:01,140
moved quickly with its movement and then

6211
04:25:05,389 --> 04:25:03,479
it vanished is just perplexing so I

6212
04:25:07,070 --> 04:25:05,399
don't know what it is and I wish I would

6213
04:25:09,830 --> 04:25:07,080
have caught it on film

6214
04:25:11,990 --> 04:25:09,840
but I mean since again I was driving

6215
04:25:16,729 --> 04:25:12,000
it's just that's kind of frowned upon

6216
04:25:19,189 --> 04:25:16,739
it's not legally uh an option right so

6217
04:25:21,469 --> 04:25:19,199
you know the second sighting I had saw

6218
04:25:24,229 --> 04:25:21,479
the lights just you know I don't know

6219
04:25:28,250 --> 04:25:24,239
and I would think again meteor maybe

6220
04:25:29,750 --> 04:25:28,260
drone I really just don't know but the

6221
04:25:32,450 --> 04:25:29,760
way that

6222
04:25:35,150 --> 04:25:32,460
the light was as far as its intensity

6223
04:25:37,670 --> 04:25:35,160
was just something different

6224
04:25:41,030 --> 04:25:37,680
and even if I had fancy equipment to

6225
04:25:42,170 --> 04:25:41,040
film it to get data I don't even know if

6226
04:25:44,809 --> 04:25:42,180
we would be able to make sense of it

6227
04:25:48,290 --> 04:25:44,819
even at that and so

6228
04:25:50,050 --> 04:25:48,300
space debris could be an option but as

6229
04:25:53,389 --> 04:25:50,060
far as how we can be in it almost

6230
04:25:55,610 --> 04:25:53,399
triangular shape the way it moved or

6231
04:25:56,750 --> 04:25:55,620
if it was one object or three objects I

6232
04:25:59,929 --> 04:25:56,760
just don't know

6233
04:26:01,670 --> 04:25:59,939
but more than likely meteors would emits

6234
04:26:05,149 --> 04:26:01,680
or different meteors would admit

6235
04:26:09,469 --> 04:26:05,159
different colors and they wouldn't uh I

6236
04:26:11,630 --> 04:26:09,479
guess be that color but I don't know

6237
04:26:14,290 --> 04:26:11,640
it's hard to say it could very well be

6238
04:26:17,330 --> 04:26:14,300
space debris but just the way it

6239
04:26:18,889 --> 04:26:17,340
just shine or the way the light was just

6240
04:26:21,229 --> 04:26:18,899
as peculiar

6241
04:26:24,649 --> 04:26:21,239
so it really didn't fall like space

6242
04:26:26,870 --> 04:26:24,659
three either so it's hard to say but

6243
04:26:28,010 --> 04:26:26,880
look into the accounts and move on I

6244
04:26:30,170 --> 04:26:28,020
mean these lights have been seen before

6245
04:26:32,929 --> 04:26:30,180
at least so still baffling so I don't

6246
04:26:34,370 --> 04:26:32,939
know but all in all I mean just seeing

6247
04:26:37,090 --> 04:26:34,380
these sightings changed my whole

6248
04:26:40,250 --> 04:26:37,100
perspective uh these

6249
04:26:44,030 --> 04:26:40,260
UFO or UAP phenomena that people report

6250
04:26:46,370 --> 04:26:44,040
and again I'm not 100 100 excuse me 100

6251
04:26:47,570 --> 04:26:46,380
events that these are quote-unquote

6252
04:26:49,429 --> 04:26:47,580
alien

6253
04:26:51,229 --> 04:26:49,439
there could be something else that we

6254
04:26:53,389 --> 04:26:51,239
just don't know and considering we're

6255
04:26:55,729 --> 04:26:53,399
barely scratching the surface of modern

6256
04:26:57,590 --> 04:26:55,739
physics including quantum physics string

6257
04:26:59,929 --> 04:26:57,600
theory and what have you

6258
04:27:02,649 --> 04:26:59,939
it's just really hard to say so until we

6259
04:27:05,689 --> 04:27:02,659
get more understanding of the universe

6260
04:27:06,769 --> 04:27:05,699
bigger and small I guess it's just hard

6261
04:27:09,550 --> 04:27:06,779
to say

6262
04:27:13,250 --> 04:27:09,560
but I'd like to kind of share what one

6263
04:27:15,229 --> 04:27:13,260
notable scientific figure has been

6264
04:27:18,469 --> 04:27:15,239
saying recently too on some podcasts

6265
04:27:20,389 --> 04:27:18,479
Wanna Be an Abbey low Professor abilo

6266
04:27:22,370 --> 04:27:20,399
that made some interesting points he

6267
04:27:25,490 --> 04:27:22,380
said that we're kind of in the same era

6268
04:27:27,410 --> 04:27:25,500
that Galileo was where he shared his

6269
04:27:29,210 --> 04:27:27,420
accounts of what he thought to be true

6270
04:27:31,550 --> 04:27:29,220
based on what he saw in his telescopes

6271
04:27:33,410 --> 04:27:31,560
but his colleagues dismiss his ideas

6272
04:27:35,870 --> 04:27:33,420
because they had their own understanding

6273
04:27:38,570 --> 04:27:35,880
their own bias and they weren't open to

6274
04:27:40,790 --> 04:27:38,580
getting the data they just dismissed it

6275
04:27:43,910 --> 04:27:40,800
and called him crazy a crackpot right

6276
04:27:46,189 --> 04:27:43,920
but whether he was French or not doesn't

6277
04:27:47,809 --> 04:27:46,199
matter he got data and So eventually we

6278
04:27:51,950 --> 04:27:47,819
made sense then now we know the world is

6279
04:27:53,570 --> 04:27:51,960
not flat it's round right so just to

6280
04:27:58,550 --> 04:27:53,580
dismiss these things it still is just

6281
04:28:02,330 --> 04:27:58,560
absurd and so not to kind of dismiss or

6282
04:28:04,010 --> 04:28:02,340
kind of uh shun such notable figures

6283
04:28:06,649 --> 04:28:04,020
like Neil regress Tyson or Brian Cox

6284
04:28:09,530 --> 04:28:06,659
which are very brilliant individuals

6285
04:28:12,170 --> 04:28:09,540
but I guess these

6286
04:28:13,969 --> 04:28:12,180
scientists dismiss these ideas from the

6287
04:28:16,309 --> 04:28:13,979
public because it doesn't go with their

6288
04:28:17,870 --> 04:28:16,319
status quo and so maybe it's their

6289
04:28:20,149 --> 04:28:17,880
public status they want to keep funding

6290
04:28:22,189 --> 04:28:20,159
and whatnot that's important keep your

6291
04:28:24,590 --> 04:28:22,199
funding to do your research but it's

6292
04:28:26,450 --> 04:28:24,600
still not good to dismiss what's already

6293
04:28:28,429 --> 04:28:26,460
out there as far as evidence and so

6294
04:28:30,830 --> 04:28:28,439
since the militaries Gathering data

6295
04:28:32,870 --> 04:28:30,840
about these phenomena

6296
04:28:35,330 --> 04:28:32,880
I think that's a good thing so the more

6297
04:28:36,590 --> 04:28:35,340
we understand the better we can wrap our

6298
04:28:38,990 --> 04:28:36,600
heads around what's going on in the

6299
04:28:40,849 --> 04:28:39,000
world and the universe so regardless of

6300
04:28:43,729 --> 04:28:40,859
what these studies may be

6301
04:28:47,269 --> 04:28:43,739
and they alter one's worldview and even

6302
04:28:50,149 --> 04:28:47,279
the universe but probably the best

6303
04:28:51,830 --> 04:28:50,159
option is to keep a modest approach to

6304
04:28:54,469 --> 04:28:51,840
what these are instead of making a lot

6305
04:28:56,990 --> 04:28:54,479
of conclusions but until we get more

6306
04:28:57,950 --> 04:28:57,000
data it's hard to say what these things

6307
04:28:59,809 --> 04:28:57,960
are

6308
04:29:02,330 --> 04:28:59,819
so like I said at least the military and

6309
04:29:04,490 --> 04:29:02,340
even the Galileo project is making a

6310
04:29:06,170 --> 04:29:04,500
good kind of approach to Gathering data

6311
04:29:07,610 --> 04:29:06,180
so we can know what these things are

6312
04:29:09,830 --> 04:29:07,620
possibly

6313
04:29:11,570 --> 04:29:09,840
so again I'm pleased to share my

6314
04:29:13,429 --> 04:29:11,580
accounts with you all and I look forward

6315
04:29:14,210 --> 04:29:13,439
to hearing what everybody else has to

6316
04:29:24,590 --> 04:29:14,220
share

6317
04:29:30,290 --> 04:29:27,769
hey Ryan my name is Patrick I'm 30 years

6318
04:29:32,929 --> 04:29:30,300
old and I live in Germany thanks for

6319
04:29:37,429 --> 04:29:32,939
letting me present my case here

6320
04:29:40,670 --> 04:29:37,439
um so when I was either 16 or 17 in 2008

6321
04:29:42,830 --> 04:29:40,680
or 2009 I had a close encounter with a

6322
04:29:44,990 --> 04:29:42,840
triangular UFO with my friend this

6323
04:29:46,670 --> 04:29:45,000
happened during our summer vacation we

6324
04:29:48,429 --> 04:29:46,680
spend a lot of time together in the

6325
04:29:51,530 --> 04:29:48,439
village named hudu

6326
04:29:54,170 --> 04:29:51,540
h-u-d-e in Northern Germany we often

6327
04:29:56,570 --> 04:29:54,180
stayed up very late one night we decided

6328
04:29:59,149 --> 04:29:56,580
to go for a walk it was already after

6329
04:30:01,429 --> 04:29:59,159
midnight and at this time there are

6330
04:30:03,349 --> 04:30:01,439
hardly any people out in the area we

6331
04:30:06,170 --> 04:30:03,359
worked on a deserted two-lane country

6332
04:30:07,490 --> 04:30:06,180
road on the bike path we were surrounded

6333
04:30:10,309 --> 04:30:07,500
by fields

6334
04:30:12,050 --> 04:30:10,319
suddenly I notice an object moving

6335
04:30:14,630 --> 04:30:12,060
directly in our direction from the right

6336
04:30:16,670 --> 04:30:14,640
above the field I pointed this out to my

6337
04:30:19,429 --> 04:30:16,680
buddy and we both start Spellbound to

6338
04:30:21,830 --> 04:30:19,439
watch it floated right over our heads

6339
04:30:24,590 --> 04:30:21,840
across the street and very slowly

6340
04:30:28,370 --> 04:30:24,600
without making any sound it was dark

6341
04:30:31,130 --> 04:30:28,380
maybe black and an equal sided triangle

6342
04:30:33,530 --> 04:30:31,140
that was clearly a solid object you

6343
04:30:36,950 --> 04:30:33,540
could see it very clearly we only saw

6344
04:30:39,649 --> 04:30:36,960
its Underside sadly in each of the

6345
04:30:41,809 --> 04:30:39,659
corners was a round whitish light there

6346
04:30:44,389 --> 04:30:41,819
was also a round light in the center in

6347
04:30:47,570 --> 04:30:44,399
the middle but it was kind of different

6348
04:30:50,030 --> 04:30:47,580
I can't remember the exact color of it

6349
04:30:54,590 --> 04:30:50,040
it didn't shine brightly none of the

6350
04:30:58,849 --> 04:30:54,600
lights did the lights were dim as if not

6351
04:30:59,889 --> 04:30:58,859
wanting to be noticed or blending us who

6352
04:31:04,149 --> 04:30:59,899
knows

6353
04:31:06,830 --> 04:31:04,159
as an untrained Observer like I am

6354
04:31:12,050 --> 04:31:06,840
I could be wrong but it seemed to me

6355
04:31:15,710 --> 04:31:12,060
that the the UFO was flying so low that

6356
04:31:17,570 --> 04:31:15,720
I could have thrown a rocketed I wish I

6357
04:31:21,050 --> 04:31:17,580
could remember the event more clearly

6358
04:31:22,689 --> 04:31:21,060
but it's been a long time details blur

6359
04:31:27,110 --> 04:31:22,699
over time you know

6360
04:31:29,389 --> 04:31:27,120
sadly I said um when we saw it I said

6361
04:31:32,510 --> 04:31:29,399
straight to my buddy that it must be a

6362
04:31:36,349 --> 04:31:32,520
UFO since I had seen similar objects

6363
04:31:38,750 --> 04:31:36,359
before in the um The X-Files the series

6364
04:31:42,050 --> 04:31:38,760
it's

6365
04:31:44,830 --> 04:31:42,060
um yeah I seemed to react a lot more to

6366
04:31:47,389 --> 04:31:44,840
the sighting than my buddy did strangely

6367
04:31:51,530 --> 04:31:47,399
although I had a camera phone in my

6368
04:31:53,990 --> 04:31:51,540
pocket I didn't that took it out on the

6369
04:31:57,229 --> 04:31:54,000
one hand I had the thought that the

6370
04:32:00,349 --> 04:31:57,239
object might notice this and I might get

6371
04:32:01,550 --> 04:32:00,359
into trouble who knows and on the other

6372
04:32:03,950 --> 04:32:01,560
hand

6373
04:32:07,490 --> 04:32:03,960
um I didn't want to miss a second with

6374
04:32:11,510 --> 04:32:07,500
my own eyes on the other side of the

6375
04:32:14,330 --> 04:32:11,520
world there was a row of trees and the

6376
04:32:16,490 --> 04:32:14,340
field there was also higher overgrown so

6377
04:32:19,250 --> 04:32:16,500
we didn't follow the object any further

6378
04:32:20,530 --> 04:32:19,260
and couldn't observe it from there

6379
04:32:24,649 --> 04:32:20,540
anymore

6380
04:32:27,170 --> 04:32:24,659
then after it we both got very scared

6381
04:32:29,330 --> 04:32:27,180
and very quickly went back to my

6382
04:32:33,769 --> 04:32:29,340
friend's house

6383
04:32:36,349 --> 04:32:33,779
um it was very scary to us actually

6384
04:32:39,070 --> 04:32:36,359
um this wasn't my only UFO setting in my

6385
04:32:42,469 --> 04:32:39,080
life a paranormal experience really

6386
04:32:45,830 --> 04:32:42,479
however I often only stick to this story

6387
04:32:50,870 --> 04:32:45,840
when telling it because otherwise it

6388
04:32:53,870 --> 04:32:50,880
just seems other more implausible I saw

6389
04:32:56,330 --> 04:32:53,880
this close encounter as a sign that my

6390
04:33:00,410 --> 04:32:56,340
previous experiences weren't imaginary

6391
04:33:02,349 --> 04:33:00,420
either who knows right however the

6392
04:33:04,849 --> 04:33:02,359
Triangular you've outtopped everything

6393
04:33:08,990 --> 04:33:04,859
especially because I hadn't seen it

6394
04:33:10,869 --> 04:33:09,000
alone years later I think late 2017 or

6395
04:33:14,510 --> 04:33:10,879
early 2018

6396
04:33:15,740 --> 04:33:14,520
I reported this to the German UFO

6397
04:33:17,051 --> 04:33:15,750
Reporting office

6398
04:33:21,890 --> 04:33:17,061
[Music]

6399
04:33:25,310 --> 04:33:21,900
igaap they visited me at home in Berlin

6400
04:33:28,551 --> 04:33:25,320
at the time and interviewed me twice for

6401
04:33:30,769 --> 04:33:28,561
several hours and yeah took their notes

6402
04:33:34,730 --> 04:33:30,779
I no longer have any contact with my

6403
04:33:37,670 --> 04:33:34,740
buddy however when I met with him in

6404
04:33:41,330 --> 04:33:37,680
2018 he confirmed to me that we had

6405
04:33:45,109 --> 04:33:41,340
indeed seen this UFO but he doesn't seem

6406
04:33:47,869 --> 04:33:45,119
to want to talk much about it himself I

6407
04:33:51,529 --> 04:33:47,879
um don't know if he's not interested or

6408
04:33:54,709 --> 04:33:51,539
if it if it scares him I don't know I

6409
04:33:58,189 --> 04:33:54,719
don't have any contact with him

6410
04:34:01,670 --> 04:33:58,199
um today I'm neither a scientist nor a

6411
04:34:04,369 --> 04:34:01,680
specialist but seeing this object

6412
04:34:07,310 --> 04:34:04,379
stimulated my imagination whether it was

6413
04:34:10,070 --> 04:34:07,320
classified human military technology or

6414
04:34:13,670 --> 04:34:10,080
non-human technology just knowing that

6415
04:34:16,970 --> 04:34:13,680
something like this can exist is such a

6416
04:34:20,090 --> 04:34:16,980
big thing to me aliens Time Travelers

6417
04:34:23,449 --> 04:34:20,100
beings From Another Dimension even

6418
04:34:25,551 --> 04:34:23,459
Holograms or at least an unexpected

6419
04:34:28,970 --> 04:34:25,561
secret breakthrough an Earthly

6420
04:34:30,070 --> 04:34:28,980
technology who knows I think every thing

6421
04:34:33,650 --> 04:34:30,080
is possible

6422
04:34:36,109 --> 04:34:33,660
if a government really possesses such

6423
04:34:38,750 --> 04:34:36,119
technology and keeps it secret just to

6424
04:34:40,609 --> 04:34:38,760
protect its own interests it would be a

6425
04:34:43,429 --> 04:34:40,619
crime against humanity in my opinion

6426
04:34:47,869 --> 04:34:43,439
because it could change the entire world

6427
04:34:51,849 --> 04:34:47,879
to the better I think but I suppose this

6428
04:34:55,730 --> 04:34:51,859
is what some called patriotism

6429
04:34:57,949 --> 04:34:55,740
who knows I mean if it really is a

6430
04:35:00,289 --> 04:34:57,959
national security issue for the country

6431
04:35:02,750 --> 04:35:00,299
to keep alien like or alien technology

6432
04:35:06,529 --> 04:35:02,760
Secret in order to be able to defend

6433
04:35:11,090 --> 04:35:06,539
itself if the worst comes to the worst

6434
04:35:15,051 --> 04:35:11,100
then the public will never I think never

6435
04:35:18,109 --> 04:35:15,061
be officially on a legally way aware of

6436
04:35:21,289 --> 04:35:18,119
the existence it will always remain

6437
04:35:22,869 --> 04:35:21,299
secret under the under the pretense of

6438
04:35:27,051 --> 04:35:22,879
National Security

6439
04:35:31,269 --> 04:35:27,061
it would be nice if I wasn't right here

6440
04:35:34,010 --> 04:35:31,279
I think we will see we will see such

6441
04:35:36,369 --> 04:35:34,020
objects were cited during the Belgian

6442
04:35:42,650 --> 04:35:36,379
UFO wave of

6443
04:35:47,330 --> 04:35:44,689
um some may remember that

6444
04:35:49,789 --> 04:35:47,340
um even fighter jets were sent out in

6445
04:35:51,410 --> 04:35:49,799
addition a photograph of such a UFO was

6446
04:35:54,410 --> 04:35:51,420
taken

6447
04:35:58,189 --> 04:35:54,420
um at that time the photographer claims

6448
04:36:01,970 --> 04:35:58,199
today that he forged the photo and also

6449
04:36:05,090 --> 04:36:01,980
explains how however Specialists could

6450
04:36:09,709 --> 04:36:05,100
not replicate this I believe he was

6451
04:36:13,849 --> 04:36:09,719
forced to lie and the picture is indeed

6452
04:36:19,189 --> 04:36:13,859
real then this is the best shot of a UFO

6453
04:36:21,709 --> 04:36:19,199
to date so why thank you thank you very

6454
04:36:24,410 --> 04:36:21,719
much so much for giving me the

6455
04:36:28,010 --> 04:36:24,420
opportunity to share my story on your

6456
04:36:29,600 --> 04:36:28,020
podcast if you have any questions you

6457
04:36:32,510 --> 04:36:29,610
know how to contact me

6458
04:36:35,150 --> 04:36:32,520
[Music]

6459
04:36:37,189 --> 04:36:35,160
hey Ryan my name is Rich I live in Erie

6460
04:36:39,650 --> 04:36:37,199
Pennsylvania and I'm originally from

6461
04:36:41,510 --> 04:36:39,660
Iowa and I think I have a story about a

6462
04:36:44,150 --> 04:36:41,520
triangle that you and your listeners

6463
04:36:46,970 --> 04:36:44,160
might be interested in this story goes

6464
04:36:49,490 --> 04:36:46,980
back to 1991 when I was a freshman in

6465
04:36:51,470 --> 04:36:49,500
high school in Northwest Iowa I lived in

6466
04:36:54,709 --> 04:36:51,480
a really small town of about you know 12

6467
04:36:56,810 --> 04:36:54,719
to 14 000 people and because of that

6468
04:36:59,449 --> 04:36:56,820
usually the town surrounded itself

6469
04:37:02,269 --> 04:36:59,459
around whatever was happening with the

6470
04:37:04,849 --> 04:37:02,279
high school and the night that my

6471
04:37:06,830 --> 04:37:04,859
sighting happened it was January or

6472
04:37:08,390 --> 04:37:06,840
February night and there was a

6473
04:37:10,010 --> 04:37:08,400
basketball game that everybody came to

6474
04:37:12,650 --> 04:37:10,020
and they did because we had a really

6475
04:37:15,529 --> 04:37:12,660
talented athlete so it was the thing to

6476
04:37:17,269 --> 04:37:15,539
do in town and as a result of so many

6477
04:37:19,490 --> 04:37:17,279
people being in there the field house

6478
04:37:21,230 --> 04:37:19,500
got really really hot so I decided that

6479
04:37:22,551 --> 04:37:21,240
I'd step outside from the game because

6480
04:37:24,470 --> 04:37:22,561
I'm not really particularly interested

6481
04:37:26,570 --> 04:37:24,480
in sports but you know I went so I went

6482
04:37:28,670 --> 04:37:26,580
outside to cool down and I walked across

6483
04:37:30,650 --> 04:37:28,680
the parking lot to the football field

6484
04:37:32,929 --> 04:37:30,660
and I stood out there for a while I

6485
04:37:35,330 --> 04:37:32,939
remember it was a really clear night you

6486
04:37:37,369 --> 04:37:35,340
could see all of the stars and just

6487
04:37:39,529 --> 04:37:37,379
about the time that I started to feel

6488
04:37:41,330 --> 04:37:39,539
really cold because Northwest Iowa gets

6489
04:37:42,970 --> 04:37:41,340
you know so terribly freezing up there

6490
04:37:46,250 --> 04:37:42,980
and I thought I would go back inside

6491
04:37:47,869 --> 04:37:46,260
there was not a sound but I liken it to

6492
04:37:49,970 --> 04:37:47,879
a sound but it all of a sudden felt like

6493
04:37:52,131 --> 04:37:49,980
there was a buzzing around me kind of

6494
04:37:54,289 --> 04:37:52,141
like if you go on a walk in a city and

6495
04:37:56,269 --> 04:37:54,299
you walk by a power station and you hear

6496
04:37:58,670 --> 04:37:56,279
like that Z that kind of thing well

6497
04:38:00,289 --> 04:37:58,680
again I didn't hear it but I felt it and

6498
04:38:02,929 --> 04:38:00,299
it felt like it was kind of coming down

6499
04:38:05,631 --> 04:38:02,939
all around me and so I looked up just

6500
04:38:08,631 --> 04:38:05,641
kind of curious like what is this and uh

6501
04:38:11,449 --> 04:38:08,641
no joke above the football field was

6502
04:38:15,709 --> 04:38:11,459
this triangle and it was a solid

6503
04:38:18,109 --> 04:38:15,719
triangle it was huge it was to my

6504
04:38:20,869 --> 04:38:18,119
recollection wider than the football

6505
04:38:22,970 --> 04:38:20,879
field and I think probably longer

6506
04:38:24,949 --> 04:38:22,980
although it was an equidistance triangle

6507
04:38:27,170 --> 04:38:24,959
and it was just there it was like just

6508
04:38:31,070 --> 04:38:27,180
hovering above and I remember it blocked

6509
04:38:33,529 --> 04:38:31,080
out the stars and on each pinpoint there

6510
04:38:35,631 --> 04:38:33,539
was like this whitish blue or bluish

6511
04:38:38,090 --> 04:38:35,641
white light just solid not blinking or

6512
04:38:40,730 --> 04:38:38,100
anything like that and as I registered

6513
04:38:43,250 --> 04:38:40,740
oh my God like I'm seeing this

6514
04:38:45,769 --> 04:38:43,260
um it this sense of calm came over me

6515
04:38:47,510 --> 04:38:45,779
which I couldn't explain because

6516
04:38:49,970 --> 04:38:47,520
um you know it was a startling moment

6517
04:38:51,529 --> 04:38:49,980
and yet I felt a kind of euphoria you

6518
04:38:52,490 --> 04:38:51,539
know like this everything is okay type

6519
04:38:55,310 --> 04:38:52,500
of thing

6520
04:38:57,470 --> 04:38:55,320
and uh I also had a sense that it was so

6521
04:38:59,090 --> 04:38:57,480
close to the ground that if I had a ball

6522
04:39:00,709 --> 04:38:59,100
like I could throw and hit it now I

6523
04:39:02,689 --> 04:39:00,719
think that's probably an exaggeration

6524
04:39:05,230 --> 04:39:02,699
but you know it was close enough it was

6525
04:39:07,429 --> 04:39:05,240
so low that it was a bit overwhelming

6526
04:39:09,949 --> 04:39:07,439
and at about the same time I'm

6527
04:39:11,090 --> 04:39:09,959
registering all of this it slowly starts

6528
04:39:13,189 --> 04:39:11,100
to turn

6529
04:39:15,529 --> 04:39:13,199
um and it's doing what I think is going

6530
04:39:17,570 --> 04:39:15,539
to do like a 360 and I can see the

6531
04:39:20,029 --> 04:39:17,580
points of light moving but I realized

6532
04:39:22,730 --> 04:39:20,039
that as the the triangle was slowly

6533
04:39:24,349 --> 04:39:22,740
turning it was getting smaller and you

6534
04:39:26,750 --> 04:39:24,359
know I realized oh my goodness it's

6535
04:39:29,510 --> 04:39:26,760
actually picking up altitude and before

6536
04:39:31,490 --> 04:39:29,520
it could do a total 360 twist it just

6537
04:39:34,150 --> 04:39:31,500
like and it was away just it completely

6538
04:39:37,670 --> 04:39:34,160
disappeared into the night sky

6539
04:39:39,350 --> 04:39:37,680
and I I was just left dumbfounded

6540
04:39:41,630 --> 04:39:39,360
um and the interesting thing about it

6541
04:39:44,390 --> 04:39:41,640
was while that feeling of

6542
04:39:45,410 --> 04:39:44,400
um Euphoria and awe kind of lingered a

6543
04:39:47,630 --> 04:39:45,420
bit

6544
04:39:50,030 --> 04:39:47,640
um what came next was this feeling of

6545
04:39:52,070 --> 04:39:50,040
don't really tell anybody and not

6546
04:39:54,050 --> 04:39:52,080
because I was ashamed or it would be

6547
04:39:56,270 --> 04:39:54,060
weird I mean who knows how people read

6548
04:39:57,830 --> 04:39:56,280
respond but you know I just thought no

6549
04:39:59,690 --> 04:39:57,840
this kind of a feeling that said this

6550
04:40:01,368 --> 04:39:59,700
isn't for people right now I can't

6551
04:40:03,770 --> 04:40:01,378
explain it beyond that I didn't lose the

6552
04:40:06,110 --> 04:40:03,780
memory but it was always with me I just

6553
04:40:09,288 --> 04:40:06,120
didn't talk about it well fast forward

6554
04:40:10,730 --> 04:40:09,298
uh to 1998 or 1999 I've gone through

6555
04:40:13,130 --> 04:40:10,740
High School I've gone through college

6556
04:40:15,350 --> 04:40:13,140
I'm now um doing my Master's work in

6557
04:40:17,570 --> 04:40:15,360
western Michigan and I lived and I

6558
04:40:19,250 --> 04:40:17,580
worked in two different small towns and

6559
04:40:21,170 --> 04:40:19,260
one night as I was driving from where I

6560
04:40:25,310 --> 04:40:21,180
lived to where I worked I was listening

6561
04:40:27,230 --> 04:40:25,320
to a talk show on the radio and it was

6562
04:40:29,330 --> 04:40:27,240
um some kind of recounting of it was a

6563
04:40:31,910 --> 04:40:29,340
local station and a recounting of I

6564
04:40:35,090 --> 04:40:31,920
believe it was a State Trooper who had

6565
04:40:37,368 --> 04:40:35,100
reported in seeing a huge black triangle

6566
04:40:38,750 --> 04:40:37,378
over Western Michigan and that he

6567
04:40:41,390 --> 04:40:38,760
followed it I believe if I remember

6568
04:40:43,070 --> 04:40:41,400
correctly the FAA got involved in

6569
04:40:45,830 --> 04:40:43,080
tracking it and the weird thing about

6570
04:40:47,990 --> 04:40:45,840
that triangle was that while it sounded

6571
04:40:51,170 --> 04:40:48,000
as big as what I saw it disappeared

6572
04:40:53,208 --> 04:40:51,180
either over or in Lake Michigan and as I

6573
04:40:55,368 --> 04:40:53,218
heard this on you know public radio

6574
04:40:56,868 --> 04:40:55,378
being discussed something just felt like

6575
04:40:58,490 --> 04:40:56,878
it snapped and unlocked in me and said

6576
04:41:01,550 --> 04:40:58,500
oh my you know like that is exactly what

6577
04:41:03,110 --> 04:41:01,560
I saw as a kid and I also felt um this

6578
04:41:04,368 --> 04:41:03,120
may sound strange to say it this way but

6579
04:41:05,930 --> 04:41:04,378
I felt like I could finally talk about

6580
04:41:08,030 --> 04:41:05,940
it you know like

6581
04:41:10,250 --> 04:41:08,040
um I kind of had evidence now that I had

6582
04:41:11,990 --> 04:41:10,260
not made this up in my mind not that I

6583
04:41:13,970 --> 04:41:12,000
ever thought that I did but it was

6584
04:41:16,490 --> 04:41:13,980
somebody talking about experience that I

6585
04:41:18,230 --> 04:41:16,500
had had and I think part of that was you

6586
04:41:20,390 --> 04:41:18,240
know growing up in the culture that we

6587
04:41:22,610 --> 04:41:20,400
do we've always heard about whether in

6588
04:41:24,830 --> 04:41:22,620
science fiction or on TV like UFOs and

6589
04:41:26,090 --> 04:41:24,840
flying saucers and I admittedly you know

6590
04:41:28,490 --> 04:41:26,100
I have interest in that and I've had

6591
04:41:31,250 --> 04:41:28,500
interest in that most of my life but

6592
04:41:33,288 --> 04:41:31,260
UFOs to me were like discs right so to

6593
04:41:35,628 --> 04:41:33,298
see a triangle made zero sense to me in

6594
04:41:37,850 --> 04:41:35,638
1991 and maybe that was part of the

6595
04:41:40,670 --> 04:41:37,860
hesitancy of saying anything about it

6596
04:41:42,830 --> 04:41:40,680
until later but when I heard an officer

6597
04:41:44,628 --> 04:41:42,840
and an FAA report on the radio talking

6598
04:41:47,750 --> 04:41:44,638
about it seriously I think I was like

6599
04:41:49,910 --> 04:41:47,760
okay I can talk about it as well

6600
04:41:51,350 --> 04:41:49,920
um you know looking back on all of it

6601
04:41:53,030 --> 04:41:51,360
and I've had a couple of other

6602
04:41:55,490 --> 04:41:53,040
experiences gratefully with other people

6603
04:41:57,530 --> 04:41:55,500
around in public I don't think that

6604
04:41:59,150 --> 04:41:57,540
triangle was a military craft I I just

6605
04:42:02,090 --> 04:41:59,160
don't could I be wrong about that I

6606
04:42:05,208 --> 04:42:02,100
could but it just seemed so otherworldly

6607
04:42:09,470 --> 04:42:05,218
and I think we're reaching a point in

6608
04:42:11,628 --> 04:42:09,480
society where we are more willing kind

6609
04:42:13,368 --> 04:42:11,638
of broadly culturally to ask the

6610
04:42:16,010 --> 04:42:13,378
question what would it mean if we were

6611
04:42:18,708 --> 04:42:16,020
being visited by other uh intelligent

6612
04:42:22,010 --> 04:42:18,718
life forms that are not human and part

6613
04:42:23,750 --> 04:42:22,020
of me just thinks that that night was at

6614
04:42:26,090 --> 04:42:23,760
least a suggestion in the direction that

6615
04:42:27,410 --> 04:42:26,100
it's true my heart believes that it

6616
04:42:29,628 --> 04:42:27,420
really is

6617
04:42:31,430 --> 04:42:29,638
um uh anecdotal evidence that it's true

6618
04:42:33,890 --> 04:42:31,440
I've gone on in my life to actually

6619
04:42:35,990 --> 04:42:33,900
pursue a PhD in Religion and Ethics not

6620
04:42:37,490 --> 04:42:36,000
be because of the triangle but one of

6621
04:42:40,550 --> 04:42:37,500
the things that I'm now studying and

6622
04:42:44,150 --> 04:42:40,560
writing about are paranormal beliefs in

6623
04:42:47,208 --> 04:42:44,160
North America and how those are shaping

6624
04:42:49,010 --> 04:42:47,218
religious and ethical Concepts and so

6625
04:42:52,190 --> 04:42:49,020
I'm hoping to share my triangle story

6626
04:42:53,810 --> 04:42:52,200
and the new book that I'm writing and I

6627
04:42:56,270 --> 04:42:53,820
look forward to actually teaching your

6628
04:42:58,788 --> 04:42:56,280
book in a class at my University this

6629
04:43:01,430 --> 04:42:58,798
fall I hope all is well with you and all

6630
04:43:02,020 --> 04:43:01,440
your listeners and as we say now keep

6631
04:43:05,270 --> 04:43:02,030
looking up

6632
04:43:07,670 --> 04:43:05,280
[Music]

6633
04:43:10,070 --> 04:43:07,680
I have to start this off by telling you

6634
04:43:12,310 --> 04:43:10,080
that my wife Marsha Dale

6635
04:43:15,830 --> 04:43:12,320
is the biggest

6636
04:43:21,110 --> 04:43:15,840
X-Files unsolved mystery

6637
04:43:22,850 --> 04:43:21,120
uh Alien freak that you've ever seen as

6638
04:43:24,350 --> 04:43:22,860
a matter of fact I took her to Roswell a

6639
04:43:26,810 --> 04:43:24,360
couple years ago just because she's

6640
04:43:29,448 --> 04:43:26,820
always wanted to go there so

6641
04:43:31,070 --> 04:43:29,458
we were we were hanging out this was

6642
04:43:34,430 --> 04:43:31,080
about

6643
04:43:37,310 --> 04:43:34,440
I don't know somewhere in the 2010s

6644
04:43:39,910 --> 04:43:37,320
my son-in-law Michael was just my

6645
04:43:43,010 --> 04:43:39,920
daughter's boyfriend at the time

6646
04:43:45,050 --> 04:43:43,020
and I'll get back to him in a minute so

6647
04:43:48,170 --> 04:43:45,060
they weren't there it was

6648
04:43:51,530 --> 04:43:48,180
me and some of my kids in marksdale we

6649
04:43:54,170 --> 04:43:51,540
were hanging out and uh at the time my

6650
04:43:56,330 --> 04:43:54,180
mom uh was living right across the yard

6651
04:43:58,368 --> 04:43:56,340
from us like I had her house right next

6652
04:44:01,788 --> 04:43:58,378
to our house

6653
04:44:05,090 --> 04:44:01,798
and uh we were out there hanging out and

6654
04:44:06,288 --> 04:44:05,100
I I had gone the to Mom's house for some

6655
04:44:07,850 --> 04:44:06,298
reason

6656
04:44:10,310 --> 04:44:07,860
and uh

6657
04:44:11,930 --> 04:44:10,320
as I was walking back from Mom's house

6658
04:44:15,410 --> 04:44:11,940
to our house

6659
04:44:19,850 --> 04:44:15,420
I just looked up and uh

6660
04:44:20,890 --> 04:44:19,860
there was a giant black triangle in the

6661
04:44:24,890 --> 04:44:20,900
sky

6662
04:44:28,788 --> 04:44:24,900
and uh it was just kind of cruising

6663
04:44:32,208 --> 04:44:28,798
slowly and silently over the house

6664
04:44:34,788 --> 04:44:32,218
and when I say a giant black triangle I

6665
04:44:37,010 --> 04:44:34,798
mean like it covered up most of the sky

6666
04:44:38,390 --> 04:44:37,020
and it didn't make a sound

6667
04:44:41,090 --> 04:44:38,400
and uh

6668
04:44:44,270 --> 04:44:41,100
I to this day keep give a crap if

6669
04:44:46,850 --> 04:44:44,280
anybody believes it or not but because I

6670
04:44:49,128 --> 04:44:46,860
saw it and I had been drinking but I

6671
04:44:52,010 --> 04:44:49,138
hadn't been drinking that much

6672
04:44:54,350 --> 04:44:52,020
so I knew that Marsha Dale

6673
04:44:58,430 --> 04:44:54,360
like it was it would mean a lot to her

6674
04:45:00,590 --> 04:44:58,440
to see it so I hauled ass in the house

6675
04:45:03,590 --> 04:45:00,600
and I got her up

6676
04:45:06,410 --> 04:45:03,600
uh got her outside and it was gone like

6677
04:45:09,110 --> 04:45:06,420
it was gone and she was so bad I think

6678
04:45:12,530 --> 04:45:09,120
she still to this day mad at me we'll

6679
04:45:14,448 --> 04:45:12,540
we'll hear from her so now I told you

6680
04:45:17,750 --> 04:45:14,458
about my son-in-law Michael

6681
04:45:21,470 --> 04:45:17,760
him and uh Brittany my daughter was on a

6682
04:45:23,448 --> 04:45:21,480
date uh Michael and B knuckle finally

6683
04:45:26,270 --> 04:45:23,458
showed back up at the house

6684
04:45:29,930 --> 04:45:26,280
and uh Michael was sitting there all

6685
04:45:32,868 --> 04:45:29,940
kind of quiet and uh I had not brought

6686
04:45:35,570 --> 04:45:32,878
this up because you know we were still

6687
04:45:37,128 --> 04:45:35,580
kind of I was still kind of almost in

6688
04:45:38,990 --> 04:45:37,138
shock at what a team but I hadn't

6689
04:45:41,448 --> 04:45:39,000
brought it up and Michael's sitting

6690
04:45:43,670 --> 04:45:41,458
there all quiet and then he's like uh he

6691
04:45:45,470 --> 04:45:43,680
asked me if I believed in UFOs just out

6692
04:45:48,230 --> 04:45:45,480
of the blue I was kind of like what and

6693
04:45:49,910 --> 04:45:48,240
he so he proceeded to tell me that as

6694
04:45:52,010 --> 04:45:49,920
they were driving the back ropes over

6695
04:45:56,330 --> 04:45:52,020
here that guess what

6696
04:45:57,830 --> 04:45:56,340
they saw a giant black triangle triangle

6697
04:46:00,770 --> 04:45:57,840
in the sky

6698
04:46:03,230 --> 04:46:00,780
and uh he didn't really know what to

6699
04:46:04,970 --> 04:46:03,240
think about it or do and so then I told

6700
04:46:07,910 --> 04:46:04,980
him that well it flew right here over

6701
04:46:10,368 --> 04:46:07,920
the house because I saw it and so take

6702
04:46:14,510 --> 04:46:10,378
it for what it is and that's my one and

6703
04:46:16,070 --> 04:46:14,520
only UFO story and uh I call it a UFO

6704
04:46:18,410 --> 04:46:16,080
because I feel like it was probably just

6705
04:46:20,330 --> 04:46:18,420
some kind of a some kind of a jet I've

6706
04:46:22,128 --> 04:46:20,340
been in the Air Force for a long time or

6707
04:46:25,670 --> 04:46:22,138
I was in the Air Force for a long time

6708
04:46:28,730 --> 04:46:25,680
so there's nothing that we uh I don't uh

6709
04:46:29,868 --> 04:46:28,740
I don't put anything beyond our

6710
04:46:32,708 --> 04:46:29,878
capabilities

6711
04:46:37,190 --> 04:46:32,718
but I'm gonna tell you it was a giant

6712
04:46:41,628 --> 04:46:37,200
black silent triangle that I could make

6713
04:46:45,110 --> 04:46:41,638
out and it was kind of just the the dusk

6714
04:46:46,128 --> 04:46:45,120
and uh it didn't make a sound and it was

6715
04:46:50,090 --> 04:46:46,138
huge

6716
04:46:51,770 --> 04:46:50,100
so thank that for what it is and and now

6717
04:46:53,868 --> 04:46:51,780
let's hear Marx Adele's side of the

6718
04:46:55,788 --> 04:46:53,878
story so I'm gonna tell the tale about

6719
04:47:00,368 --> 04:46:55,798
the triangle UFO babe what's your

6720
04:47:05,990 --> 04:47:03,350
we're out sitting on the porch drinking

6721
04:47:07,610 --> 04:47:06,000
of course I had to go to the bathroom

6722
04:47:09,708 --> 04:47:07,620
I was going to the bathroom and Jimmy

6723
04:47:11,990 --> 04:47:09,718
runs into the house

6724
04:47:14,510 --> 04:47:12,000
it's like oh sure Marsha come out here

6725
04:47:16,730 --> 04:47:14,520
you gotta look at this of course I was

6726
04:47:19,190 --> 04:47:16,740
in the middle of going and then when I

6727
04:47:21,948 --> 04:47:19,200
go out there it was damn gone I was just

6728
04:47:25,310 --> 04:47:21,958
like so disappointed be all right baby

6729
04:47:30,170 --> 04:47:25,320
you'll see another one someday

6730
04:47:30,180 --> 04:47:32,830
yes

6731
04:47:37,610 --> 04:47:35,750
hey what's up guys Dennis here I just

6732
04:47:39,410 --> 04:47:37,620
wanted to share my story with you guys

6733
04:47:42,530 --> 04:47:39,420
and hopefully someone out there

6734
04:47:46,010 --> 04:47:42,540
resonates with my story and can share an

6735
04:47:47,930 --> 04:47:46,020
experience that they had that is similar

6736
04:47:50,990 --> 04:47:47,940
to what I'm you know about to tell you

6737
04:47:54,050 --> 04:47:51,000
guys so basically this happened to me

6738
04:47:57,470 --> 04:47:54,060
back in 2007 it was in the middle of

6739
04:48:00,230 --> 04:47:57,480
summer I was at Ice House Reservoir in

6740
04:48:03,288 --> 04:48:00,240
California and it was me and my three

6741
04:48:06,708 --> 04:48:03,298
friends we drove up in my Toyota Prius

6742
04:48:08,090 --> 04:48:06,718
up this little mountain and uh up this

6743
04:48:11,150 --> 04:48:08,100
mountain there was like this little Lake

6744
04:48:12,708 --> 04:48:11,160
up there and it was clear skies when we

6745
04:48:13,850 --> 04:48:12,718
got there but it was in the middle of

6746
04:48:16,970 --> 04:48:13,860
the night it was probably like midnight

6747
04:48:19,730 --> 04:48:16,980
or something it was dark okay and there

6748
04:48:24,230 --> 04:48:19,740
was one other person that was up there

6749
04:48:26,030 --> 04:48:24,240
he was across the lake and you can see a

6750
04:48:27,230 --> 04:48:26,040
campfire so there wasn't any other

6751
04:48:29,150 --> 04:48:27,240
person that we knew that was up there

6752
04:48:31,850 --> 04:48:29,160
besides my three friends and this other

6753
04:48:33,830 --> 04:48:31,860
person and it was really quiet it was

6754
04:48:35,930 --> 04:48:33,840
really quiet you can hear the heartbeat

6755
04:48:37,490 --> 04:48:35,940
though the wind was calm it was just

6756
04:48:39,050 --> 04:48:37,500
really quiet you can hear a whisper

6757
04:48:40,970 --> 04:48:39,060
basically you can whisper you can hear

6758
04:48:43,610 --> 04:48:40,980
each other and

6759
04:48:46,368 --> 04:48:43,620
um on this particular night

6760
04:48:49,490 --> 04:48:46,378
when my friends and I looked over the

6761
04:48:51,948 --> 04:48:49,500
horizon we saw a star and you know

6762
04:48:54,288 --> 04:48:51,958
that's common stars are common in the

6763
04:48:57,550 --> 04:48:54,298
sky but these stars were bright like

6764
04:49:00,590 --> 04:48:57,560
they like almost like a planet bright

6765
04:49:01,850 --> 04:49:00,600
and there was three of them that were

6766
04:49:02,990 --> 04:49:01,860
visible but one of them

6767
04:49:04,310 --> 04:49:03,000
[Music]

6768
04:49:07,190 --> 04:49:04,320
um

6769
04:49:08,410 --> 04:49:07,200
was brighter than the most

6770
04:49:11,570 --> 04:49:08,420
but

6771
04:49:14,868 --> 04:49:11,580
we we stared at the star for some time

6772
04:49:17,030 --> 04:49:14,878
and my friends and I were like hey do

6773
04:49:20,208 --> 04:49:17,040
you see this light or star moving in the

6774
04:49:21,948 --> 04:49:20,218
sky like it was moving up and down and

6775
04:49:23,750 --> 04:49:21,958
left and right like it was slowly moving

6776
04:49:26,448 --> 04:49:23,760
at first we just thought maybe it was a

6777
04:49:29,030 --> 04:49:26,458
satellite right and all of a sudden it

6778
04:49:31,128 --> 04:49:29,040
just started shifting from left

6779
04:49:33,230 --> 04:49:31,138
to right like it was drifting like

6780
04:49:34,970 --> 04:49:33,240
wasn't sure if it was a balloon but it

6781
04:49:39,110 --> 04:49:34,980
wasn't a balloon or a blimp there's no

6782
04:49:42,050 --> 04:49:39,120
way a blimp can move in you know in the

6783
04:49:47,150 --> 04:49:44,448
so we it wasn't a satellite there was no

6784
04:49:50,150 --> 04:49:47,160
way it was satellite so

6785
04:49:52,970 --> 04:49:50,160
about a minute later the light starts to

6786
04:49:54,708 --> 04:49:52,980
go down behind the Horizon like it

6787
04:49:56,990 --> 04:49:54,718
disappears Over the Horizon so we lost

6788
04:49:59,690 --> 04:49:57,000
sight of it but we're like interesting

6789
04:50:03,830 --> 04:49:59,700
what that was but about 10 seconds later

6790
04:50:06,708 --> 04:50:03,840
the light comes back and this time we

6791
04:50:08,750 --> 04:50:06,718
noticed that it was coming towards us

6792
04:50:10,850 --> 04:50:08,760
this little light was coming towards us

6793
04:50:13,550 --> 04:50:10,860
like it was moving towards us and it

6794
04:50:16,430 --> 04:50:13,560
gave me this Eerie sense of feeling like

6795
04:50:19,430 --> 04:50:16,440
it knew we were there like someone knew

6796
04:50:21,890 --> 04:50:19,440
we were there and it knew that we on the

6797
04:50:24,530 --> 04:50:21,900
mountain were aware of its presence so

6798
04:50:28,070 --> 04:50:24,540
it kind of made my hair stand up as it

6799
04:50:30,288 --> 04:50:28,080
started to fly towards us I should say I

6800
04:50:32,208 --> 04:50:30,298
guess and

6801
04:50:35,270 --> 04:50:32,218
all of a sudden

6802
04:50:36,890 --> 04:50:35,280
as it gets closer from The Horizon like

6803
04:50:39,170 --> 04:50:36,900
the far out there like way out there

6804
04:50:42,350 --> 04:50:39,180
like on the edge of the Horizon we can

6805
04:50:46,310 --> 04:50:42,360
see as it gets closer it starts just

6806
04:50:48,410 --> 04:50:46,320
like taking shape and

6807
04:50:51,530 --> 04:50:48,420
as it gets closer we can we see the

6808
04:50:54,770 --> 04:50:51,540
light disappear and all of a sudden this

6809
04:50:56,690 --> 04:50:54,780
up in the up in the sky this this shape

6810
04:51:00,708 --> 04:50:56,700
takes place and the shape was like a

6811
04:51:02,868 --> 04:51:00,718
triangle and it how it gets close to us

6812
04:51:05,330 --> 04:51:02,878
like it starts to fly directly over us

6813
04:51:07,910 --> 04:51:05,340
like of all places it flew it flew right

6814
04:51:12,110 --> 04:51:07,920
over us it wasn't a bird it wasn't a

6815
04:51:14,690 --> 04:51:12,120
kite it was like a [\h__\h] aircraft but

6816
04:51:17,690 --> 04:51:14,700
the funny thing is I shouldn't even say

6817
04:51:22,128 --> 04:51:17,700
this is funny it was quiet like it just

6818
04:51:24,230 --> 04:51:22,138
floated overhead no sound and just a red

6819
04:51:26,948 --> 04:51:24,240
blinking light at the tail just to make

6820
04:51:30,948 --> 04:51:26,958
it look like oh it's an aircraft really

6821
04:51:33,410 --> 04:51:30,958
you were a star that was like who knows

6822
04:51:37,250 --> 04:51:33,420
how many miles out way on the edge of

6823
04:51:39,650 --> 04:51:37,260
the Horizon like maybe 100 miles or so

6824
04:51:42,708 --> 04:51:39,660
but all of a sudden you fly over and

6825
04:51:45,170 --> 04:51:42,718
you're like oh I'm quiet there's no

6826
04:51:47,448 --> 04:51:45,180
sound so I thought that was really

6827
04:51:49,250 --> 04:51:47,458
interesting and

6828
04:51:50,868 --> 04:51:49,260
um we all looked at each other and we

6829
04:51:54,410 --> 04:51:50,878
were like uh

6830
04:51:56,750 --> 04:51:54,420
what the [\h__\h] though he just witness and

6831
04:51:59,150 --> 04:51:56,760
15 seconds later something must have

6832
04:52:00,470 --> 04:51:59,160
made a noise like for example you know

6833
04:52:02,868 --> 04:52:00,480
on the freeway there's like the metal

6834
04:52:04,490 --> 04:52:02,878
guard rail to prevent you from falling

6835
04:52:06,410 --> 04:52:04,500
off to the side or whatever

6836
04:52:08,208 --> 04:52:06,420
well sounded like someone took a rock

6837
04:52:10,430 --> 04:52:08,218
and just threw it on it and just made

6838
04:52:12,650 --> 04:52:10,440
this Ripple noise or like

6839
04:52:16,670 --> 04:52:12,660
we are not alone so we got in the car

6840
04:52:19,430 --> 04:52:16,680
and we left so I I think that after that

6841
04:52:22,310 --> 04:52:19,440
night after that experience it made me

6842
04:52:24,650 --> 04:52:22,320
believe that aliens are real and after

6843
04:52:27,770 --> 04:52:24,660
now that the government is coming out

6844
04:52:29,208 --> 04:52:27,780
with oh yeah aliens are real um yeah

6845
04:52:31,310 --> 04:52:29,218
they've been real you guys just have

6846
04:52:33,050 --> 04:52:31,320
been covering it up so I thought that

6847
04:52:35,270 --> 04:52:33,060
was a really strange experience that

6848
04:52:36,830 --> 04:52:35,280
night just to to see this aircraft

6849
04:52:39,890 --> 04:52:36,840
shaped like a triangle it's a black

6850
04:52:42,110 --> 04:52:39,900
aircraft shaped like a triangle had a

6851
04:52:44,868 --> 04:52:42,120
red light near the bottom on the back

6852
04:52:46,310 --> 04:52:44,878
there in the tail underneath maybe three

6853
04:52:49,128 --> 04:52:46,320
lights I can't remember but it was red

6854
04:52:51,948 --> 04:52:49,138
and it was triangle it was black and it

6855
04:52:53,750 --> 04:52:51,958
just flew overhead made no noise like

6856
04:52:56,930 --> 04:52:53,760
you know when a plane flies over any

6857
04:52:59,690 --> 04:52:56,940
aircraft flies over you can hear it we

6858
04:53:01,910 --> 04:52:59,700
didn't hear anything so

6859
04:53:03,708 --> 04:53:01,920
that was like one of those moments in

6860
04:53:06,708 --> 04:53:03,718
life where I will never forget my

6861
04:53:09,530 --> 04:53:06,718
friends still to this day swear that

6862
04:53:10,850 --> 04:53:09,540
what we saw was an alien aircraft and I

6863
04:53:12,590 --> 04:53:10,860
believe it was

6864
04:53:16,310 --> 04:53:12,600
and my friend still to this day can

6865
04:53:18,230 --> 04:53:16,320
vividly explain in detail what they saw

6866
04:53:20,570 --> 04:53:18,240
so I was the only one who seen it we

6867
04:53:23,570 --> 04:53:20,580
weren't drunk we weren't high but

6868
04:53:25,850 --> 04:53:23,580
another day recently probably like three

6869
04:53:28,670 --> 04:53:25,860
years ago here in Tacoma Washington I

6870
04:53:30,530 --> 04:53:28,680
was with my best friend and we looked up

6871
04:53:32,930 --> 04:53:30,540
in the sky we so happened to see this

6872
04:53:35,448 --> 04:53:32,940
green bright light like a like a flash

6873
04:53:38,390 --> 04:53:35,458
just like in just one concentrated air

6874
04:53:41,750 --> 04:53:38,400
just flash we thought a Transformer had

6875
04:53:43,448 --> 04:53:41,760
blown we thought maybe it was like

6876
04:53:46,310 --> 04:53:43,458
static electricity in the sky but

6877
04:53:49,128 --> 04:53:46,320
nothing nobody reported anything there

6878
04:53:52,550 --> 04:53:49,138
wasn't any explosions it was just a

6879
04:53:55,670 --> 04:53:52,560
bright green flash and it just

6880
04:53:57,830 --> 04:53:55,680
there was no noise it was just a light

6881
04:54:00,230 --> 04:53:57,840
there there was no way explaining it

6882
04:54:02,090 --> 04:54:00,240
there was an like

6883
04:54:03,948 --> 04:54:02,100
it was kind of hard to explain like if I

6884
04:54:05,690 --> 04:54:03,958
didn't capture if I captured a video it

6885
04:54:08,030 --> 04:54:05,700
would have been like wow great but you

6886
04:54:09,230 --> 04:54:08,040
know it happened so quick so me and my

6887
04:54:11,270 --> 04:54:09,240
best friend were like what the hell was

6888
04:54:13,850 --> 04:54:11,280
that light like we looked up on the news

6889
04:54:15,590 --> 04:54:13,860
we tried to think of rational

6890
04:54:17,510 --> 04:54:15,600
explanations of what it could have been

6891
04:54:19,670 --> 04:54:17,520
but

6892
04:54:20,990 --> 04:54:19,680
you know what I think it was aliens I

6893
04:54:23,750 --> 04:54:21,000
think they were traveling through

6894
04:54:27,230 --> 04:54:23,760
through the universe and they created

6895
04:54:30,050 --> 04:54:27,240
this like this light that was like so

6896
04:54:33,170 --> 04:54:30,060
bright and it was green it was a green

6897
04:54:34,788 --> 04:54:33,180
light like uh I'm not sure what kind of

6898
04:54:37,788 --> 04:54:34,798
green but it wasn't like a dark green it

6899
04:54:39,530 --> 04:54:37,798
was more like a light light green you

6900
04:54:41,570 --> 04:54:39,540
know and

6901
04:54:45,230 --> 04:54:41,580
um I thought it was a Transformer that

6902
04:54:46,550 --> 04:54:45,240
had blown and caused the uh electricity

6903
04:54:49,128 --> 04:54:46,560
to like

6904
04:54:51,288 --> 04:54:49,138
uh reflect in the sky or some [\h__\h] right

6905
04:54:53,570 --> 04:54:51,298
but that wasn't it

6906
04:54:56,510 --> 04:54:53,580
so there's a lot of occurrences in my

6907
04:54:59,030 --> 04:54:56,520
life that I've noticed

6908
04:55:01,490 --> 04:54:59,040
um that are just unexplainable

6909
04:55:02,930 --> 04:55:01,500
and in particular is that one that one

6910
04:55:05,750 --> 04:55:02,940
night when I was at the ice ice house

6911
04:55:08,270 --> 04:55:05,760
Reservoir so I've I've seen like

6912
04:55:10,430 --> 04:55:08,280
military aircrafts that look like that

6913
04:55:12,708 --> 04:55:10,440
that aircraft that I thought I saw that

6914
04:55:14,990 --> 04:55:12,718
night in California ice house it was the

6915
04:55:17,090 --> 04:55:15,000
same shape same triangle and I thought

6916
04:55:18,948 --> 04:55:17,100
it was a military aircraft but I was

6917
04:55:21,708 --> 04:55:18,958
like but aircrafts are supposed to

6918
04:55:24,650 --> 04:55:21,718
produce noise like they have propellers

6919
04:55:28,490 --> 04:55:24,660
of some type like either fuel or turbine

6920
04:55:29,930 --> 04:55:28,500
or some type of energy source to move

6921
04:55:32,390 --> 04:55:29,940
that aircraft and it's going to cause

6922
04:55:34,128 --> 04:55:32,400
some type of noise right at least from

6923
04:55:36,110 --> 04:55:34,138
my experience I've never heard of an

6924
04:55:39,170 --> 04:55:36,120
airplane fly overhead dead silent unless

6925
04:55:41,750 --> 04:55:39,180
it's gliding but that's what it sounded

6926
04:55:43,910 --> 04:55:41,760
like the sound but that's what it looked

6927
04:55:47,690 --> 04:55:43,920
like it was just gliding

6928
04:55:49,610 --> 04:55:47,700
gliding overhead a big triangle aircraft

6929
04:55:53,270 --> 04:55:49,620
we couldn't see it was just a silhouette

6930
04:55:56,990 --> 04:55:53,280
flying overhead and it made no noise I'm

6931
04:55:59,330 --> 04:55:57,000
so freaked out so like we're gonna put

6932
04:56:00,530 --> 04:55:59,340
this to rest UFOs are real there's no

6933
04:56:02,810 --> 04:56:00,540
doubt about it

6934
04:56:05,030 --> 04:56:02,820
there's no conspiracy theories anymore

6935
04:56:07,368 --> 04:56:05,040
there's too many evidence that's coming

6936
04:56:08,930 --> 04:56:07,378
up left and right and this is coming

6937
04:56:10,910 --> 04:56:08,940
from someone who's just a normal guy

6938
04:56:13,030 --> 04:56:10,920
like I haven't done my research I

6939
04:56:16,850 --> 04:56:13,040
haven't dug up any articles or anything

6940
04:56:18,590 --> 04:56:16,860
so if I'm saying it's real and the

6941
04:56:20,330 --> 04:56:18,600
government seems real I've seen some

6942
04:56:22,190 --> 04:56:20,340
[\h__\h] my friend sees some [\h__\h] other

6943
04:56:23,628 --> 04:56:22,200
people seen some [\h__\h] you've probably

6944
04:56:25,490 --> 04:56:23,638
seen some [\h__\h] you're probably typing

6945
04:56:27,590 --> 04:56:25,500
some [\h__\h] as I'm talking like I said

6946
04:56:31,788 --> 04:56:27,600
then it's real guys I don't know what

6947
04:56:34,610 --> 04:56:31,798
else to say keep your eyes in the sky

6948
04:56:37,430 --> 04:56:34,620
hi Ryan my name is Heather and I live in

6949
04:56:39,708 --> 04:56:37,440
the Dallas Texas area thank you so much

6950
04:56:41,510 --> 04:56:39,718
for considering me and allowing me to

6951
04:56:43,330 --> 04:56:41,520
share my experiences with you and your

6952
04:56:47,090 --> 04:56:43,340
listeners I'm somewhere in the skies

6953
04:56:49,368 --> 04:56:47,100
before I moved to Texas back in 1997 I

6954
04:56:52,070 --> 04:56:49,378
lived outside of Cleveland Ohio

6955
04:56:55,070 --> 04:56:52,080
I'm from a small town about 45 minutes

6956
04:56:58,550 --> 04:56:55,080
from Cleveland but I lived close to

6957
04:57:01,490 --> 04:56:58,560
downtown that year I had two UFO

6958
04:57:03,470 --> 04:57:01,500
experiences one the first one occurred

6959
04:57:06,110 --> 04:57:03,480
in Runaway Bay Jamaica

6960
04:57:09,650 --> 04:57:06,120
I had taken a short four day three night

6961
04:57:11,208 --> 04:57:09,660
weekend vacation 25 years ago today I

6962
04:57:13,910 --> 04:57:11,218
took a friend of mine who was in a

6963
04:57:16,190 --> 04:57:13,920
branch of the U.S military it was a

6964
04:57:18,530 --> 04:57:16,200
smaller Resort about an hour from Ocho

6965
04:57:21,590 --> 04:57:18,540
Rios the first day we met a British

6966
04:57:23,868 --> 04:57:21,600
couple our age so we piled around with

6967
04:57:27,470 --> 04:57:23,878
them all weekend on the second evening

6968
04:57:30,770 --> 04:57:27,480
we had something absolutely crazy happen

6969
04:57:32,510 --> 04:57:30,780
to us we found we had found a Cove the

6970
04:57:35,868 --> 04:57:32,520
night before on the edge of the resort

6971
04:57:37,850 --> 04:57:35,878
right on the beach that faced North we

6972
04:57:39,470 --> 04:57:37,860
could sit there and talk and laugh and

6973
04:57:43,190 --> 04:57:39,480
we didn't really have to worry about

6974
04:57:46,070 --> 04:57:43,200
disturbing anyone it was around 10 pm to

6975
04:57:49,368 --> 04:57:46,080
11 p.m on that evening it was a very

6976
04:57:51,410 --> 04:57:49,378
clear sky bright moon an unimpeded view

6977
04:57:54,470 --> 04:57:51,420
of the sea melding into the north

6978
04:57:56,750 --> 04:57:54,480
Horizon it was gorgeous not being there

6979
04:57:59,030 --> 04:57:56,760
for very long we all noticed a very

6980
04:58:01,310 --> 04:57:59,040
bright very intense light coming from

6981
04:58:04,250 --> 04:58:01,320
the point of the Horizon where the water

6982
04:58:06,350 --> 04:58:04,260
meets the sky as it started to approach

6983
04:58:08,030 --> 04:58:06,360
us we all noticed that it was about 200

6984
04:58:10,190 --> 04:58:08,040
feet off the ground which didn't really

6985
04:58:13,128 --> 04:58:10,200
make any sense because it seemed too low

6986
04:58:15,770 --> 04:58:13,138
to be an airplane it also didn't display

6987
04:58:18,590 --> 04:58:15,780
any international flight lights that all

6988
04:58:21,170 --> 04:58:18,600
aircrafts display there was no flashing

6989
04:58:23,510 --> 04:58:21,180
white flashing green or flashing red

6990
04:58:26,510 --> 04:58:23,520
which really kind of stuck out to my

6991
04:58:29,930 --> 04:58:26,520
military friend as it came closer we all

6992
04:58:32,750 --> 04:58:29,940
saw very clearly a Black Metallic large

6993
04:58:35,150 --> 04:58:32,760
triangle with three white what I would

6994
04:58:38,570 --> 04:58:35,160
call recessed type lights in each corner

6995
04:58:41,090 --> 04:58:38,580
and a solid larger red light in the

6996
04:58:43,670 --> 04:58:41,100
center as it approached us and then went

6997
04:58:46,010 --> 04:58:43,680
over us we could see a waviness to the

6998
04:58:48,470 --> 04:58:46,020
bottom of the object I couldn't tell if

6999
04:58:50,690 --> 04:58:48,480
it was a texture or if it was the heat

7000
04:58:55,070 --> 04:58:50,700
coming off the object but it just seemed

7001
04:58:57,410 --> 04:58:55,080
really smooth and metallic black no

7002
04:58:59,810 --> 04:58:57,420
rivets anywhere it didn't seem like

7003
04:59:04,128 --> 04:58:59,820
something that was manufactured by

7004
04:59:08,810 --> 04:59:04,138
humans and as we watched the object flew

7005
04:59:11,390 --> 04:59:08,820
over us and made no noise whatsoever we

7006
04:59:14,390 --> 04:59:11,400
all noticed at the same time that the

7007
04:59:16,970 --> 04:59:14,400
low tide waves the gentle waves lapping

7008
04:59:19,610 --> 04:59:16,980
up onto the beach were a lot louder than

7009
04:59:22,070 --> 04:59:19,620
the object that was going over us we all

7010
04:59:23,690 --> 04:59:22,080
turned and watched it head to the toward

7011
04:59:25,390 --> 04:59:23,700
the foothills of the Blue Mountains

7012
04:59:27,708 --> 04:59:25,400
which were behind us

7013
04:59:29,390 --> 04:59:27,718
and I think we all thought it was going

7014
04:59:31,430 --> 04:59:29,400
to fly off because we actually didn't

7015
04:59:34,310 --> 04:59:31,440
stay turned around for very long

7016
04:59:37,368 --> 04:59:34,320
watching it when we all turned to face

7017
04:59:40,310 --> 04:59:37,378
the ocean again within a minute there

7018
04:59:42,708 --> 04:59:40,320
was another very intense white light

7019
04:59:45,110 --> 04:59:42,718
coming from the same position as we saw

7020
04:59:47,570 --> 04:59:45,120
the first one and I think I was the one

7021
04:59:50,390 --> 04:59:47,580
that said I'm going to die if that is

7022
04:59:53,090 --> 04:59:50,400
another one and it was exactly the same

7023
04:59:56,208 --> 04:59:53,100
thing as the first black triangle 200

7024
04:59:59,030 --> 04:59:56,218
feet off the ground three white lights a

7025
05:00:01,610 --> 04:59:59,040
large Center Red One both were very low

7026
05:00:03,530 --> 05:00:01,620
within a minute of each other taking the

7027
05:00:06,590 --> 05:00:03,540
exact same path from the exact same

7028
05:00:09,650 --> 05:00:06,600
position from the north Horizon they

7029
05:00:12,170 --> 05:00:09,660
both passed us taking the same path in

7030
05:00:15,110 --> 05:00:12,180
front of those mountains not flying that

7031
05:00:16,910 --> 05:00:15,120
quickly we were shocked freaked out and

7032
05:00:19,430 --> 05:00:16,920
no we weren't smoking pot because we

7033
05:00:21,110 --> 05:00:19,440
were in Jamaica as the second joined

7034
05:00:23,448 --> 05:00:21,120
with the first one in the position it

7035
05:00:25,670 --> 05:00:23,458
was before we turned around we all

7036
05:00:28,330 --> 05:00:25,680
freaked out even more stunned that what

7037
05:00:30,708 --> 05:00:28,340
we were seeing there are two triangles

7038
05:00:33,230 --> 05:00:30,718
hovering in the background in front of

7039
05:00:35,448 --> 05:00:33,240
these mountains the British people were

7040
05:00:38,030 --> 05:00:35,458
joking about agent Mulder coming running

7041
05:00:40,850 --> 05:00:38,040
across the beach I guess the X-Files had

7042
05:00:43,788 --> 05:00:40,860
just aired in the UK these two triangles

7043
05:00:47,750 --> 05:00:43,798
met up in the sky which looked like

7044
05:00:50,330 --> 05:00:47,760
inches from each other from a distance

7045
05:00:52,930 --> 05:00:50,340
they sat there hovering for what I would

7046
05:00:55,670 --> 05:00:52,940
say was probably about 10 or 15 minutes

7047
05:00:57,770 --> 05:00:55,680
and it didn't make any noise still

7048
05:00:59,750 --> 05:00:57,780
there's just in the background hovering

7049
05:01:01,670 --> 05:00:59,760
in front of these mountains there's no

7050
05:01:04,250 --> 05:01:01,680
flashing lights nothing ever really

7051
05:01:06,230 --> 05:01:04,260
changed except they were fully hovering

7052
05:01:08,448 --> 05:01:06,240
and there was no way that we could tell

7053
05:01:11,390 --> 05:01:08,458
that they should be hovering and then

7054
05:01:13,970 --> 05:01:11,400
bam in a blink like a shot out of a gun

7055
05:01:17,930 --> 05:01:13,980
one went to the right one went to our

7056
05:01:20,390 --> 05:01:17,940
left and boom Gone Gone Forever there

7057
05:01:22,788 --> 05:01:20,400
was no Sonic Boom it was as silent as it

7058
05:01:25,190 --> 05:01:22,798
was when they approached us we were all

7059
05:01:27,590 --> 05:01:25,200
freaking out yelling with the two

7060
05:01:30,288 --> 05:01:27,600
strangers who just experienced the same

7061
05:01:32,510 --> 05:01:30,298
thing that we did never had such a thing

7062
05:01:34,850 --> 05:01:32,520
happen like this before I think we were

7063
05:01:38,208 --> 05:01:34,860
all completely shocked two soundless

7064
05:01:41,390 --> 05:01:38,218
black triangle looking very ufoy looking

7065
05:01:43,490 --> 05:01:41,400
objects that just flew over us and

7066
05:01:46,310 --> 05:01:43,500
hovered in the background and then in a

7067
05:01:48,288 --> 05:01:46,320
blink we're gone what I know now about

7068
05:01:50,990 --> 05:01:48,298
setup drugs I didn't find out out until

7069
05:01:52,550 --> 05:01:51,000
probably about 2002 after seeing a

7070
05:01:55,910 --> 05:01:52,560
History Channel show about Black

7071
05:01:57,948 --> 05:01:55,920
triangle UFOs these objects before us

7072
05:02:01,368 --> 05:01:57,958
came from probably the Cuban airspace

7073
05:02:04,010 --> 05:02:01,378
they were flying South toward Jamaica as

7074
05:02:07,310 --> 05:02:04,020
we stood on a Jamaican Beach I have to

7075
05:02:09,770 --> 05:02:07,320
assume since Cuba was to our North that

7076
05:02:13,310 --> 05:02:09,780
it passed over the ocean into a foreign

7077
05:02:15,830 --> 05:02:13,320
territory so I'm not sure back then what

7078
05:02:17,868 --> 05:02:15,840
the USA was up to or if this was U.S

7079
05:02:19,430 --> 05:02:17,878
Black Ops they certainly looked

7080
05:02:23,090 --> 05:02:19,440
different than the ones I have found

7081
05:02:27,050 --> 05:02:23,100
more recently videos pics anything on

7082
05:02:28,910 --> 05:02:27,060
the internet in modern times I was not a

7083
05:02:31,550 --> 05:02:28,920
computer computer person I didn't know

7084
05:02:34,490 --> 05:02:31,560
anyone that had a computer back in 1997

7085
05:02:37,310 --> 05:02:34,500
it was expensive there weren't a lot of

7086
05:02:39,890 --> 05:02:37,320
websites so it wasn't anything that I

7087
05:02:41,990 --> 05:02:39,900
really got into so there weren't any

7088
05:02:43,788 --> 05:02:42,000
type of Google searches or ways I could

7089
05:02:46,190 --> 05:02:43,798
figure out what had just happened to us

7090
05:02:47,628 --> 05:02:46,200
the world's internet was not at my

7091
05:02:49,090 --> 05:02:47,638
fingertips and neither was the world

7092
05:02:52,250 --> 05:02:49,100
information

7093
05:02:54,050 --> 05:02:52,260
my second experience happened September

7094
05:02:56,448 --> 05:02:54,060
of 1997.

7095
05:02:59,570 --> 05:02:56,458
I was dating a guy from a small town

7096
05:03:01,368 --> 05:02:59,580
called Worcester Ohio I lived about an

7097
05:03:03,350 --> 05:03:01,378
hour away so I would have to stay over

7098
05:03:04,490 --> 05:03:03,360
with him when I came out to hang out

7099
05:03:06,230 --> 05:03:04,500
with him

7100
05:03:08,810 --> 05:03:06,240
so I didn't have to travel back through

7101
05:03:11,690 --> 05:03:08,820
the dark through Amish Country on these

7102
05:03:13,788 --> 05:03:11,700
small windy roads so that evening we had

7103
05:03:15,948 --> 05:03:13,798
watched movies went to bed I don't think

7104
05:03:17,628 --> 05:03:15,958
it was very late and in the middle of

7105
05:03:19,190 --> 05:03:17,638
the night the scariest thing that has

7106
05:03:22,910 --> 05:03:19,200
ever happened to me

7107
05:03:24,288 --> 05:03:22,920
took place I can remember vividly and I

7108
05:03:26,570 --> 05:03:24,298
don't know if this has anything to do

7109
05:03:28,910 --> 05:03:26,580
with it the exact dream I was having

7110
05:03:31,430 --> 05:03:28,920
before I awoke I was dressed in

7111
05:03:33,708 --> 05:03:31,440
Victorian clothing a white frilly dress

7112
05:03:36,350 --> 05:03:33,718
sitting in the back of an open carriage

7113
05:03:39,288 --> 05:03:36,360
and what I know now was more than likely

7114
05:03:42,230 --> 05:03:39,298
St James Park in London I've been there

7115
05:03:44,570 --> 05:03:42,240
in more recent years as I rode along in

7116
05:03:47,770 --> 05:03:44,580
a horse-drawn carriage a man dressed

7117
05:03:51,350 --> 05:03:47,780
very smartly on top of a big black horse

7118
05:03:54,590 --> 05:03:51,360
with a top hat and tails on approached

7119
05:03:56,990 --> 05:03:54,600
us as our Carriage slowed he tipped his

7120
05:03:58,730 --> 05:03:57,000
hat and started to say something and

7121
05:04:01,430 --> 05:03:58,740
then I woke up to the biggest nightmare

7122
05:04:03,948 --> 05:04:01,440
of my life I was absolutely terrified

7123
05:04:07,430 --> 05:04:03,958
trying to gasp grasp what was happening

7124
05:04:10,788 --> 05:04:07,440
being blinded by a very intense very

7125
05:04:13,310 --> 05:04:10,798
sterile what I call white blue light it

7126
05:04:15,770 --> 05:04:13,320
filled every inch of the room the outer

7127
05:04:18,590 --> 05:04:15,780
areas of the room had a blue tinge but

7128
05:04:20,690 --> 05:04:18,600
the center of the room was so bright I

7129
05:04:23,448 --> 05:04:20,700
could see every detail

7130
05:04:26,150 --> 05:04:23,458
finding myself I was flipped on my back

7131
05:04:28,310 --> 05:04:26,160
and not the way I'd fallen asleep this

7132
05:04:31,850 --> 05:04:28,320
guy had a very crappy mattress that only

7133
05:04:34,610 --> 05:04:31,860
sat on a box spring the mattress sat on

7134
05:04:37,128 --> 05:04:34,620
the floor with no frame and the mattress

7135
05:04:39,830 --> 05:04:37,138
also had this awful Gully in the middle

7136
05:04:42,288 --> 05:04:39,840
of it that made you roll into it even if

7137
05:04:45,170 --> 05:04:42,298
you were on your back so you always had

7138
05:04:48,410 --> 05:04:45,180
to sleep on your side which was my left

7139
05:04:50,330 --> 05:04:48,420
when my eyes finally focused I saw three

7140
05:04:53,510 --> 05:04:50,340
beings in the room and then I discovered

7141
05:04:55,910 --> 05:04:53,520
that I was completely paralyzed and I

7142
05:04:59,570 --> 05:04:55,920
was trying to fight to move and or

7143
05:05:01,788 --> 05:04:59,580
scream and I couldn't do anything and it

7144
05:05:05,570 --> 05:05:01,798
felt like I was in a fight for my life

7145
05:05:07,610 --> 05:05:05,580
nothing was working it was like I was

7146
05:05:10,310 --> 05:05:07,620
trying to keep my eyes open but they

7147
05:05:12,170 --> 05:05:10,320
were being foresh shut they were there

7148
05:05:15,110 --> 05:05:12,180
were two beans at the foot of the bed

7149
05:05:17,810 --> 05:05:15,120
with what I would call two gray aliens

7150
05:05:20,628 --> 05:05:17,820
they seem to be smaller so I have to

7151
05:05:22,670 --> 05:05:20,638
assume that there's different species

7152
05:05:25,610 --> 05:05:22,680
Seas out there

7153
05:05:27,590 --> 05:05:25,620
and horror I watched as a smaller one in

7154
05:05:30,470 --> 05:05:27,600
front of me raised his left hand and

7155
05:05:33,770 --> 05:05:30,480
extended three very long skeleton-like

7156
05:05:36,830 --> 05:05:33,780
very thin fingers as I struggled to

7157
05:05:38,868 --> 05:05:36,840
access the rest of the room I saw a

7158
05:05:40,670 --> 05:05:38,878
larger one a couple inches taller than

7159
05:05:42,890 --> 05:05:40,680
the doorknob standing in the open

7160
05:05:46,850 --> 05:05:42,900
doorway of the bedroom

7161
05:05:50,810 --> 05:05:46,860
his very defined shadow of his very thin

7162
05:05:54,110 --> 05:05:50,820
body and this huge enormous head that

7163
05:05:56,810 --> 05:05:54,120
shadow washed onto the wall of now what

7164
05:05:58,730 --> 05:05:56,820
was lit with the white blue light but

7165
05:06:00,948 --> 05:05:58,740
the edges of the hallway I could see

7166
05:06:03,350 --> 05:06:00,958
were pitch blackness

7167
05:06:08,150 --> 05:06:03,360
Blackness was filling every corner

7168
05:06:10,310 --> 05:06:08,160
outside of that small area of the wall

7169
05:06:12,708 --> 05:06:10,320
I saw his head turned left and then

7170
05:06:15,110 --> 05:06:12,718
turned right and he's proceeded down the

7171
05:06:18,070 --> 05:06:15,120
right out of view down the hallway I

7172
05:06:21,350 --> 05:06:18,080
laid there struggling sweating profusely

7173
05:06:23,690 --> 05:06:21,360
crying hot messy tears trying to watch

7174
05:06:25,850 --> 05:06:23,700
what was happening seeing my ex laying

7175
05:06:28,970 --> 05:06:25,860
to my right motionless on his right side

7176
05:06:31,670 --> 05:06:28,980
I could hear and feel this humming that

7177
05:06:34,730 --> 05:06:31,680
filled the room and my rapid heartbeat

7178
05:06:37,670 --> 05:06:34,740
in my ears I finally thought I'm being

7179
05:06:40,730 --> 05:06:37,680
distracted by all of this but what is

7180
05:06:43,730 --> 05:06:40,740
happening visually so I just let my eyes

7181
05:06:46,010 --> 05:06:43,740
close and I tried to focus in on some

7182
05:06:48,708 --> 05:06:46,020
part of my body so I focused in on my

7183
05:06:50,150 --> 05:06:48,718
right hand which was paralyzed laying

7184
05:06:52,850 --> 05:06:50,160
next to me on the bed

7185
05:06:55,550 --> 05:06:52,860
if I cut if I can move a finger I kept

7186
05:06:57,590 --> 05:06:55,560
thinking maybe that'll help I need to

7187
05:07:00,470 --> 05:06:57,600
see if I can reach out and touch my

7188
05:07:02,628 --> 05:07:00,480
boyfriend I could see the picture of my

7189
05:07:04,310 --> 05:07:02,638
hand and my head perfectly and was

7190
05:07:06,770 --> 05:07:04,320
willing it to move and nothing was

7191
05:07:10,550 --> 05:07:06,780
working and finally in what seemed to be

7192
05:07:13,490 --> 05:07:10,560
hours of struggling covered in hot

7193
05:07:15,410 --> 05:07:13,500
sticky sweat which was probably only a

7194
05:07:17,690 --> 05:07:15,420
few minutes I finally was able to move

7195
05:07:20,930 --> 05:07:17,700
the pinky on my right hand a millimeter

7196
05:07:23,448 --> 05:07:20,940
and suddenly just like that it all

7197
05:07:25,970 --> 05:07:23,458
stopped like it was all sucked out of

7198
05:07:28,970 --> 05:07:25,980
the window boom it was gone no more

7199
05:07:31,910 --> 05:07:28,980
light no more figures no more humming

7200
05:07:34,730 --> 05:07:31,920
noises I could feel I was totally free

7201
05:07:36,890 --> 05:07:34,740
so I rolled onto my left side facing the

7202
05:07:40,208 --> 05:07:36,900
wall I was completely sobbing

7203
05:07:43,368 --> 05:07:40,218
uncontrollably when I heard three voices

7204
05:07:46,430 --> 05:07:43,378
which I've tried to imagine how I would

7205
05:07:48,650 --> 05:07:46,440
tell the story because it doesn't make

7206
05:07:50,690 --> 05:07:48,660
any sense to me and forever I kept

7207
05:07:51,650 --> 05:07:50,700
thinking that I only heard it in my left

7208
05:07:55,910 --> 05:07:51,660
ear

7209
05:07:58,128 --> 05:07:55,920
so it didn't seem like that was possible

7210
05:08:00,770 --> 05:07:58,138
but then I remembered I had the

7211
05:08:02,750 --> 05:08:00,780
sensation in the front left lobe of my

7212
05:08:07,010 --> 05:08:02,760
head that I can still kind of Imagine

7213
05:08:09,530 --> 05:08:07,020
when I think about it I know now that

7214
05:08:11,750 --> 05:08:09,540
this was something telepathic I heard a

7215
05:08:14,750 --> 05:08:11,760
language I have never heard before and

7216
05:08:16,788 --> 05:08:14,760
an octave too high for humans I had I

7217
05:08:19,610 --> 05:08:16,798
heard words being said that I didn't

7218
05:08:23,208 --> 05:08:19,620
understand until I heard simultaneously

7219
05:08:26,570 --> 05:08:23,218
the English translation said in the same

7220
05:08:28,250 --> 05:08:26,580
octave by the same three voices we will

7221
05:08:30,890 --> 05:08:28,260
be back for you

7222
05:08:33,770 --> 05:08:30,900
I laid there in the fetal position too

7223
05:08:36,050 --> 05:08:33,780
scared to move I sobbed for what seemed

7224
05:08:38,390 --> 05:08:36,060
like hours I was too scared to wake up

7225
05:08:40,850 --> 05:08:38,400
my boyfriend I was so afraid that he

7226
05:08:42,948 --> 05:08:40,860
would not believe me throw me out or

7227
05:08:44,868 --> 05:08:42,958
even call me crazy so I laid there

7228
05:08:47,690 --> 05:08:44,878
trying to figure out what just happened

7229
05:08:49,788 --> 05:08:47,700
to me knowing that I was wide awake this

7230
05:08:52,490 --> 05:08:49,798
entire time I tried to process

7231
05:08:53,570 --> 05:08:52,500
everything catalog cataloging every

7232
05:08:57,170 --> 05:08:53,580
moment

7233
05:09:00,050 --> 05:08:57,180
every detail as I laid shaking was going

7234
05:09:02,448 --> 05:09:00,060
through my head sobbing as quietly as I

7235
05:09:05,208 --> 05:09:02,458
could for what seemed like hours I was

7236
05:09:07,310 --> 05:09:05,218
trying so hard not to wake him up until

7237
05:09:10,430 --> 05:09:07,320
I watched Don filter through this very

7238
05:09:11,990 --> 05:09:10,440
same window Awakening this gray Ohio

7239
05:09:14,448 --> 05:09:12,000
morning

7240
05:09:17,750 --> 05:09:14,458
feeling very comforted that at least it

7241
05:09:19,368 --> 05:09:17,760
was Daylight and this event was over I

7242
05:09:21,590 --> 05:09:19,378
finally couldn't lay there any longer

7243
05:09:23,810 --> 05:09:21,600
he's still sleeping to my right so I

7244
05:09:25,910 --> 05:09:23,820
wiggled off the edge of the bed walked

7245
05:09:28,190 --> 05:09:25,920
through the apartment which is really

7246
05:09:31,368 --> 05:09:28,200
weird knowing that some creature just

7247
05:09:33,948 --> 05:09:31,378
walked these same steps that I'm taking

7248
05:09:36,110 --> 05:09:33,958
I found the front door and both locks

7249
05:09:39,350 --> 05:09:36,120
were still locked both things were in

7250
05:09:41,570 --> 05:09:39,360
the locked position I went outside and

7251
05:09:43,730 --> 05:09:41,580
as ratty concert T-shirt and boxer

7252
05:09:45,650 --> 05:09:43,740
shorts I appeared around the corner to

7253
05:09:47,750 --> 05:09:45,660
the right of the house there was an

7254
05:09:48,590 --> 05:09:47,760
abandoned Factory with an empty parking

7255
05:09:51,050 --> 05:09:48,600
lot

7256
05:09:52,430 --> 05:09:51,060
that was the side that the house of the

7257
05:09:55,128 --> 05:09:52,440
house that the light had gone through

7258
05:09:57,530 --> 05:09:55,138
the window there were no marks there

7259
05:10:00,110 --> 05:09:57,540
were no street lights nothing was there

7260
05:10:02,208 --> 05:10:00,120
I don't know what I expected to find and

7261
05:10:04,788 --> 05:10:02,218
still too scared to go inspect it closer

7262
05:10:07,910 --> 05:10:04,798
so I sat down on his front yard and

7263
05:10:09,590 --> 05:10:07,920
sobbed like a crazy person hoping it was

7264
05:10:12,350 --> 05:10:09,600
way too early for any of the neighbors

7265
05:10:14,990 --> 05:10:12,360
to see me it was I was sitting on Dewey

7266
05:10:17,690 --> 05:10:15,000
grass as this light mist came from the

7267
05:10:19,850 --> 05:10:17,700
morning all over me never have I done

7268
05:10:22,368 --> 05:10:19,860
anything like this before but it was

7269
05:10:24,530 --> 05:10:22,378
like I needed to see outside I didn't

7270
05:10:27,770 --> 05:10:24,540
want to wake him as weird as that sounds

7271
05:10:31,490 --> 05:10:27,780
this was a new relationship I liked this

7272
05:10:34,250 --> 05:10:31,500
guy Plus in a weird way the ground felt

7273
05:10:36,110 --> 05:10:34,260
kind of grounding to me I don't think I

7274
05:10:38,628 --> 05:10:36,120
was taken and maybe they weren't even

7275
05:10:41,330 --> 05:10:38,638
there for me I don't know I remember the

7276
05:10:44,510 --> 05:10:41,340
very next day as I went to leave and

7277
05:10:46,730 --> 05:10:44,520
it's very messy bachelor pad apartment I

7278
05:10:49,128 --> 05:10:46,740
saw a book sitting on a chair in the

7279
05:10:51,948 --> 05:10:49,138
corner that I'd never noticed before

7280
05:10:54,230 --> 05:10:51,958
being over at his place it was called

7281
05:10:57,050 --> 05:10:54,240
communion I didn't even know what that

7282
05:10:59,208 --> 05:10:57,060
was I never even heard of it but the

7283
05:11:01,430 --> 05:10:59,218
illustration sent ice cold chills up my

7284
05:11:03,230 --> 05:11:01,440
spine I asked him motioning to the book

7285
05:11:05,628 --> 05:11:03,240
is this your book have you read this

7286
05:11:08,270 --> 05:11:05,638
book he said yeah you should read it

7287
05:11:10,490 --> 05:11:08,280
it's a great book hoping he would say

7288
05:11:13,190 --> 05:11:10,500
something like you'll never believe what

7289
05:11:15,350 --> 05:11:13,200
has happened to me which he didn't but

7290
05:11:17,628 --> 05:11:15,360
what he said has always stuck with me

7291
05:11:20,150 --> 05:11:17,638
since that moment as I motioned to the

7292
05:11:23,448 --> 05:11:20,160
book which I'm sure a very shocked look

7293
05:11:26,330 --> 05:11:23,458
on my face I said is anything weird ever

7294
05:11:28,788 --> 05:11:26,340
happened here before and then he said

7295
05:11:31,128 --> 05:11:28,798
you wouldn't be the first person to tell

7296
05:11:33,948 --> 05:11:31,138
me something weird has happened here I

7297
05:11:35,570 --> 05:11:33,958
was totally silent wanted to laugh but

7298
05:11:37,788 --> 05:11:35,580
wanted to cry and I didn't even know

7299
05:11:40,368 --> 05:11:37,798
what to say so I left

7300
05:11:41,868 --> 05:11:40,378
then my third experience happened way

7301
05:11:46,250 --> 05:11:41,878
more recently

7302
05:11:50,570 --> 05:11:46,260
I had moved to Texas in 1998 and I live

7303
05:11:54,350 --> 05:11:50,580
in the Dallas area since about 12 years

7304
05:11:56,570 --> 05:11:54,360
ago I had yet another experience but

7305
05:11:59,448 --> 05:11:56,580
this one was in my backyard this is like

7306
05:12:02,270 --> 05:11:59,458
number three my husband and I had been

7307
05:12:04,010 --> 05:12:02,280
planting bulbs in her flower beds all

7308
05:12:08,330 --> 05:12:04,020
day and I remember the day because it

7309
05:12:10,368 --> 05:12:08,340
was Sunday October 23rd 2016. around 6

7310
05:12:11,810 --> 05:12:10,378
PM it was the last day of the Texas

7311
05:12:14,150 --> 05:12:11,820
State Fair

7312
05:12:16,250 --> 05:12:14,160
so we had just finished a very long day

7313
05:12:17,448 --> 05:12:16,260
of working really hard in the yard and

7314
05:12:19,610 --> 05:12:17,458
we were going to hang out in our

7315
05:12:22,010 --> 05:12:19,620
backyard with our dogs when I heard my

7316
05:12:24,288 --> 05:12:22,020
husband say look at that weird drone

7317
05:12:26,090 --> 05:12:24,298
over the neighbor's house which took me

7318
05:12:28,310 --> 05:12:26,100
a few seconds to even understand what he

7319
05:12:30,410 --> 05:12:28,320
was saying and then he's kind of

7320
05:12:33,050 --> 05:12:30,420
pointing and looking toward the

7321
05:12:35,390 --> 05:12:33,060
neighbor's pecan tree so I was moving

7322
05:12:38,448 --> 05:12:35,400
around in my yard to try to peer around

7323
05:12:40,910 --> 05:12:38,458
this very tall 100 year old pecan tree

7324
05:12:44,390 --> 05:12:40,920
in their backyard and then I saw it

7325
05:12:46,190 --> 05:12:44,400
there was a large metallic gray very

7326
05:12:49,010 --> 05:12:46,200
dark gray what I would call

7327
05:12:51,350 --> 05:12:49,020
shield-shaped crafts hovering above my

7328
05:12:53,868 --> 05:12:51,360
neighbor's backyard I watched it

7329
05:12:57,050 --> 05:12:53,878
freaking out as it slowly moved from

7330
05:12:58,128 --> 05:12:57,060
their yard into my yard over my husband

7331
05:13:02,330 --> 05:12:58,138
and I

7332
05:13:05,448 --> 05:13:02,340
to then slowly moving over to our roof

7333
05:13:07,788 --> 05:13:05,458
slowly pivoted when it got to our roof

7334
05:13:10,550 --> 05:13:07,798
and it showed a curved space in the back

7335
05:13:12,650 --> 05:13:10,560
of the craft the area suddenly lit up

7336
05:13:15,350 --> 05:13:12,660
red and then fanned back and forth like

7337
05:13:17,990 --> 05:13:15,360
kit from Knight Rider it was segmented

7338
05:13:20,330 --> 05:13:18,000
it was a segmented light that moved from

7339
05:13:22,550 --> 05:13:20,340
each position left to right lighting

7340
05:13:24,708 --> 05:13:22,560
each one up red until it was solid red

7341
05:13:27,350 --> 05:13:24,718
all the way to the right and then it

7342
05:13:29,570 --> 05:13:27,360
would start back over to the left and

7343
05:13:31,730 --> 05:13:29,580
continue the sequence I started

7344
05:13:35,270 --> 05:13:31,740
screaming to my husband what is that

7345
05:13:36,890 --> 05:13:35,280
what that is that that is not a drone

7346
05:13:39,590 --> 05:13:36,900
what are you talking about that is not a

7347
05:13:41,090 --> 05:13:39,600
drone oh my God it's recording us from

7348
05:13:43,070 --> 05:13:41,100
the front it looked like a very small

7349
05:13:45,288 --> 05:13:43,080
version of the stuff bomber until it

7350
05:13:47,390 --> 05:13:45,298
pivoted my brain couldn't really make

7351
05:13:49,070 --> 05:13:47,400
out what shape it was except for shield

7352
05:13:51,470 --> 05:13:49,080
shade because that's the only thing I

7353
05:13:53,810 --> 05:13:51,480
could make sense of which I still have

7354
05:13:56,868 --> 05:13:53,820
never found to this day on the web no

7355
05:13:59,810 --> 05:13:56,878
sound no propellers probably about 50 or

7356
05:14:01,850 --> 05:13:59,820
75 feet off the ground if it's a drone

7357
05:14:03,590 --> 05:14:01,860
that's fine just a little creepy someone

7358
05:14:05,690 --> 05:14:03,600
in the the neighborhoods recording

7359
05:14:07,910 --> 05:14:05,700
people in their backyards just would

7360
05:14:09,650 --> 05:14:07,920
like to know what it was my husband and

7361
05:14:12,050 --> 05:14:09,660
I watched as it slowly moved from the

7362
05:14:14,510 --> 05:14:12,060
neighbor's giant pecan tree across the

7363
05:14:17,330 --> 05:14:14,520
backyard to our house which seemed like

7364
05:14:20,030 --> 05:14:17,340
it only took maybe a minute it was

7365
05:14:22,970 --> 05:14:20,040
moving so slowly and then it when it

7366
05:14:25,910 --> 05:14:22,980
moved over our roof line it seemed like

7367
05:14:29,090 --> 05:14:25,920
it barely cleared our Second Story home

7368
05:14:30,770 --> 05:14:29,100
roof line it smoke I guess you would

7369
05:14:33,410 --> 05:14:30,780
call it glided I don't know what the

7370
05:14:36,050 --> 05:14:33,420
best word would be but it went out of

7371
05:14:39,230 --> 05:14:36,060
view on the top of my house and the

7372
05:14:41,570 --> 05:14:39,240
house is so long and narrow but it's a

7373
05:14:44,390 --> 05:14:41,580
large house that it had to go over

7374
05:14:46,730 --> 05:14:44,400
several peaks of the roof so I thought

7375
05:14:49,070 --> 05:14:46,740
I'll get a much better view if I run to

7376
05:14:50,868 --> 05:14:49,080
the front yard so I booked it running as

7377
05:14:54,288 --> 05:14:50,878
fast as I could to the front yard which

7378
05:14:56,868 --> 05:14:54,298
is probably about 50 60 feet from the

7379
05:14:58,970 --> 05:14:56,878
back to the front I was expecting to see

7380
05:15:01,610 --> 05:14:58,980
it better from up there but when I got

7381
05:15:04,430 --> 05:15:01,620
up there to my surprise it was not there

7382
05:15:06,948 --> 05:15:04,440
at all I looked around quickly and then

7383
05:15:09,110 --> 05:15:06,958
turned toward the street and I'm still

7384
05:15:11,208 --> 05:15:09,120
not seeing it anywhere I even thought

7385
05:15:13,368 --> 05:15:11,218
maybe it hadn't even gotten to the front

7386
05:15:15,530 --> 05:15:13,378
yard or it went back to the back I

7387
05:15:16,850 --> 05:15:15,540
wasn't really quite sure didn't have a

7388
05:15:19,850 --> 05:15:16,860
phone to be able to text my husband

7389
05:15:23,330 --> 05:15:19,860
where it was and then I happened to look

7390
05:15:26,208 --> 05:15:23,340
down the side road beside us and about a

7391
05:15:29,170 --> 05:15:26,218
half mile down the road I saw it

7392
05:15:32,090 --> 05:15:29,180
I saw it move slowly

7393
05:15:35,090 --> 05:15:32,100
directly north of us and I watched it

7394
05:15:37,430 --> 05:15:35,100
for about 20 minutes from the front yard

7395
05:15:40,368 --> 05:15:37,440
and it just became this black dot on the

7396
05:15:43,190 --> 05:15:40,378
horizon backlit by a big developing

7397
05:15:46,430 --> 05:15:43,200
storm that was light gray that was

7398
05:15:48,708 --> 05:15:46,440
moving in I saw it bounce once and then

7399
05:15:51,350 --> 05:15:48,718
it shot straight up in the air and was

7400
05:15:53,868 --> 05:15:51,360
gone forever I observed Air Track at

7401
05:15:55,970 --> 05:15:53,878
traffic above it and below it that I'm

7402
05:15:58,788 --> 05:15:55,980
assuming we're Landing planes going into

7403
05:16:00,288 --> 05:15:58,798
DFW Airport I even called the

7404
05:16:02,150 --> 05:16:00,298
non-emergency number of the police

7405
05:16:05,208 --> 05:16:02,160
hoping that someone had called it in

7406
05:16:07,850 --> 05:16:05,218
they hadn't heard a word I called all

7407
05:16:10,788 --> 05:16:07,860
three local TV stations two of which

7408
05:16:12,890 --> 05:16:10,798
acted like I was a complete Nutter one

7409
05:16:15,410 --> 05:16:12,900
was nice enough to say hey if you hold

7410
05:16:18,050 --> 05:16:15,420
I'll call the airports he came back

7411
05:16:21,170 --> 05:16:18,060
about 10 or 15 minutes later and said

7412
05:16:23,510 --> 05:16:21,180
well neither DFW or Love Field showed

7413
05:16:25,550 --> 05:16:23,520
anything on radar and haven't had any

7414
05:16:28,430 --> 05:16:25,560
calls but that's a really weird story

7415
05:16:31,190 --> 05:16:28,440
and I was like you have no idea how

7416
05:16:33,590 --> 05:16:31,200
weird it was it made no noise when we

7417
05:16:36,470 --> 05:16:33,600
saw it there were no propellers I didn't

7418
05:16:38,628 --> 05:16:36,480
tell this guy that my second experience

7419
05:16:41,690 --> 05:16:38,638
I have tried to block out of my memory

7420
05:16:44,390 --> 05:16:41,700
for almost 25 years but I can't I think

7421
05:16:46,368 --> 05:16:44,400
about it I dream about it I dream that

7422
05:16:48,890 --> 05:16:46,378
I'm being sucked up in the air by my

7423
05:16:52,010 --> 05:16:48,900
back floating face down arms extended

7424
05:16:54,590 --> 05:16:52,020
Hands Extended screaming for my friends

7425
05:16:57,230 --> 05:16:54,600
to help me as they stare at me near the

7426
05:16:59,990 --> 05:16:57,240
ceiling I have tried to research this

7427
05:17:02,090 --> 05:17:00,000
experience as much as I possibly can I

7428
05:17:05,208 --> 05:17:02,100
have tried to forget about it I've tried

7429
05:17:08,090 --> 05:17:05,218
to make excuses for it but I know I was

7430
05:17:10,670 --> 05:17:08,100
wide awake I know what I saw I know what

7431
05:17:13,490 --> 05:17:10,680
I felt and I know what I heard until

7432
05:17:16,010 --> 05:17:13,500
recently I never told a soul not even my

7433
05:17:17,270 --> 05:17:16,020
ex not even my husband now know the

7434
05:17:20,090 --> 05:17:17,280
details

7435
05:17:21,830 --> 05:17:20,100
it just felt ridiculous I thought no one

7436
05:17:24,530 --> 05:17:21,840
would even believe me

7437
05:17:27,230 --> 05:17:24,540
with my ex he just we had just started

7438
05:17:29,270 --> 05:17:27,240
dating when this occurred I'm hoping

7439
05:17:31,910 --> 05:17:29,280
sharing my story will help others out

7440
05:17:34,970 --> 05:17:31,920
there I also hope maybe my night terrors

7441
05:17:38,208 --> 05:17:34,980
will end and most of all I also hope

7442
05:17:41,628 --> 05:17:38,218
that maybe one day the more people share

7443
05:17:43,490 --> 05:17:41,638
their experiences like this we maybe one

7444
05:17:45,708 --> 05:17:43,500
day we'll know what has happened to all

7445
05:17:48,050 --> 05:17:45,718
of us and the biggest one for me

7446
05:17:50,750 --> 05:17:48,060
personally maybe the day will come that

7447
05:17:52,970 --> 05:17:50,760
I no longer fear the night thank you so

7448
05:17:55,190 --> 05:17:52,980
much Ryan for allowing me to share my

7449
05:17:56,990 --> 05:17:55,200
experiences I truly appreciate you

7450
05:17:59,448 --> 05:17:57,000
considering me for somewhere in the

7451
05:18:01,490 --> 05:17:59,458
skies and I really hope this will help

7452
05:18:04,970 --> 05:18:01,500
other people who are dealing with the

7453
05:18:04,980 --> 05:18:10,570
foreign

7454
05:18:10,580 --> 05:18:14,288
[Music]

7455
05:18:19,310 --> 05:18:17,868
this is Osvaldo I'm calling from

7456
05:18:21,890 --> 05:18:19,320
Vancouver Canada

7457
05:18:23,208 --> 05:18:21,900
I have two sightings to share uh the

7458
05:18:27,470 --> 05:18:23,218
first one

7459
05:18:30,230 --> 05:18:27,480
I uh suppose yes it happened in 2005

7460
05:18:33,050 --> 05:18:30,240
when I was visiting El Salvador that's

7461
05:18:36,830 --> 05:18:33,060
where I'm from and in the months of June

7462
05:18:40,550 --> 05:18:36,840
July I was visiting my family

7463
05:18:41,750 --> 05:18:40,560
um and um at some point in the month of

7464
05:18:44,628 --> 05:18:41,760
July

7465
05:18:46,610 --> 05:18:44,638
I had rented out a hut

7466
05:18:48,910 --> 05:18:46,620
a very rustic

7467
05:18:53,330 --> 05:18:48,920
um place by the beach

7468
05:18:54,770 --> 05:18:53,340
in this portion of the beach is along uh

7469
05:18:57,110 --> 05:18:54,780
you know this the coastline that's

7470
05:19:01,730 --> 05:18:57,120
really kind of removed a bit isolated

7471
05:19:05,090 --> 05:19:01,740
from any sort of development or tourism

7472
05:19:08,868 --> 05:19:05,100
um it's um it's a beach that's uh

7473
05:19:11,750 --> 05:19:08,878
kind of populated by by local local

7474
05:19:12,470 --> 05:19:11,760
fishermen and their families and it's a

7475
05:19:15,288 --> 05:19:12,480
very

7476
05:19:16,670 --> 05:19:15,298
um rustic place off the beaten path I

7477
05:19:19,368 --> 05:19:16,680
suppose right

7478
05:19:21,590 --> 05:19:19,378
so this is back in 2005

7479
05:19:24,230 --> 05:19:21,600
um on the third night I believe actually

7480
05:19:26,208 --> 05:19:24,240
was the second night

7481
05:19:30,890 --> 05:19:26,218
um I had gotten into the habit of

7482
05:19:32,990 --> 05:19:30,900
pulling a chair out from my Hut and

7483
05:19:34,788 --> 05:19:33,000
dragging it over

7484
05:19:37,448 --> 05:19:34,798
to the beach

7485
05:19:41,288 --> 05:19:37,458
um when the tide was out usually

7486
05:19:43,550 --> 05:19:41,298
around eight or nine PM

7487
05:19:46,970 --> 05:19:43,560
I got into

7488
05:19:48,948 --> 05:19:46,980
you know stargazing mode right which was

7489
05:19:50,930 --> 05:19:48,958
so much fun because it was such a

7490
05:19:55,010 --> 05:19:50,940
beautiful place

7491
05:19:59,030 --> 05:19:55,020
um that night it was a starry night

7492
05:20:01,010 --> 05:19:59,040
um no you know cloud cover barely any

7493
05:20:02,750 --> 05:20:01,020
whatsoever right

7494
05:20:07,128 --> 05:20:02,760
and

7495
05:20:10,490 --> 05:20:07,138
I was just really serenely looking

7496
05:20:13,070 --> 05:20:10,500
up at the sky into the Horizon it was

7497
05:20:13,910 --> 05:20:13,080
really dark by then

7498
05:20:16,128 --> 05:20:13,920
um

7499
05:20:19,430 --> 05:20:16,138
and the sky is just full of stars and

7500
05:20:20,570 --> 05:20:19,440
all of a sudden I see this light that it

7501
05:20:22,310 --> 05:20:20,580
kinda

7502
05:20:24,288 --> 05:20:22,320
it kind of

7503
05:20:25,490 --> 05:20:24,298
the light became brighter like it

7504
05:20:26,930 --> 05:20:25,500
intensified

7505
05:20:30,830 --> 05:20:26,940
[Music]

7506
05:20:35,930 --> 05:20:30,840
um and as it became brighter really

7507
05:20:38,750 --> 05:20:35,940
quickly just started to shoot down as if

7508
05:20:41,690 --> 05:20:38,760
it was gonna crash into the ocean

7509
05:20:44,868 --> 05:20:41,700
and but all of a sudden it made this

7510
05:20:47,330 --> 05:20:44,878
like 45 degree angle upward

7511
05:20:49,070 --> 05:20:47,340
and as it did that

7512
05:20:52,910 --> 05:20:49,080
um it made this

7513
05:20:55,310 --> 05:20:52,920
flash of lightning kind of like you know

7514
05:20:57,470 --> 05:20:55,320
in Star Trek when

7515
05:20:59,570 --> 05:20:57,480
the ships go into warp speed and they

7516
05:21:02,868 --> 05:20:59,580
create this uh lightning at the end

7517
05:21:04,128 --> 05:21:02,878
that's that's the closest I can describe

7518
05:21:06,170 --> 05:21:04,138
what I saw

7519
05:21:09,650 --> 05:21:06,180
there you go that's my

7520
05:21:12,830 --> 05:21:09,660
popular culture reference for any

7521
05:21:14,690 --> 05:21:12,840
Trekkie fans out there anyway but um the

7522
05:21:17,628 --> 05:21:14,700
whole thing was about three or like four

7523
05:21:19,730 --> 05:21:17,638
seconds and the entire like you know it

7524
05:21:21,770 --> 05:21:19,740
had this really accelerated movement to

7525
05:21:24,050 --> 05:21:21,780
it like

7526
05:21:26,570 --> 05:21:24,060
um what was this thing I really don't

7527
05:21:29,510 --> 05:21:26,580
know other than a UFO um this is again

7528
05:21:31,850 --> 05:21:29,520
2005 there was no you know in a country

7529
05:21:34,550 --> 05:21:31,860
like El Salvador like our military like

7530
05:21:36,708 --> 05:21:34,560
doesn't have didn't have anything like

7531
05:21:39,650 --> 05:21:36,718
drone technology even back then I don't

7532
05:21:42,050 --> 05:21:39,660
know if like commercial drone technology

7533
05:21:45,288 --> 05:21:42,060
technology was available back then

7534
05:21:47,030 --> 05:21:45,298
but you know it's a poor country so our

7535
05:21:48,050 --> 05:21:47,040
military wouldn't have that kind of

7536
05:21:50,570 --> 05:21:48,060
Technology

7537
05:21:52,128 --> 05:21:50,580
but the movement it made it was just

7538
05:21:55,310 --> 05:21:52,138
crazy fast

7539
05:21:57,890 --> 05:21:55,320
like all in the same speed it was not a

7540
05:22:00,830 --> 05:21:57,900
meteorite uh this thing did not burn up

7541
05:22:03,230 --> 05:22:00,840
because you know started to shoot down

7542
05:22:05,810 --> 05:22:03,240
in a very irregular manner like you had

7543
05:22:08,150 --> 05:22:05,820
this irregular uh jerky movement but

7544
05:22:10,490 --> 05:22:08,160
really quick and it just showed up and

7545
05:22:12,650 --> 05:22:10,500
it did this you know flash of lightning

7546
05:22:14,990 --> 05:22:12,660
uh that's not a mirror right they don't

7547
05:22:17,690 --> 05:22:15,000
they don't behave that way uh it was not

7548
05:22:21,650 --> 05:22:17,700
a satellite again a plane totally

7549
05:22:23,030 --> 05:22:21,660
discount that uh and totally not a

7550
05:22:25,190 --> 05:22:23,040
fisherman boat

7551
05:22:26,150 --> 05:22:25,200
um so I don't know what the hell that

7552
05:22:31,310 --> 05:22:26,160
was

7553
05:22:32,510 --> 05:22:31,320
you know it really if anything it felt

7554
05:22:38,390 --> 05:22:32,520
like

7555
05:22:39,770 --> 05:22:38,400
um because it was amazing and I just

7556
05:22:42,350 --> 05:22:39,780
went to bed

7557
05:22:44,750 --> 05:22:42,360
like with the knowledge that I had seen

7558
05:22:46,070 --> 05:22:44,760
something really amazing

7559
05:22:47,990 --> 05:22:46,080
you know

7560
05:22:51,050 --> 05:22:48,000
um and I put this experience on the

7561
05:22:53,270 --> 05:22:51,060
shelf for the longest time because I

7562
05:22:55,070 --> 05:22:53,280
mean as soon as it happened I look back

7563
05:22:57,230 --> 05:22:55,080
and there are no other Witnesses it was

7564
05:22:58,610 --> 05:22:57,240
just me on that beach and sure I could

7565
05:23:00,708 --> 05:22:58,620
have shared it with my family but I

7566
05:23:03,288 --> 05:23:00,718
chose not to back then because

7567
05:23:05,868 --> 05:23:03,298
like seriously you know El Salvador it's

7568
05:23:07,250 --> 05:23:05,878
a very christianized very Christian

7569
05:23:10,550 --> 05:23:07,260
country

7570
05:23:13,190 --> 05:23:10,560
and you know they would have taken my

7571
05:23:15,110 --> 05:23:13,200
story and just placed it on a loony bin

7572
05:23:16,970 --> 05:23:15,120
you know like hey man were you smoking

7573
05:23:20,810 --> 05:23:16,980
that night or something

7574
05:23:24,590 --> 05:23:20,820
but I let me tell you my mind was

7575
05:23:26,570 --> 05:23:24,600
totally lucid I was in a my state of

7576
05:23:28,730 --> 05:23:26,580
mind was just I was just very Serene

7577
05:23:30,948 --> 05:23:28,740
looking up at the stars and then and

7578
05:23:33,890 --> 05:23:30,958
then I see this

7579
05:23:35,990 --> 05:23:33,900
um you know before this incident before

7580
05:23:39,530 --> 05:23:36,000
before this sighting I

7581
05:23:41,390 --> 05:23:39,540
I was open to the topic of UFOs but I

7582
05:23:43,490 --> 05:23:41,400
was never really someone that would go

7583
05:23:44,750 --> 05:23:43,500
out and investigate it or really get

7584
05:23:45,410 --> 05:23:44,760
into it you know

7585
05:23:48,890 --> 05:23:45,420
um

7586
05:23:50,628 --> 05:23:48,900
so I again I put that story on the back

7587
05:23:54,470 --> 05:23:50,638
of my mind for the longest time until

7588
05:23:56,270 --> 05:23:54,480
last year uh in 2021 which is when I had

7589
05:23:57,830 --> 05:23:56,280
my second sighting

7590
05:23:59,510 --> 05:23:57,840
and um

7591
05:24:02,150 --> 05:23:59,520
second sighting

7592
05:24:03,190 --> 05:24:02,160
was in Vancouver Canada which is where I

7593
05:24:05,030 --> 05:24:03,200
live now

7594
05:24:07,490 --> 05:24:05,040
and

7595
05:24:09,350 --> 05:24:07,500
so let me paint the scene

7596
05:24:13,610 --> 05:24:09,360
um back then

7597
05:24:16,490 --> 05:24:13,620
uh and and in May of 2021

7598
05:24:18,350 --> 05:24:16,500
um it was around uh 10 minutes to

7599
05:24:19,730 --> 05:24:18,360
midnight

7600
05:24:22,310 --> 05:24:19,740
um our

7601
05:24:24,590 --> 05:24:22,320
um apartment is in this block building

7602
05:24:27,470 --> 05:24:24,600
and we're up on the third floor and we

7603
05:24:30,110 --> 05:24:27,480
have a bulky balcony that's south facing

7604
05:24:32,810 --> 05:24:30,120
and in front of us we have uh there's a

7605
05:24:35,448 --> 05:24:32,820
parking lot and uh and these really

7606
05:24:38,390 --> 05:24:35,458
beautiful tall maple trees right that

7607
05:24:42,650 --> 05:24:38,400
shoot up about I don't know anywhere

7608
05:24:44,690 --> 05:24:42,660
between 180 to 200 feet high maybe and

7609
05:24:46,850 --> 05:24:44,700
then you have a row a row of pine trees

7610
05:24:50,510 --> 05:24:46,860
next to them about six or seven of them

7611
05:24:53,030 --> 05:24:50,520
and they're smaller in height

7612
05:24:55,910 --> 05:24:53,040
um so I'm in my living room and all of a

7613
05:24:58,070 --> 05:24:55,920
sudden there is a power outage and I

7614
05:24:59,810 --> 05:24:58,080
think to myself oh we haven't had one of

7615
05:25:01,310 --> 05:24:59,820
those in a while you know it's that's

7616
05:25:03,170 --> 05:25:01,320
okay whatever

7617
05:25:05,270 --> 05:25:03,180
and the thing about me is that I'm a

7618
05:25:07,310 --> 05:25:05,280
night owl so I do stay up really late

7619
05:25:09,110 --> 05:25:07,320
and I was working most likely on

7620
05:25:10,910 --> 05:25:09,120
something and

7621
05:25:12,350 --> 05:25:10,920
um I go over to the kitchen and get a

7622
05:25:14,270 --> 05:25:12,360
glass of water and

7623
05:25:17,390 --> 05:25:14,280
then I tell myself why don't we just

7624
05:25:19,430 --> 05:25:17,400
step outside and gaze up at the stars um

7625
05:25:23,030 --> 05:25:19,440
you know there's less less light

7626
05:25:25,970 --> 05:25:23,040
pollution now that the lights are out in

7627
05:25:28,070 --> 05:25:25,980
our building I step outside and I look

7628
05:25:31,970 --> 05:25:28,080
over to the left and I look over to the

7629
05:25:34,610 --> 05:25:31,980
right and both uh rows of houses next to

7630
05:25:36,230 --> 05:25:34,620
our building are there later out except

7631
05:25:38,090 --> 05:25:36,240
for the building in front of us you know

7632
05:25:40,750 --> 05:25:38,100
which is like uh maybe like like a

7633
05:25:43,250 --> 05:25:40,760
six-story high building and also newer

7634
05:25:47,448 --> 05:25:43,260
and I thought okay so maybe it's just

7635
05:25:52,250 --> 05:25:47,458
like a partial like uh you know

7636
05:25:55,490 --> 05:25:52,260
um outage of our street block whatever

7637
05:25:58,310 --> 05:25:55,500
and uh you know not too long after I had

7638
05:25:59,090 --> 05:25:58,320
stepped out of out into the balcony

7639
05:26:04,070 --> 05:25:59,100
um

7640
05:26:06,830 --> 05:26:04,080
the sky and not too long after that

7641
05:26:08,628 --> 05:26:06,840
like maybe like a minute or so of

7642
05:26:12,830 --> 05:26:08,638
stopping outside I

7643
05:26:16,310 --> 05:26:12,840
I see these three dots of light uh there

7644
05:26:21,110 --> 05:26:16,320
were whitish yellowish in color

7645
05:26:23,330 --> 05:26:21,120
and all I saw was this three lights in a

7646
05:26:28,010 --> 05:26:23,340
triangle formation

7647
05:26:29,830 --> 05:26:28,020
just gliding across going south east

7648
05:26:31,250 --> 05:26:29,840
just on top of our building

7649
05:26:33,530 --> 05:26:31,260
[Music]

7650
05:26:34,850 --> 05:26:33,540
um just kind of maybe gliding along our

7651
05:26:38,448 --> 05:26:34,860
neighborhood

7652
05:26:41,570 --> 05:26:38,458
I don't know uh and it was just gliding

7653
05:26:42,610 --> 05:26:41,580
silently there was no noise to this

7654
05:26:44,330 --> 05:26:42,620
thing

7655
05:26:47,110 --> 05:26:44,340
and

7656
05:26:50,330 --> 05:26:47,120
um yeah I got really spooked out

7657
05:26:53,330 --> 05:26:50,340
uh I I was just mesmerized by this it

7658
05:26:54,890 --> 05:26:53,340
was just I mean what was this a triangle

7659
05:26:58,490 --> 05:26:54,900
UFO I don't know

7660
05:27:02,810 --> 05:26:58,500
uh it was hard to tell how big and how

7661
05:27:06,110 --> 05:27:02,820
high the lights were but I do know that

7662
05:27:08,570 --> 05:27:06,120
um that it went over those tall maple

7663
05:27:12,708 --> 05:27:08,580
trees that I described earlier

7664
05:27:15,530 --> 05:27:12,718
so it was going uh Southeast and it

7665
05:27:18,050 --> 05:27:15,540
disappeared over those tall tall trees

7666
05:27:20,030 --> 05:27:18,060
an entire thing again like three to four

7667
05:27:21,770 --> 05:27:20,040
seconds but I remember just being really

7668
05:27:23,990 --> 05:27:21,780
spooked out because

7669
05:27:26,330 --> 05:27:24,000
you're just a serious of

7670
05:27:29,930 --> 05:27:26,340
uh just a sequence of events in which

7671
05:27:32,030 --> 05:27:29,940
and how this happened you know

7672
05:27:35,390 --> 05:27:32,040
um like was this coincidence or

7673
05:27:37,190 --> 05:27:35,400
synchronicity right like was this

7674
05:27:40,128 --> 05:27:37,200
thing

7675
05:27:41,270 --> 05:27:40,138
that what what caused the power outage

7676
05:27:42,948 --> 05:27:41,280
in our building

7677
05:27:45,410 --> 05:27:42,958
and for the rest of the row of houses

7678
05:27:46,430 --> 05:27:45,420
next to our building like I don't know

7679
05:27:49,250 --> 05:27:46,440
um

7680
05:27:51,590 --> 05:27:49,260
so I still ask myself that and you know

7681
05:27:55,010 --> 05:27:51,600
I'm not a UFO investigator I didn't go

7682
05:27:57,770 --> 05:27:55,020
out the next day to like you know talk

7683
05:28:00,470 --> 05:27:57,780
to like the you know BC Hydro company

7684
05:28:02,570 --> 05:28:00,480
and like you know hey man what happened

7685
05:28:04,128 --> 05:28:02,580
last night what caused this power outage

7686
05:28:06,350 --> 05:28:04,138
in our block

7687
05:28:08,750 --> 05:28:06,360
like I had things to do whatever like

7688
05:28:11,390 --> 05:28:08,760
you know but it stayed in my mind I

7689
05:28:13,490 --> 05:28:11,400
remember you know as it happened I was

7690
05:28:17,810 --> 05:28:13,500
really scared I don't know why I mean

7691
05:28:19,010 --> 05:28:17,820
back then in starting in 2020 at the

7692
05:28:21,830 --> 05:28:19,020
beginning of the beginning of the

7693
05:28:24,350 --> 05:28:21,840
pandemic I for some reason really wanted

7694
05:28:27,170 --> 05:28:24,360
to go back to my first sighting and just

7695
05:28:28,730 --> 05:28:27,180
kind of investigate that uh the topic of

7696
05:28:31,368 --> 05:28:28,740
UFOs

7697
05:28:32,690 --> 05:28:31,378
um it became like a hobby for me like a

7698
05:28:36,470 --> 05:28:32,700
pandemic Hobby

7699
05:28:39,170 --> 05:28:36,480
and so maybe this was a projection of my

7700
05:28:41,150 --> 05:28:39,180
mind you know maybe I projected

7701
05:28:43,368 --> 05:28:41,160
something from old information and

7702
05:28:47,510 --> 05:28:43,378
research that I had done about the UFO

7703
05:28:49,310 --> 05:28:47,520
phenomenon uh so I don't know that's a

7704
05:28:50,590 --> 05:28:49,320
crazy Theory to think about but um

7705
05:28:53,030 --> 05:28:50,600
there's something about Consciousness

7706
05:28:55,730 --> 05:28:53,040
and how it affects people

7707
05:28:58,550 --> 05:28:55,740
um the way this one affected me meaning

7708
05:29:00,230 --> 05:28:58,560
the second one was that with all the

7709
05:29:01,550 --> 05:29:00,240
information that I had consumed about

7710
05:29:04,250 --> 05:29:01,560
UFOs

7711
05:29:05,930 --> 05:29:04,260
and the different literature that I had

7712
05:29:08,390 --> 05:29:05,940
read I

7713
05:29:11,868 --> 05:29:08,400
um I was just really spooked out

7714
05:29:13,430 --> 05:29:11,878
um and as it happened I remember I was

7715
05:29:16,670 --> 05:29:13,440
really scared standing on that balcony

7716
05:29:19,910 --> 05:29:16,680
and just kind of wanting to communicate

7717
05:29:21,110 --> 05:29:19,920
with it and just in my mind I was

7718
05:29:26,150 --> 05:29:21,120
saying

7719
05:29:29,270 --> 05:29:26,160
to myself or to it to stay stay because

7720
05:29:31,430 --> 05:29:29,280
I want to keep seeing more of it and uh

7721
05:29:33,470 --> 05:29:31,440
but it just kept gliding along

7722
05:29:34,850 --> 05:29:33,480
um it just went away over those tall

7723
05:29:37,430 --> 05:29:34,860
trees

7724
05:29:39,590 --> 05:29:37,440
it's hard to tell what that was

7725
05:29:41,090 --> 05:29:39,600
um maybe it was like uh you know the

7726
05:29:42,890 --> 05:29:41,100
size of an SUV

7727
05:29:44,960 --> 05:29:42,900
um like I couldn't really determine any

7728
05:29:46,128 --> 05:29:44,970
shape but again it was a triangle

7729
05:29:49,128 --> 05:29:46,138
[Music]

7730
05:29:52,070 --> 05:29:49,138
um information moving very slowly and

7731
05:29:54,050 --> 05:29:52,080
silently but you know come on like close

7732
05:29:55,788 --> 05:29:54,060
to midnight what's this doing what's

7733
05:29:58,550 --> 05:29:55,798
this thing doing like flying over our

7734
05:30:01,190 --> 05:29:58,560
neighborhood at uh late late that night

7735
05:30:03,050 --> 05:30:01,200
so I got really scared by that

7736
05:30:06,410 --> 05:30:03,060
um and the next day I just had to like

7737
05:30:09,110 --> 05:30:06,420
tell my partner about it like yeah uh

7738
05:30:11,570 --> 05:30:09,120
anyway I reported it to move on and

7739
05:30:15,288 --> 05:30:11,580
other places but um

7740
05:30:17,570 --> 05:30:15,298
yeah um you know overall I think the

7741
05:30:20,390 --> 05:30:17,580
first one was just astounding and the

7742
05:30:23,390 --> 05:30:20,400
second one really it was there was

7743
05:30:26,260 --> 05:30:23,400
something palpable there and how it made

7744
05:30:27,470 --> 05:30:26,270
me feel I was basically afraid of it

7745
05:30:28,430 --> 05:30:27,480
[Music]

7746
05:30:29,448 --> 05:30:28,440
um anyway

7747
05:30:31,730 --> 05:30:29,458
um

7748
05:30:34,070 --> 05:30:31,740
I you know I really appreciate the work

7749
05:30:36,948 --> 05:30:34,080
that you do Ryan uh I think this topic I

7750
05:30:38,750 --> 05:30:36,958
think you're doing really good work um I

7751
05:30:41,208 --> 05:30:38,760
think this topic really challenges the

7752
05:30:44,270 --> 05:30:41,218
status quo of what we currently

7753
05:30:47,448 --> 05:30:44,280
understand about you know the cosmos or

7754
05:30:49,788 --> 05:30:47,458
and ourselves as human beings you know

7755
05:30:53,270 --> 05:30:49,798
I'm not saying that you know

7756
05:30:56,270 --> 05:30:53,280
um that the sightings that I had were of

7757
05:30:59,690 --> 05:30:56,280
alien alien origin but but let me tell

7758
05:31:01,850 --> 05:30:59,700
you man the first one uh it was truly

7759
05:31:04,310 --> 05:31:01,860
something out of this world it was

7760
05:31:06,890 --> 05:31:04,320
something that I had never seen

7761
05:31:08,810 --> 05:31:06,900
but for some reason after the second one

7762
05:31:11,030 --> 05:31:08,820
I have this uncanny feeling that it'll

7763
05:31:14,868 --> 05:31:11,040
keep happening again that for sure I'm

7764
05:31:18,708 --> 05:31:14,878
going to keep seeing or having more UAP

7765
05:31:20,990 --> 05:31:18,718
or UFO experiences or sightings I can't

7766
05:31:23,150 --> 05:31:21,000
tell you why that is but

7767
05:31:25,330 --> 05:31:23,160
um I know it's going to happen again I

7768
05:31:27,708 --> 05:31:25,340
just don't know when and that's okay

7769
05:31:30,770 --> 05:31:27,718
I just know that I have to just keep

7770
05:31:31,970 --> 05:31:30,780
looking up and just pay attention to the

7771
05:31:34,010 --> 05:31:31,980
night sky

7772
05:31:35,750 --> 05:31:34,020
hell even during daytime maybe something

7773
05:31:37,310 --> 05:31:35,760
may happen maybe like a day sighting

7774
05:31:38,390 --> 05:31:37,320
right

7775
05:31:38,990 --> 05:31:38,400
um anyway

7776
05:31:41,868 --> 05:31:39,000
um

7777
05:31:44,750 --> 05:31:41,878
uh anyways that's all Ryan uh thank you

7778
05:31:47,030 --> 05:31:44,760
um everyone for listening to my story

7779
05:31:51,470 --> 05:31:47,040
as Richard Dolan says you know I keep

7780
05:31:58,010 --> 05:31:53,990
hey Ryan Hey somewhere in the skies

7781
05:32:02,270 --> 05:31:58,020
listeners I'm MJ from a spooky tells

7782
05:32:05,448 --> 05:32:02,280
podcast that's e in front of spooky and

7783
05:32:08,090 --> 05:32:05,458
I have a story for you all today I hope

7784
05:32:12,110 --> 05:32:08,100
you enjoy it it's a story I grew up

7785
05:32:15,170 --> 05:32:12,120
listening and it used to terrify me as a

7786
05:32:18,110 --> 05:32:15,180
child so I hope you guys enjoy this

7787
05:32:20,570 --> 05:32:18,120
story takes place in 1994 in the middle

7788
05:32:22,750 --> 05:32:20,580
of nowhere Pueblo called latinaj in the

7789
05:32:25,310 --> 05:32:22,760
state of Zacatecas in Mexico

7790
05:32:28,070 --> 05:32:25,320
latinaha is in the municipality of

7791
05:32:29,930 --> 05:32:28,080
Villanueva according to the research of

7792
05:32:32,990 --> 05:32:29,940
this little Pueblo it no longer has

7793
05:32:35,510 --> 05:32:33,000
residence and as of right now as far as

7794
05:32:37,490 --> 05:32:35,520
I'm aware it's a ghost town not to be

7795
05:32:40,128 --> 05:32:37,500
confused with another little town of the

7796
05:32:42,050 --> 05:32:40,138
same name within the same state this

7797
05:32:44,750 --> 05:32:42,060
dinaha in particular is no longer

7798
05:32:46,490 --> 05:32:44,760
registered as a town and the people who

7799
05:32:48,590 --> 05:32:46,500
told me this story are near and dear to

7800
05:32:51,650 --> 05:32:48,600
me so all the names will be changed as

7801
05:32:53,990 --> 05:32:51,660
they wish to remain anonymous

7802
05:32:55,070 --> 05:32:54,000
one night Jose and his friend Miguel

7803
05:32:56,868 --> 05:32:55,080
were on horse

7804
05:32:58,490 --> 05:32:56,878
they were returning from a neighboring

7805
05:33:00,650 --> 05:32:58,500
town from a dance and seeing their

7806
05:33:03,170 --> 05:33:00,660
girlfriends as they were crossing the

7807
05:33:05,930 --> 05:33:03,180
road and Fields in the distance they saw

7808
05:33:07,970 --> 05:33:05,940
an airplane flying over when a light

7809
05:33:10,310 --> 05:33:07,980
suddenly appeared over the airplane and

7810
05:33:12,890 --> 05:33:10,320
engulfed it the airplane completely

7811
05:33:15,890 --> 05:33:12,900
stops almost like it was locked in time

7812
05:33:16,970 --> 05:33:15,900
and space not going up or down back or

7813
05:33:20,090 --> 05:33:16,980
forward

7814
05:33:22,310 --> 05:33:20,100
just there hovering in midair with this

7815
05:33:24,288 --> 05:33:22,320
light shining above it according to Jose

7816
05:33:26,150 --> 05:33:24,298
it couldn't have lasted more than 10

7817
05:33:27,890 --> 05:33:26,160
seconds and as soon as the light

7818
05:33:30,590 --> 05:33:27,900
appeared it vanished and the airplane

7819
05:33:34,250 --> 05:33:30,600
resumed its flight Jose and Miguel were

7820
05:33:36,530 --> 05:33:34,260
terrified because it made no sense

7821
05:33:38,570 --> 05:33:36,540
Jose would go on to clarify that Miguel

7822
05:33:40,730 --> 05:33:38,580
and him did not grow up with pop culture

7823
05:33:43,490 --> 05:33:40,740
as they lived in a farm town very rural

7824
05:33:45,890 --> 05:33:43,500
very third world country-like way of

7825
05:33:47,570 --> 05:33:45,900
living the only electrical thing in this

7826
05:33:50,448 --> 05:33:47,580
town were the street lamps the houses

7827
05:33:52,128 --> 05:33:50,458
and residents still used oil lamps and

7828
05:33:54,110 --> 05:33:52,138
they were not influenced by alien and

7829
05:33:57,650 --> 05:33:54,120
unfold culture like many parts of the

7830
05:34:00,530 --> 05:33:57,660
world no electricity no TV

7831
05:34:02,628 --> 05:34:00,540
now to return to the story Jose and

7832
05:34:04,970 --> 05:34:02,638
Miguel depart from each other each

7833
05:34:07,368 --> 05:34:04,980
heading to their own homes when Jose

7834
05:34:09,770 --> 05:34:07,378
reached his home he went straight to the

7835
05:34:12,590 --> 05:34:09,780
horse's stable as he was putting away

7836
05:34:14,930 --> 05:34:12,600
his horse Jose noticed that outside the

7837
05:34:17,570 --> 05:34:14,940
stable became entirely lit like it was

7838
05:34:19,970 --> 05:34:17,580
Daylight he'd noticed that the light

7839
05:34:22,128 --> 05:34:19,980
shining down on the stable was the very

7840
05:34:23,150 --> 05:34:22,138
same light that paused the airplane in

7841
05:34:25,610 --> 05:34:23,160
midair

7842
05:34:28,610 --> 05:34:25,620
he described it as being similar to a

7843
05:34:31,128 --> 05:34:28,620
spotlight but on a much larger scale

7844
05:34:33,590 --> 05:34:31,138
and just like with the airplane as soon

7845
05:34:36,050 --> 05:34:33,600
as it came it left once the light was no

7846
05:34:38,448 --> 05:34:36,060
longer shining down on the staple Jose

7847
05:34:40,610 --> 05:34:38,458
ran home

7848
05:34:43,250 --> 05:34:40,620
the family guard dog greeted him outside

7849
05:34:45,830 --> 05:34:43,260
the home he began rationalizing what he

7850
05:34:47,510 --> 05:34:45,840
saw as the dog seemed unaffected he

7851
05:34:49,490 --> 05:34:47,520
locked the iron screen door and the

7852
05:34:52,010 --> 05:34:49,500
wooden door behind him leaving the guard

7853
05:34:53,990 --> 05:34:52,020
dog outside his sister his brother and

7854
05:34:56,090 --> 05:34:54,000
his parents are inside the home waiting

7855
05:34:58,490 --> 05:34:56,100
for him and they noticed he was shaken

7856
05:35:01,550 --> 05:34:58,500
they asked what was wrong and Jose

7857
05:35:06,288 --> 05:35:01,560
recounted his experience a few hours

7858
05:35:08,448 --> 05:35:06,298
later everything seemed back to normal

7859
05:35:10,690 --> 05:35:08,458
as they were getting ready to go to bed

7860
05:35:13,670 --> 05:35:10,700
their dog starts going wild outside

7861
05:35:16,010 --> 05:35:13,680
barking and growling ready to attack

7862
05:35:17,990 --> 05:35:16,020
something the family became startled

7863
05:35:19,250 --> 05:35:18,000
maybe it was someone trying to take one

7864
05:35:21,170 --> 05:35:19,260
of their animals

7865
05:35:24,288 --> 05:35:21,180
to their horror the family hears

7866
05:35:25,670 --> 05:35:24,298
something fall on the roof a very heavy

7867
05:35:27,770 --> 05:35:25,680
thump

7868
05:35:30,830 --> 05:35:27,780
something either fell on the roof or

7869
05:35:34,368 --> 05:35:30,840
something jumped onto the roof and this

7870
05:35:38,090 --> 05:35:34,378
something starts walking across and it

7871
05:35:40,730 --> 05:35:38,100
seems to be bipedal walking on two legs

7872
05:35:42,890 --> 05:35:40,740
it was not a four-legged Creature From

7873
05:35:45,890 --> 05:35:42,900
what Jose's sister says it sounded like

7874
05:35:48,350 --> 05:35:45,900
this thing had a claws

7875
05:35:50,690 --> 05:35:48,360
step that was taken it had the sound of

7876
05:35:53,570 --> 05:35:50,700
claws dragging across the roof at this

7877
05:35:55,190 --> 05:35:53,580
point the family is frantic Jose and his

7878
05:35:57,590 --> 05:35:55,200
brother grabbed their guns and ready for

7879
05:35:59,270 --> 05:35:57,600
an attack whatever is on the roof if it

7880
05:36:01,788 --> 05:35:59,280
comes through the ceiling or tries the

7881
05:36:03,948 --> 05:36:01,798
door they will be ready

7882
05:36:05,930 --> 05:36:03,958
meanwhile the dog at this point is in

7883
05:36:07,970 --> 05:36:05,940
fear and it's no longer sounding angry

7884
05:36:09,530 --> 05:36:07,980
it's sounding afraid and it starts

7885
05:36:12,110 --> 05:36:09,540
running and slamming into the front

7886
05:36:14,448 --> 05:36:12,120
doors charging at the doors over and

7887
05:36:16,128 --> 05:36:14,458
over and over nearly breaking the iron

7888
05:36:18,708 --> 05:36:16,138
screen door in the wooden door along

7889
05:36:21,590 --> 05:36:18,718
with it whimpering barking and growling

7890
05:36:26,090 --> 05:36:21,600
the dog is in complete hysterics when

7891
05:36:28,730 --> 05:36:26,100
all of a sudden all the noises just stop

7892
05:36:31,490 --> 05:36:28,740
the walking on the roof has stopped the

7893
05:36:32,868 --> 05:36:31,500
dog has stopped everything becomes

7894
05:36:35,208 --> 05:36:32,878
silent

7895
05:36:36,590 --> 05:36:35,218
they did not rest that entire night and

7896
05:36:38,510 --> 05:36:36,600
when morning came they opened their

7897
05:36:41,330 --> 05:36:38,520
doors and saw the dog was laying there

7898
05:36:43,368 --> 05:36:41,340
on the floor dead no blood no cuts no

7899
05:36:46,250 --> 05:36:43,378
wounds it looked like it was sleeping

7900
05:36:48,288 --> 05:36:46,260
after these incidents Jose had suffered

7901
05:36:49,970 --> 05:36:48,298
and many people around the town and the

7902
05:36:51,708 --> 05:36:49,980
neighboring Town see lights coming in

7903
05:36:54,110 --> 05:36:51,718
and out of the lake that's at the edge

7904
05:36:55,910 --> 05:36:54,120
of latinaj one of these people who have

7905
05:36:58,070 --> 05:36:55,920
seen these flights coming in and out of

7906
05:37:01,670 --> 05:36:58,080
the lake has been her sister on two

7907
05:37:04,070 --> 05:37:01,680
occasions several other residents of the

7908
05:37:06,110 --> 05:37:04,080
neighboring town as well so much so that

7909
05:37:08,150 --> 05:37:06,120
they would wait out for any family or

7910
05:37:11,570 --> 05:37:08,160
friend walking near this Lake late at

7911
05:37:14,330 --> 05:37:11,580
night to make sure they got home safe

7912
05:37:17,868 --> 05:37:14,340
and that is the story I hope you enjoyed

7913
05:37:21,530 --> 05:37:17,878
listening it is a story that was retold

7914
05:37:24,410 --> 05:37:21,540
over and over again to me as a child and

7915
05:37:28,330 --> 05:37:24,420
it used to scare me so much but with

7916
05:37:30,230 --> 05:37:28,340
that being said bye and stay as spooky

7917
05:37:34,390 --> 05:37:30,240
[Music]

7918
05:37:37,690 --> 05:37:34,400
hi Ryan my name is John and

7919
05:37:41,810 --> 05:37:37,700
I experienced something absolutely

7920
05:37:46,070 --> 05:37:41,820
extraordinary with my mom just outside

7921
05:37:48,830 --> 05:37:46,080
of Casa Grande Arizona a little less

7922
05:37:50,070 --> 05:37:48,840
than a month ago and I'd like to tell

7923
05:37:50,690 --> 05:37:50,080
you about it

7924
05:37:52,030 --> 05:37:50,700
[Music]

7925
05:37:54,470 --> 05:37:52,040
um

7926
05:37:56,750 --> 05:37:54,480
we have been spending time out in

7927
05:37:58,670 --> 05:37:56,760
Arizona we're from California uh just

7928
05:38:01,610 --> 05:37:58,680
north of Los Angeles

7929
05:38:04,970 --> 05:38:01,620
and I've been spending time out here in

7930
05:38:06,708 --> 05:38:04,980
Arizona with my mom and puppies

7931
05:38:09,170 --> 05:38:06,718
doing a sort of

7932
05:38:13,850 --> 05:38:09,180
artist Retreat you know we're making art

7933
05:38:16,190 --> 05:38:13,860
music and now I guess taking pictures of

7934
05:38:18,288 --> 05:38:16,200
UFOs

7935
05:38:19,490 --> 05:38:18,298
um we're no strangers to this sort of

7936
05:38:22,788 --> 05:38:19,500
thing

7937
05:38:25,190 --> 05:38:22,798
um I've personally seen about a dozen

7938
05:38:28,730 --> 05:38:25,200
good UFOs in my life

7939
05:38:30,530 --> 05:38:28,740
with you know details lights you know

7940
05:38:33,470 --> 05:38:30,540
all kinds of stuff and I think I've seen

7941
05:38:35,810 --> 05:38:33,480
a mix of government craft

7942
05:38:36,470 --> 05:38:35,820
ET Craft

7943
05:38:38,990 --> 05:38:36,480
um

7944
05:38:43,090 --> 05:38:39,000
we've just never

7945
05:38:45,730 --> 05:38:43,100
gotten the opportunity to get it on film

7946
05:38:50,448 --> 05:38:45,740
until now

7947
05:38:54,610 --> 05:38:50,458
so on the 11th of May we were here about

7948
05:38:58,190 --> 05:38:54,620
10 miles outside of Casa Grande Arizona

7949
05:39:03,170 --> 05:38:58,200
in a retirement community a 55 plus

7950
05:39:06,050 --> 05:39:03,180
Community where my mom is renting a spot

7951
05:39:09,288 --> 05:39:06,060
and she's got a trailer set up and it's

7952
05:39:10,670 --> 05:39:09,298
pretty Bare Bones but it works it's a

7953
05:39:14,208 --> 05:39:10,680
nice little

7954
05:39:15,948 --> 05:39:14,218
spot to get away and do something

7955
05:39:18,110 --> 05:39:15,958
creative

7956
05:39:21,830 --> 05:39:18,120
so we were

7957
05:39:24,530 --> 05:39:21,840
well that day I had come into town to do

7958
05:39:25,850 --> 05:39:24,540
some stuff and on my way back the sun

7959
05:39:29,690 --> 05:39:25,860
was going down

7960
05:39:32,690 --> 05:39:29,700
and here in this part of Arizona the sky

7961
05:39:34,850 --> 05:39:32,700
is massive in California we have a lot

7962
05:39:36,770 --> 05:39:34,860
of mountains and

7963
05:39:38,868 --> 05:39:36,780
it just seems a lot smaller there here

7964
05:39:41,690 --> 05:39:38,878
it kind of looks like the sky looks over

7965
05:39:44,510 --> 05:39:41,700
the ocean it just you a horizon to

7966
05:39:47,210 --> 05:39:44,520
Horizon it's it's massive and I noticed

7967
05:39:48,310 --> 05:39:47,220
right away with the

7968
05:39:51,948 --> 05:39:48,320
[Music]

7969
05:39:54,708 --> 05:39:51,958
Sunset that

7970
05:39:57,288 --> 05:39:54,718
the clouds were looking weird that day

7971
05:39:58,730 --> 05:39:57,298
they were crossing the entire Sky they

7972
05:40:01,070 --> 05:39:58,740
looked like

7973
05:40:03,470 --> 05:40:01,080
almost like a dividing cell or something

7974
05:40:04,850 --> 05:40:03,480
I mean just massive clouds and I was

7975
05:40:06,830 --> 05:40:04,860
already thinking oh yeah there's

7976
05:40:10,070 --> 05:40:06,840
probably like a Mothership or something

7977
05:40:13,010 --> 05:40:10,080
hiding in there right and so I came back

7978
05:40:15,650 --> 05:40:13,020
to the place and we decided

7979
05:40:18,170 --> 05:40:15,660
a couple hours later to go walk the dogs

7980
05:40:21,470 --> 05:40:18,180
to the dog park which is right there by

7981
05:40:26,690 --> 05:40:22,868
my mom

7982
05:40:30,470 --> 05:40:26,700
didn't normally bring her phone on such

7983
05:40:32,510 --> 05:40:30,480
walks she was intuitively called to grab

7984
05:40:34,010 --> 05:40:32,520
it I mean we were looking at the clouds

7985
05:40:35,990 --> 05:40:34,020
and they were strange and she thought

7986
05:40:37,910 --> 05:40:36,000
okay well you know we'll capture some

7987
05:40:40,430 --> 05:40:37,920
interesting pictures

7988
05:40:42,708 --> 05:40:40,440
of cloud formations here that were like

7989
05:40:44,050 --> 05:40:42,718
interlocking right above our heads it

7990
05:40:46,910 --> 05:40:44,060
was really weird

7991
05:40:49,850 --> 05:40:46,920
and so she grabbed her phone we took the

7992
05:40:51,708 --> 05:40:49,860
dogs to the dog park and on our way back

7993
05:40:55,310 --> 05:40:51,718
is when

7994
05:40:57,050 --> 05:40:55,320
we decided to she decided to grab her

7995
05:40:59,750 --> 05:40:57,060
phone and snap some pictures of the

7996
05:41:02,448 --> 05:40:59,760
clouds the clouds at this point were

7997
05:41:03,830 --> 05:41:02,458
showing us pictures

7998
05:41:10,730 --> 05:41:03,840
so

7999
05:41:12,350 --> 05:41:10,740
baby that my mother had lost many years

8000
05:41:16,190 --> 05:41:12,360
ago

8001
05:41:21,590 --> 05:41:16,200
and then it morphed into what looked

8002
05:41:24,350 --> 05:41:21,600
like a gray E.T the head you know with

8003
05:41:25,788 --> 05:41:24,360
the big black eyes and and that sort of

8004
05:41:28,330 --> 05:41:25,798
thing and that's actually the moment

8005
05:41:32,628 --> 05:41:28,340
that my mom took out her phone

8006
05:41:33,288 --> 05:41:32,638
and she aimed to capture that

8007
05:41:35,208 --> 05:41:33,298
um

8008
05:41:37,250 --> 05:41:35,218
inner camera

8009
05:41:39,350 --> 05:41:37,260
so

8010
05:41:41,030 --> 05:41:39,360
she takes it out and she points it

8011
05:41:42,948 --> 05:41:41,040
straight up into the sky above us these

8012
05:41:45,170 --> 05:41:42,958
clouds by the way they were only a

8013
05:41:47,750 --> 05:41:45,180
couple hundred feet above our heads and

8014
05:41:49,670 --> 05:41:47,760
they were like Gliding Over Us like on a

8015
05:41:52,250 --> 05:41:49,680
piece of glass or something and then

8016
05:41:54,050 --> 05:41:52,260
when we started seeing these images the

8017
05:41:57,110 --> 05:41:54,060
clouds were actually

8018
05:41:59,990 --> 05:41:57,120
coming towards us like down towards us

8019
05:42:03,050 --> 05:42:00,000
towards the ground it was unbelievable

8020
05:42:04,690 --> 05:42:03,060
I've never seen clouds quote unquote do

8021
05:42:08,690 --> 05:42:04,700
this before in my life

8022
05:42:12,050 --> 05:42:08,700
and so she she snapped six pictures over

8023
05:42:14,708 --> 05:42:12,060
the course of 29 seconds at around 9 00

8024
05:42:17,690 --> 05:42:14,718
p.m on the 11th of May

8025
05:42:19,490 --> 05:42:17,700
there wasn't any light pollution it was

8026
05:42:21,830 --> 05:42:19,500
quiet everyone in the complex was

8027
05:42:23,810 --> 05:42:21,840
already asleep

8028
05:42:25,128 --> 05:42:23,820
really great conditions for taking

8029
05:42:33,770 --> 05:42:25,138
pictures

8030
05:42:36,350 --> 05:42:33,780
time we just we got tired we walked back

8031
05:42:38,810 --> 05:42:36,360
to the place and we fell asleep

8032
05:42:40,970 --> 05:42:38,820
immediately it wasn't until the next

8033
05:42:43,850 --> 05:42:40,980
morning that

8034
05:42:47,208 --> 05:42:43,860
we realized what exactly we had caught

8035
05:42:48,590 --> 05:42:47,218
in these photographs

8036
05:42:51,708 --> 05:42:48,600
um

8037
05:42:53,930 --> 05:42:51,718
in fact my mom almost threw them out the

8038
05:42:55,670 --> 05:42:53,940
previous evening she did see them as

8039
05:42:57,128 --> 05:42:55,680
thumbnails in her phone and she thought

8040
05:42:59,810 --> 05:42:57,138
that there was

8041
05:43:01,128 --> 05:42:59,820
you know like like light pollution or

8042
05:43:02,930 --> 05:43:01,138
something was happening in the photos

8043
05:43:05,270 --> 05:43:02,940
that they were crap and they were trash

8044
05:43:07,190 --> 05:43:05,280
and she actually almost threw them away

8045
05:43:09,530 --> 05:43:07,200
something inside of her was like no no

8046
05:43:13,730 --> 05:43:09,540
no just hold on to these and the next

8047
05:43:16,270 --> 05:43:13,740
morning we took a close look and were

8048
05:43:19,730 --> 05:43:16,280
absolutely

8049
05:43:21,890 --> 05:43:19,740
astonished uh with what we saw I should

8050
05:43:24,590 --> 05:43:21,900
add too that when we were taking the

8051
05:43:25,910 --> 05:43:24,600
pictures when we saw the the images and

8052
05:43:27,948 --> 05:43:25,920
the clouds and they were coming towards

8053
05:43:30,288 --> 05:43:27,958
us and all that we felt the whole time

8054
05:43:31,910 --> 05:43:30,298
like they were craft up there it's just

8055
05:43:33,530 --> 05:43:31,920
you know we just know it it's an

8056
05:43:35,390 --> 05:43:33,540
intuitive feeling and when clouds like

8057
05:43:37,070 --> 05:43:35,400
this happen which by the way have

8058
05:43:39,230 --> 05:43:37,080
happened in our past

8059
05:43:40,610 --> 05:43:39,240
and they've preceded these sorts of

8060
05:43:42,288 --> 05:43:40,620
clouds with the fingers stretching

8061
05:43:45,410 --> 05:43:42,298
across

8062
05:43:49,250 --> 05:43:45,420
they've proceeded weird events

8063
05:43:51,048 --> 05:43:49,260
in the nights that they've appeared so

8064
05:43:55,310 --> 05:43:51,058
she knew right away

8065
05:43:56,090 --> 05:43:55,320
something was up and I don't know

8066
05:43:58,670 --> 05:43:56,100
um

8067
05:44:01,490 --> 05:43:58,680
the images I mean they they speak for

8068
05:44:04,850 --> 05:44:01,500
themselves in five of the six images she

8069
05:44:08,810 --> 05:44:04,860
caught this craft which

8070
05:44:11,868 --> 05:44:08,820
has rows of of colors of Lights

8071
05:44:15,470 --> 05:44:11,878
um the thing we estimate is probably I

8072
05:44:16,788 --> 05:44:15,480
don't know seven eight decks tall I mean

8073
05:44:19,430 --> 05:44:16,798
it was massive

8074
05:44:21,048 --> 05:44:19,440
um if you extrapolate you know from

8075
05:44:22,910 --> 05:44:21,058
where the camera position was and

8076
05:44:24,830 --> 05:44:22,920
looking up into the sky and we caught

8077
05:44:26,690 --> 05:44:24,840
you know the edge of this thing it's

8078
05:44:29,510 --> 05:44:26,700
probably a couple hundred feet across

8079
05:44:31,310 --> 05:44:29,520
and we did not see this thing with our

8080
05:44:32,990 --> 05:44:31,320
Naked Eyes

8081
05:44:35,690 --> 05:44:33,000
um it was completely invisible we felt

8082
05:44:38,448 --> 05:44:35,700
it up there but the fact that we

8083
05:44:41,890 --> 05:44:38,458
actually got something in photograph

8084
05:44:44,990 --> 05:44:41,900
that we couldn't see with our eyes is

8085
05:44:46,070 --> 05:44:45,000
absolutely astounding

8086
05:44:51,110 --> 05:44:46,080
um

8087
05:44:53,030 --> 05:44:51,120
between Dimensions or yeah I don't know

8088
05:44:55,368 --> 05:44:53,040
maybe it was moving too fast for our

8089
05:44:57,350 --> 05:44:55,378
eyes to see but the camera shutter got

8090
05:44:58,070 --> 05:44:57,360
it

8091
05:45:00,470 --> 05:44:58,080
um

8092
05:45:01,850 --> 05:45:00,480
I we really don't know we really don't

8093
05:45:04,070 --> 05:45:01,860
know we don't know if this is government

8094
05:45:05,150 --> 05:45:04,080
or if it's ET

8095
05:45:06,650 --> 05:45:05,160
um

8096
05:45:09,048 --> 05:45:06,660
but

8097
05:45:11,390 --> 05:45:09,058
the pictures are extraordinary

8098
05:45:15,288 --> 05:45:11,400
um in the words of of John Halloran from

8099
05:45:19,190 --> 05:45:15,298
mufon who gave us a prompt call for an

8100
05:45:23,170 --> 05:45:19,200
interview about all the details his word

8101
05:45:25,368 --> 05:45:23,180
was that these photos are extraordinary

8102
05:45:27,890 --> 05:45:25,378
and they are

8103
05:45:29,990 --> 05:45:27,900
um the sixth one in particular where you

8104
05:45:33,350 --> 05:45:30,000
can really see the craft if you if you

8105
05:45:35,990 --> 05:45:33,360
zoom in on that there's a whole wealth

8106
05:45:37,850 --> 05:45:36,000
of details there porthole windows that

8107
05:45:41,390 --> 05:45:37,860
are reflecting off the hall you can see

8108
05:45:45,530 --> 05:45:41,400
the ridge lines you can see a pipeline

8109
05:45:49,070 --> 05:45:45,540
going across you can see a braided

8110
05:45:50,448 --> 05:45:49,080
not work on the bottom of the craft it's

8111
05:45:52,730 --> 05:45:50,458
unbelievable

8112
05:45:54,170 --> 05:45:52,740
so you know with this audio recording

8113
05:45:56,868 --> 05:45:54,180
that I'm going to be sending you I'll

8114
05:46:00,048 --> 05:45:56,878
send you the pictures and a little bit

8115
05:46:02,570 --> 05:46:00,058
of analysis that we've done too but

8116
05:46:06,610 --> 05:46:02,580
um yeah that's our experience that

8117
05:46:10,010 --> 05:46:06,620
particular time now I will add that

8118
05:46:15,288 --> 05:46:10,020
we've actually seen and recorded

8119
05:46:19,190 --> 05:46:15,298
multiple UFOs here in in Arizona on our

8120
05:46:21,470 --> 05:46:19,200
drive back this time we we came here we

8121
05:46:23,510 --> 05:46:21,480
my mom photographed a UFO and then we

8122
05:46:26,390 --> 05:46:23,520
went back home for a couple weeks and

8123
05:46:31,490 --> 05:46:26,400
now we're back in Arizona and on our

8124
05:46:34,788 --> 05:46:31,500
drive back we saw a triangular UFO that

8125
05:46:36,650 --> 05:46:34,798
that flashed us for just a couple

8126
05:46:39,288 --> 05:46:36,660
seconds it was too quick for her to grab

8127
05:46:41,510 --> 05:46:39,298
her phone I was driving but it showed us

8128
05:46:44,448 --> 05:46:41,520
its bottom side it was a it was an orb

8129
05:46:46,788 --> 05:46:44,458
of light it was a white orb and then it

8130
05:46:50,270 --> 05:46:46,798
morphed into a triangle that was facing

8131
05:46:52,730 --> 05:46:50,280
us with a red light on one corner and

8132
05:46:54,470 --> 05:46:52,740
green lights on the other two corners no

8133
05:46:58,670 --> 05:46:54,480
red death light in the middle so I don't

8134
05:47:00,650 --> 05:46:58,680
think this is necessarily A tr3b

8135
05:47:03,230 --> 05:47:00,660
um but we did see that and then it

8136
05:47:04,910 --> 05:47:03,240
turned into a Red Orb and and flew off

8137
05:47:07,128 --> 05:47:04,920
you know into the distance so she

8138
05:47:09,410 --> 05:47:07,138
actually got some of that on video uh

8139
05:47:12,350 --> 05:47:09,420
when it turned into the Red Orb and then

8140
05:47:15,470 --> 05:47:12,360
we saw on our last trip here we also saw

8141
05:47:19,610 --> 05:47:15,480
another UFO over the complex and it was

8142
05:47:21,288 --> 05:47:19,620
just a um it was a white orb that was

8143
05:47:23,330 --> 05:47:21,298
flashing all these different colors and

8144
05:47:25,190 --> 05:47:23,340
it looked kind of iridescent and I got a

8145
05:47:26,810 --> 05:47:25,200
really good video of it the thing is

8146
05:47:29,628 --> 05:47:26,820
compared to this other these other

8147
05:47:31,970 --> 05:47:29,638
pictures that we got you know

8148
05:47:33,230 --> 05:47:31,980
they'll put it this way the video

8149
05:47:36,948 --> 05:47:33,240
footage

8150
05:47:37,910 --> 05:47:36,958
would have excited us before we got

8151
05:47:40,070 --> 05:47:37,920
these

8152
05:47:41,868 --> 05:47:40,080
images

8153
05:47:43,850 --> 05:47:41,878
um but in comparison it's you know

8154
05:47:46,490 --> 05:47:43,860
whatever but yeah we actually do have

8155
05:47:49,368 --> 05:47:46,500
another UFO video too we could send you

8156
05:47:51,708 --> 05:47:49,378
if you were interested but anyway that's

8157
05:47:54,490 --> 05:47:51,718
that's pretty much a story I hope I

8158
05:47:56,570 --> 05:47:54,500
didn't leave anything out

8159
05:48:01,490 --> 05:47:56,580
and um

8160
05:48:03,230 --> 05:48:01,500
yeah thank you for taking the time to

8161
05:48:05,030 --> 05:48:03,240
um listen to this we want to get this

8162
05:48:08,330 --> 05:48:05,040
out there to the world we want the world

8163
05:48:10,070 --> 05:48:08,340
to see these images but it seems like a

8164
05:48:12,650 --> 05:48:10,080
lot of people out there can't see it or

8165
05:48:15,410 --> 05:48:12,660
maybe they're hypnotized or maybe the

8166
05:48:18,230 --> 05:48:15,420
images are too good a quality maybe they

8167
05:48:20,030 --> 05:48:18,240
look like bad CGI or something and

8168
05:48:22,670 --> 05:48:20,040
people just they take one glance at it

8169
05:48:25,030 --> 05:48:22,680
and go yeah no it's not but it's

8170
05:48:29,510 --> 05:48:27,470
absolutely extraordinary

8171
05:48:31,250 --> 05:48:29,520
the detail

8172
05:48:33,948 --> 05:48:31,260
so

8173
05:48:36,708 --> 05:48:33,958
yeah thank you and

8174
05:48:38,750 --> 05:48:36,718
um have a good one

8175
05:48:40,310 --> 05:48:38,760
hi Ryan thank you for having me on

8176
05:48:42,770 --> 05:48:40,320
somewhere in the skies I'm an avid

8177
05:48:46,070 --> 05:48:42,780
listener and I can't wait to tell you my

8178
05:48:47,690 --> 05:48:46,080
story so my name is Dennis I live in

8179
05:48:50,448 --> 05:48:47,700
Southampton at the moment but I used to

8180
05:48:52,010 --> 05:48:50,458
live on the Isle of Wight which is a

8181
05:48:53,948 --> 05:48:52,020
little island of the south coast of

8182
05:48:57,170 --> 05:48:53,958
England in the UK

8183
05:48:59,448 --> 05:48:57,180
and my story basically uh was what

8184
05:49:02,390 --> 05:48:59,458
kick-started my absolute fascination

8185
05:49:04,128 --> 05:49:02,400
with aliens with UFOs with the

8186
05:49:06,288 --> 05:49:04,138
Paranormal

8187
05:49:07,850 --> 05:49:06,298
um because it was something that I just

8188
05:49:09,470 --> 05:49:07,860
couldn't explain no matter how hard I

8189
05:49:11,150 --> 05:49:09,480
tried I always had a Fascination in that

8190
05:49:13,910 --> 05:49:11,160
side of things but this really

8191
05:49:15,110 --> 05:49:13,920
kick-started it for me and

8192
05:49:16,670 --> 05:49:15,120
um ever since then I've been really sort

8193
05:49:17,990 --> 05:49:16,680
of like looking for paranormal stories

8194
05:49:20,690 --> 05:49:18,000
and it's why I came across this podcast

8195
05:49:23,090 --> 05:49:20,700
a few years ago and I listened to it all

8196
05:49:25,788 --> 05:49:23,100
the time so I used to take my dog for a

8197
05:49:28,128 --> 05:49:25,798
walk uh we used to go up to this Castle

8198
05:49:29,868 --> 05:49:28,138
in Newport on the Isle of Wight so as

8199
05:49:31,910 --> 05:49:29,878
you can imagine the castle sits way up

8200
05:49:33,410 --> 05:49:31,920
above the town it's a very small town

8201
05:49:35,570 --> 05:49:33,420
it's the county town of the Isle of

8202
05:49:37,670 --> 05:49:35,580
Wight and I would take my dog up there

8203
05:49:39,770 --> 05:49:37,680
each evening this was happening

8204
05:49:41,390 --> 05:49:39,780
um October so it was fairly dark at this

8205
05:49:42,470 --> 05:49:41,400
point in time I like going up there

8206
05:49:43,670 --> 05:49:42,480
because you can see all around the town

8207
05:49:45,708 --> 05:49:43,680
all the lights and it was really

8208
05:49:48,410 --> 05:49:45,718
relaxing really calming a little bit

8209
05:49:50,330 --> 05:49:48,420
spooky but also a great walk

8210
05:49:52,128 --> 05:49:50,340
um so I got to the top where the castle

8211
05:49:54,470 --> 05:49:52,138
is where the car park is

8212
05:49:57,590 --> 05:49:54,480
and then just turned to my right where I

8213
05:49:59,750 --> 05:49:57,600
could oversee the forest to the front of

8214
05:50:02,030 --> 05:49:59,760
me and the main Town below and to the

8215
05:50:04,190 --> 05:50:02,040
right and all of a sudden I could see

8216
05:50:06,350 --> 05:50:04,200
these four dots in the sky and they were

8217
05:50:07,788 --> 05:50:06,360
fairly large so large you would larger

8218
05:50:10,548 --> 05:50:07,798
than what you would see with an airplane

8219
05:50:13,070 --> 05:50:10,558
with their lights and each one was

8220
05:50:14,750 --> 05:50:13,080
pulsing in a diff in like formation

8221
05:50:16,430 --> 05:50:14,760
pulsing so one would pulse one color

8222
05:50:18,170 --> 05:50:16,440
then the next one then the next one and

8223
05:50:19,970 --> 05:50:18,180
the next one and I was like oh that's

8224
05:50:21,590 --> 05:50:19,980
interesting and I was trying to work out

8225
05:50:23,330 --> 05:50:21,600
what it was I said what could that be

8226
05:50:25,368 --> 05:50:23,340
and all of a sudden they started moving

8227
05:50:27,288 --> 05:50:25,378
apart and then moving around each other

8228
05:50:29,270 --> 05:50:27,298
and sort of taking different places in

8229
05:50:32,390 --> 05:50:29,280
the formation and I'm like well this is

8230
05:50:34,250 --> 05:50:32,400
strange this is very interesting

8231
05:50:36,410 --> 05:50:34,260
um and then they were moving in more

8232
05:50:37,850 --> 05:50:36,420
complex Fashions and I was like this is

8233
05:50:39,708 --> 05:50:37,860
the craziest thing I've ever seen how

8234
05:50:41,150 --> 05:50:39,718
how you know how am I going to explain

8235
05:50:42,830 --> 05:50:41,160
this

8236
05:50:46,368 --> 05:50:42,840
um and then after a few minutes of that

8237
05:50:47,750 --> 05:50:46,378
they just moved really high further in

8238
05:50:50,150 --> 05:50:47,760
sky and sort of faded a bit and then

8239
05:50:52,010 --> 05:50:50,160
just completely disappeared and it was

8240
05:50:53,868 --> 05:50:52,020
the most interesting and crazy

8241
05:50:56,090 --> 05:50:53,878
experience that I've ever had and really

8242
05:50:58,070 --> 05:50:56,100
made me think that there is definitely

8243
05:51:00,230 --> 05:50:58,080
something out there and ever since then

8244
05:51:02,330 --> 05:51:00,240
I've just kept My Eyes to the Sky all

8245
05:51:03,890 --> 05:51:02,340
the time and I've had you know a number

8246
05:51:05,270 --> 05:51:03,900
of times where I've seen things that I

8247
05:51:06,948 --> 05:51:05,280
can't explain in the number of stories

8248
05:51:08,570 --> 05:51:06,958
that I may have to to send in at some

8249
05:51:10,010 --> 05:51:08,580
other point

8250
05:51:12,708 --> 05:51:10,020
um but yeah it was a fascinating

8251
05:51:14,690 --> 05:51:12,718
experience and really put me into that

8252
05:51:16,970 --> 05:51:14,700
mode of whatever else is out there and

8253
05:51:19,430 --> 05:51:16,980
I've been researching and been very

8254
05:51:20,750 --> 05:51:19,440
interested about it since then just

8255
05:51:22,430 --> 05:51:20,760
thought I'd like to share my story with

8256
05:51:25,850 --> 05:51:22,440
you uh thank you so much for having me

8257
05:51:29,628 --> 05:51:27,830
hey Ryan thanks for having me on

8258
05:51:32,208 --> 05:51:29,638
somewhere in the skies my name is Kendra

8259
05:51:34,070 --> 05:51:32,218
and just as a very short bio I'm a

8260
05:51:36,288 --> 05:51:34,080
professional tarot reader and paragraphy

8261
05:51:38,030 --> 05:51:36,298
artist I've had an 18-year affinity with

8262
05:51:40,250 --> 05:51:38,040
witchcraft spirituality and I've been

8263
05:51:42,170 --> 05:51:40,260
obsessed with UFOs and the possibility

8264
05:51:44,090 --> 05:51:42,180
of extraterrestrial being since I first

8265
05:51:46,850 --> 05:51:44,100
saw the alien autopsy video when I was

8266
05:51:48,650 --> 05:51:46,860
like 10 and the internet happened I've

8267
05:51:51,170 --> 05:51:48,660
had two sightings in my life that I'll

8268
05:51:52,910 --> 05:51:51,180
just briefly try to relay for listeners

8269
05:51:54,830 --> 05:51:52,920
my first sighting must have been 20

8270
05:51:57,170 --> 05:51:54,840
years ago when I was just outside of the

8271
05:51:59,570 --> 05:51:57,180
store with my mom there was a fleet of

8272
05:52:01,310 --> 05:51:59,580
white spheres in the sky even as a child

8273
05:52:03,288 --> 05:52:01,320
I knew that these objects were flying

8274
05:52:05,510 --> 05:52:03,298
abnormally but the coolest part was that

8275
05:52:08,270 --> 05:52:05,520
they were doing synchronized formations

8276
05:52:10,010 --> 05:52:08,280
fast forward to the summer of 2021 in

8277
05:52:11,930 --> 05:52:10,020
the Rocky mountains of Colorado where I

8278
05:52:13,490 --> 05:52:11,940
used to live I was outside on our deck

8279
05:52:14,868 --> 05:52:13,500
looking West when I got a sparkling

8280
05:52:17,150 --> 05:52:14,878
object

8281
05:52:19,548 --> 05:52:17,160
flying in a straight path across the sky

8282
05:52:21,048 --> 05:52:19,558
I watched it for a few seconds before I

8283
05:52:22,970 --> 05:52:21,058
decided that it wasn't the reflection of

8284
05:52:24,350 --> 05:52:22,980
a plane I pulled out my phone and

8285
05:52:26,750 --> 05:52:24,360
started recording and though this is

8286
05:52:28,788 --> 05:52:26,760
purely speculative it's almost as if the

8287
05:52:30,948 --> 05:52:28,798
object knew I started recording because

8288
05:52:32,570 --> 05:52:30,958
it disappeared a split second later

8289
05:52:34,128 --> 05:52:32,580
I knew I had witnessed something

8290
05:52:36,288 --> 05:52:34,138
substantial because of the way it

8291
05:52:38,510 --> 05:52:36,298
disappeared like it just disintegrated

8292
05:52:40,190 --> 05:52:38,520
I'm sure many of your listeners have

8293
05:52:42,110 --> 05:52:40,200
watched the latest season of Skinwalker

8294
05:52:44,390 --> 05:52:42,120
Ranch but it was exactly like the UFO

8295
05:52:45,890 --> 05:52:44,400
that was seen during the laser triangle

8296
05:52:48,410 --> 05:52:45,900
experiment and dissipated in the same

8297
05:52:49,730 --> 05:52:48,420
way I actually contacted Candace from

8298
05:52:52,670 --> 05:52:49,740
the show because I had never seen

8299
05:52:54,530 --> 05:52:52,680
anything so similar to what I had seen

8300
05:52:56,510 --> 05:52:54,540
I also think it's important to note that

8301
05:52:58,910 --> 05:52:56,520
Skinwalker was about four hours West

8302
05:53:01,368 --> 05:52:58,920
from my location anyway I filed a report

8303
05:53:03,470 --> 05:53:01,378
with mufon and their field investigator

8304
05:53:05,810 --> 05:53:03,480
determined that this object was indeed a

8305
05:53:07,430 --> 05:53:05,820
UFO I have a split second video of that

8306
05:53:09,230 --> 05:53:07,440
amazing experience but in the slowed

8307
05:53:10,670 --> 05:53:09,240
down version of that video I can see

8308
05:53:13,070 --> 05:53:10,680
that the object was spinning or

8309
05:53:15,288 --> 05:53:13,080
pulsating and that it did indeed just

8310
05:53:17,208 --> 05:53:15,298
Poof from existence

8311
05:53:18,830 --> 05:53:17,218
for me even as a child I've never

8312
05:53:20,750 --> 05:53:18,840
questioned the possibility that we are

8313
05:53:23,510 --> 05:53:20,760
not alone in the universe after spending

8314
05:53:25,430 --> 05:53:23,520
years as an amateur researcher regarding

8315
05:53:27,170 --> 05:53:25,440
the subject I feel like we were at the

8316
05:53:28,910 --> 05:53:27,180
point of beating a dead horse the

8317
05:53:30,470 --> 05:53:28,920
evidence is stacked and I'm hopeful that

8318
05:53:33,048 --> 05:53:30,480
peaceful disclosure will happen during

8319
05:53:34,910 --> 05:53:33,058
my lifetime I also felt like humanity is

8320
05:53:37,128 --> 05:53:34,920
at a Tipping Point and regardless of how

8321
05:53:39,230 --> 05:53:37,138
much sufo nerds want the world

8322
05:53:41,570 --> 05:53:39,240
governments to come forward we really

8323
05:53:43,128 --> 05:53:41,580
need them to take from that what you

8324
05:53:44,750 --> 05:53:43,138
will but I think it is really important

8325
05:53:47,270 --> 05:53:44,760
to navigate the feature of this subject

8326
05:53:51,288 --> 05:53:47,280
without bias and without fear Mars isn't

8327
05:53:52,730 --> 05:53:51,298
attacking so that's my little UFO story

8328
05:53:55,070 --> 05:53:52,740
um thanks again for having me on the

8329
05:54:00,948 --> 05:53:58,368
hello Ryan my name is Will Murray I'm a

8330
05:54:04,250 --> 05:54:00,958
professional writer and novelist

8331
05:54:06,590 --> 05:54:04,260
in the middle 2000s I was coming back

8332
05:54:09,650 --> 05:54:06,600
from a writing assignment in Vancouver

8333
05:54:13,490 --> 05:54:09,660
Canada and flying over the continental

8334
05:54:15,530 --> 05:54:13,500
United States in a passenger plane I was

8335
05:54:17,090 --> 05:54:15,540
seated in a window seat on the starboard

8336
05:54:19,788 --> 05:54:17,100
side of the plane

8337
05:54:22,250 --> 05:54:19,798
I had been reading a book and put it

8338
05:54:24,830 --> 05:54:22,260
down to give my eyes a rest and started

8339
05:54:25,970 --> 05:54:24,840
staring out the window it was a sunny

8340
05:54:28,850 --> 05:54:25,980
day

8341
05:54:32,930 --> 05:54:28,860
and there were a number of clouds

8342
05:54:36,350 --> 05:54:32,940
marching along in the sky one cloud in

8343
05:54:38,930 --> 05:54:36,360
particular Drew my attention it had the

8344
05:54:41,930 --> 05:54:38,940
shape of a derby hat

8345
05:54:46,570 --> 05:54:41,940
essentially a large Dome probably five

8346
05:54:49,970 --> 05:54:46,580
or six stories tall and sitting on a

8347
05:54:52,250 --> 05:54:49,980
cloudy looking plate but what Drew my

8348
05:54:56,270 --> 05:54:52,260
attention was that on either side of the

8349
05:55:00,410 --> 05:54:56,280
Dome jutting out at equal angles were

8350
05:55:02,810 --> 05:55:00,420
these two vaporous horns or jets

8351
05:55:05,150 --> 05:55:02,820
they weren't moving or anything they

8352
05:55:08,030 --> 05:55:05,160
were just Frozen vapor

8353
05:55:09,770 --> 05:55:08,040
uh and there was something about the

8354
05:55:13,070 --> 05:55:09,780
symmetrical

8355
05:55:17,570 --> 05:55:13,080
look of the cloud that captivated me so

8356
05:55:20,770 --> 05:55:17,580
I was watching it and as I watched it

8357
05:55:25,548 --> 05:55:20,780
my eyes went to a small black object

8358
05:55:28,670 --> 05:55:25,558
about the size of a helicopter

8359
05:55:30,410 --> 05:55:28,680
that looked like an oblong pill I

8360
05:55:32,570 --> 05:55:30,420
remember at the time thinking it looked

8361
05:55:34,788 --> 05:55:32,580
like a Time release capsule except it

8362
05:55:37,548 --> 05:55:34,798
was shorter

8363
05:55:41,090 --> 05:55:37,558
and I asked myself what is that

8364
05:55:43,788 --> 05:55:41,100
and my mind did what exactly the Navy

8365
05:55:45,350 --> 05:55:43,798
female pilot years later who observed a

8366
05:55:47,868 --> 05:55:45,360
Tic Tac did

8367
05:55:51,650 --> 05:55:47,878
I kept trying to pattern match it with

8368
05:55:53,690 --> 05:55:51,660
something I recognized I asked is that a

8369
05:55:55,670 --> 05:55:53,700
helicopter but of course a helicopter

8370
05:55:57,288 --> 05:55:55,680
can't fly that high they don't

8371
05:55:59,628 --> 05:55:57,298
pressurize them

8372
05:56:01,368 --> 05:55:59,638
then I thought is that a small plane but

8373
05:56:04,010 --> 05:56:01,378
it had no wings

8374
05:56:07,070 --> 05:56:04,020
you know portholes no external engines

8375
05:56:10,610 --> 05:56:07,080
it was just a black hobling oblong

8376
05:56:13,270 --> 05:56:10,620
approximately the size of a helicopter

8377
05:56:16,128 --> 05:56:13,280
the small helicopter I guess

8378
05:56:18,410 --> 05:56:16,138
uh and it seemed to be passing in front

8379
05:56:21,288 --> 05:56:18,420
of this cloud or approaching it it was

8380
05:56:24,410 --> 05:56:21,298
not moving very quickly normally when I

8381
05:56:26,810 --> 05:56:24,420
see a small plane flying when I fly

8382
05:56:30,288 --> 05:56:26,820
commercial the small plane moves pretty

8383
05:56:32,570 --> 05:56:30,298
fast this was loafing along a little

8384
05:56:34,548 --> 05:56:32,580
like a blimp but they don't make blimps

8385
05:56:38,930 --> 05:56:34,558
that are pressurized and even if they

8386
05:56:42,110 --> 05:56:38,940
did I suppose it would still need some

8387
05:56:44,810 --> 05:56:42,120
externals to make it look like a blimp

8388
05:56:46,490 --> 05:56:44,820
I watched this object for approximately

8389
05:56:48,948 --> 05:56:46,500
a minute or so

8390
05:56:51,890 --> 05:56:48,958
and even though I had

8391
05:56:52,990 --> 05:56:51,900
a cell phone in my pocket I didn't think

8392
05:56:55,970 --> 05:56:53,000
to

8393
05:56:59,030 --> 05:56:55,980
pull it out and take a picture that's

8394
05:57:00,708 --> 05:56:59,040
how quickly it happened

8395
05:57:03,830 --> 05:57:00,718
and

8396
05:57:05,930 --> 05:57:03,840
once we pass the object

8397
05:57:08,628 --> 05:57:05,940
I kept asking himself well what was that

8398
05:57:10,910 --> 05:57:08,638
now I've had an interest in UFOs since

8399
05:57:13,430 --> 05:57:10,920
the 1960s it's been an on and off

8400
05:57:15,708 --> 05:57:13,440
interest and I've always wanted to see

8401
05:57:18,590 --> 05:57:15,718
one and even though apparently I did see

8402
05:57:20,770 --> 05:57:18,600
one it was several days before I decided

8403
05:57:23,750 --> 05:57:20,780
in my mind yeah that's what it had to be

8404
05:57:25,310 --> 05:57:23,760
some kind of unidentified flying object

8405
05:57:29,930 --> 05:57:25,320
because it didn't look like anything

8406
05:57:32,570 --> 05:57:29,940
that should be up at 35 000 feet or so

8407
05:57:34,970 --> 05:57:32,580
I should mention that a few years a very

8408
05:57:37,970 --> 05:57:34,980
few years before this I had trained with

8409
05:57:40,970 --> 05:57:37,980
Dr David Morehouse in remote viewing and

8410
05:57:44,150 --> 05:57:40,980
he ran us against some targets of this

8411
05:57:46,010 --> 05:57:44,160
type which awakened or reawakened my

8412
05:57:46,970 --> 05:57:46,020
interest in the summit a little but I

8413
05:57:50,690 --> 05:57:46,980
don't think there's any connection

8414
05:57:53,990 --> 05:57:50,700
between the two events

8415
05:57:56,690 --> 05:57:54,000
how I feel about it now is that I

8416
05:57:58,430 --> 05:57:56,700
clearly saw a Tic Tac even though the

8417
05:58:01,310 --> 05:57:58,440
Tic Tacs weren't in the public

8418
05:58:04,788 --> 05:58:01,320
Consciousness at that time and I would

8419
05:58:08,090 --> 05:58:04,798
think I was confused because I thought

8420
05:58:12,830 --> 05:58:08,100
the UFO shapes typically were

8421
05:58:15,890 --> 05:58:12,840
saucer or spherical or or egg-shaped

8422
05:58:18,110 --> 05:58:15,900
or cigar shaped and I'd never

8423
05:58:21,830 --> 05:58:18,120
I don't recall ever reading about one

8424
05:58:22,548 --> 05:58:21,840
that was pill shaped but here it was I

8425
05:58:27,590 --> 05:58:22,558
think

8426
05:58:31,070 --> 05:58:27,600
in my mind at the time and now to this

8427
05:58:33,230 --> 05:58:31,080
day I associate the black object with

8428
05:58:35,930 --> 05:58:33,240
the cloud as if there was a connection

8429
05:58:38,628 --> 05:58:35,940
with it this may be a bit of intuition I

8430
05:58:42,048 --> 05:58:38,638
don't know it may be imagination

8431
05:58:46,128 --> 05:58:42,058
but it seemed to me that the black pill

8432
05:58:48,788 --> 05:58:46,138
was moving or gravitating toward the

8433
05:58:51,170 --> 05:58:48,798
cloud as if

8434
05:58:54,048 --> 05:58:51,180
there was something inside it it wanted

8435
05:58:56,570 --> 05:58:54,058
to connect with or it wanted to hide in

8436
05:58:58,910 --> 05:58:56,580
it or something one could use their

8437
05:59:01,430 --> 05:58:58,920
imagination and say well maybe there's a

8438
05:59:04,190 --> 05:59:01,440
large ship larger ship inside the cloud

8439
05:59:07,730 --> 05:59:04,200
and the cloud is has that shape

8440
05:59:10,548 --> 05:59:07,740
to to Market as a unusual Cloud to the

8441
05:59:12,410 --> 05:59:10,558
black object could find it but I would

8442
05:59:14,990 --> 05:59:12,420
think any advanced

8443
05:59:17,990 --> 05:59:15,000
craft at that time wouldn't need such a

8444
05:59:21,470 --> 05:59:18,000
visual identification but nevertheless

8445
05:59:23,750 --> 05:59:21,480
I connect the cloud with the object in a

8446
05:59:27,110 --> 05:59:23,760
way I can't fully explain and certainly

8447
05:59:29,690 --> 05:59:27,120
can't verify except it was the cloud and

8448
05:59:35,990 --> 05:59:29,700
its unusual configuration that first

8449
05:59:41,990 --> 05:59:37,970
hey Ryan and this somewhere in the skies

8450
05:59:45,948 --> 05:59:42,000
podcast my name is John and I am excited

8451
05:59:48,708 --> 05:59:45,958
to finally detail a couple of incidents

8452
05:59:50,990 --> 05:59:48,718
for you all I know time is limited so

8453
05:59:55,970 --> 05:59:51,000
I'll try to make it quick

8454
05:59:59,810 --> 05:59:55,980
so I was 18 in 1985 living in Angel fire

8455
06:00:04,788 --> 05:59:59,820
in New Mexico the Moreno Valley and it's

8456
06:00:08,208 --> 06:00:04,798
a North to South Valley with the tallest

8457
06:00:11,930 --> 06:00:08,218
mountain in New Mexico Wheeler Peak uh

8458
06:00:13,750 --> 06:00:11,940
looming over it I was on top of the

8459
06:00:16,310 --> 06:00:13,760
Angel Fire Ski Area

8460
06:00:17,930 --> 06:00:16,320
uh basically staying overnight camping

8461
06:00:20,868 --> 06:00:17,940
had a fire with a good friend of mine

8462
06:00:22,490 --> 06:00:20,878
and we were watching satellites and you

8463
06:00:24,170 --> 06:00:22,500
know a lot less satellites in the 80s

8464
06:00:26,270 --> 06:00:24,180
but you know watching satellites and

8465
06:00:29,208 --> 06:00:26,280
stuff fly overhead and just kind of

8466
06:00:31,430 --> 06:00:29,218
enjoying a super late evening uh you

8467
06:00:34,730 --> 06:00:31,440
know out in the Mountain Air and we saw

8468
06:00:39,110 --> 06:00:34,740
a very bright light across the uh Valley

8469
06:00:41,090 --> 06:00:39,120
from us and uh it was you know hugging

8470
06:00:43,610 --> 06:00:41,100
the mountain and sometimes would go

8471
06:00:45,890 --> 06:00:43,620
behind some of the Peaks and then pop

8472
06:00:47,570 --> 06:00:45,900
back up so we would sort of go in and

8473
06:00:50,150 --> 06:00:47,580
out but it wasn't like zooming around

8474
06:00:51,890 --> 06:00:50,160
and doing anything incredible so you

8475
06:00:54,110 --> 06:00:51,900
know we couldn't make out what it was it

8476
06:00:56,510 --> 06:00:54,120
was just a bright light and it seemed to

8477
06:00:58,190 --> 06:00:56,520
be kind of you know cruising around in

8478
06:01:00,048 --> 06:00:58,200
an area so we thought at first maybe

8479
06:01:02,090 --> 06:01:00,058
it's a helicopter looking for a lost

8480
06:01:03,890 --> 06:01:02,100
hiker or something but it kept sort of

8481
06:01:07,310 --> 06:01:03,900
going south towards where the Paulo

8482
06:01:09,830 --> 06:01:07,320
flacciado pass comes over from Taos and

8483
06:01:11,628 --> 06:01:09,840
uh you know it got to almost directly

8484
06:01:13,910 --> 06:01:11,638
across from us which I would imagine is

8485
06:01:15,590 --> 06:01:13,920
about two and a half to three miles from

8486
06:01:17,868 --> 06:01:15,600
my location

8487
06:01:20,090 --> 06:01:17,878
um and then also it just stopped moving

8488
06:01:22,070 --> 06:01:20,100
shot straight up into the sky way higher

8489
06:01:25,430 --> 06:01:22,080
than the mountains and then immediately

8490
06:01:27,890 --> 06:01:25,440
took off to the uh to the south in a

8491
06:01:30,048 --> 06:01:27,900
blink of an eye I mean we're talking you

8492
06:01:32,090 --> 06:01:30,058
know thousands of miles an hour I mean I

8493
06:01:34,730 --> 06:01:32,100
I have no idea how fast it was going but

8494
06:01:36,708 --> 06:01:34,740
it was gone

8495
06:01:38,750 --> 06:01:36,718
um and my friend and I freaked out of

8496
06:01:40,670 --> 06:01:38,760
course got in our Blazer and started you

8497
06:01:42,530 --> 06:01:40,680
know barreling down the mountain scared

8498
06:01:43,970 --> 06:01:42,540
to death because we were sure oh God you

8499
06:01:47,690 --> 06:01:43,980
know this thing's gonna come back what

8500
06:01:49,368 --> 06:01:47,700
is it it's a UFO but oh oops I forgot

8501
06:01:52,190 --> 06:01:49,378
the most important part of the story so

8502
06:01:55,610 --> 06:01:52,200
so we see the things zip off gone it's

8503
06:01:58,430 --> 06:01:55,620
gone to the South and then

8504
06:02:00,310 --> 06:01:58,440
um we see two lights the very north of

8505
06:02:03,350 --> 06:02:00,320
the valley flashing and they're coming

8506
06:02:05,830 --> 06:02:03,360
very fast in our Direction and all of a

8507
06:02:08,330 --> 06:02:05,840
sudden we hear the jet noise

8508
06:02:10,128 --> 06:02:08,340
and they must have been f-16s because

8509
06:02:13,548 --> 06:02:10,138
they they had full afterburners they

8510
06:02:15,770 --> 06:02:13,558
only had one jet engine and they were

8511
06:02:17,750 --> 06:02:15,780
hauling from the north in the direction

8512
06:02:20,090 --> 06:02:17,760
that's like two three in the morning

8513
06:02:23,270 --> 06:02:20,100
very loud must have woke up the whole

8514
06:02:25,788 --> 06:02:23,280
valley rages through the valley in the

8515
06:02:29,510 --> 06:02:25,798
direction of this craft but the craft is

8516
06:02:31,490 --> 06:02:29,520
long long gone so my friend who was with

8517
06:02:32,868 --> 06:02:31,500
me his parents were divorced he was

8518
06:02:35,990 --> 06:02:32,878
living there with his mother in Angel

8519
06:02:37,788 --> 06:02:36,000
Fire but his dad uh was an air force uh

8520
06:02:40,910 --> 06:02:37,798
I don't know Colonel or something but he

8521
06:02:42,350 --> 06:02:40,920
worked in uh in the Air Force and uh he

8522
06:02:44,868 --> 06:02:42,360
did um

8523
06:02:47,750 --> 06:02:44,878
it wasn't SR-71 but he did some sort of

8524
06:02:49,850 --> 06:02:47,760
test piloting stuff and so he went to go

8525
06:02:52,190 --> 06:02:49,860
visit his dad and he told him about our

8526
06:02:55,070 --> 06:02:52,200
siding and asked his dad about it and

8527
06:02:57,530 --> 06:02:55,080
his dad just was like very deadpan and

8528
06:03:00,650 --> 06:02:57,540
was like son you're not crazy you saw

8529
06:03:02,690 --> 06:03:00,660
what you saw this is the most highly uh

8530
06:03:04,128 --> 06:03:02,700
secret uh held secret in the entire

8531
06:03:07,070 --> 06:03:04,138
military and I don't want you to ever

8532
06:03:09,110 --> 06:03:07,080
talk about it again and so uh to this

8533
06:03:10,610 --> 06:03:09,120
day when I talk about it with him he

8534
06:03:12,350 --> 06:03:10,620
gets really cagey he doesn't like to

8535
06:03:15,230 --> 06:03:12,360
talk about it

8536
06:03:18,170 --> 06:03:15,240
um uh you know and that's that was my

8537
06:03:21,288 --> 06:03:18,180
first interaction with a uh with a UFO

8538
06:03:23,690 --> 06:03:21,298
uh that I saw and it was being trailed

8539
06:03:25,970 --> 06:03:23,700
by Air Force jets so you know here I am

8540
06:03:29,628 --> 06:03:25,980
18 years old and this

8541
06:03:32,810 --> 06:03:29,638
situation really blew my mind I mean I

8542
06:03:35,410 --> 06:03:32,820
didn't know what to make of it except

8543
06:03:37,490 --> 06:03:35,420
that it pretty clearly in my mind

8544
06:03:40,250 --> 06:03:37,500
created uh

8545
06:03:43,250 --> 06:03:40,260
the thought that okay well a UFOs are

8546
06:03:45,350 --> 06:03:43,260
real B the government obviously knows

8547
06:03:47,750 --> 06:03:45,360
about them because you know and they can

8548
06:03:50,390 --> 06:03:47,760
track them on radar because those Jets

8549
06:03:52,730 --> 06:03:50,400
never physically saw the craft because

8550
06:03:54,590 --> 06:03:52,740
they never got close enough it was long

8551
06:03:56,930 --> 06:03:54,600
gone before they came in so that means

8552
06:03:59,090 --> 06:03:56,940
they had to be tracking it on radar and

8553
06:04:00,948 --> 06:03:59,100
had to be vectored in to the very

8554
06:04:03,170 --> 06:04:00,958
location so it made me know okay not

8555
06:04:05,150 --> 06:04:03,180
only can we track the UFOs to the

8556
06:04:07,548 --> 06:04:05,160
military chase them but they were

8557
06:04:09,530 --> 06:04:07,558
outclassed by them obviously I mean they

8558
06:04:11,810 --> 06:04:09,540
were completely outclassed and the

8559
06:04:15,170 --> 06:04:11,820
government is hiding this

8560
06:04:18,410 --> 06:04:15,180
so that was the start for me when I was

8561
06:04:20,448 --> 06:04:18,420
18 realizing okay wow UFO's real the

8562
06:04:24,048 --> 06:04:20,458
government knows it's a cover-up the

8563
06:04:26,690 --> 06:04:24,058
military you know is is outmatched so I

8564
06:04:30,288 --> 06:04:26,700
went to the University of New Mexico and

8565
06:04:32,810 --> 06:04:30,298
I started uh going to the library and I

8566
06:04:35,690 --> 06:04:32,820
started studying the phenomena the Blue

8567
06:04:37,910 --> 06:04:35,700
Book files the old Stringfield files you

8568
06:04:39,770 --> 06:04:37,920
know Stanton Freeman the Roswell stuff I

8569
06:04:41,570 --> 06:04:39,780
mean I started getting deep deep down

8570
06:04:43,548 --> 06:04:41,580
this rabbit hole but I was started

8571
06:04:45,590 --> 06:04:43,558
learning early on you know wow you know

8572
06:04:47,270 --> 06:04:45,600
there's such a crazy stigma to this you

8573
06:04:49,128 --> 06:04:47,280
can't talk to anybody about it because

8574
06:04:51,708 --> 06:04:49,138
when I would bring it up to anybody

8575
06:04:53,690 --> 06:04:51,718
friends family they would just think I

8576
06:04:55,430 --> 06:04:53,700
was crazy or making it up or and they

8577
06:04:57,048 --> 06:04:55,440
just [\h__\h] on me so I was like okay I

8578
06:04:59,510 --> 06:04:57,058
can't really talk to anyone about this

8579
06:05:01,610 --> 06:04:59,520
but I gotta figure this out so I started

8580
06:05:03,650 --> 06:05:01,620
going and doing lots of research at the

8581
06:05:06,170 --> 06:05:03,660
library and started realizing that

8582
06:05:08,750 --> 06:05:06,180
anyone who got too close died by

8583
06:05:10,548 --> 06:05:08,760
mysterious circumstances so when I

8584
06:05:13,010 --> 06:05:10,558
started learning that people who got too

8585
06:05:15,590 --> 06:05:13,020
close to the UFO topic and got really

8586
06:05:17,750 --> 06:05:15,600
deep in there we're getting suicided or

8587
06:05:20,390 --> 06:05:17,760
you know mysterious car crashes and this

8588
06:05:22,010 --> 06:05:20,400
and that I became very nervous about

8589
06:05:25,070 --> 06:05:22,020
what I knew

8590
06:05:26,930 --> 06:05:25,080
um who I could talk to about it and so I

8591
06:05:29,448 --> 06:05:26,940
was very apprehensive and would not

8592
06:05:31,010 --> 06:05:29,458
speak to very many people about it I was

8593
06:05:33,288 --> 06:05:31,020
very nervous if I went to any kind of

8594
06:05:34,910 --> 06:05:33,298
UFO conferences about just starting up

8595
06:05:37,730 --> 06:05:34,920
conversations with people because I

8596
06:05:38,470 --> 06:05:37,740
wasn't sure who was legit and who was a

8597
06:05:41,510 --> 06:05:38,480
plant

8598
06:05:45,048 --> 06:05:41,520
so then I got married in the mid 90s 95

8599
06:05:46,970 --> 06:05:45,058
and uh I had known my my wife all

8600
06:05:49,010 --> 06:05:46,980
through high school so

8601
06:05:51,230 --> 06:05:49,020
we're together and I start telling her

8602
06:05:52,970 --> 06:05:51,240
my UFO story now I've seen a few other

8603
06:05:55,250 --> 06:05:52,980
things a couple other incidents over the

8604
06:05:57,470 --> 06:05:55,260
years that we won't go into here but

8605
06:05:59,510 --> 06:05:57,480
so I'm bringing these up to her and you

8606
06:06:01,910 --> 06:05:59,520
know typical people think you're crazy

8607
06:06:04,910 --> 06:06:01,920
and she's like yeah yeah you saw UFO

8608
06:06:06,650 --> 06:06:04,920
okay I'm sure yeah right and uh so she

8609
06:06:08,270 --> 06:06:06,660
never really believed me and so I was

8610
06:06:11,208 --> 06:06:08,280
always like you know this really sucks

8611
06:06:15,048 --> 06:06:11,218
even my wife who loves me and trusts me

8612
06:06:17,628 --> 06:06:15,058
doesn't believe me I mean this sucks and

8613
06:06:21,650 --> 06:06:17,638
so then we saw an orb together like a

8614
06:06:23,030 --> 06:06:21,660
white egg shaped uh UFO flying across

8615
06:06:25,910 --> 06:06:23,040
the sky

8616
06:06:27,590 --> 06:06:25,920
um south or north of Santa Fe and we

8617
06:06:29,570 --> 06:06:27,600
were driving in the car heading to Taos

8618
06:06:31,850 --> 06:06:29,580
and I saw this thing and it was coming

8619
06:06:34,310 --> 06:06:31,860
it had was coming from the Los Alamos

8620
06:06:35,750 --> 06:06:34,320
area it was hauling ass maybe about four

8621
06:06:39,590 --> 06:06:35,760
or five hundred miles an hour so pretty

8622
06:06:41,628 --> 06:06:39,600
damn fast you know maybe 1500 to 2 000

8623
06:06:43,610 --> 06:06:41,638
feet up not very high we were watching

8624
06:06:45,530 --> 06:06:43,620
it watching it I'm driving and then she

8625
06:06:47,690 --> 06:06:45,540
sees it just disappear I look back it's

8626
06:06:50,150 --> 06:06:47,700
gone and that was the first one that she

8627
06:06:52,610 --> 06:06:50,160
kind of saw but once again it was just a

8628
06:06:53,990 --> 06:06:52,620
white thing in the sky hauling ass and

8629
06:06:55,788 --> 06:06:54,000
then it disappeared so we're like well

8630
06:06:57,410 --> 06:06:55,798
maybe it was a balloon maybe it was a

8631
06:06:59,448 --> 06:06:57,420
balloon and it popped uh maybe it was

8632
06:07:01,190 --> 06:06:59,458
this she was like well I saw it take off

8633
06:07:04,128 --> 06:07:01,200
but I you know I don't know what I saw

8634
06:07:06,708 --> 06:07:04,138
so this wasn't enough for her to be like

8635
06:07:08,208 --> 06:07:06,718
okay confirmation I saw something so it

8636
06:07:13,548 --> 06:07:08,218
was more like well that was weird but

8637
06:07:14,990 --> 06:07:13,558
whatever so then January of 1997 and so

8638
06:07:18,530 --> 06:07:15,000
this to me connects to the Phoenix

8639
06:07:21,590 --> 06:07:18,540
Lights because Taos New Mexico is not as

8640
06:07:23,090 --> 06:07:21,600
a UFO flies very far from where the

8641
06:07:27,590 --> 06:07:23,100
Phoenix light sightings were those were

8642
06:07:29,448 --> 06:07:27,600
in March so I'm talking late January in

8643
06:07:31,910 --> 06:07:29,458
the twi I don't know maybe the 27th-ish

8644
06:07:34,010 --> 06:07:31,920
around there a week before the Winter X

8645
06:07:37,490 --> 06:07:34,020
Games because that's where I was headed

8646
06:07:40,310 --> 06:07:37,500
we see in Taos New Mexico a very bright

8647
06:07:43,910 --> 06:07:40,320
light come around Taos Mountain uh it

8648
06:07:46,010 --> 06:07:43,920
was night time but it was dusk so that

8649
06:07:49,010 --> 06:07:46,020
in the west there was still light in the

8650
06:07:51,470 --> 06:07:49,020
sky so you can see the outlines of the

8651
06:07:53,270 --> 06:07:51,480
the mountains and you know clouds in the

8652
06:07:56,570 --> 06:07:53,280
distance whatever but directly over me

8653
06:07:59,090 --> 06:07:56,580
pitch black stars but you could see the

8654
06:08:01,850 --> 06:07:59,100
outline of Taos mountain and lower than

8655
06:08:03,890 --> 06:08:01,860
the mountain so it had to be around 2500

8656
06:08:05,510 --> 06:08:03,900
feet up I mean it was not higher than

8657
06:08:08,208 --> 06:08:05,520
the mountain it came around the mountain

8658
06:08:09,590 --> 06:08:08,218
was this very bright light and my wife's

8659
06:08:11,510 --> 06:08:09,600
in the car with me and I had a video

8660
06:08:13,368 --> 06:08:11,520
camera with me and I'm like oh my God

8661
06:08:15,470 --> 06:08:13,378
what is that thing what is that let's

8662
06:08:16,850 --> 06:08:15,480
look at it so we keep driving towards

8663
06:08:19,070 --> 06:08:16,860
our house which we're getting closer and

8664
06:08:20,750 --> 06:08:19,080
closer in El Prado New Mexico and it's

8665
06:08:22,070 --> 06:08:20,760
coming right towards us and there's a

8666
06:08:23,810 --> 06:08:22,080
lot of cars on the street I mean other

8667
06:08:26,090 --> 06:08:23,820
people no one seems to be noticing this

8668
06:08:28,250 --> 06:08:26,100
thing it's just a bright light it's

8669
06:08:29,868 --> 06:08:28,260
there's no shape And I'm like what is

8670
06:08:32,868 --> 06:08:29,878
this thing it's coming right at us and

8671
06:08:36,590 --> 06:08:32,878
so pull off the road into my driveway a

8672
06:08:39,470 --> 06:08:36,600
jump out like grab my video camera turn

8673
06:08:41,868 --> 06:08:39,480
it on and burn battery's dead freaking

8674
06:08:43,548 --> 06:08:41,878
dies you know it's dead so I don't get

8675
06:08:46,850 --> 06:08:43,558
anything on the camera and then I look

8676
06:08:49,910 --> 06:08:46,860
up my wife's right there and

8677
06:08:51,650 --> 06:08:49,920
flying above us is the biggest

8678
06:08:56,208 --> 06:08:51,660
freaking thing I've ever seen in my life

8679
06:08:58,490 --> 06:08:56,218
I mean it was so huge I mean it was at

8680
06:09:01,490 --> 06:08:58,500
least like three aircraft you know like

8681
06:09:04,310 --> 06:09:01,500
carriers I mean it was giant it blocked

8682
06:09:07,970 --> 06:09:04,320
out the stars as it went overhead

8683
06:09:10,610 --> 06:09:07,980
I was mesmerized looking directly up

8684
06:09:13,730 --> 06:09:10,620
into the bottom of this craft which was

8685
06:09:16,368 --> 06:09:13,740
just like warping lights colorful kind

8686
06:09:18,350 --> 06:09:16,378
of Rainbow Lights it looked like you

8687
06:09:20,990 --> 06:09:18,360
know the heat shimmering coming off of a

8688
06:09:22,310 --> 06:09:21,000
hot cement so the heat was shimmering so

8689
06:09:24,948 --> 06:09:22,320
the lights were shimmering and I was

8690
06:09:26,570 --> 06:09:24,958
just like like aghast as this thing

8691
06:09:29,330 --> 06:09:26,580
blocked out the sky as it went

8692
06:09:31,850 --> 06:09:29,340
completely over our head silent as the

8693
06:09:34,730 --> 06:09:31,860
night went right over our head and then

8694
06:09:36,230 --> 06:09:34,740
kept going over towards Taos Pueblo and

8695
06:09:38,270 --> 06:09:36,240
over the mountain so I'm like oh my God

8696
06:09:40,610 --> 06:09:38,280
oh my God you saw that you saw that and

8697
06:09:42,530 --> 06:09:40,620
then all of a sudden we hear and coming

8698
06:09:44,868 --> 06:09:42,540
up behind it come in the same basic

8699
06:09:47,090 --> 06:09:44,878
Direction two more fighter jets

8700
06:09:50,330 --> 06:09:47,100
and they're following it but this giant

8701
06:09:52,548 --> 06:09:50,340
thing is not going very fast it's not

8702
06:09:55,010 --> 06:09:52,558
trying to escape it's not accelerating

8703
06:09:57,170 --> 06:09:55,020
away it's just staying on its same

8704
06:09:59,810 --> 06:09:57,180
trajectory at its same path and these

8705
06:10:01,190 --> 06:09:59,820
fighter jets go right over us loud and

8706
06:10:03,470 --> 06:10:01,200
they're heading towards it but they're

8707
06:10:04,910 --> 06:10:03,480
catching it so they peel off because

8708
06:10:06,590 --> 06:10:04,920
they they didn't want to like overtake

8709
06:10:08,570 --> 06:10:06,600
it it seemed they didn't want to fly

8710
06:10:11,208 --> 06:10:08,580
over it or catch it so they kind of

8711
06:10:12,708 --> 06:10:11,218
peeled off and then both the Jets and

8712
06:10:15,350 --> 06:10:12,718
the thing went over the mountain and we

8713
06:10:18,350 --> 06:10:15,360
couldn't see them anymore and I was just

8714
06:10:22,310 --> 06:10:18,360
shocked and dismayed and so excited that

8715
06:10:25,010 --> 06:10:22,320
I had seen it with my wife I was more

8716
06:10:28,190 --> 06:10:25,020
like oh my God see look I'm not crazy

8717
06:10:31,430 --> 06:10:28,200
I'm not crazy with her then I was even

8718
06:10:33,708 --> 06:10:31,440
like Blown Away by what I had seen now I

8719
06:10:36,470 --> 06:10:33,718
pictured it as a triangle but I wasn't

8720
06:10:39,590 --> 06:10:36,480
really looking at the details of the

8721
06:10:41,868 --> 06:10:39,600
shape I was mesmerized by the lights

8722
06:10:43,670 --> 06:10:41,878
underneath and just the size and the

8723
06:10:45,948 --> 06:10:43,680
quiet it was so quiet as it went over

8724
06:10:47,690 --> 06:10:45,958
but my wife said she was actually

8725
06:10:49,190 --> 06:10:47,700
looking end to end trying to figure out

8726
06:10:51,650 --> 06:10:49,200
how big it was and what the shape was

8727
06:10:55,610 --> 06:10:51,660
she said it seemed like a giant

8728
06:10:57,530 --> 06:10:55,620
Boomerang but possibly triangle but a

8729
06:10:59,330 --> 06:10:57,540
month and a half later when the you know

8730
06:11:01,910 --> 06:10:59,340
Phoenix lights went off I mean we both

8731
06:11:04,670 --> 06:11:01,920
were like oh my God that's exactly what

8732
06:11:06,830 --> 06:11:04,680
we saw so I don't know if it's a

8733
06:11:09,110 --> 06:11:06,840
precursor to the Phoenix Lights I don't

8734
06:11:13,010 --> 06:11:09,120
know if it was the same craft or what

8735
06:11:15,410 --> 06:11:13,020
but it was giant it was quiet it was

8736
06:11:17,868 --> 06:11:15,420
triangular or Boomer shaped

8737
06:11:19,548 --> 06:11:17,878
um you could have landed freaking

8738
06:11:22,070 --> 06:11:19,558
airplanes on the top of this I mean it

8739
06:11:22,850 --> 06:11:22,080
was so huge so

8740
06:11:26,270 --> 06:11:22,860
um

8741
06:11:29,510 --> 06:11:26,280
that is my the basics of my my two big

8742
06:11:31,730 --> 06:11:29,520
stories that include uh fighter jets

8743
06:11:33,890 --> 06:11:31,740
um you know only one of them had any

8744
06:11:35,750 --> 06:11:33,900
kind of acceleration or what would Lou

8745
06:11:38,448 --> 06:11:35,760
would call the five observables my first

8746
06:11:40,610 --> 06:11:38,458
one in 85 that's kicked it all off but

8747
06:11:43,190 --> 06:11:40,620
uh these things are flying around out

8748
06:11:45,230 --> 06:11:43,200
there our military is aware of them

8749
06:11:48,530 --> 06:11:45,240
um we it you know to me there's not an

8750
06:11:51,048 --> 06:11:48,540
issue of proof or belief I've seen this

8751
06:11:53,030 --> 06:11:51,058
stuff so you know I know it's real

8752
06:11:57,048 --> 06:11:53,040
um I've spoken to many people since then

8753
06:11:59,448 --> 06:11:57,058
uh you know I have spoken to researchers

8754
06:12:01,788 --> 06:11:59,458
I've spoken to David fraver I've spoken

8755
06:12:03,708 --> 06:12:01,798
to at you know many other military

8756
06:12:05,868 --> 06:12:03,718
Pilots

8757
06:12:08,330 --> 06:12:05,878
um this is way more common than people

8758
06:12:10,970 --> 06:12:08,340
have ever known best kept secret on the

8759
06:12:14,090 --> 06:12:10,980
planet and thank you Ryan and your

8760
06:12:16,310 --> 06:12:14,100
podcast listeners for uh listening and

8761
06:12:19,128 --> 06:12:16,320
um you know I have lots of other

8762
06:12:21,650 --> 06:12:19,138
interesting stuff but those are the two

8763
06:12:23,510 --> 06:12:21,660
big ones uh that I thought I would share

8764
06:12:26,570 --> 06:12:23,520
with your listeners so thank you Ryan

8765
06:12:28,310 --> 06:12:26,580
and thank you listeners keep the faith

8766
06:12:31,190 --> 06:12:28,320
and quit fighting out there on Twitter

8767
06:12:33,030 --> 06:12:31,200
let's keep our [\h__\h] together and uh

8768
06:12:34,850 --> 06:12:33,040
let's get this solved

8769
06:12:37,910 --> 06:12:34,860
[Music]

8770
06:12:39,230 --> 06:12:37,920
my name is Casey my Twitter is at

8771
06:12:40,930 --> 06:12:39,240
villian

8772
06:12:44,390 --> 06:12:40,940
in July of

8773
06:12:46,850 --> 06:12:44,400
2013 right around 4th of July time frame

8774
06:12:50,090 --> 06:12:46,860
I worked for the Indianapolis Museum of

8775
06:12:52,788 --> 06:12:50,100
Art as a campus police officer

8776
06:12:55,128 --> 06:12:52,798
at around three o'clock in the morning I

8777
06:12:58,548 --> 06:12:55,138
was dispatched along with my partner to

8778
06:13:01,610 --> 06:12:58,558
go check out some residential areas

8779
06:13:03,288 --> 06:13:01,620
known as The Golden Hill Estates it was

8780
06:13:05,990 --> 06:13:03,298
a site we had to check out pretty much

8781
06:13:08,990 --> 06:13:06,000
nightly to make sure there was no

8782
06:13:11,330 --> 06:13:09,000
activity going on

8783
06:13:15,708 --> 06:13:11,340
my partner and I split up to come around

8784
06:13:18,048 --> 06:13:15,718
a park and meet back at the curve where

8785
06:13:22,430 --> 06:13:18,058
kind of forks in the road

8786
06:13:24,650 --> 06:13:22,440
when we got there at a house that was at

8787
06:13:27,650 --> 06:13:24,660
a mansion that was undergoing

8788
06:13:33,830 --> 06:13:31,548
there were two small craft probably five

8789
06:13:37,788 --> 06:13:33,840
feet in diameter

8790
06:13:39,610 --> 06:13:37,798
two to three feet tall kind of resembled

8791
06:13:51,890 --> 06:13:39,620
a

8792
06:13:55,730 --> 06:13:51,900
um

8793
06:13:59,270 --> 06:13:55,740
they were hovering uh just motionless

8794
06:14:02,690 --> 06:13:59,280
about two to three feet off the ground

8795
06:14:05,448 --> 06:14:02,700
when we came up at which point then they

8796
06:14:07,910 --> 06:14:05,458
started floating probably two to three

8797
06:14:10,490 --> 06:14:07,920
seconds after we saw that they started

8798
06:14:11,990 --> 06:14:10,500
floating up

8799
06:14:14,868 --> 06:14:12,000
um

8800
06:14:18,708 --> 06:14:14,878
from there once they got to about 10

8801
06:14:20,208 --> 06:14:18,718
feet maybe the lights kicked on and

8802
06:14:23,090 --> 06:14:20,218
basically the bottom half that looked

8803
06:14:25,970 --> 06:14:23,100
like the paper partition with kind of

8804
06:14:28,850 --> 06:14:25,980
it almost looked like burnt wood

8805
06:14:31,128 --> 06:14:28,860
as the frame

8806
06:14:33,170 --> 06:14:31,138
um that's when the lights kicked on and

8807
06:14:35,390 --> 06:14:33,180
then they started dancing kind of back

8808
06:14:37,430 --> 06:14:35,400
and forth with each other uh they were

8809
06:14:39,708 --> 06:14:37,440
just I don't know how to describe it

8810
06:14:41,750 --> 06:14:39,718
they were moving perfectly in sync with

8811
06:14:43,670 --> 06:14:41,760
each other one would go poor one would

8812
06:14:46,430 --> 06:14:43,680
go starboard and then they'd swing back

8813
06:14:50,030 --> 06:14:46,440
around vice versa kind of dance in front

8814
06:14:50,810 --> 06:14:50,040
of each other and then back to the rear

8815
06:14:53,930 --> 06:14:50,820
um

8816
06:14:58,430 --> 06:14:53,940
then they started moving pretty rapidly

8817
06:15:00,590 --> 06:14:58,440
uh we kind of took off after them out of

8818
06:15:03,770 --> 06:15:00,600
the neighborhood uh then they kind of

8819
06:15:07,850 --> 06:15:03,780
hit straight on Michigan Road a very

8820
06:15:09,170 --> 06:15:07,860
major Road in Indianapolis

8821
06:15:11,570 --> 06:15:09,180
um

8822
06:15:13,250 --> 06:15:11,580
that's a at which point we we lost them

8823
06:15:14,868 --> 06:15:13,260
we didn't see him they they took off

8824
06:15:17,150 --> 06:15:14,878
real fast

8825
06:15:22,850 --> 06:15:17,160
I'm kind of parallel

8826
06:15:23,530 --> 06:15:22,860
with the road not gaining any altitude

8827
06:15:26,930 --> 06:15:23,540
um

8828
06:15:29,628 --> 06:15:26,940
and then that probably three four

8829
06:15:32,930 --> 06:15:29,638
seconds after that about

8830
06:15:35,830 --> 06:15:32,940
maybe five to six miles down Michigan

8831
06:15:39,230 --> 06:15:35,840
road we saw two lights just shoot off

8832
06:15:40,850 --> 06:15:39,240
into space

8833
06:15:43,670 --> 06:15:40,860
um

8834
06:15:46,610 --> 06:15:43,680
the whole ordeal lasted maybe two three

8835
06:15:48,708 --> 06:15:46,620
minutes when I radioed back to dispatch

8836
06:15:50,948 --> 06:15:48,718
they said we had been marked out for

8837
06:15:54,470 --> 06:15:50,958
maybe 20 minutes

8838
06:15:58,128 --> 06:15:54,480
definitely didn't seem like that long

8839
06:15:59,628 --> 06:15:58,138
my initial reaction was to shoot it then

8840
06:16:01,730 --> 06:15:59,638
I was just like

8841
06:16:05,390 --> 06:16:01,740
what am I going to say I'm I'm shooting

8842
06:16:07,190 --> 06:16:05,400
at a balloon a UFO I I don't know what

8843
06:16:10,490 --> 06:16:07,200
this is I'm shooting in a residential

8844
06:16:12,948 --> 06:16:10,500
area at things in the sky like

8845
06:16:14,990 --> 06:16:12,958
so that that quickly left

8846
06:16:17,270 --> 06:16:15,000
um I just got the feeling like you would

8847
06:16:19,368 --> 06:16:17,280
be a laughing stock like that just seems

8848
06:16:20,810 --> 06:16:19,378
ridiculous

8849
06:16:23,510 --> 06:16:20,820
um

8850
06:16:27,470 --> 06:16:23,520
I also got the like in the day sense I

8851
06:16:33,708 --> 06:16:30,770
it would be on the news soon like

8852
06:16:36,890 --> 06:16:33,718
everything would be revealed not to

8853
06:16:38,628 --> 06:16:36,900
worry my partner even called me a couple

8854
06:16:40,910 --> 06:16:38,638
weeks later and was like what do we do

8855
06:16:42,770 --> 06:16:40,920
about it and I was just like I don't

8856
06:16:44,810 --> 06:16:42,780
know so

8857
06:16:47,390 --> 06:16:44,820
let's do nothing pretend it never

8858
06:16:51,110 --> 06:16:47,400
[\h__\h] happened and move on with life

8859
06:16:52,430 --> 06:16:51,120
and that's what I did for several years

8860
06:16:57,590 --> 06:16:52,440
um I lasted on the police department

8861
06:16:59,750 --> 06:16:57,600
about a month after that maybe to

8862
06:17:02,170 --> 06:16:59,760
um from there my life just completely

8863
06:17:05,570 --> 06:17:02,180
changed I am not the same person anymore

8864
06:17:07,368 --> 06:17:05,580
just a completely different person I

8865
06:17:09,948 --> 06:17:07,378
couldn't even relate to the person I

8866
06:17:13,420 --> 06:17:09,958
used to be yeah that's that's all my

8867
06:17:15,770 --> 06:17:13,430
story I'm pretty well open for questions

8868
06:17:19,010 --> 06:17:15,780
[Music]

8869
06:17:21,288 --> 06:17:19,020
hi Ryan and listeners of somewhere in

8870
06:17:25,070 --> 06:17:21,298
the skies podcast my name is Mike

8871
06:17:28,010 --> 06:17:25,080
Jameson and I live in Ukiah California

8872
06:17:30,650 --> 06:17:28,020
there are two uh incidents in recent

8873
06:17:32,810 --> 06:17:30,660
years that I wanted to share

8874
06:17:36,890 --> 06:17:32,820
the first one was

8875
06:17:40,548 --> 06:17:36,900
during April of 2018 I was sitting up

8876
06:17:41,750 --> 06:17:40,558
quietly after midnight by a west facing

8877
06:17:44,030 --> 06:17:41,760
window

8878
06:17:47,510 --> 06:17:44,040
with the blinds up

8879
06:17:50,090 --> 06:17:47,520
suddenly a bright white light blasts

8880
06:17:52,548 --> 06:17:50,100
through the window not a diffuse being

8881
06:17:56,150 --> 06:17:52,558
but thick and concentrated

8882
06:17:58,310 --> 06:17:56,160
there's no possible ground source for

8883
06:18:01,128 --> 06:17:58,320
this light with Rising forest with a

8884
06:18:03,410 --> 06:18:01,138
rising forested Hill to my West only a

8885
06:18:05,930 --> 06:18:03,420
gap in the tall trees

8886
06:18:08,628 --> 06:18:05,940
I get up and look out

8887
06:18:11,390 --> 06:18:08,638
over a tree line behind a lonely house

8888
06:18:14,330 --> 06:18:11,400
in the hill I see from a position to the

8889
06:18:17,330 --> 06:18:14,340
left rear of the scene a large squarish

8890
06:18:20,030 --> 06:18:17,340
backside of a large appearing craft

8891
06:18:23,570 --> 06:18:20,040
silently hovering

8892
06:18:26,750 --> 06:18:23,580
it is completely quiet and still a

8893
06:18:29,330 --> 06:18:26,760
Mumble this isn't normal and don't go

8894
06:18:31,430 --> 06:18:29,340
outside as the craft had already shined

8895
06:18:34,490 --> 06:18:31,440
a light into my place

8896
06:18:37,910 --> 06:18:34,500
I definitely shut down and resumed

8897
06:18:40,610 --> 06:18:37,920
sitting quietly in the chair

8898
06:18:42,530 --> 06:18:40,620
and that incident I kind of kept quiet

8899
06:18:44,868 --> 06:18:42,540
for a couple days shared it with a

8900
06:18:47,330 --> 06:18:44,878
couple of friends asked him if I should

8901
06:18:49,670 --> 06:18:47,340
share it with people and they said no

8902
06:18:50,750 --> 06:18:49,680
but I decided to eventually share it

8903
06:18:54,048 --> 06:18:50,760
publicly

8904
06:18:56,628 --> 06:18:54,058
which I did on social media

8905
06:18:59,090 --> 06:18:56,638
in June of 2020

8906
06:19:01,628 --> 06:18:59,100
one night I was out for a late night

8907
06:19:05,030 --> 06:19:01,638
walk to the river

8908
06:19:09,350 --> 06:19:05,040
I noticed a darkish silver sphere of

8909
06:19:12,650 --> 06:19:09,360
light just hovering over a notch in the

8910
06:19:15,830 --> 06:19:12,660
ridge nearby about two miles away

8911
06:19:18,350 --> 06:19:15,840
the apparent size is a dime at arm's

8912
06:19:23,230 --> 06:19:18,360
length the object

8913
06:19:27,048 --> 06:19:23,240
begins to Dart very rapidly and a

8914
06:19:29,570 --> 06:19:27,058
parent-sized I described as uh at arm's

8915
06:19:31,970 --> 06:19:29,580
length the object begins to Dart very

8916
06:19:35,208 --> 06:19:31,980
rapidly over the area of this Ridge and

8917
06:19:35,868 --> 06:19:35,218
then comes to rest again just above the

8918
06:19:38,570 --> 06:19:35,878
ridge

8919
06:19:41,810 --> 06:19:38,580
and then it slowly ascends at a 45

8920
06:19:43,850 --> 06:19:41,820
degree angle a couple hundred feet up

8921
06:19:46,850 --> 06:19:43,860
and then stops

8922
06:19:49,548 --> 06:19:46,860
after a minute an identical object just

8923
06:19:51,948 --> 06:19:49,558
suddenly appears about a hundred feet to

8924
06:19:53,690 --> 06:19:51,958
the right and a little above of the

8925
06:19:56,390 --> 06:19:53,700
first object

8926
06:20:00,708 --> 06:19:56,400
now I'm completely stunned

8927
06:20:03,770 --> 06:20:00,718
both objects now elegant then elegantly

8928
06:20:05,448 --> 06:20:03,780
descend in Tandem and hover over the

8929
06:20:09,288 --> 06:20:05,458
notch in the ridge

8930
06:20:11,830 --> 06:20:09,298
I get excited raise both arms and think

8931
06:20:13,910 --> 06:20:11,840
loudly come here

8932
06:20:15,410 --> 06:20:13,920
surprisingly they both flare up

8933
06:20:18,288 --> 06:20:15,420
dramatically

8934
06:20:20,208 --> 06:20:18,298
at first it looked like they were edging

8935
06:20:21,470 --> 06:20:20,218
forward but no that's not what was

8936
06:20:24,110 --> 06:20:21,480
happening

8937
06:20:28,430 --> 06:20:24,120
a little bit later the original sphere

8938
06:20:31,970 --> 06:20:28,440
just instantly instantly disappears and

8939
06:20:34,128 --> 06:20:31,980
I see a pencil dot size light manifest

8940
06:20:36,410 --> 06:20:34,138
over a different Ridge to the South a

8941
06:20:39,708 --> 06:20:36,420
few miles further away

8942
06:20:42,470 --> 06:20:39,718
then the second object does this

8943
06:20:46,310 --> 06:20:42,480
very shortly after the first object in

8944
06:20:49,548 --> 06:20:46,320
instantly manifest at The Originals spot

8945
06:20:51,948 --> 06:20:49,558
on the uh Ridge and the second soon

8946
06:20:54,350 --> 06:20:51,958
followed they do this back and forth

8947
06:20:58,548 --> 06:20:54,360
several times spanning a significant

8948
06:21:01,490 --> 06:20:58,558
area evident with my side angle's View

8949
06:21:03,708 --> 06:21:01,500
and then they are gone back home a few

8950
06:21:05,930 --> 06:21:03,718
minutes later I checked Flight Radar 24

8951
06:21:09,048 --> 06:21:05,940
and see nothing in the general region

8952
06:21:11,868 --> 06:21:09,058
this is during a time when the uh nearby

8953
06:21:14,720 --> 06:21:11,878
Ukiah airport was fully closed for

8954
06:21:16,548 --> 06:21:14,730
Runway appears thank you for listening

8955
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[Music]

8956
06:21:20,990 --> 06:21:19,378
hello Ryan my name is Frank

8957
06:21:24,048 --> 06:21:21,000
I'm an attorney from the Philadelphia

8958
06:21:26,288 --> 06:21:24,058
area and my personal encounter with a

8959
06:21:29,460 --> 06:21:26,298
flying vehicle or whatever

8960
06:21:30,590 --> 06:21:29,470
occurred around 1977.

8961
06:21:33,470 --> 06:21:30,600
[Music]

8962
06:21:34,430 --> 06:21:33,480
my rock band was playing in Wildwood New

8963
06:21:37,190 --> 06:21:34,440
Jersey

8964
06:21:39,948 --> 06:21:37,200
in November of that year and we finished

8965
06:21:42,530 --> 06:21:39,958
at 2 A.M

8966
06:21:46,070 --> 06:21:42,540
and my bandmate and I drove back

8967
06:21:48,350 --> 06:21:46,080
from Wildwood New Jersey to Philadelphia

8968
06:21:50,990 --> 06:21:48,360
after we got onto the Atlantic City

8969
06:21:54,110 --> 06:21:51,000
Expressway for a few miles

8970
06:21:55,368 --> 06:21:54,120
we suddenly saw a large black triangular

8971
06:21:57,890 --> 06:21:55,378
something

8972
06:22:02,030 --> 06:21:57,900
floating across the highway

8973
06:22:05,448 --> 06:22:02,040
there's about 75 yards ahead of us

8974
06:22:08,030 --> 06:22:05,458
at that point my car engine ground to a

8975
06:22:12,288 --> 06:22:10,670
it was about 3 A.M and no other cars are

8976
06:22:13,788 --> 06:22:12,298
on either side of the expressway that

8977
06:22:16,128 --> 06:22:13,798
night

8978
06:22:17,810 --> 06:22:16,138
so My Buddy Rich and I jumped out of my

8979
06:22:20,690 --> 06:22:17,820
car and watched this thing literally

8980
06:22:22,970 --> 06:22:20,700
float across the road

8981
06:22:24,650 --> 06:22:22,980
it looked like it was about five miles

8982
06:22:26,390 --> 06:22:24,660
an hour

8983
06:22:29,030 --> 06:22:26,400
it was a light on each point of the

8984
06:22:32,990 --> 06:22:30,890
and then we watched it disappear over

8985
06:22:35,390 --> 06:22:33,000
the tree line at the far Lanes of the

8986
06:22:38,390 --> 06:22:35,400
expressway and was gone

8987
06:22:41,270 --> 06:22:38,400
foreign we looked at each other pretty

8988
06:22:44,628 --> 06:22:43,310
I guess my in the back of my mind I

8989
06:22:46,670 --> 06:22:44,638
thought it has to be an experimental

8990
06:22:49,250 --> 06:22:46,680
plane

8991
06:22:51,048 --> 06:22:49,260
but when we got back into my car

8992
06:22:53,270 --> 06:22:51,058
I turned the ignition on and my core

8993
06:22:55,070 --> 06:22:53,280
started right up

8994
06:22:57,948 --> 06:22:55,080
so we looked at each other and started

8995
06:23:01,128 --> 06:22:57,958
laughing like disbelief

8996
06:23:03,650 --> 06:23:01,138
so the next day or later that day I when

8997
06:23:06,830 --> 06:23:03,660
I woke up I called the FAA

8998
06:23:09,350 --> 06:23:06,840
and I finally got through to a lady who

8999
06:23:10,910 --> 06:23:09,360
after I told her what happened to us she

9000
06:23:12,230 --> 06:23:10,920
said well we haven't had any other

9001
06:23:15,350 --> 06:23:12,240
reports

9002
06:23:17,208 --> 06:23:15,360
but if we do you know give me your

9003
06:23:18,170 --> 06:23:17,218
number and I'll call you and let you

9004
06:23:21,470 --> 06:23:18,180
know

9005
06:23:23,208 --> 06:23:21,480
that that never happened so in my mind

9006
06:23:25,788 --> 06:23:23,218
you know I figured well it has to be an

9007
06:23:28,368 --> 06:23:25,798
experimental plane

9008
06:23:30,948 --> 06:23:28,378
um you know because there was a there's

9009
06:23:32,628 --> 06:23:30,958
there's been an Air Base outside of

9010
06:23:35,030 --> 06:23:32,638
Atlantic City for years so I figured it

9011
06:23:38,330 --> 06:23:35,040
had to be experimental plane from the

9012
06:23:40,670 --> 06:23:38,340
Air Base outside of Atlantic City

9013
06:23:42,410 --> 06:23:40,680
so for years

9014
06:23:43,250 --> 06:23:42,420
I never mentioned what happened to

9015
06:23:45,110 --> 06:23:43,260
anybody

9016
06:23:49,190 --> 06:23:45,120
other than

9017
06:23:52,010 --> 06:23:49,200
the guys in my later band because we

9018
06:23:55,368 --> 06:23:52,020
actually I wrote a song about it maybe a

9019
06:23:59,930 --> 06:23:55,378
year later and we performed it

9020
06:24:01,610 --> 06:23:59,940
in Wildwood actually in 1978

9021
06:24:04,310 --> 06:24:01,620
. so for years I never mentioned to

9022
06:24:06,830 --> 06:24:04,320
anyone else you know what

9023
06:24:07,910 --> 06:24:06,840
which and I saw that night because I

9024
06:24:10,930 --> 06:24:07,920
didn't want anybody to think we were

9025
06:24:14,990 --> 06:24:10,940
nuts or high or drunk

9026
06:24:17,030 --> 06:24:15,000
that night so rich and I decided decided

9027
06:24:19,070 --> 06:24:17,040
to start another music Trio

9028
06:24:22,128 --> 06:24:19,080
years later

9029
06:24:25,548 --> 06:24:22,138
had to be around 2020

9030
06:24:27,590 --> 06:24:25,558
we started a trio with a female singer

9031
06:24:30,410 --> 06:24:27,600
and us

9032
06:24:32,510 --> 06:24:30,420
um I'm a drummer he was a keyboard

9033
06:24:34,548 --> 06:24:32,520
player

9034
06:24:37,310 --> 06:24:34,558
so then all the parole started about the

9035
06:24:42,230 --> 06:24:37,320
UFO sightings in the media

9036
06:24:44,810 --> 06:24:42,240
that Pentagon report came and uh

9037
06:24:46,850 --> 06:24:44,820
there's just it was just a lot of media

9038
06:24:48,890 --> 06:24:46,860
hype and I I started to watch some

9039
06:24:50,810 --> 06:24:48,900
documentaries I really got more

9040
06:24:52,730 --> 06:24:50,820
fascinated by it and I couldn't believe

9041
06:24:54,350 --> 06:24:52,740
some of the things I saw in the

9042
06:24:57,470 --> 06:24:54,360
documentaries reminded me of the

9043
06:25:01,310 --> 06:24:57,480
Triangular spaceship we saw

9044
06:25:04,128 --> 06:25:01,320
uh that night 1977 you know

9045
06:25:07,430 --> 06:25:04,138
so for the first time in a practice in

9046
06:25:09,470 --> 06:25:07,440
2020 I told rich in our female singer

9047
06:25:11,510 --> 06:25:09,480
what I had seen

9048
06:25:13,910 --> 06:25:11,520
but was too embarrassed to tell anybody

9049
06:25:15,948 --> 06:25:13,920
for all these years and suddenly Rich

9050
06:25:19,010 --> 06:25:15,958
says to me well who do you think was

9051
06:25:21,230 --> 06:25:19,020
sitting next to you when you saw it and

9052
06:25:24,230 --> 06:25:21,240
I blurted out you were there with me

9053
06:25:26,510 --> 06:25:24,240
that night he says yeah I said oh I said

9054
06:25:28,610 --> 06:25:26,520
thank God I thought I was alone that

9055
06:25:31,490 --> 06:25:28,620
night so

9056
06:25:34,070 --> 06:25:31,500
I asked him to recall what he saw and it

9057
06:25:36,288 --> 06:25:34,080
was exactly what I remembered

9058
06:25:38,030 --> 06:25:36,298
and in fact he added that the thing that

9059
06:25:41,030 --> 06:25:38,040
freaked him out the most was that the

9060
06:25:42,948 --> 06:25:41,040
large aircraft that we saw flew by made

9061
06:25:45,410 --> 06:25:42,958
no sound

9062
06:25:48,288 --> 06:25:45,420
so that was pretty amazing you know to

9063
06:25:51,890 --> 06:25:50,570
thinking about all of it

9064
06:25:54,048 --> 06:25:51,900
recently

9065
06:25:56,270 --> 06:25:54,058
I mean I always felt like

9066
06:25:57,948 --> 06:25:56,280
this it was obviously Superior

9067
06:26:00,288 --> 06:25:57,958
intelligence

9068
06:26:02,030 --> 06:26:00,298
in this in the galaxy and it's not a

9069
06:26:04,310 --> 06:26:02,040
surprise to me given the size of the

9070
06:26:05,890 --> 06:26:04,320
universe that we could never really

9071
06:26:09,110 --> 06:26:05,900
think that we're alone

9072
06:26:10,610 --> 06:26:09,120
uh and so with all these documentaries I

9073
06:26:13,128 --> 06:26:10,620
really felt like

9074
06:26:15,230 --> 06:26:13,138
you know what we saw that night was

9075
06:26:18,288 --> 06:26:15,240
probably a UFO

9076
06:26:21,048 --> 06:26:18,298
that's how I feel about it and uh

9077
06:26:23,628 --> 06:26:21,058
especially when I saw the Navy pilots on

9078
06:26:26,570 --> 06:26:23,638
60 Minutes come out and show the videos

9079
06:26:28,730 --> 06:26:26,580
that they saw while they were flying

9080
06:26:33,288 --> 06:26:31,190
on a mission or whatever in practice in

9081
06:26:35,150 --> 06:26:33,298
California

9082
06:26:37,730 --> 06:26:35,160
so um

9083
06:26:39,110 --> 06:26:37,740
as a result of that we did my other band

9084
06:26:41,390 --> 06:26:39,120
you know

9085
06:26:44,030 --> 06:26:41,400
uh wrote a song about

9086
06:26:45,110 --> 06:26:44,040
what we saw so we performed it in 1978

9087
06:26:51,110 --> 06:26:45,120
and

9088
06:26:52,730 --> 06:26:51,120
Amazon you know it's called look to the

9089
06:26:55,910 --> 06:26:52,740
sky Philly mix

9090
06:26:57,048 --> 06:26:55,920
and you know it's a song of Hope

9091
06:27:00,350 --> 06:26:57,058
that

9092
06:27:02,090 --> 06:27:00,360
if these UFOs were really a danger to us

9093
06:27:03,770 --> 06:27:02,100
we'd know it by now

9094
06:27:05,390 --> 06:27:03,780
and I don't think they can be from

9095
06:27:08,990 --> 06:27:05,400
Russia or China or else they would have

9096
06:27:13,910 --> 06:27:09,000
used their Superior Intelligence on us

9097
06:27:17,330 --> 06:27:13,920
and I guess the song really meant to me

9098
06:27:20,030 --> 06:27:17,340
is a song of Hope because I think

9099
06:27:23,570 --> 06:27:20,040
these aliens who were obviously Superior

9100
06:27:25,250 --> 06:27:23,580
to us get upset about all the wars that

9101
06:27:26,690 --> 06:27:25,260
are happening and all the things that

9102
06:27:29,330 --> 06:27:26,700
are happening in the world

9103
06:27:31,788 --> 06:27:29,340
they may finally appear and tell us to

9104
06:27:33,110 --> 06:27:31,798
cool all these wars and maybe call Mr

9105
06:27:36,050 --> 06:27:33,120
Putin down

9106
06:27:45,230 --> 06:27:36,060
so that's about it that's my story